Does MHL have an inherent limitation of outputting at [email protected]? I have the cable for my HTC Sensation and that's what I get, just 24hz instead of 60hz that I thought. Also I realized the picture is not truly1080p. Sure the mode is 1080p on the tv but it's actually just the 960x540 native res of the phone's display that's upscaled to 1080. Anybody else have similar results or explanations?
I've had a similar result; all of my videos I play are upscaled to 1080p and to be honest the video doesn't look very good on my tv (you can see the upscaling by the big pixels). I'm using the Tmobile mhl adapter. I've seen youtube videos of the Galaxy S2 outputting 1080p movies through MHL. That looks like it is actually outputting real 1080p and not just being upscaled (but I'm not sure, its hard to tell from a youtube video). Does anyone else have input on this?
i know this is the sensation section however i have an evo 3d and it is pretty much the same internally. i too have this problem and i have a suspicion that it is due to the adapter. does anyone have the oem htc mhl adapter because my tvout is locked at 24fps probably due to my fake ebay mhl adapter. i dont want to spend $50 on a mhl adapter that may or may not be better than my current one.
I don't see how it would be able to not upscale the image?!
If it tried to use the full 1080p image then the resolution would need to change on the phone itself as well as the HDMI output.
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i have a hdmi /mhl cable and it has came from mobilefun website and like other have mentioned i have different story because i use the mhl cable with my 24 inch led monitor which has a 1920*1080 res. but the trouble is that in setting it shows that it is outputting at 1280*[email protected] 60hz. i want toknow how can i make it work in 1920*1080 @60 hz.
another thing i want everyone to check is to type *#*#4636#*#* after connecting ur phone with your tv or monitor and check if your phone phone shows charging mode in ac or does it show usb charging
because in my case the problem is that it shows charging in usb mode and after a while of use i lose alot of battery and this is a problem because i have to take my phone and then i have to charge it normally also my phone gets very hot like nearly 50 degres.
please tell me ur experience with mhl cable with ur phone.
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Has anyone tried hdmi mirroring on their Charge? I was curious as to how well it plays video and/or does it have enough power to play 720p.
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Yes, I tried the HDMI mirror mode and it was great. With mirror mode it shows you what screen is on your phone and diplayed on the TV.
I some videos from my Droid and played couple of them in mirror mode and was pixelated but I played videos taken from my DC and it played great. I tried out pictures I have and those where awesome.
What resolution does the hdmi port output?
On my DLP HD tv and my HD projector it displays at 1080p....Looks damn good too
Are you certain the signal is 1080p? Most TVs will tell you the signal resolution with some sort of "info" button.
I ask a second time, because my understanding is that 720p is the hdmi output signal.
Thanks again.
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On my DLP HD tv and my HD projector it displays at 1080p....Looks damn good too
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Are you certain the signal is 1080p? Most TVs will tell you the signal resolution with some sort of "info" button.
I ask a second time, because my understanding is that 720p is the hdmi output signal.
Thanks again.
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I am almost certain it is 1080p
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Are you certain the signal is 1080p? Most TVs will tell you the signal resolution with some sort of "info" button.
I ask a second time, because my understanding is that 720p is the hdmi output signal.
Thanks again.
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Both my projector and my tv automatically tell you what resolution it being displayed when you switch to a different input. I am 100% sure it's 1080p as my vision is 20/20 and I can clearly read what it says. Not being a smart ass...lol..but yes it does say 1080p on both of my displays.
when you say 720p is the display output for HDMI, do you mean the device or any HDMI output. Becuase the max resolution through HDMI is 1080p. 720p can be acheived through a component output as well as HDMI and is not the max resolution of an HDMI output. But I assure you that this when my phone is hooked up to HDMI my display tells me its 1080p. If you are reading some where that the device is only able to display 720p maybe it's incorrect or maybe my displays are up converting it some how. Either way it is dispaying at 1080p.
