hi folks,
i am looking for a solution for sending video to my LG TV from my i9505. miracast devices like the PTV3000 look appealing (no cables!), but is the image quality (smoothness of playback etc) as good as going mhl adapter and hdmi lead?
bump. anybody got any comments about picture quality with miracast vs hdmi cable?
whatsisnametake2 said:
hi folks,
i am looking for a solution for sending video to my LG TV from my i9505. miracast devices like the PTV3000 look appealing (no cables!), but is the image quality (smoothness of playback etc) as good as going mhl adapter and hdmi lead?
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Search in this forum there is already a thread with a video review about the ptv3000
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I have both and can speak directly about their performance differences. I'm using my s4 as a Citrix client for work, and via the miracast, smaller 12 point font is pixelated and unreadable. It looks like the actual resolution of the wireless adjusts between 960 and 720 lines of resolution, and never goes to actual 1080. There is also about a full second of delay to the video signal so doing anything interactive is a bust.
The wired adapter is an impressively clear full 1080p with very minimal lag, but the adapter is awkward and you must be plugged in. Even at that, unless you are using the factory charger or one that you can set to 2 amps, you will lose overall battery in this scenario, even with the device screen turned all the way down. You cannot turn it off and continue to run the hdmi display unless you are rooted, and I haven't had a chance to go there yet.
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buji thanks for the feedback. Think I'll go for the mhl adaptor. I don't want to compromise picture quality.
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Hey all,
I finally got a chance to test the HDMI from my Zpad Dock (I'm using a Zpad T2 / SMB-A1002-3G)
I tried two different monitors (LCD TV's) and the quality is BAD!!!!
I've already got computers connected to these TV's and the quality is very good from the computers.
The video was ok'ish but the text and home screen was so bad you wouldn't use it.
Is there a way to change the resolution to the HDMI port like on a Windows computer?
Cheers, Mal.
Did you try an hd movie.,..mine worked very well
It looks to me like it's doing a very poor 720p upconversion. Videos will always look better than text or graphics when upconverted... but I suspect its still being upconverted from tablet screen resolution.
I'm disappointed with the quality. Maybe a future kernel or driver update will help. I also suspect this is the reason that vs didn't have (and still don't) the docks on sale next to the gtablets.
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GO JETS!!!!!!
The HD Video looks ok, but text was a much better test for me. I wanted to have a larger screen because I run RDP.
Can you adjust it anywhere. The other worry is that I somehow removed the HDMI settings when I reset my Zpad a while ago (I lost a few other programs that were not installed on ROM, eg Flash).
Thanks
I have no settings relating to HDMI or video out at all. TNTLite 3.1.4, lagfix & clemsons 10.9.8 kernal.
I just got my Zpad and i hooked up the HDMI and It didnt do anything. Do I need to change something in the settings? Im running Vegan-Tab. but then I pluged in the power supply and it worked fine.
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I just got my Zpad and i hooked up the HDMI and It didnt do anything. Do I need to change something in the settings? Im running Vegan-Tab. but then I pluged in the power supply and it worked fine.
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Power to the dock is needed to run the HDMI. That's why a cable for HDMI out hasn't been made yet for the zpad or Gtab.
What does the text quality look like from yours.
I can tell you that I have mine connected to a 1080p monitor via hdmi,
the visuals in whole look grainy, like it needs antialasing.
I just saw a video of the xoom on youtube and that guy had it connected to a 52" and I did not see the same grainy look.
I think it has to do with the resolution, ours is set at 1024 x 600 while the xoom is 1280 x 800.
I was wondering if there was a way to change the output resolution and not the tablet resolution?
Agree, it would be very handy to be able to do that.
Well I had grainy text and picture issues once I received my dock. Upon replacing the hdmi cable with a high quality cable did I notice a huge difference in picture and video quality. My HD movies look great, screen size (using a projector) is beautiful and the sharpness. The screen improved ten fold. Sound, picture, resolution, 1080p! all with a 20 foot HDMI cable. Even 3D support looks great!
