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Persistant Volume Issue in Gingerbread

Quoting from another thread, apparently I'm not the only one with this issue so I'd like to dedicate this thread to finding a possible fix (PS, if someone can suggest a better title let me know).
open1your1eyes0 said:
Hmm maybe it's just me but I think I discovered the oddest bug ever. For some reason, the first sound I hear after like 30 seconds of idle is quieter than what I'm set to in the volume settings and then if I keep using the device without idle all the sounds are loud like normal after that first sound.
For example, I have the device locked with screen off for a while, I unlock the device and the unlock sound is really quiet, then I immediately lock it and unlock it again and now the sound is loud like normal. I keep doing that and it sounds fine each time after that, but as soon as I lock it and leave it idle for like 30 seconds or more and unlock it again, the unlock sound is quiet again.
Also this doesn't only affect the unlock sound, it affects everything, notifications, alarm, ringer, etc....and all my volume is set to maximum I even checked with a 3rd party app. The same thing happened on the previous 2.07 and 2.10 leaks, it's almost like Gingerbread introduced this weird "automatically lower master volume after idle mode". I can't seem to find any option that would affect it.
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So basically the first sound you hear after a short or long idle time will always be quieter than your actual setting and then keep using the device and everything sounds normal. I almost overslept and missed calls several times cause my alarm and ringtones are so quiet now.
Anyone have any ideas what could be done or taken a look at here?
EDIT: FYI, someone else claimed they had it since MR1 update but I had no issues on Froyo whatsoever. This only became introduced to me with the first 2.07 leak.

I've noticed this as well. I didn't find it to be a big deal, but thought I'd share.
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all i know is even with volume+ the volume sucks on this phone. my wife's lg vortex is 5x louder. we need a dev to look into this.

I honestly thought I was alone on this one. I miss texts and calls all the time because the volume is so quiet after idle.
It is easy to see this with gingeritis all you have to do is turn the volume up to max for your ringer, and then turn the screen off and let it sit for a minute or two. Then turn the screen back on and push the volume up key, you will notice the first sound it makes is really soft, and if you push it again, it makes the normal loud sound.
I hope someone sheds light on this...I for one would like to stop missing calls
I am about to try the official RUU and see if it still does it, but it's only done it since I started using gingerbread roms.

arunningpir8 said:
I honestly thought I was alone on this one. I miss texts and calls all the time because the volume is so quiet after idle.
It is easy to see this with gingeritis all you have to do is turn the volume up to max for your ringer, and then turn the screen off and let it sit for a minute or two. Then turn the screen back on and push the volume up key, you will notice the first sound it makes is really soft, and if you push it again, it makes the normal loud sound.
I hope someone sheds light on this...I for one would like to stop missing calls
I am about to try the official RUU and see if it still does it, but it's only done it since I started using gingerbread roms.
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aosp roms are louder but not loud enough. we for sure need a volume boost. i cannot imagine it would be that hard to do.

I was just getting ready to start a thread about a possible volume booster.. I can't remember if it was the tb or fascinate i had it on but, adrynalyne had a program called drm i think in his roms that enhanced the volume.. the problem I'm having is the media volume.. I'm trying to listen to MLB at bat here at work but can barely hear the broadcast.
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Hmm volume booster does seem to be a good workaround idea but I think the main issue is the fact that the volume level automatically changes regardless of the volume loudness. If only someone might be able to figure out what this can be caused by.....
Also I noticed something interesting today. On some sounds it actually seems like it starts off quiet and then makes it louder while the sound is playing. It's hard to tell cause it's so fast but it's definitely noticeable in some cases.

On cm7 there is an option to play notifications and ringtone through the speaker (even though I thought they did anyway) but I haven't noticed the problem with that selected.
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someone should look into the lg vortex volume and try to port the mod over. my wifes phone is 10x louder than my tbolt. hers is aosp too.

