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CM9 vs Hydro 4.0

Ok, so I'm always torn when it comes to loading custom ROMS because I uses my devices heavily for work. That being said, I have a solid history of Android devices, some of which I have flashed and some that I have left stock.
HTC G1 (T-Mo) - CM4/5/6 (Deactivated)
HTC EVO (Sprint) - Stock 2.3.5 (GB - Deactivated)
Samsung Galaxy S (T-Mo) - Stock 4.1.1 (JB - Active)
Samsung Galaxy Nexus LTE (Verizon) - AOKP Milestone 6 (ICS - Active)
ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T (WiFi) - Stock 4.0.3 (ICS)
Here's the deal, I love my tablet and use it heavily for work, but the stock ROM from ASUS just sucks. This hardware should chew crap up and spit it out, not studder and shutter every time I ask it to do something more than edit a text doc! I haven't used CMx in quite some time, but I know it is a very finished product which is important since I use the TF300T + Keyboard Dock for work. That being said, I am intrigued by all of the postive reviews and sentiments regarding the Hydro-Ponics 4.0 ROM. It sounds very stable and fast since it is ultimately just a tweaked version of stock. Can anyone give me a little Pros/Cons list while comparing and contrasting their experience with each ROM?
Thanks!

Personally I never used cm9, but I use hydro
Pros:
Super fast
Beats audio
Great battery life
Super smooth
Cons:
None
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id say wait a lil bit, and jump on the cm10 train, tonight they are apparently adding HW video decoding, and so far, its the smoothest thing ive used on any android device to date
and after using both, i do preffer the cm feel, complete stock interface, nd everything is just super smooth

Thanks!
Thanks for the input guys. Thinking I'll go Hydro since I already know what to expect with CM. I'll let you know what I think

TJSizzle said:
Thanks for the input guys. Thinking I'll go Hydro since I already know what to expect with CM. I'll let you know what I think
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Try the new JB from term. Runs very good, too.

Done Deal
I flashed HYDRO 4.0 Base and then flashed the 4.0A update. Running great so far. I haven't had time to do a full check, but I will update tomorrow afternoon and let you know how it goes. So far I am quite impressed. The only little issue I am having is Titanium is telling me that I do not have root, but I obviously have root...not sure what that is about yet, but I'll figure it out. Other than that, the missing ASUS apps leave a tiny void, but I have better apps to do everything they do, so I'm happy.
It has been a little while since I flashed a ROM, but I was pleasantly surprised that almost all of my apps are still installed even after I wiped the system. I haven't tested all yet, but the ones I have appear to be working.

Re-rooted
I re-rooted using DebugfsRoot_v1.9 and everything is all good.

You won't be disappointed with HYDRO. Its fast and everything works. Plus the added JB ish animations is a nice plus. And the battery life is crazy good.
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I have a problem with HYDRO 4.0. I have a three routers in home, one on each floor (two of them are the same, first and second floor). My tf300 with hydro don't see one of them (from first floor). My Motorola Defy see all three my laptop see all three, but Asus have a problem.
I downgradge to .30 and now tf300 see all three.
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strielok said:
I have a problem with HYDRO 4.0. I have a three routers in home, one on each floor (two of them are the same, first and second floor). My tf300 with hydro don't see one of them (from first floor). My Motorola Defy see all three my laptop see all three, but Asus have a problem.
I downgradge to .30 and now tf300 see all three.
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Have you tried the Wifi fix in the OP of the Hydro thread?
Edit: Scroll down this post---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28268345&postcount=3 (Under Add-Ons)

Yes I have tried, nothing helps. Only back to stock rom. I think I will wait to oryginal JB or AOKP ew. CM10
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I used Hydro and it was great but I jumped on the Jellybean train and am now using CM10 found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776260, haven't had a problem, and it seems as fast/stable as Hydro was.

OP, does Hydro fully support all the dock functionalities? Having full use of the Dock is one of the few things I'm missing now with my tablet, since I've used CM9 and figured out how to get Supernote (Still working on getting the asus weather widgets and polaris office working). I would absolutely love to have my cake and eat it too, in the sense that I want a rooted/flashed tablet that still allows me all the basic stock functionalities, and more.