HDMI cable
Well, guys, where to get a good quality HDMI cable from? And does the same cable work without dock as well?
If you're planning on running an ICS build, i would stay away from the cable as it does not work.
Does MHL have an inherent limitation of outputting at [email protected]? I have the cable for my HTC Sensation and that's what I get, just 24hz instead of 60hz that I thought. Also I realized the picture is not truly1080p. Sure the mode is 1080p on the tv but it's actually just the 960x540 native res of the phone's display that's upscaled to 1080. Anybody else have similar results or explanations?
I've had a similar result; all of my videos I play are upscaled to 1080p and to be honest the video doesn't look very good on my tv (you can see the upscaling by the big pixels). I'm using the Tmobile mhl adapter. I've seen youtube videos of the Galaxy S2 outputting 1080p movies through MHL. That looks like it is actually outputting real 1080p and not just being upscaled (but I'm not sure, its hard to tell from a youtube video). Does anyone else have input on this?
i know this is the sensation section however i have an evo 3d and it is pretty much the same internally. i too have this problem and i have a suspicion that it is due to the adapter. does anyone have the oem htc mhl adapter because my tvout is locked at 24fps probably due to my fake ebay mhl adapter. i dont want to spend $50 on a mhl adapter that may or may not be better than my current one.
I don't see how it would be able to not upscale the image?!
If it tried to use the full 1080p image then the resolution would need to change on the phone itself as well as the HDMI output.
Phil
i have a hdmi /mhl cable and it has came from mobilefun website and like other have mentioned i have different story because i use the mhl cable with my 24 inch led monitor which has a 1920*1080 res. but the trouble is that in setting it shows that it is outputting at 1280*[email protected] 60hz. i want toknow how can i make it work in 1920*1080 @60 hz.
another thing i want everyone to check is to type *#*#4636#*#* after connecting ur phone with your tv or monitor and check if your phone phone shows charging mode in ac or does it show usb charging
because in my case the problem is that it shows charging in usb mode and after a while of use i lose alot of battery and this is a problem because i have to take my phone and then i have to charge it normally also my phone gets very hot like nearly 50 degres.
please tell me ur experience with mhl cable with ur phone.
Hi! This is my first post on xda-developers. I'm not sure if this qualifies as a "question", bound for a Q&A...
I have an HTC One S (US, T-Mobile) for which I bought a cheap MHL adapter. The adapter plugs in to the phone's micro-USB port, has an HDMI out and requires you to plug the phone's charger into the adapter, providing charge to the phone. I'm pushing to an old monitor so the adapter's HDMI out goes through an HDMI to DVI adapter before reaching the display.
Everything is working fine except for video. It seems that no matter the video quality, the image constantly stutters. Neither the default video player nor MX Player (on H/W, H/W+, or S/W) will play more than a few seconds of video before locking up for several seconds, then only advancing a frame or two. There's no problem with video when not connected to the adapter. A fresh restart doesn't seem to help and I don't think I have any extra memory-hogging background apps (just the standard Sense and T-mobile apps).
Has anyone else had the same problem? My previous feature phone had a simple S-video out that let me show pictures and videos to my family while on holidays. Perplexing that I'm being outclassed by that old brick!
Thanks for any insights/advice!
No problems with my S and a MHL adapter (video is jerky cause it was recorded using a desire):
Skip to 1.53 for 1080P film playback
Give it a try on some other monitor/TV without the DVI adapter.
Also try BS player lite instead of MX player (although this most likely won't fix it as MX and stock should be perfectly fine)
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No problems with my S and a MHL adapter (video is jerky cause it was recorded using a desire):
Skip to 1.53 for 1080P film playback
Give it a try on some other monitor/TV without the DVI adapter.
