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[Q] Installed update....no root!

I went back to stock. Hit the wrong button and installed the update. Now I am not rooted and hate everything!!! Any idea how long before I can root this poor phone so I don't hate everything about it and on it?:crying:

There's a good chance there won't be another exploit found. This Is thy you have to protect root.
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Well I guess just SOL. Guess I will have to live with it. Thanks for your help. I never had to use a root keeper before...

moonsbabe said:
Well I guess just SOL. Guess I will have to live with it. Thanks for your help. I never had to use a root keeper before...
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There is talk of a method to partially flash back to previous build using rsd, root, then update again over on droidrzr.com I will try to find it and link it for you.
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JungleKing76 said:
There is talk of a method to partially flash back to previous build using rsd, root, then update again over on droidrzr.com I will try to find it and link it for you.
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Not that I haven't been flashing stuff for years....just what is 'rsd'?

moonsbabe said:
Not that I haven't been flashing stuff for years....just what is 'rsd'?
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Rsd lite is a Motorola program used to flash xml files.
I was wrong, it wasn't droidrzr.com, it was right here on xda.
Post#78...here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43777980
He doesn't give specific instructions but others say he is reputable so if he says it worked, they believe him.
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realbbb is a very sharp guy and former Bionic owner who went through all of the "Cheescake" leaked update issues we had with that device while Motorola was struggling with the baseband firmware in the early rollout of VZW's LTE network.
This workaround is a version of the method we used when you got stuck on a non upgradeable test leak and had to revert to a prior version to move forward.
It is exactly the sort of creative thinking that is required in situations like this when you find yourself stuck by unforeseen circumstances.
This can easily and safely be tested by anyone who is currently on the update and has lost root, since the full XML.zip was released shortly after the update went live last week.

[Q] Ok to update after bootloader unlock and root?

Hey all,
Now that I have my phone rooted and unlocked, is it ok if I accept and install the latest OTA update? Is there any additional steps I need to take before or after?

use voodoo from the market to protect root and temp unroot while updating. also you have to be stock, with all the bloat apps installed and not frozen, or the update will fail.
ultimately the update will likely fail at the end anyways, but as long as it updates the baseband, that's all you really want out of it anyways.

Ok thanks. I will give it a try. Sounds like it will probably fail. LoL

Sad Panda said:
Ok thanks. I will give it a try. Sounds like it will probably fail. LoL
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yes you can take updates with the unlocked bootloader i took the one back in july anyways however you lose root and you have to reflash twrp im currently looking for the thread i used to complete the task i found it here on xda... if there has been a ota since sorry... havent bee keeping up since lol ota's arent that much important anymore to me
i found the thread is on droid razr forums i dont have "10 posts" so it wont allow me to send it to you

You successful? I tried coming you the link
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devilalwayscries said:
You successful? I tried coming you the link
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I haven't tried it quite yet. Gotta work up the balls to do it lol

Ah Lol yeah its not as daunting as it seems really
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Sad Panda said:
I haven't tried it quite yet. Gotta work up the balls to do it lol
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i have taken the update about a dozen times no problem, and didn't loose root one time.
matts utility reverts to before the update (including the baseband), so there is really no danger as long as you are already unlocked.

bweN diorD said:
i have taken the update about a dozen times no problem, and didn't loose root one time.
matts utility reverts to before the update (including the baseband), so there is really no danger as long as you are already unlocked.
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Nice thing about being unlocked lol your not stuck
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[Q] Need Latest xt926 NA/US firmware

I have the Developer Edition RAZR HD with an unlocked bootloader. There is a new OTA (9-18-94 and 9-30-1) which failed to install correctly, sending me to the Fastboot screen "permanently".
All research points to needing to RSD-Lite the failed firmware (or newer). The trouble is, this is very new (11-5-2013), and I'm not finding the firmware. Can anyone point me to it, or do I just need to wait.
I can try going to Verizon, but that sounds awful.
Thanks all.