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Both my projector and my tv automatically tell you what resolution it being displayed when you switch to a different input. I am 100% sure it's 1080p as my vision is 20/20 and I can clearly read what it says. Not being a smart ass...lol..but yes it does say 1080p on both of my displays.
when you say 720p is the display output for HDMI, do you mean the device or any HDMI output. Becuase the max resolution through HDMI is 1080p. 720p can be acheived through a component output as well as HDMI and is not the max resolution of an HDMI output. But I assure you that this when my phone is hooked up to HDMI my display tells me its 1080p. If you are reading some where that the device is only able to display 720p maybe it's incorrect or maybe my displays are up converting it some how. Either way it is dispaying at 1080p.
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Thanks for clarifying. I do wonder if there is some kind of up converting. I guess you would really have to run some 1080 test patterns on your TV via your Charge to see if it really does generate 1080 output and not just up converting 720..
I do understand HDMI a bit. I have read that the hummingbird CPU/GPU supports XGA resolution, which is not 1080p. I think it's 1024x768.
I was a bit skeptical when someone said it was 1080p.
So I guess the question is, is it up converting?
I'm really interesting in the Charge. I am following all the threads and discussion on desktop use of Android. Right now, CM7 is working great with the EVO in regards to desktop use (extrenal monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc), but I think it's limited to 720p per the HTC/EVO hardware.
Info here about desktop use of an Android phone with HDMI out/CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038840
I purchased this adapter from monoprice, and I cannot get a picture to show up on an external monitor.
I've tried a samsung which is 1920x1200 and a dell that is 1920x1080. Neither monitors detect a signal.
The cable and adapter work with my phone (LG G2X - tegra 2 based); but the picture is 800x480.
has anyone got this to work, and if so, was there a trick to it?
On my old prime I used a micro HDMI adapter a HDMI cable then a HDMI to dvi and that worked. Not sure about the infinity though
Your monitor also has to support the resolution that the Infinity outputs at (1920x1080 60hz). I have two wide screen LCD Monitors and one supports this resolution and the other does not.
My dell support 1080p natively, and my samsung supports it via scaling. I have used the same cable and adapter to hook up my tegra 2 based phone running 2.3.4. It will output 1080p when playing back a 1080p movie using hardware acceleration. It works with both monitors. The TF700 does not. I'm wondering if maybe it's an ICS thing (or a TF700 version of ICS)
Hmm, did you try turning off the 3D output?
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Hmm, did you try turning off the 3D output?
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toggling 3d has no effect.
I read that if you leave the tablet on the 3d menu for a few seconds it will toggle the scaling mode on the external display. Again, the monitors just say "no signal".
The hdmi out to an hdmi device ( I tried a TV and a projector ) works great. It just doesn't work over DVI.
I have a theory that this is a HDCP issue. That my hdmi-dvi adapter doesn't support it. I've ordered a new cable that I understand does specifically support HDCP. I report back if it works.
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I have a theory that this is a HDCP issue. That my hdmi-dvi adapter doesn't support it. I've ordered a new cable that I understand does specifically support HDCP. I report back if it works.
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Just so you know, the cable is blissfully ignorant of any HDCP being transferred over it since it's an end-to-end encryption. The two devices being connected together needs to be HDCP compliant, the cable just transfers the data, whether they're encrypted or not.
You're right that it might be a HDCP issue though, but I don't see how a cable can cause that (unless it's a bad cable, that is). HDCP incompatability (in lack of a better word) isn't all uncommon, sadly. HDCP is an abomination and should be killed, preferrably with lots of fire.
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A different cable did not solve the problem. As I type this, I have my PS3 connected to my samsung (1920x1200 ) playing in slightly stretched 1080p mode using the same cable that I bought for the TF700.
the PS3 is undoubtedly enforcing HDCP. It plays games and movies at full resolution.
so, I think that's it. the TF700 just does not work over DVI.
Hi! This is my first post on xda-developers. I'm not sure if this qualifies as a "question", bound for a Q&A...