Also try BS player lite instead of MX player (although this most likely won't fix it as MX and stock should be perfectly fine)
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Indeed, it works like a charm on a proper HD TV without the DVI adapter. Now I wonder if it's the adapter or the higher resolution of the monitor I'm plugging in to, and unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to control the output resolution from the phone. Perhaps it's using the highest available or perhaps it has to do some non-native scaling of the video.
Thanks for your help!
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Indeed, it works like a charm on a proper HD TV without the DVI adapter. Now I wonder if it's the adapter or the higher resolution of the monitor I'm plugging in to, and unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to control the output resolution from the phone. Perhaps it's using the highest available or perhaps it has to do some non-native scaling of the video.
Thanks for your help!
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What is the res. of the monitor? You should be able to find out what res. it is running at once the phone is plugged in (should be a wee info. box that pops up stating res., refresh rate etc.)
I think it could just be the DVI/HDMI adapter causing problems.
No problem
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Hi! This is my first post on xda-developers. I'm not sure if this qualifies as a "question", bound for a Q&A...
I have an HTC One S (US, T-Mobile) for which I bought a cheap MHL adapter. The adapter plugs in to the phone's micro-USB port, has an HDMI out and requires you to plug the phone's charger into the adapter, providing charge to the phone. I'm pushing to an old monitor so the adapter's HDMI out goes through an HDMI to DVI adapter before reaching the display.
Everything is working fine except for video. It seems that no matter the video quality, the image constantly stutters. Neither the default video player nor MX Player (on H/W, H/W+, or S/W) will play more than a few seconds of video before locking up for several seconds, then only advancing a frame or two. There's no problem with video when not connected to the adapter. A fresh restart doesn't seem to help and I don't think I have any extra memory-hogging background apps (just the standard Sense and T-mobile apps).
Has anyone else had the same problem? My previous feature phone had a simple S-video out that let me show pictures and videos to my family while on holidays. Perplexing that I'm being outclassed by that old brick!
Thanks for any insights/advice!
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im using the cable matters one and it works great
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Can I buy any MHL cable? and does it work with AOSP roms? Looking to get a cheap one on amazon.
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Can I buy any MHL cable? and does it work with AOSP roms? Looking to get a cheap one on amazon.
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If it doesn't say that it supports the one S, then don't buy it. It could/should work even if the one S is not listed but I rather not take the risk.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...l=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=HTC+one+MHL
Should work with AOSP ROMs as well.
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If it doesn't say that it supports the one S, then don't buy it. It could/should work even if the one S is not listed but I rather not take the risk.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...l=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=HTC+one+MHL
Should work with AOSP ROMs as well.
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Nice one dude, I have a look into that.
Darknites said:
Nice one dude, I have a look into that.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 this is the highest rated mhl adapter
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 this is the highest rated mhl adapter
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Thanks I get that one but from uk amazon lol.
Just bought the official Samsung Multimedia Dock (EDD-S20EWE) and unfortunately it only outputs 720p 30fps and it is very sluggish .
Just noticed on Samsung's site there's another dock (EDD-S20JWEGSTA) and it says that it outputs 1080p (no info on fps).
Anyone knows the second dock works at 60fps ?
I also have the S4 MHL to HDMI adapter and it works at 1080p 60fps without issues, would really like to know if the dock works at 60fps 'cause I'll be using it to connect to a 1080p TV, keyboard, mouse and external HDD.
Thanks
jmcg said:
Just bought the official Samsung Multimedia Dock (EDD-S20EWE) and unfortunately it only outputs 720p 30fps and it is very sluggish .
Just noticed on Samsung's site there's another dock (EDD-S20JWEGSTA) and it says that it outputs 1080p (no info on fps).
Anyone knows the second dock works at 60fps ?
I also have the S4 MHL to HDMI adapter and it works at 1080p 60fps without issues, would really like to know if the dock works at 60fps 'cause I'll be using it to connect to a 1080p TV, keyboard, mouse and external HDD.
Thanks
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I've just got 'EDD-S20EWEGSTD' and it outputs at 1080p @ 30hz. Don't know to check the the FPS though. The box is specifically branded for 'Note II' but still works with the S4. Manufacturer date on the box is 01/05/13.
