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HTC pushing out updates for bootloaders!

Its been a while since I have posted here, but as I did not see a thread dedicated to this yet other then the previous one in the dev section about HTC reviewing their policy. Here is what Htc Said Today.
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Devs, we’re making lots of progress on unlocking bootloaders: Today we can confirm the HTC Sensation and HTC EVO 3D will be supported! See out note for more info:
Update on Bootloaders
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback. **UPDATE** We’ve listened. Check out the statement from our CEO, Peter Chou on HTC bootloaders. Click the link for more info. http://on.fb.me/iZXgkR **UPDATE 7/10** <!-- p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 48.0px; font: 15.0px Calibri} --> We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience. We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments. HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
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While this is very promising to us, keep in mind there are still other restrictions they are trying to use to crack down on the dev community.
Such as Providers working with google, reviewing which devices by imei will not take an update, and possibly deactivating service from there... I don't remember the link to the site that was talking about it, as I am on a new computer and it was book marked on my crashed one.
If any one has the link please feel free to share.

Where you been mudknot? You didn't get an infuse or something did you?

Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.

Windows 7 and an XBOX 360?
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mudknot2005 said:
Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
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Whew. I was worried there for a sec.
I really think I need to do a backup of my laptop. A little voice has been telling me the last few days, and now you say yours did, somethings definitely trying to drop me a hint.
That's a lot of laptop for the price, for sure. In fact, that's downright amazing considering my POS and how much I paid for it 3 years ago.

biglittlegato said:
Windows 7 and an XBOX 360?
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Naa just a laptop that I got on clearance. I already have the three major systems.
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Scott_S said:
Whew. I was worried there for a sec.
I really think I need to do a backup of my laptop. A little voice has been telling me the last few days, and now you say yours did, somethings definitely trying to drop me a hint.
That's a lot of laptop for the price, for sure. In fact, that's downright amazing considering my POS and how much I paid for it 3 years ago.
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I am only going to upgrade to another HTC that is more then likely not going to be 3d, that crap hurts my eyes. More then likely the holiday.
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mudknot2005 said:
I am only going to upgrade to another HTC that is more then likely not going to be 3d, that crap hurts my eyes. More then likely the holiday.
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I hear ya. Luckily this phone has given me the patience to be able to wait for a holiday-type phone from ATT.
I didn't feel that way when I had the cappy. Two months with that phone and I was already begging ATT to come out with something better... The inspire will hold me over just fine.

The Holiday sounds like it is worth it, I am saving my money now so hopefully I have enough for it when it comes out(of-contract). Im predicting about $700.
(Dont hate Im too young still to work so I don't have a steady job)

ThEiiNoCeNT said:
The Holiday sounds like it is worth it, I am saving my money now so hopefully I have enough for it when it comes out(of-contract). Im predicting about $700.
(Dont hate Im too young still to work so I don't have a steady job)
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Judging by past HTC phones I would say it will more likely be around 500-600
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mudknot2005 said:
Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
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That's a hell of a laptop for that cost.

Simba501 said:
That's a hell of a laptop for that cost.
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Well it was a display model with the retailers software installed, it was originally listed for like 1000. I talked them down a little bit. The only the thing wrong with it is the keyboard is a little raised in one section but it doesn't effect the typing. So I had to buy it, because HP will still warranty it.
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mudknot2005 said:
Well it was a display model with the retailers software installed, it was originally listed for like 1000. I talked them down a little bit. The only the thing wrong with it is the keyboard is a little raised in one section but it doesn't effect the typing. So I had to buy it, because HP will still warranty it.
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Sir, that's a win.

