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I use advanced task killer and minutes later I see MP3 Store, and Messages running. Before I saw a few others. Are they set to start running in memory for some reason? Not sure if they eat up much juice, but I wonder if I can make a list of certain ones and disable their start up somehow. Is there a task killter that blocks startups?
same here we need something to block these apps
Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
thecodemonk said:
Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
jeffrimerman said:
Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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yeah, that is a great idea. I imagine if I wanted it back I could just install it again. Thanks Codemonk.
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
it actually does, as well as lets the battery last longer since it isnt using as much processing power
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
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Let the phone run for a good 12 hours. I was down to 42MB free basically idling and only using Handcent. Killed a few tasks and back up to 175 and everything is snappy again.
I don't like having to use a task killer, I didn't have to with my N1.
maybe there will be an app like Scotty for windows 7. I check and a bunch of bloatware starts on it's own. It's all marketing bs. When there is a nice root stripped down, with all the nice stuff enabled I'll do that.
download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
pyr0path said:
download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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So if I leave it to no apps, will it load up with 0 apps running? Will it also prevent apps from randomly starting after phone is already on? Sounds like a nice app.
Unless startup auditor disables the service there is a list of apps that will randomly start up at times. I went into the application settings and apps like MP3 store don't have an option to uninstall.
I have used task killer to kill all apps and within minutes some start again.
"thecodemonk" why do you not use a task killer. I have only had an Android phone about 24 hours now and got a lot to learn.
First thing being how to enable tethering.
I have mine set to "safe" and it auto closes things when screen goes black.
Make sure you "IGNORE" certain apps... like the clock or else your alarm wont work... I almost over slept
I have the following set to ignore:
Messages
Handcent
clock
gmail
Mort Music player
Fastbright
Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
Fixter said:
I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
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It is in market, search "autokiller". Requires root access, but I can confirm it is working fine.
Wanted to add that I am annoyed by programs that I never intend to use running in the background. From recovery I used Android Commander to quickly select and delete every .apk in /system/app that I never wanted to see again.
Helo guys saw this topic and was over at androidcentral and saw this article which talks about an app that would kill any app that autostarts.
won't let me post links as i'm a new user, but go to androidcentral and look for the article about the app autostarts or just google "autostarts"
using task panel to kill the "junk" like amazon and mp3 store- also any program that doesnt attach itself to things like facebook or messages - i use skyfire so i have set that to autokill but leave the "internet" running..
i also use this to switch between apps running.. having to hit back back back or even going to home then program list then finding it is a long process.. for example ...
i get a handcent message - go into the threaded sms- type and im done - holding down the home screen doesnt pop all the programs up - therfor i set task panel up to stay on my status bar and hit it then go to the program i want.
I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks
dirk1965 said:
I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks
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Get os monitor and check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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What BW said. Don't worry about them in there unless you find one using up too much battery/resources. They won't drain your battery unless it's a bad app.
BWolf56 said:
Get os monitor abd check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.
dirk1965 said:
I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.
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You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart
BWolf56 said:
You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart
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Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.
dirk1965 said:
Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.
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Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.
BWolf56 said:
Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.
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Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.
dirk1965 said:
Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.
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I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.
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I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.
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Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?
dirk1965 said:
Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?
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once on the app, hit your menu button (bottom left one ) and you should have a setting option - each app will be different but it mostly comes to the same thing. Also if you don't have any menu option, there should be a (i) kind of image/icon somewhere in the main app page but these are rare. Most app will have their setting menu.
Thanks. I'll try it and see what happens.
nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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lyrad12 said:
nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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Glad I could help
Suddenly my optimus 3D dont allow install apk from sd and i can´t download from market, download never end or the install button appear dislable.
Any idea?
Are you a rooted user who has used a task manager to stop some auto running apps? If so you probably need to reset the auto run permissions for the market app.
If not, have you checked that you have the "allow non market apps" option ticked in the phones settings menu under the applications section? This enables installation of apps from places other than the android market.
Dave
maybe!!!!
mistermentality said:
Are you a rooted user who has used a task manager to stop some auto running apps? If so you probably need to reset the auto run permissions for the market app.
If not, have you checked that you have the "allow non market apps" option ticked in the phones settings menu under the applications section? This enables installation of apps from places other than the android market.
Dave
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allow non market apps is enabled, yes, i rooted my phone, how can i do that???
regars,
wawis said:
allow non market apps is enabled, yes, i rooted my phone, how can i do that???
regars,
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If you didn't change any settings using a task manager then market should be fine but if you want to check you can install an apps manager (I use the gemini app manager which is free on the android market so can only tell you how to do it with this app though it should be the same for most similar software).