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opethfan89 said:
OP, does Hydro fully support all the dock functionalities? Having full use of the Dock is one of the few things I'm missing now with my tablet, since I've used CM9 and figured out how to get Supernote (Still working on getting the asus weather widgets and polaris office working). I would absolutely love to have my cake and eat it too, in the sense that I want a rooted/flashed tablet that still allows me all the basic stock functionalities, and more.
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Absolutely full use of the dock. That is my favorite part. I have experienced one WiFi issue at one of my client's networks where the device just wouldn't play nicely with an AP, but other than that everything has been solid. I also noticed that my screen brightness and/or gamma correction seems to have increased, but I have mitigated that using a free market app.
The dock integration is wonderful and the OS is very very fast.

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Absolutely full use of the dock. That is my favorite part. I have experienced one WiFi issue at one of my client's networks where the device just wouldn't play nicely with an AP, but other than that everything has been solid. I also noticed that my screen brightness and/or gamma correction seems to have increased, but I have mitigated that using a free market app.
The dock integration is wonderful and the OS is very very fast.
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Thanks for the prompt response. Knowing that the dock is fully functional helps alot, and will allow me to switch without regrets. In fact, I'm going to backup right now and flash the Hydro ROM to see if I like it better than CM9. But I might have to switch back to CM10 once Jelly Bean is released to the tablet, because I'm assuming Hydro won't work with JB just yet.

TF700 Arriving Today Need Debrief

So I ended up returning my prime after 8 months, and ordered a tf700. It's hard to read up so much in the prime forums and now I'm a newb to these neck of the woods. I don't see much developement going on for the tf700 in the forum, maybe cuz it's still new?
I have read its a pretty solid upgrade from the prime considering the I/O issues I've read about. Having said that, what does it come shipped with? Honecomb? I know its rootable, and unlockable. Theres a working clockwork right?
Any better than stock roms to flash at the moment? Or just wait it out until JB? Thanks fellows...time to read some more

It is completely rootable and unlockable. I believe theres CWM and TWRP. Comes with ICS. Might need to do an update. My personal opinion is to wait for JB.
This probably should be in Q&A also.
Sent from my Transformer Infinity.

The Infinity is at its infancy. So custom roms are still in its early stages and bugs will be evident but this tablet is definitely an upgrade to the Prime which I sold for the Infinity. When I had my Prime I could only get two bars from my bedroom while my router was in the living area. Now I have full freakin bars! GPS is just as accurate and locks on to as many as the Extension kit. It has some performances issues but nothing Jelly Bean can remedy. Battery is ok doesn't last as long compared to Prime, but I'm sure an update or two will fix that. Also it will heat up on you because of that higher res screen. Mine got as high as 108.9° when playing games.
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I updated from the Prime and must say that the Infinity is a huge upgrade. It may not seem like much but the software is faster and the build quality has improved. Stuff like the improved buttons and the change of location of the headphone jack doesn't seem like much, but is well thought out, especially when it is in the dock. And the WiFi performance is 10 times better than the Prime, which is a huge upgrade. I am very pleased with this device and should have been what the Prime was.
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Well, I just got it, powered it on, and boy its friggin laggy. The software on here really sux. Time to root I guess. Won't help much, but whatever

also, should I root now while on 22, or do the .26 ota first?

Same root method for both. .26 fixes alot of the lag.
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ok cool, thanks. I'll do the OTA then figure out root !

chugger93 said:
ok cool, thanks. I'll do the OTA then figure out root !
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Mine is lag free thank god.

xRevilatioNx said:
Mine is lag free thank god.
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I OTA'ed and rooted. It was pretty simple. The device defintely seems better now after .26. Then after Nova launcher its even better...

US and Canadian TF700 Owners: ASUS delaying OTA until early next week.

It's what Gary Key said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32085072&postcount=93

okantomi said:
It's what Gary Key said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32085072&postcount=93
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Thanks. I wouldn't have caught that.

Primes are starting to update (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907804), it would seem the TF201 is once again the Beta tester for the infinity.

...I'll accept the delay I guess...as long as they resolve issues. :fingers-crossed:

tformed said:
...I'll accept the delay I guess...as long as they resolve issues. :fingers-crossed:
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Consider this - JB on the TF700 will not be bug free. While we wait, we'll likely see the rest of the internet freaking out about various apps not working optimally. Then we can judge whether we should update, or wait for the subsequent JB patch.