Back on topic here. The article I read stated that even though HTC wll come up with a tool to unlock the bootloaders, it would require approval from the carriers to be released. What are the odds? This just seems like a big ploy to put the finger soley on the carriers.
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[Q] One S Development

Hello guys, i'm in love with the One S, but i've been watching the forums lately, and the One S is receiving way less attention then the One X.
We have at least 3 big and great custom Roms for the One X, and i can't see any for the One S yet.
Do you guys think the One S android development is going to reach the One X sometime?
I want to know this, before i buy the phone, or else i'm getting a One X

One x doesn't have a bootable cyanogenmod..mainly sense roms. The desire HD took a while to kick in on dev side also..its preference
The only development missing is really cyanogenmod daily type and tool sets Modding battery etc.you won't be missing out on much.plus our battery's last longer and doesn't have the flex issue the first x stock has lol
It is slow bit but come onn...crap phones have active development...it will happen.
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One X counts as "Flagship" so more ppl buying it - more development. But I think after first few 2-3 month ppl will understand that S is as good as X, also I guess it wont be problem to take same roms from X and make them avaible for S.
Definetly not something what should affect your decision about what phone to buy. Choose which u like more, the development of roms will be good for both.

Maybe One S will get more attention after it gets released on Tmobile.

kolyan said:
Maybe One S will get more attention after it gets released on Tmobile.
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Exactly this phone is still yet to be released in some parts of the world. Maybe the best developers don't have the phone yet. It's early days so be patient
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Well, thank you, you guys have helped me alot. One more question, about the battery life on the One S, is it good? Can it be compared to the HTC Desire?
Once again, thanks!

Guizzoni said:
Well, thank you, you guys have helped me alot. One more question, about the battery life on the One S, is it good? Can it be compared to the HTC Desire?
Once again, thanks!
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The battery life is very god. I have about One and half day on battery with some surf, phonecalls and sync.
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much better then the desire and desire HD...I owned both
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I'm so happy that I opted for the S instead of the X. In my (humble) opinion, most people have been drawn to the Quad core of the X - but it seems the S is just as, if not more, powerful!
I think as people realise that the S is up there in the power ratings then development will pick up. I hope so, I miss having my Insertcoin\ARHD etc ROMs to choose from =D

raikesy said:
I'm so happy that I opted for the S instead of the X. In my (humble) opinion, most people have been drawn to the Quad core of the X - but it seems the S is just as, if not more, powerful!
I think as people realise that the S is up there in the power ratings then development will pick up. I hope so, I miss having my Insertcoin\ARHD etc ROMs to choose from =D
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Its not the Quad-core that stands out on X, its the 720p IPS SLCD2 display. Its the best on the market today. I havent seen One S in person, but usually SAMOLED displays suck big time, perhaps HTC done some calibration on this one to make it better.

I love the Amoled screen, I thought it was ace on the SGS.... I think its even better on the One S....
if someone doesnt like it, They tend to slate it, and that puts other people off... instead of just sayin 'personally its not for me, i prefer the xxxxxx screen' they rant and rave 'oh its **** dont waste your money'
and it gives it a bad reputation

azzledazzle said:
I love the Amoled screen, I thought it was ace on the SGS.... I think its even better on the One S....
if someone doesnt like it, They tend to slate it, and that puts other people off... instead of just sayin 'personally its not for me, i prefer the xxxxxx screen' they rant and rave 'oh its **** dont waste your money'
and it gives it a bad reputation
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all i know is that it was/is a disaster on Galaxy Nexus....and its 720p. I have IPS LG right now and colors are great, I had Vibrant also and it was so so.

Back on track of Development , I can't wait for S-OFF

Calm down azzle lol..I get what your saying though.I personally love the screen..didn't at first but messed around with the contrast now its lovely
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Got mine today and its sublime. I'm going to wait a while for root. But it's bound to happen. Just as it did and still is on the desire.
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Apparently lots os people are upgrading from the desire to this phone. Well, I just chose my next phone. It's going to be the HTC One S!
Now I just have to wait for the One S to launch in Brazil.
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I'm pretty sure the One s will get a lot of dev since its the same internationally unlike the one x/xl/evo 4g lte
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I won't buy a phone if I don't think there's going to be a good amount of development for it. That being said, I think the fact that its a global phone will help alot.
and its being announced by T-Mobile right now.
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One X counts as "Flagship" so more ppl buying it - more development. But I think after first few 2-3 month ppl will understand that S is as good as X, also I guess it wont be problem to take same roms from X and make them avaible for S.
Definetly not something what should affect your decision about what phone to buy. Choose which u like more, the development of roms will be good for both.
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i also can't wait for s-off. the htc dev method isn't a choice for me.
I'm disappointed in the developers which decide blind for the one x. Sure it is the Flagship, but with years old manufacturing technique. nobody can say that a comparable 40nm manufactured cpu saves more energy that a 28nm manufactured one. faster sure, but a pockedheater^^
only one good dev for a rom and one for the kernel is enought for us. I love to flash costum roms, best two times a week^^ i miss it.