Is it the second one in this list?
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/vanquish/list.php

It's possible, since that list doesn't have dates on it of any sort. The new update is 9-18-94 and the 2nd list item says 9-8-94 (kind of). In any case, I'll try it.
EDIT: Naw, that one was posted in July. This new one literally push OTA on 11/5/13. Thank you though.

Pupalei said:
I have the Developer Edition RAZR HD with an unlocked bootloader. There is a new OTA (9-18-94 and 9-30-1) which failed to install correctly, sending me to the Fastboot screen "permanently".
All research points to needing to RSD-Lite the failed firmware (or newer). The trouble is, this is very new (11-5-2013), and I'm not finding the firmware. Can anyone point me to it, or do I just need to wait.
I can try going to Verizon, but that sounds awful.
Thanks all.
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Check out the Dev P3Droid's 11/4/13 Tweet with a link for a large file for the XT926. You may need to ask him for details.
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Thanks for the lead. The link he tweeted is "temporarily unavailable" so I've asked him about it. Seriously, thanks.

You're welcome! He's an awesome Dev IMO. Also, you could contact Shane Starnes (@Droidmodderx) to ask whether he d/l this file.
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Thanks for the lead. The link he tweeted is "temporarily unavailable" so I've asked him about it. Seriously, thanks.
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The file link mentioned by RikRong above should be the current build for VRZ XT926: 9.8.1Q-94 build at sbf.droid-developers.org. This build number matches the build number on my phone after the OTA. The system version starts with 9.18, but the build number starts with 9.8.
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OK, so even though the OTA came out 11/5/2013 and this firmware was added 7/11/2013, you think it's the same build?
More than happy to try it. Now I'm fighting RSD lite which is giving me Fastboot command not found errors. I'll try once my kids go to bed.
Thanks for the replies!!

Pupalei said:
OK, so even though the OTA came out 11/5/2013 and this firmware was added 7/11/2013, you think it's the same build?
More than happy to try it. Now I'm fighting RSD lite which is giving me Fastboot command not found errors. I'll try once my kids go to bed.
Thanks for the replies!!
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Someone probably pulled the OTA on Nov 7. I would rely on the build number. I hope RSD lite starts working for you. You're welcome!
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i have the file P3 posted, the md5 is the same as the one you can get from sbf-dev.

OK, well I'm having no luck. I'm now getting the error: (bootloader) Invalid partition name sbl1
I'm not much of an expert on flashboot, so I don't know how to get a list of partitions from the phone, if possible.
I appreciate the verification that I have the right firmware, but it won't flash. Any ideas appreciated.

Duplicate post

See the following xda section: General discussion/Hardware hacking/El Grande Partition Table Reference DTD 10/28/2012. The chart shows sbl1 as secondary boot loader. I wish I had more expertise to resolve your issue. Here's hoping that someone has more info.
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In any case, it looks very much like I ought to have an sbl1. I found a thread in Spanish that I Google Translated™, and it's possible that it says the battery may not be charged enough to flash. In any case, the same "no sbl1" error was mentioned in the same thread as some battery discussion or another, lol.
The thing is, I don't know if my phone's battery is charging or not. But it's plugged in and I'll try in the morning.

I hope it works tomorrow.
Sent from my RAZR Maxx HD

Well, no luck. It appears I'd have to re-partition the phone to flash anything to it. I can't believe this happened on a Verizon OTA. And since my bootloader was unlocked, I have no warranty.
Very frustrated.

Pupalei said:
Well, no luck. It appears I'd have to re-partition the phone to flash anything to it. I can't believe this happened on a Verizon OTA. And since my bootloader was unlocked, I have no warranty.
Very frustrated.
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I'm in the EXACT same situation.
Droid Razr HD Utility says "Unknown partition name system".
RSD Lite fails on step 1.
My bootloader was unlocked, but it says LOCKED in fastboot now.
It's stuck in fastboot, and I'm not able to enter recovery or anything...what to do?

You could check out droidrzr.com, particularly SamuriHL's RAZR HD Emporium.
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Jhall8 said:
You could check out droidrzr.com, particularly SamuriHL's RAZR HD Emporium.
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Shall do, although now my battery is showing "Low" instead of "OK".
Nexus 5 in my future?