I have an HTC One S (US, T-Mobile) for which I bought a cheap MHL adapter. The adapter plugs in to the phone's micro-USB port, has an HDMI out and requires you to plug the phone's charger into the adapter, providing charge to the phone. I'm pushing to an old monitor so the adapter's HDMI out goes through an HDMI to DVI adapter before reaching the display.
Everything is working fine except for video. It seems that no matter the video quality, the image constantly stutters. Neither the default video player nor MX Player (on H/W, H/W+, or S/W) will play more than a few seconds of video before locking up for several seconds, then only advancing a frame or two. There's no problem with video when not connected to the adapter. A fresh restart doesn't seem to help and I don't think I have any extra memory-hogging background apps (just the standard Sense and T-mobile apps).
Has anyone else had the same problem? My previous feature phone had a simple S-video out that let me show pictures and videos to my family while on holidays. Perplexing that I'm being outclassed by that old brick!
Thanks for any insights/advice!
No problems with my S and a MHL adapter (video is jerky cause it was recorded using a desire):
Skip to 1.53 for 1080P film playback
Give it a try on some other monitor/TV without the DVI adapter.
Also try BS player lite instead of MX player (although this most likely won't fix it as MX and stock should be perfectly fine)
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No problems with my S and a MHL adapter (video is jerky cause it was recorded using a desire):
Skip to 1.53 for 1080P film playback
Give it a try on some other monitor/TV without the DVI adapter.
Also try BS player lite instead of MX player (although this most likely won't fix it as MX and stock should be perfectly fine)
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Indeed, it works like a charm on a proper HD TV without the DVI adapter. Now I wonder if it's the adapter or the higher resolution of the monitor I'm plugging in to, and unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to control the output resolution from the phone. Perhaps it's using the highest available or perhaps it has to do some non-native scaling of the video.
Thanks for your help!
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Indeed, it works like a charm on a proper HD TV without the DVI adapter. Now I wonder if it's the adapter or the higher resolution of the monitor I'm plugging in to, and unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to control the output resolution from the phone. Perhaps it's using the highest available or perhaps it has to do some non-native scaling of the video.
Thanks for your help!
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What is the res. of the monitor? You should be able to find out what res. it is running at once the phone is plugged in (should be a wee info. box that pops up stating res., refresh rate etc.)
I think it could just be the DVI/HDMI adapter causing problems.
No problem
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Hi! This is my first post on xda-developers. I'm not sure if this qualifies as a "question", bound for a Q&A...
I have an HTC One S (US, T-Mobile) for which I bought a cheap MHL adapter. The adapter plugs in to the phone's micro-USB port, has an HDMI out and requires you to plug the phone's charger into the adapter, providing charge to the phone. I'm pushing to an old monitor so the adapter's HDMI out goes through an HDMI to DVI adapter before reaching the display.
Everything is working fine except for video. It seems that no matter the video quality, the image constantly stutters. Neither the default video player nor MX Player (on H/W, H/W+, or S/W) will play more than a few seconds of video before locking up for several seconds, then only advancing a frame or two. There's no problem with video when not connected to the adapter. A fresh restart doesn't seem to help and I don't think I have any extra memory-hogging background apps (just the standard Sense and T-mobile apps).
Has anyone else had the same problem? My previous feature phone had a simple S-video out that let me show pictures and videos to my family while on holidays. Perplexing that I'm being outclassed by that old brick!
Thanks for any insights/advice!
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im using the cable matters one and it works great
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Can I buy any MHL cable? and does it work with AOSP roms? Looking to get a cheap one on amazon.
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Can I buy any MHL cable? and does it work with AOSP roms? Looking to get a cheap one on amazon.
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If it doesn't say that it supports the one S, then don't buy it. It could/should work even if the one S is not listed but I rather not take the risk.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...l=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=HTC+one+MHL
Should work with AOSP ROMs as well.