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i also can't wait for s-off. the htc dev method isn't a choice for me.
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Just curious, why is HTC Dev not a choice for you?

Droid 3 vs thunderbolt

I'm looking to join Verizon very soon, but I need to take the cheap way out. Verizon currently has two free phones, the Droid 3, and the HTC thunderbolt.
My question to you, fellow xda-ers: pros and cons on both of them. Both phone will be rooted, go.
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The D3's development is finally picking up with bypassing the bootloader. The keyboard is superb, it's fast and smooth, also the camera takes crisp pictures.
Ive never used a Thunderbolt so I can't comment on that device.
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With the TBolt you get more current development and 4g, though it is definitely not the most loved phone out there for tweakers. With the D3 you get a great keyboard, strong hardware, but development that is just now picking up. If I were choosing between those two though I'd get the D3. That's actually what I'm considering as something to get me by until a 4G device that I like comes out.

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With the TBolt you get more current development and 4g, though it is definitely not the most loved phone out there for tweakers. With the D3 you get a great keyboard, strong hardware, but development that is just now picking up. If I were choosing between those two though I'd get the D3. That's actually what I'm considering as something to get me by until a 4G device that I like comes out.
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That's somewhat what I'm thinking as well, although I love sense and HTC products, most every Droid I've used is just flawless. My only concern is, is the tradeoff from craftsmanship and a growing development community worth losing out on 4g lte?
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How long are you planning on having the phone for? Development isn't really too amazing on either phone right now so you might want to take the baseline features like 4G into account pretty heavily. Though VZ has been screwing TBolt owners over pretty hard in terms of actually getting ICS out, it should come eventually which will mean much easier development of ICS Roms. The D3 faces the same issues as I've seen with the D2 in that devs have to create their own drivers for the Camera, Wifi, and other basic features. For me I can deal with the D3 if it comes to that because it will only be a temp phone for me so if it gets developed great, and if not I'll survive. If you're going to keep yours for two years the TBolt might be the way to go.
I'll just tell you this though: both phones were pretty much DOA and are both cautionary tales when it comes to looking at Motorola or HTC for purchases. No one is perfect but both phones were touted as flagship models more or less and then left in the dust. Aside from me looking at a D3 as a stopgap I have zero plans to ever buy another Moto device and I'm quite leery about HTC. With the exception of the Rezound they haven't offered much of worth on the VZ end.

It would probably be around 6 months that I have the phone. I get very tiresome of phone after about four months, with the exception of a few of my previous devices (evo 4g, and mytouch 4g)
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Do you honestly only have free as a price point option? There are some seriously badass phones out that aren't too expensive. The Incredible LTE just came out, it's running ICS and Sense 4.0 natively and also has the S4 chip, same as the Galaxy S3 and HTC One series (US Versions). Costco has it for $60 right now.
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If you're looking to join Verizon, aka new customer, there's much much better phones for you on Amazon.
The Nexus, Rezound, Droid 4, all at one point and could be still were under $100 with a new contract,

My financial situation currently wont allow me to drop any money on a cell phone. I just became a father and moneys tight, only reason I'm joining Verizon is for coverage (compared to metro pcs lol) and I get a 19% discount from my workplace.
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Dubs devious said:
My financial situation currently wont allow me to drop any money on a cell phone. I just became a father and moneys tight, only reason I'm joining Verizon is for coverage (compared to metro pcs lol) and I get a 19% discount from my workplace.
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Then honestly, I'd wait until you can spend at least $100 and stick with Metro for now.
The two phones in your price range are already horribly outdated development and specs wise and if you're going to be locked in, I'd want a better phone than those two for a long term period of time.
Unless your MetroPCS experience is that bad, my advice is just wait until you can put together some funds.

My thinking is I get a free one, and eventually ill upgrade. And yes, my metro experience sucks lol. I get absolutely no reception at either of my workplaces, and home.
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I went with the DROID <3 and i love it
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Get the GNexus because it's the only phone that will most likely keep receiving os updates until android 8.3. Srsly, you don't have to worry about future updates with that phone.