Pupalei said:
Shall do, although now my battery is showing "Low" instead of "OK".
Nexus 5 in my future?
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Not fun for you. Crossing my fingers that you get your Dev Edition back in shape. Nexus 5 does sound great, though, if it comes to that.
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Pupalei said:
Shall do, although now my battery is showing "Low" instead of "OK".
Nexus 5 in my future?
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you can get a moto factory adapter from team black hat for $10 (google it).
it flashes the phone bypassing the battery.

Has anyone actually gotten the OTA?

Not this leaked ota or soak test but an actual OTA? Still waiting on it.
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bwheelies said:
Not this leaked ota or soak test but an actual OTA? Still waiting on it.
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This was pushed to me at 6PM EST on 12-20. I'm not part of MFN nor did I receive any of the emails or surveys normally associated with the soak test.
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bwheelies said:
Not this leaked ota or soak test but an actual OTA? Still waiting on it.
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I'm also waiting for it.

I'm abroad and still waiting for it. Not part of the MFN.

Nope
In the US. Still waiting.. no KitKat Christmas for me.
Droid Ultra Verizon:silly:

Didn't sign up for anything special and got it around the 20th on my Mini.

Still waiting also. Been trying to update for the past week. No go. Hopefully soon.
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Same here
Still waiting myself. Been checking everyday. Even tempted to just go ahead and do the update from the zip that's been floating around in the forums.

jcorrea86 said:
Still waiting myself. Been checking everyday. Even tempted to just go ahead and do the update from the zip that's been floating around in the forums.
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I just installed it without problem because I was tired of waiting and checking. Unrooted Maxx.
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jcorrea86 said:
Still waiting myself. Been checking everyday. Even tempted to just go ahead and do the update from the zip that's been floating around in the forums.
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I tried it with an unrooted phone and it bricked the phone so I will wait for the official update.
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bwheelies said:
I tried it with an unrooted phone and it bricked the phone so I will wait for the official update.
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Same here. I'm looking forward to the update to get the new notification system for use with my Pebble watch. But I'm not going to risk installing the OTA manually again through stock recovery.

reggie14 said:
Same here. I'm looking forward to the update to get the new notification system for use with my Pebble watch. But I'm not going to risk installing the OTA manually again through stock recovery.
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Just flash the sbf files and don't bother with an OTA? Just sayin... If you want it that bad.

I would need a new computer to get the SBF flashed. My gear is not picking up this phone. Worked fine on my RAZR. Stuck waiting. Surprised it has been this long of a wait.
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4.4 is awesome
i also flashed it without issues....un-rooted maxx

I tried again and got it to work this time. Too bad this phone is being sent back.
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I am glad I didn't participate in this soak nor get the update. It's causing a lot of problems.
Honestly I think what we have here is possibly an influx of users coming from devices like the galaxy nexus that were easier to modify. Lots of one click tools. This whole rock my moto thing for rooting 4.2.2 looked intimidating. Glad I was able to keep root with pwnmymoto.
I do think it's kinda funny. I had jelly bean and Google now since August 2012. Everyone of my friends this spring kept trying to show me the new features. I'm like Ahh they're not new! Alas my payback has arrived. My ppl with gs4s are all like kit kat neener neener. Least I can be all like verizon grandfathered unlimited data neener neener!
I wonder if the day will come when sbfs can be released earlier and more available?
How are these people who manually updated and bricked their phones getting replacements? Must be bc of the non rooted folks who bricked just by simply updating. Either way I'm glad it's covered.
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Take the phone to the store and they will try recovery, reset, etc. and then send a replacement.
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jfriend33 said:
I am glad I didn't participate in this soak nor get the update. It's causing a lot of problems.
Honestly I think what we have here is possibly an influx of users coming from devices like the galaxy nexus that were easier to modify. Lots of one click tools. This whole rock my moto thing for rooting 4.2.2 looked intimidating. Glad I was able to keep root with pwnmymoto.
I do think it's kinda funny. I had jelly bean and Google now since August 2012. Everyone of my friends this spring kept trying to show me the new features. I'm like Ahh they're not new! Alas my payback has arrived. My ppl with gs4s are all like kit kat neener neener. Least I can be all like verizon grandfathered unlimited data neener neener!
I wonder if the day will come when sbfs can be released earlier and more available?
How are these people who manually updated and bricked their phones getting replacements? Must be bc of the non rooted folks who bricked just by simply updating. Either way I'm glad it's covered.
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If you're attempting to flash the update manually you must do so twice. The first pass will update the bootloader and recovery perhaps a couple other smaller things. Regardless the main update is the second pass through. If you haven't applied the update twice from your SD Memory you can likely repair it yourself. Worst case just run the 4.4 sbf...
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So Im assuming if they are having so many problems with the verizon OTA that they just stopped pushing it until they get a fix?
Sad day. I was so excited. I dont want to deal with rooting so I was hoping this would happen.