Found a picture of the JWE box. They've renamed it to "Smart Dock for Galaxy Series" instead of "Multimedia Dock for Note II."
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Try it without the usb-mouse/keyboard plugged in (screen on)
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Try it without the usb-mouse/keyboard plugged in (screen on)
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Still running at 30hz for me. According to this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41889724&postcount=20
The newer JWE dock only outputs in 30hz as well.
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amviewer said:
Only problem is with that is you get 30hz output.
I got a dock which works for the S3/Note2/S4 but the output is 30hz.
Model Nr : EDD-S20JWEGSTA
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Samsung really need to create an updated dock for the S4 which supports 1080p/60hz. This is why I still have not bought one.
Any updates on this? Has Samsung provided us with a dock that outputs 1080p/60fps?
And could also act as USB OTG at the same time?^
Any unofficial or Note III docks etc. that would work like this?
hi,
Can 6P output video over USB-C?
Can generic USB C-type cable to HDMI be used?
Any other specific for 6P adapter can be used for HDMI wired output?
No, I don't need / want chromecast or miracast or etc wi-fi streaming.
thanks.
6p does not output hdmi
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heleos said:
6p does not output hdmi
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Why do they sell an hdmi adapter on the Google store then?
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Why do they sell an hdmi adapter on the Google store then?
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For the Pixel chromebook.
The 6P supports WiFi Direct, so I would suggest you go that route if at all possible. You may need to get a Miracast dongle for your flat panel display of projector.
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The 6P supports WiFi Direct, so I would suggest you go that route if at all possible. You may need to get a Miracast dongle for your flat panel display of projector.
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I need HDMI for my car Appradio HU
I thought that if 6P has type-C than it will have hdmi over it ... or hope it'll have it
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I need HDMI for my car Appradio HU
I thought that if 6P has type-C than it will have hdmi over it ... or hope it'll have it
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During the reddit AMA they said it would not output hdmi. I also didn't think about this when ordering (i have an appradio hu as well)
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I think because it's still USB 2.0 that it can't output via HDMI. On another note don't waste your time with a miracast dongle. I'm pretty sure Google dropped support for that to exclusively use Chromecast. IMHO I feel it's leaps and bounds better than miracast anyway and you can still mirror your phone
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Smallsmx3 said:
I think because it's still USB 2.0 that it can't output via HDMI. On another note don't waste your time with a miracast dongle. I'm pretty sure Google dropped support for that to exclusively use Chromecast. IMHO I feel it's leaps and bounds better than miracast anyway and you can still mirror your phone
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HDMI works just fine over USB2, it's MHL or SlimPort that extracts video/audio from phone microUSB port. I don't know details how it works, but that I use for my S3 with MHL adapter to feed HDMI input.
The specs say specifically WiFi Direct, which is what Miracast uses as the transport, so Miracast should work. It works well with my Nexus 7, and the Nexus 4, 5 and 10 work as well. The Motorola Nexus 6 did not support WiFi Direct. If Chromecast supports mirroring to the USB port of a flat panel or projector to display the output of the phone or tablet screen for PowerPoint, AutoCAD, etc, then great. At least in the past, that was not the case.
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If Chromecast supports mirroring to the USB port of a flat panel or projector to display the output of the phone or tablet screen for PowerPoint, AutoCAD, etc, then great. At least in the past, that was not the case.
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thats... not how chromecast works. receiving device needs something (chromecast, roku, fire stick) that supports the chromecast protocol (cast method). from there, you can mirror (cast) your device screen or chrome tab.
as far as using a miracast dongle goes, i believe it's the same principle as chromecast. you won't get display through the USB port of your device. the dongle has to connect through some video throughput (usually HDMI). most (if not all) display-only devices do not have the capability to accept display through a USB port.