Atrix_Owner said:
Get the GNexus because it's the only phone that will most likely keep receiving os updates until android 8.3. Srsly, you don't have to worry about future updates with that phone.
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By chance, have you followed the thread? Like at all?
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Dubs devious said:
I went with the DROID <3 and i love it
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Glad to hear that! Hashcode is really taking the development at full speed. The test leak is really promising.
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Dubs devious said:
I went with the DROID <3 and i love it
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Glad you like it. On stock 2.3.4 the best thing you can do is root using Motofail and then freeze bloatware as there is a bunch. After than the phone will run much smoother. No official ICS for this phone, but with the recent Kexec progress having a stable ICS/JB ROM is looking more like a reality.

Guess I won't be joining the D3 party as apparently I still have full coverage replacement on my D2. Just hoping it doesn't come with 2.3.4 already on-board. Glad things worked out for you though Dubs.

This sucks for us.

http://www.phonedog.com/2012/08/08/...-x-follow-up-with-1-7ghz-quad-core-processor/
How will development for our HOX be then? This phone looks to be a beast.

Agreed
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SkizzMcNizz said:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/08/08/...-x-follow-up-with-1-7ghz-quad-core-processor/
How will development for our HOX be then? This phone looks to be a beast.
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i think its good for us... most of the things will be portable.

technology at work. Year and a half to go for most of us.

jags_the1 said:
i think its good for us... most of the things will be portable.
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Most likely different processors.

Supposed to be tegra 3 based.

Oh, hey look, another HTC i-device. What are they gonna lock down on this one, date and time changes? Widget locations on the home screen? Contact pictures?
I love my HOX, but HTC's pussification by bowing to AT&T to lock down the device is absurd, and goes against everything their CEO promised the modding/dev community. This very well may be the last time I buy from HTC.

OP how does this suck for us exactly? This is how it goes. Either way, it looks like replacement for intl hox, not ours.

If this had a quad core s4 I'd be mad. However it doesn't.. so I'm not. :thumbup:
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Are people seriously expecting upcoming phones to remain the same or.. be slower? Of course they will be faster and better than what we already have. It will have been at least 1/2 a year by the time this C2 comes out. Deal with it!

Itaintrite said:
Are people seriously expecting upcoming phones to remain the same or.. be slower? Of course they will be faster and better than what we already have. It will have been at least 1/2 a year by the time this C2 comes out. Deal with it!
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To be honest according to those specs I'd still prefer this version simply because of the battery sipping s4. I think tegra3 will shine in tablets.
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beaups said:
OP how does this suck for us exactly? This is how it goes. Either way, it looks like replacement for intl hox, not ours.
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That's what I was thinking international... But then I remembered the T-mobile rumor.
http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/07/25/htc-one-x-rumored-to-launch-on-t-mobile-come-september/
Still were divided into Tegra and Snapdragon camps anyway. Personally I prefer the battery life on the dual core platform especially considering how close in performance it can be. At this point I'm ready for any good news for HTC as they've been taking a beating in market share from Samsung lately.

It only sucks for people who NEED to be on the bleeding edge of technology. That was me a few years back until i realized i didn't have the resources to fund my expensive habit. So i tend to stay happy with the device i have now
But it does seem like HTC isn't staying so true to their word that they were gonna slow down the amount of devices. But this year is better than last year that's for sure.

I would totally buy that, except this is my last HTC device.
Billy

dylando808 said:
It only sucks for people who NEED to be on the bleeding edge of technology. That was me a few years back until i realized i didn't have the resources to fund my expensive habit. So i tend to stay happy with the device i have now
But it does seem like HTC isn't staying so true to their word that they were gonna slow down the amount of devices. But this year is better than last year that's for sure.
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I'm in the same boat. I would love to unleash my inner tech whore and plunk down money like there's no tomorrow on phones but honestly there's not a damn thing wrong with my one X. It's got great build quality, a great camera, awesome battery life and AOKP. Pretty much all I can ask for in a phone. I figure it will last me at least a year and a half which is more than I can say for pretty much every other phone I've ever owned. Only phone to last me over a year was my old nokia e71 (which I keep as a backup) and that was before I was exposed to the wonderful world of Android on my nexus one.