southernsugarleaf said:
So Im assuming if they are having so many problems with the verizon OTA that they just stopped pushing it until they get a fix?
Sad day. I was so excited. I dont want to deal with rooting so I was hoping this would happen.
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Again, you don't have to be rooted to flash the update. I'm not rooted and I flashed it yesterday with no problems at all. Took about 10 minutes beginning to end.
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Maxx vs Moto X.

Moto has offered a warranty replacement of a Maxx for my X. I know the boot sound will bother me a lot. But I thought I would ask If others may have made the same swap. I do wear an xl glove so the size increase is OK.
Are slip-proof rubber cases & screen protectors hard to get?

I've plated around with both and although I don't care for the droid branding....I loved the battery life... I'm actually waiting for an X swap for a maxx myself right now. I'm just bummed neither one I am able to root so far
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aviwdoowks said:
Moto has offered a warranty replacement of a Maxx for my X. I know the boot sound will bother me a lot. But I thought I would ask If others may have made the same swap. I do wear an xl glove so the size increase is OK.
Are slip-proof rubber cases & screen protectors hard to get?
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RAZR Maxx has definitely got its niche: battery. You can also root the Maxx, I have no idea what the other guy is talking about, Google it there are tons of root methods (PC, one-click etc). I would recommend the Maxx, and AFAIK there are a good amount of accessories for it. You can remove the boot sound after you root by deleting /system/media/audio/startup.ogg or the similar, you will find it in one of the sub-folders. It will be an ogg file. If you choose not to root you can still remove it by creating a flashable update.zip to remove that one file (false signed with toolkit to pass md5 check). Hope this gives some insight,
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Not the razr maxx..the new Droid Maxx
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aarongillion63 said:
RAZR Maxx has definitely got its niche: battery. You can also root the Maxx, I have no idea what the other guy is talking about, Google it there are tons of root methods (PC, one-click etc). I would recommend the Maxx, and AFAIK there are a good amount of accessories for it. You can remove the boot sound after you root by deleting /system/media/audio/startup.ogg or the similar, you will find it in one of the sub-folders. It will be an ogg file. If you choose not to root you can still remove it by creating a flashable update.zip to remove that one file (false signed with toolkit to pass md5 check). Hope this gives some insight,
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Root on 422 but not 44.

@aarongillion63
More on the diy update.zip please? Details?
Seems it would come with the latest 4.4 so I would have no root.

aviwdoowks said:
@aarongillion63
More on the diy update.zip please? Details?
Seems it would come with the latest 4.4 so I would have no root.
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Yes this method is not very published, but you can do a lot of root things with it without actually having root. My main purpose to create these was to push ad-blocking hosts files to peer's devices without having to root them. Basically, you must have the know-how knowledge on how to code updater scripts, I will not go into detail on this as there are guides.. But once you have your package lined up, you're all set to go to flash it, if you have cwm installed. Without root, you have no cwm. So that's where I learned how to fake sign those update.zips to flash thru stock. Just get signtool or better yet there's more reliable ones getting out there just Google search "update.zip signer" and before you know it you can mod all you want without even having root. One thing to note is that your bootloader must not have any signature checking on main /system partition or whatever you're modding.
Hope this helps,
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aarongillion63 said:
One thing to note is that your bootloader must not have any signature checking on main /system partition or whatever you're modding.
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Do the latest moto's qualify?