Dysoncube said:
Consider this - JB on the TF700 will not be bug free. While we wait, we'll likely see the rest of the internet freaking out about various apps not working optimally. Then we can judge whether we should update, or wait for the subsequent JB patch.
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That's a good way to look at it. As an earlier poster said, let the TF201 do our beta testing. ;^)

okantomi said:
That's a good way to look at it. As an earlier poster said, let the TF201 do our beta testing. ;^)
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And if you look at their thread they are already struggling with issues.
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Heh - I also own a Motorola Droid BIONIC, and the Motorola Droid RAZR owners were our beta testers - which is (one of) the primary reason(s) we still don't have ICS on our phones over 1 year after release date.
I'll just sit back and wait and see. Though, I'm such a chronic beta tester as soon as I see it on my Infinity I'm probably gonna pull the trigger lol

Rsmin said:
And if you look at their thread they are already struggling with issues.
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Many of those issues stem from rooted and unlocked bootloaders with modified build.props and deleted bloatware. Also from members that carelessly and frantically try to restore their tablets to stock and end up soft brick/brick their devices. A small report of updates, bricking their Primes. For the most part JB was a success, that includes my tf201. Its not without its bugs but overall much improved from ICS. I am excited for when JB hits our tf700!
Edit:I won't be surprised to see similar issues popping up for when Jelly Bean lands at our tf700 shores.
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jjdevega said:
Many of those issues stem from rooted and unlocked bootloaders with modified build.props and deleted bloatware. Also from members that carelessly and frantically try to restore their tablets to stock and end up soft brick/brick their devices. A small report of updates, bricking their Primes. For the most part JB was a success, that includes my tf201. Its not without its bugs but overall much improved from ICS. I am excited for when JB hits our tf700!
Edit:I won't be surprised to see similar issues popping up for when Jelly Bean lands at our tf700 shores.
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Glad I kept mine fully stock until now after reading that!
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Yeah I only got my Infinity a couple of weeks ago and since I figured JB was due to arrive soon, I would wait to for the JB roms to get stable before messing with the tablet (also need to make sure my Infinity is a good one).
If JB shows up as promised next week then it will probably be a month or two and I'll see what roms are there that are best for me and I'll root and flash then. A stable experience is more important to me than being first on a rom.

How would you grade this tablet?

I've had this tablet since Christmas, got it with the keyboard dock and a Poetic case for work (journalism) hoping that it would entirely replace my laptop, which was a beater since my other one broke. Since using it I've overall loved the experience, but I do have a number of gripes.
The Good:
- Keyboard is equally as impressive as any laptop I've used. Responsive, ensures that I can continue to be productive while on the go.
- Battery life is unreal
- Speaker quality equals or betters that of an iPad, hands down.
- For being plastic, the build quality of this thing is awesome.
- ASUS has been nothing but supportive, ensuring that my device is unlocked quickly and under warranty.
- Plays the occasional game well and loads them pretty quickly
- The USB and HDMI outlets, while I haven't used them extensively, are going to come in handy.
- Charges extremely fast
The Bad:
- I can never find the power button in tablet mode. It's ergonomically terrible. And when docked, there's no button to press to turn the screen on quickly (that I know of)
- Despite coming preloaded with JB, this thing lags worse than my HTC Sensation. It's not rooted, but out of the box it lags. Takes like ten seconds to open up Google Now for pete's sake.
- Browser crashes all the time
- Proprietary cable is way too short and proprietary cables blow
- Internet browsing is laggy and slow to load more often than not
- Trackpad on the dock is the worst on any keyboard I've ever used in terms of responsiveness and random touches
- Rooting seems complicated
- The screen is not as sharp or as bright as I expected
Overall: B+
It's more than I could ever expect out of a tablet, to be honest. I probably should have sprung for an UltraBook for my needs, but this will be fun in the meantime. This may be my first tablet, but I can assure you that every tablet I buy from here on out will come with a keyboard. It has given me a good idea of what to look for in a tablet and I really do enjoy using it over any other device I've owned aside from my phone. For all it's specs, performance isn't where it should be, but I have a sneaky suspicion once I root this thing there may still be hope for solving all this lag.
What would you grade this tablet? What are your likes? Dislikes? I'm curious to find out about everyone else's experiences with the 300, and perhaps some helpful advice. Thanks!
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When stock I would say a 6/7 out of 10. Its slow, browser crashes and espesially after Jelly Bean update i decided to unlock and root cause it was a pain to use sometimes. Also alot of problems while typing. Whole sentences are suddenly gone, autocorrect is horrible and anyoing, and sometimes even freezes while im writig.
With Custom ROMs i would say a 8 out of 10. Alot faster and smoother than stock.