FYI, I have only tested this on the official leaks. No custom ROMs or AOSP yet. Though I'm quite tempted to find out if this occurs on other ROMs as well (especially AOSP).

open1your1eyes0 said:
Quoting from another thread, apparently I'm not the only one with this issue so I'd like to dedicate this thread to finding a possible fix (PS, if someone can suggest a better title let me know).
So basically the first sound you hear after a short or long idle time will always be quieter than your actual setting and then keep using the device and everything sounds normal. I almost overslept and missed calls several times cause my alarm and ringtones are so quiet now.
Anyone have any ideas what could be done or taken a look at here?
EDIT: FYI, someone else claimed they had it since MR1 update but I had no issues on Froyo whatsoever. This only became introduced to me with the first 2.07 leak.
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It takes a split second for the audio amplifier to fire up. The kernel is probably not accounting for this. The audio amplifier suspends after usage just like the screen does to prevent battery drain.
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nelboy said:
It takes a split second for the audio amplifier to fire up. The kernel is probably not accounting for this. The audio amplifier suspends after usage just like the screen does to prevent battery drain.
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Hmm that's an interesting theory but just FYI, the screen times out later than the volume begins to idle to quiet (if it matters). You think flashing another kernel might fix the issue?

open1your1eyes0 said:
Hmm that's an interesting theory but just FYI, the screen times out later than the volume begins to idle to quiet (if it matters). You think flashing another kernel might fix the issue?
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Sorry. I didn't mean they time out at the same time. Just meant that it also suspends to save battery. I have a feeling this won't be solved until the gingerbread sense kernel source is released. A really good kernel dev might be able to look into this with their current source. You might also notice a pop or crackle sound due to this same issue. Again it is coming from the amplifier powering up WHILE the audio is playing instead of BEFORE. There could be an underlying latency in the hardware but I doubt that's true since it wasn't really noticeable on Froyo. Android has always had a problem with audio latency although it has been pretty much "worked around".
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nelboy said:
Sorry. I didn't mean they time out at the same time. Just meant that it also suspends to save battery. I have a feeling this won't be solved until the gingerbread sense kernel source is released. A really good kernel dev might be able to look into this with their current source. You might also notice a pop or crackle sound due to this same issue. Again it is coming from the amplifier powering up WHILE the audio is playing instead of BEFORE. There could be an underlying latency in the hardware but I doubt that's true since it wasn't really noticeable on Froyo. Android has always had a problem with audio latency although it has been pretty much "worked around".
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Hmm I see. FYI, I also noticed this issue is extremely obvious when opening the phone dialer for the first time and just press like the number 1. You can hear for a split second as if it "boots up" the audio amplifier the dialing sound for the button grows from silent to normal volume. Then as you dial the rest it sounds fine. But cancel out of the phone dialer and back into literally after like as short as 5 seconds press a number on the dialpad again, you hear it making dialing sound quiet to louder and then normal for the rest of the dialing.
Such a bizarre issue, I really don't understand why this problem just occurred in Gingerbread builds if it's been absolutely fine on older Froyo builds. You would think something as obvious as this would be one of the first bugs they try to resolve. And it seems like it wouldn't be that hard also (assuming it's just a setting in the kernel coding or something).
FYI, if it helps anyone willing to look into it I found out the audio amplifier for the Thunderbolt is a TI TPA2051.
I am really hoping some of our higher up guys can take a look at this. I am really curious to know what (if anything) can fix this issue.

i do know the overall volume on sense roms are much quieter than aosp. what a waste of a good speaker. we for sure need a fix here.

It might not be as easy as it sounds. Audio can be handled quite differently from OEM to OEM. I'm not sure if the thunderbolt is using the native Android audio or if HTC is using their own implementation. You also have to throw the audio Codec into the mix. Here is a link that although it doesn't explain our specific problem, you can see the complexity and the inherent issues with Android audio http://groups.google.com/group/android-ndk/browse_thread/thread/1744088af0924ed9/7170773c13aabe2f i'm not sure about now but the general consensus with audio developers used to be that google needed to stop trying to implement fancy bells and whistles in the audio and get a good solid foundation to start with. Gingerbread was supposed to address some of these issues but I don't believe it did.
Anyway, i'm not positive but you may notice the problem more in gingerbread because there were quite a few changes in the native audio implementation.
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nelboy said:
Sorry. I didn't mean they time out at the same time. Just meant that it also suspends to save battery. I have a feeling this won't be solved until the gingerbread sense kernel source is released. A really good kernel dev might be able to look into this with their current source. You might also notice a pop or crackle sound due to this same issue. Again it is coming from the amplifier powering up WHILE the audio is playing instead of BEFORE. There could be an underlying latency in the hardware but I doubt that's true since it wasn't really noticeable on Froyo. Android has always had a problem with audio latency although it has been pretty much "worked around".
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Gingerbread Kernel Source for Thunderbolt just released: Link

I know this thread is old, but something i've noticed in regards to this. Im running a semi-stock ROM (xda-bolt), with a stock kernel. I noticed the volume changes don't happen on this ROM, however with a modified kernel such as IMOs 6, the problem arises. Any other non-stock kernel i've used has this problem, but stock kernels do not.