aviwdoowks said:
Do the latest moto's qualify?
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After some research, I think so yes. Check out this article: the OP states that the KitKat zip can be flashed regardless of locked bootloader. So now as long as you can fake-sign your own zips you can mod all you want. Sometimes (a lot of times) the signing doesn't work right (and you'll read that a lot of places) but that won't hurt your device, the recovery will simply deny your update until you get it right.
Edit: I am not sure if this goes for *latest* moto's, as you put emphasis on in your post.
Whoops forgot to put in the article: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2577977
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aarongillion63 said:
After some research, I think so yes. Check out this article: the OP states that the KitKat zip can be flashed regardless of locked bootloader. So now as long as you can fake-sign your own zips you can mod all you want. Sometimes (a lot of times) the signing doesn't work right (and you'll read that a lot of places) but that won't hurt your device, the recovery will simply deny your update until you get it right.
Edit: I am not sure if this goes for *latest* moto's, as you put emphasis on in your post.
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Did you mean to leave a link?
Many of us X/Ultras would love such an opportunity.

Chances are that either phone you get, it might be on 4.4.2 already. So if the boot loaders can't be unlocked, you won't have root for now. And if they are 4.2.2 or 4.4, you might be able to root.
Its gonna be luck of the draw.
I'd take the maxx for sure personally. Its the same phone, with a bigger screen and battery. Win win.

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After some research?
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This update.zip is a moto signed ota!
How can you jump from it to a fake signed user created one?

aviwdoowks said:
This update.zip is a moto signed ota!
How can you jump from it to a fake signed user created one?
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You can't, this is a classic example of someone stating what works for another device and assuming it works for every device.
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kj2112 said:
Chances are that either phone you get, it might be on 4.4.2 already. So if the boot loaders can't be unlocked, you won't have root for now. And if they are 4.2.2 or 4.4, you might be able to root.
Its gonna be luck of the draw.
I'd take the maxx for sure personally. Its the same phone, with a bigger screen and battery. Win win.
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But Vzw has to mess with 4.4 & they may mess with 4.4.2 as well.

aviwdoowks said:
But Vzw has to mess with 4.4 & they may mess with 4.4.2 as well.
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You can roll the dice and hope for an X that isn't on 4.4.2.....or get the better phone.
You may end up with root on either or no root....I'd go for the phone I prefer.
Root is not essential on either.

aarongillion63 said:
RAZR Maxx has definitely got its niche: battery. You can also root the Maxx, I have no idea what the other guy is talking about, Google it there are tons of root methods (PC, one-click etc)
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There might be tons of root method available for RAZR Maxx, but this is a forum for Droid MAXX - not RAZR - and unless you are on 4.2.2 there is no root method available for the MAXX
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You can't, this is a classic example of someone stating what works for another device and assuming it works for every device.
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Yup

battery is more important

aviwdoowks said:
Moto has offered a warranty replacement of a Maxx for my X. I know the boot sound will bother me a lot. But I thought I would ask If others may have made the same swap. I do wear an xl glove so the size increase is OK.
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If you are about timely updates to Android, I'd stick with the X. Otherwise, the Maxx is a great phone, especially the battery life. It'll be hard to tell the difference between the X and the Maxx from a usability point of view.
The Droid sounds are so amazingly annoying, though it's good that you don't have to restart the phone all that often. It's pretty stable.
As others have said, if root is important to you, it'll probably not happen with the Maxx unless you're lucky to get it with 4.2.2 still installed. I don't care about root myself (in fact, I really don't want the phone rooted.)
Are slip-proof rubber cases & screen protectors hard to get?
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Sure. If you like Zagg-style, Zagg and Skinomi make them, and Verizon sells the non-wet apply versions. I think that there are enough TPU cases that you should find something.