I don't understand why it doesn't support hdmi output. The s6 doesn't either. I don't want use chromecast because i use my unlimited data plan to stream movies. That's only thing i'm jelly of the iphone right now.
omf05 said:
I don't understand why it doesn't support hdmi output. The s6 doesn't either. I don't want use chromecast because i use my unlimited data plan to stream movies. That's only thing i'm jelly of the iphone right now.
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what does having UDP and steaming movies have to do with CC? are you saying you want to steam movies from your phone to your device? there are apps that do this, including ES File Manager. if you're traveling, you'll need two devices to set up the CC to use your hotspot, but short of that, CC should work great for your needs.
everyone has different use case
for me I need that phone output video over HDMI input of my car radio (Appradio)
and I'd like to have it over cable
in my case streaming over wi-fi comes with annoying latency - that's delay between car touchscreen action and video display as reaction
for me it isn't about movie streaming, but GPS and other car related apps
mikek753 said:
everyone has different use case
for me I need that phone output video over HDMI input of my car radio (Appradio)
and I'd like to have it over cable
in my case streaming over wi-fi comes with annoying latency - that's delay between car touchscreen action and video display as reaction
for me it isn't about movie streaming, but GPS and other car related apps
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This.
I thought I could live without root and ARUnchained so that Android Pay would work easily, and just get by with screen mirroring without touch interface on the head unit. Since Marshmallow, I haven't rooted and I've just been mirroring my N5 through SlimPort. I don't know that I can get by like this after being so used to full interface. And I imagine that the lag on Chromecast would be highly annoying. I'm quite disappointed there is no HDMI output on 6P, but I'm getting it anyway.
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thats... not how chromecast works. receiving device needs something (chromecast, roku, fire stick) that supports the chromecast protocol (cast method). from there, you can mirror (cast) your device screen or chrome tab.
as far as using a miracast dongle goes, i believe it's the same principle as chromecast. you won't get display through the USB port of your device. the dongle has to connect through some video throughput (usually HDMI). most (if not all) display-only devices do not have the capability to accept display through a USB port.
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Oops, you are right. I said USB, but meant HDMI. For my Actiontec dongle, you use the USB port to power it, but the HDMI port for the video / audio.
I'll be honest... I see almost no lag Casting my N5 screen of a 1080p Youtube clip to Chromecast 2.
It actually surprised the hell out of me that the quality of the cast was much better than choosing the same video through the YouTube app for Chromecast
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This.
I thought I could live without root and ARUnchained so that Android Pay would work easily, and just get by with screen mirroring without touch interface on the head unit. Since Marshmallow, I haven't rooted and I've just been mirroring my N5 through SlimPort. I don't know that I can get by like this after being so used to full interface. And I imagine that the lag on Chromecast would be highly annoying. I'm quite disappointed there is no HDMI output on 6P, but I'm getting it anyway.
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Crap! What do we do now? I also use ARUnchained with my AppRadio 3. Just got my 6P today.
mikek753 said:
everyone has different use case
for me I need that phone output video over HDMI input of my car radio (Appradio)
and I'd like to have it over cable
in my case streaming over wi-fi comes with annoying latency - that's delay between car touchscreen action and video display as reaction
for me it isn't about movie streaming, but GPS and other car related apps
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I use the 6P via miracast to my AppRadio and the lag is non existant. The Nexus 5 struggled a bit but the 6P doesn't. This is using a Microsoft Wireless adapter.
Assuming you have supported the ARU developer, then join the Alpha group and he has a version that automates the connection process for Miracast / Chromecast. I have also posted in the ARUR thread how to get the screen to dim down to nothing.
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omf05 said:
I don't understand why it doesn't support hdmi output. The s6 doesn't either. I don't want use chromecast because i use my unlimited data plan to stream movies. That's only thing i'm jelly of the iphone right now.
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Mainly because TV technology has moved on and the technology to stream is in most of those now. Very few phones will support MHL or Slimport going forwards, if any at all within a year.
I would not have bought the Nexus 6P if I'd known that it did not support HDMI out. No doubt about it.