Same thing happens every time a new device comes out.
I don't get it. You think they should hold off bringing out a new phone until you've had enough of yours?
Is called progression...

I think ( tho could be wrong ) the op meant it sucks in terms of support.
I do understand....I bought 2 Evo 3d's paid over a grand for them 6 months later the phone is dropped for the 4G and I did well to sell one for 175 bucks, where as had I bought iphones I would have not lost so much.
So here we have the hox currently one hot phone, you bring out the "rumored" phone and now the hox turns in to ugly friend that nobody wants to date. So value drops, development drops, and support drops.
So yeah I see how it sucks.

Funny how you bring up the iPhone thing. I always think the same.. I switched to ATT the day the HOX came out. And now while I love the phone I don't want to be stuck with a phone that won't have development. With what little devs we have we are doing great, but what incentive do they have to stay when better phones are popping up? And now were stuck with this phone hardly anybody wants to buy after f____ing ATT dropped the price to a measly 100 dollars. That was a damn quick price drop.

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Word is its coming to tmo and possibly att as well. From what Flipboard has told me..
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Word is its coming to tmo and possibly att as well. From what Flipboard has told me..
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The linked article does not mention LTE. And I think Tegra chipsets with LTE are not coming until late this year, or even 2013? Without LTE, AT&T is not going to pick up this phone.
Looks to be an upgrade for international carriers, or a flagship for T-Mobile. Either way, that wouldn't affect our development much, if at all.

[Q] Getting a One X at this point in time

So I'm considering the One X as it is free from ATT for upgrades and I don't have a lot of cash right now. Is the One X worth it anymore or should I wait until I'm in a better position and spend $100 or $200 on the "best" current model?
I would try to use it for about two years till I can get another free upgrade.
I have the Samsung Focus currently and I'm just sick of it. Too dumbed down to be a real smartphone.
Thanks all.
ETA: Not asking about other models, which phone is best, etc. Don't want to get this locked. Just want to know about the One X.

Nobody can really make that call for you, as everyone's preferences and financial position is different and unique.
Personally, I don't like spending money (in you case, not money, but you are "spending" your upgrade) on any piece of technology that is already a generation or 2 behind. At least any technology that advances as quickly as smartphones. And the One X is pretty close to 2 generations behind at this point. Since it was already superceded by the One X+, and the HTC One will be released sometime in Q2.
On the other hand, many people keep the same phone for years, and don't care about the "latest and greatest".
Of course you are asking on XDA, and the people here tend to be tech junkies and replace their phones much more frequently than the general public.

Personally, this is the best phone I've owned... Mine poops on domestic s3's, and can damn near keep up with my bro in laws OneX+... It's been great to me.. got it on launch day.. not one single issue whatsoever... No scratches or anything, and I've never used a case or screen protector.. dev community is awesome and there are great roms and mods. With the newly discovered s-off, I'd say go for it if it's free bc it would be a hell of an update for you. I'll hold onto mine even when I buy the new HTC ONE.
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The HOX was a great device from launch day. Devs have come a long way in gaining Root, BL Unlock and now S-OFF. IMO, the HOX is the best phone on the market next to the HOX+. Since cash is an issue, I'd say go with the HOX till you can move on to another device. If you've lived with the Focus till now, the HOX will breathe new life into your Android addiction =)

I'd take this phone over a gs3. For being free its an excellent value.
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I'd take this phone over a gs3. For being free its an excellent value.
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100% agree
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Here's the thing: My dad has an iPhone 5, brother an S3. iPhone is done, over. Its boring and repetitive. S3 is good but its slippery and feels cheap the camera sucks the screen isn't as good as the One X and I hate the home button on that thing!. I'd go with the One X. You won't regret it!
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It all depends on your phone philosophy. Some people have to have the latest and greatest and are willing to pay the price. Others are fine waiting until previous "hot" phones get discounted. $200 for a phone is a lot of money for some people and that's fine. This is still a great phone, especially now that we have s-off. Just remember that the biggest cost of the phone is your contract. Over two years, you'll spend a lot more than $200.