Start the app manager and you will see a list of programs that are on your phone, scroll down the list until you see the android market app showing (it will just say "market" and a pic that looks like a green suitcase next to it).
Click on that picture and a menu appears with lots of choices.
Choose the choice that says "configure auto run" and after a few seconds it will show you a screen that has lots of writing on with "on/off" sliders at the right of the screen.
Basically if these are all green then the problem is not the market apps permissions. If any are not green just touch them and they will turn green. When all are green again just hit your phones back button and see if market now works properly.
Dave
mistermentality said:
If you didn't change any settings using a task manager then market should be fine but if you want to check you can install an apps manager (I use the gemini app manager which is free on the android market so can only tell you how to do it with this app though it should be the same for most similar software).
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the irony ^^ hehe sorry, couldn't resist, please don't take offense! ^^
Lol your right, although it may be possible to download apps from market via pc using markets push method or maybe getjar. No offence taken, I earned that reply
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I noticed that Facebook remains in memory even after you close it or not it ever opened.
There is a patch to close it completely or do not open automatically?
MarkAndroid said:
I noticed that Facebook remains in memory even after you close it or not it ever opened.
There is a patch to close it completely or do not open automatically?
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It's not only the Facebook app, many apps do the same. They start up at boot or other actions. They either remain running (as a service or otherwise) too keep you up to date (notification).
Other than uninstalling, you can use a tool like System Tuner. I think you need root for this. In its task manager, select a process, then scroll the list on the right side down to Receivers. Uncheck the triggers you want to disable. This can potentially render your app unusable, so be careful what you disable.
An alternative, if you do not use the app, but still keep it or cannot install it (useful for apps that came with your ROM) is to freeze them.
MarkAndroid said:
I noticed that Facebook remains in memory even after you close it or not it ever opened.
There is a patch to close it completely or do not open automatically?
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This might be kind of a hassle.
If you tap on the recent apps list.
Long tap the Facebook app it will give 2 options.
1 is remove from list
2 is app info
Tap app info
Then force close
Some say swiping from the recent apps list closes the service.
I don't believe it does.
At least this may be a way to shut Fbook down.
There's a lot of info about closing down applications on the Google Android developer blogs.
xcal321 said:
It's not only the Facebook app, many apps do the same. They start up at boot or other actions. They either remain running (as a service or otherwise) too keep you up to date (notification).
Other than uninstalling, you can use a tool like System Tuner. I think you need root for this. In its task manager, select a process, then scroll the list on the right side down to Receivers. Uncheck the triggers you want to disable. This can potentially render your app unusable, so be careful what you disable.
An alternative, if you do not use the app, but still keep it or cannot install it (useful for apps that came with your ROM) is to freeze them.
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Thanks for the reply. My TF700 is root!
The application I would not freeze it because sometimes I use it.
Try system tuner
I've read that it's not necessary to use a task manager and kill processes/programmes as Android manages itself fine.
But what about sliding out the recent apps list? What does it do and is it good/bad doing it?
Don't know if it matters but I've got Android 4.4.4.
trey77 said:
I've read that it's not necessary to use a task manager and kill processes/programmes as Android manages itself fine.
But what about sliding out the recent apps list? What does it do and is it good/bad doing it?
Don't know if it matters but I've got Android 4.4.4.
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The recent apps is a way of multitasking on Android devices, this new feature was introduced in Honeycomb and was later improved in newer Android versions.
The purpose of this said feature as said before is to help a user multitask. So if you're browsing the internet and have a specific page up. A minute or so later you get a message so you open the messaging app and make a reply. But now you want to go back to the same app you were one earlier without having to restart, reload or wait for the content to appear.
When sliding a specific app (task) from the recent apps menu, you're basically killing the app. (Removing it from the multitasking menu, it reduces ram consumption as the process for that app has now been shut down or limited. For example if you kill a messaging app, it runs a background service so you can receive messages. When you have the app open or running in the background it opens a new process, when you slide the app away you're removing the background process for it but you're not disabling the server process. (So you will still get messages).
In short form, when you slide an app away from the recent menu, you're killing the apps process. This is good when you don't need or you are not using the app. So if you have you don't need to multitask with a specific app, remove it from the menu and it'll restore ram so it speeds up your device.
Hopefully I helped, if there was something you didn't quite understand. Let me know and I'll try and explain it furthermore.
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Hopefully I helped, if there was something you didn't quite understand. Let me know and I'll try and explain it furthermore.
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Everything clear, thanks!