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If it doesn't say that it supports the one S, then don't buy it. It could/should work even if the one S is not listed but I rather not take the risk.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...l=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=HTC+one+MHL
Should work with AOSP ROMs as well.
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Nice one dude, I have a look into that.
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Nice one dude, I have a look into that.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 this is the highest rated mhl adapter
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 this is the highest rated mhl adapter
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Thanks I get that one but from uk amazon lol.
Just bought the official Samsung Multimedia Dock (EDD-S20EWE) and unfortunately it only outputs 720p 30fps and it is very sluggish .
Just noticed on Samsung's site there's another dock (EDD-S20JWEGSTA) and it says that it outputs 1080p (no info on fps).
Anyone knows the second dock works at 60fps ?
I also have the S4 MHL to HDMI adapter and it works at 1080p 60fps without issues, would really like to know if the dock works at 60fps 'cause I'll be using it to connect to a 1080p TV, keyboard, mouse and external HDD.
Thanks
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Just bought the official Samsung Multimedia Dock (EDD-S20EWE) and unfortunately it only outputs 720p 30fps and it is very sluggish .
Just noticed on Samsung's site there's another dock (EDD-S20JWEGSTA) and it says that it outputs 1080p (no info on fps).
Anyone knows the second dock works at 60fps ?
I also have the S4 MHL to HDMI adapter and it works at 1080p 60fps without issues, would really like to know if the dock works at 60fps 'cause I'll be using it to connect to a 1080p TV, keyboard, mouse and external HDD.
Thanks
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I've just got 'EDD-S20EWEGSTD' and it outputs at 1080p @ 30hz. Don't know to check the the FPS though. The box is specifically branded for 'Note II' but still works with the S4. Manufacturer date on the box is 01/05/13.
Found a picture of the JWE box. They've renamed it to "Smart Dock for Galaxy Series" instead of "Multimedia Dock for Note II."
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Try it without the usb-mouse/keyboard plugged in (screen on)
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Try it without the usb-mouse/keyboard plugged in (screen on)
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Still running at 30hz for me. According to this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41889724&postcount=20
The newer JWE dock only outputs in 30hz as well.
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Only problem is with that is you get 30hz output.
I got a dock which works for the S3/Note2/S4 but the output is 30hz.
Model Nr : EDD-S20JWEGSTA
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Samsung really need to create an updated dock for the S4 which supports 1080p/60hz. This is why I still have not bought one.
Any updates on this? Has Samsung provided us with a dock that outputs 1080p/60fps?
And could also act as USB OTG at the same time?^
Any unofficial or Note III docks etc. that would work like this?
hi folks,
i am looking for a solution for sending video to my LG TV from my i9505. miracast devices like the PTV3000 look appealing (no cables!), but is the image quality (smoothness of playback etc) as good as going mhl adapter and hdmi lead?
bump. anybody got any comments about picture quality with miracast vs hdmi cable?
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hi folks,
i am looking for a solution for sending video to my LG TV from my i9505. miracast devices like the PTV3000 look appealing (no cables!), but is the image quality (smoothness of playback etc) as good as going mhl adapter and hdmi lead?
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Search in this forum there is already a thread with a video review about the ptv3000
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I have both and can speak directly about their performance differences. I'm using my s4 as a Citrix client for work, and via the miracast, smaller 12 point font is pixelated and unreadable. It looks like the actual resolution of the wireless adjusts between 960 and 720 lines of resolution, and never goes to actual 1080. There is also about a full second of delay to the video signal so doing anything interactive is a bust.
The wired adapter is an impressively clear full 1080p with very minimal lag, but the adapter is awkward and you must be plugged in. Even at that, unless you are using the factory charger or one that you can set to 2 amps, you will lose overall battery in this scenario, even with the device screen turned all the way down. You cannot turn it off and continue to run the hdmi display unless you are rooted, and I haven't had a chance to go there yet.
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buji thanks for the feedback. Think I'll go for the mhl adaptor. I don't want to compromise picture quality.