Imo, the screen is very good. Compared to TF101, colors are better and brighter.
Buying Quad Core cpu I expected, that EVERY game will run smoothly. I bought Dark Knight and ... zonk, lags everywhere. I thought my Tegra 3 is broken

ok so I agree 1000%. I rooted mine, installed cm10 (not 10.1 yet) along with untermensh's kernel and its freaking lightning fast. it was maybe a C- before. Now it is a solid A!
Even my critical impatient wife loves the tab now.

calisro said:
ok so I agree 1000%. I rooted mine, installed cm10 (not 10.1 yet) along with untermensh's kernel and its freaking lightning fast. it was maybe a C- before. Now it is a solid A!
Even my critical impatient wife loves the tab now.
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I guess the solution to everything is to root it (as usual). If it gets rid of some of the annoying lag then I'm all for it, because if there's one thing I value over any other feature, it's stability
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monkor said:
I guess the solution to everything is to root it (as usual). If it gets rid of some of the annoying lag then I'm all for it, because if there's one thing I value over any other feature, it's stability
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yea. its sad that we need to void warranties to make the tab perform the way it should have when stock but it is what it is....

Are there any noob guides to root and install a custom ROM on this tablet? I think i may just have to do so to improve the performance as it's terrible at times. I'm on the latest jellybean update by Asus
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UndisputedGuy said:
Are there any noob guides to root and install a custom ROM on this tablet? I think i may just have to do so to improve the performance as it's terrible at times. I'm on the latest jellybean update by Asus
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845377
Exactly what you need

I'd give this thing a 5 out of 10 on stock. Rooted and with agps flashed and apps to SD its a 11 out of 10. I run clean ROM 3.0.4 and unters 4.4.20 kernal and as I've said before it makes all the difference in the world on this machine. The screen is good but the infinity screen is better however I prefer this to all other tabs currently marketed except Samsung note 10.1 but the note isn't optimized for tegra games so all in all this one won me over

grimsonfart said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845377
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Thank you.
conan1600 said:
I'd give this thing a 5 out of 10 on stock. Rooted and with agps flashed and apps to SD its a 11 out of 10. I run clean ROM 3.0.4 and unters 4.4.20 kernal and as I've said before it makes all the difference in the world on this machine. The screen is good but the infinity screen is better however I prefer this to all other tabs currently marketed except Samsung note 10.1 but the note isn't optimized for tegra games so all in all this one won me over
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Does a custom ROM really make a big difference? This thing really does lag awfully sometimes on stock and i'm a bit skeptical that it can improve significantly
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It makes so much of a difference on mine I could never concieve of loading the stock ROM again. The stock has serious I/o issues bud not to mention all the other crap. Now don't get me wrong there is a down side. On jelly bean u have to unlock so u lose your warranty and that's a risk. It is also a lot of work to install all the ROMs and patches and the first time on any device will scare the bejesus outta any man but when its done, at least for me, its a thing of beauty on this machine in particular. I'd did a lot of research before I got started and finally took the plunge. Course I've done this on several devices but every time is stressful lol. Good luck man for the benchmark scores on my machine just look at the poor androbench scores thread in this section. I just posted pics there that will show you how much of a difference it makes when you root and rom
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P.S. you mentioned lag so I'll let you know browser to ram after you root takes care of that in browsing and as you can see from the screenshots in the other thread the I/o is fixed and or gone around after root and custom ROM installed.

Thanks for the informative reply. I usually use chrome though so I don't think browser2ram will work for that or so I've read.
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UndisputedGuy said:
Thank you.
Does a custom ROM really make a big difference? This thing really does lag awfully sometimes on stock and i'm a bit skeptical that it can improve significantly
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Yes.

3/10
I've been regretting this purchase since after 1 month of owning it, that why a few months ago I was pretty active on this forum asking questions but since the day I figured out this tablet is what I should not have purchased, I stopped browsing this forum.
I was so sad because I saved my money for months to buy this tablet and what I got wasn't what I expected.
Like you said, this thing lags like crazy, it's because of the I/O issue I believe. Games run laggy, cuz they need to read/write a lot. Copying 100MB takes 10 minutes. I waited for years for it to copy mmy music library to this tablet. Forget about browsing the Web,
I even thought this is an issue with android and I thought I will not ever buy an android device again, until my sister got the galaxy s3 and it's damn fast
Maybe I'll leave a review someday, but basically this tablet is very good, except for the fact that Asus put a cheap slow flash storage in it. If not, I'd rate it 8/10 if there's no i/O issue,
Asus has been known for putting slow flash storage in their devices from the tf201, tf300, even the flagship tf700, and even though the nexus 7 has a faster flash storage that transformers, it's still very slow compared to other tablets.
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I have to agree with other comments here, the stock rom is a piece of crap. Not being able to browse on the stock browser WTF ? I've said this before but Asus REALLY needs to fix their stock rom. If the ROMS from here can make the tablet fly then why can't Asus do it?
I had my tablet for 6 months and only unlocked and flashed TWRP with Cleanroom in the last week. I've now used the tablet more in the last week than I had in the previous 6 months, it's made such a difference. I now enjoy using the tablet rather than wanting to throw it against the wall :silly:
I bought mine with the keyboard dock, it makes the tablet more versatile extends the battery life and with a wireless mouse is almost a notebook / netbook replacement.
I notice the OP wrote the proprietary cable is too short.... you can pick up a 2m cable on eBay or Amazon really cheap, mine was delivered last week. Though the proprietary cable does blow, from what I've read it allows the tablet to be charged quicker than a normal usb cable (please correct me if I am wrong).
Stock rom: 3 out of 10 (Slow, hangs, browser crashes.... piece of crap)
Cleanrom: 10 out of 10 (Everything works perfectly now)

Perhaps the wrong thread but what browser do you guys use on this ROM? I like stock ROM so so much but it doesnt work half the time. Like it doesn't load pages or the back button doesn't return me. Also it can use flash!
I'm gonna start to try use chrome but I like the progress bar. I tried dolphin browser but its not like a conventional browser, doesn't have a back button etc.
Firefox doesn't have an easy add tab button. Same with Opera, don't think its that nippy, hangs n lags.

I found Opera Mobile worked best on the stock rom

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Perhaps the wrong thread but what browser do you guys use on this ROM? I like stock ROM so so much but it doesnt work half the time. Like it doesn't load pages or the back button doesn't return me. Also it can use flash!
I'm gonna start to try use chrome but I like the progress bar. I tried dolphin browser but its not like a conventional browser, doesn't have a back button etc.
Firefox doesn't have an easy add tab button. Same with Opera, don't think its that nippy, hangs n lags.
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i use stock browser on cromi 3.0.4 it works exactly as it should with no lags and flash is smooth.

UndisputedGuy said:
Thank you.
Does a custom ROM really make a big difference? This thing really does lag awfully sometimes on stock and i'm a bit skeptical that it can improve significantly
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I'm on CleanROM 3.0.4 and it's awesome. Sure you'll see difference
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Thanks to everyone in this thread who has helped. I think I will move onto cleanrom after my tablet goes into repairs. Do apps perform better on cleanrom as well? Such as chrome and other things
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[Q] Erroneous display of numbers issue on TF700

This is a hard one to describe, but haven't found any references to the same problem elsewhere.
Certain app (many) show certain number fields as many orders of magnitude larger than they should be, except eBay app, which shows 0 cost for everything - which would be nice if it were true. See screenshots.
Any ideas?
It's unlocked and rooted, with an early 'stock' JB ROM

I have no idea what is causing this, but I would just flash the latest 4.2.1 firmware and root it with Motochopper if you want to stay on stock.
But since you are unlocked already - why don't you try a custom rom like CROMi-X 4.7? SO much better than stock.....
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Yeah, I thought I might just try flashing 4.2.1 and see if that helped with this, and more generally.
I've got some general ingrained aversion to going off-stock, dunno why really. I subject my wife to custom ROMs with no concern :laugh:
Well, if i'm flashing anyway, I might as well check out your CROMi-X suggestion. The main benefit I would be looking for would be speed, I find the Infinity slower than i'd like...
Cheers