[Q] Very Weak Vibration

I have i727r. When I got the phone the vibration for phone calls and notifications was pretty weak. It may just be me but it seems like its gotten even weaker since then. I often won't even feel it vibrating in my pocket. Is this everyones experience or did I get a dud that I should send in?

you can change the vibration intensity

rbk7 said:
I have i727r. When I got the phone the vibration for phone calls and notifications was pretty weak. It may just be me but it seems like its gotten even weaker since then. I often won't even feel it vibrating in my pocket. Is this everyones experience or did I get a dud that I should send in?
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Hit the thanks button by mistake. Oh well, guess I popped ur thanks cherry lol. Change intensity yes, but if it was weak to begin with it may be faulty, I highly suggest a warranty return

Ya I know I have it turned up all the way for both calls and notifications. But thanks for the suggestion. Strangely haptic feedback seems to feel stronger than call vibration. For a warranty return do you think they'll give me a new phone then and there or send it in for repairs?

rbk7 said:
Ya I know I have it turned up all the way for both calls and notifications. But thanks for the suggestion. Strangely haptic feedback seems to feel stronger than call vibration. For a warranty return do you think they'll give me a new phone then and there or send it in for repairs?
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Haptic feedback vibrations are strong? Can I make a suggestion and have u flash my efs fix from here?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611796
It may help, but I guarantee it won't hurt

From the day I got the phone, I always thought the vibration was pretty weak too. I always crank up the intensity in settings but it's still pretty soft. Haven't noticed any difference across various ROMs. I guess it's just a tradeoff between being able to really feel the vibrate but it being loud (like my old Blackjack) and making it a quieter vibrate but it being weak. Still bugs me a bit tho.
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plwalsh88 said:
From the day I got the phone, I always thought the vibration was pretty weak too. I always crank up the intensity in settings but it's still pretty soft. Haven't noticed any difference across various ROMs. I guess it's just a tradeoff between being able to really feel the vibrate but it being loud (like my old Blackjack) and making it a quieter vibrate but it being weak. Still bugs me a bit tho.
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T989 has strong vibrations, but when I install an i727 kernel, it has weak vibrations, so yes, it is a bit soft, but I think you can overcrank the haptic feedback seetings in framework, so it has strong vibrations...
Speed is nothing more than just a word... a judgment ...

alphadog32 said:
T989 has strong vibrations, but when I install an i727 kernel, it has weak vibrations, so yes, it is a bit soft, but I think you can overcrank the haptic feedback seetings in framework, so it has strong vibrations...
Speed is nothing more than just a word... a judgment ...
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I figured there's gotta be a way. Would that increase the notification vibrate too though?

plwalsh88 said:
I figured there's gotta be a way. Would that increase the notification vibrate too though?
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You would just need to re-try until you get right settings.

Good day guys ,
I've been reading around post and post regarding the vibration issues with the S2.
Now , I have transformed a SHW-M250S into a GT I9100 which from what I understand is the reason for loosing the vibration strength.
Unfortunately i couldn't find a specific post directly related to this issue , only hints every here and there , some regarding playing around with the vibrator file in the sys. folder , but i don't know if this were device specific or not.
My device is rooted and i'm running 2.3.5.
Is there anyone who managed to get a fix for this ? i.e. flashing a different Kernel , etc. ?
Thank you for your time !

I've also noticed the vibration has gotten weaker in the year I've had the phone now. I remember it being really strong, especially before I got a case protector (rubberized on the inside of the case)... Could be my fault though because I fried the charging port and installed a new part.
It seems now i hear the vibration more than I feel it, even when turned on maximum.

Ringer Volume

My wife just got a blaze coming from a MT4G. Her ringer volume is extremely low and we've turned the setting up all the way. Is this a known issue or has anyone had similar issues? If so what was done to fix it?

claytonj said:
My wife just got a blaze coming from a MT4G. Her ringer volume is extremely low and we've turned the setting up all the way. Is this a known issue or has anyone had similar issues? If so what was done to fix it?
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Haven't really had a issue with sound volume. You may want to give Volume+ a go. Great app and I have had it installed on every phone I ever owned even when I didn't need it.
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Allow me to put on my cynical, bitter, jerk hat.
You're getting old man. You can use a different ringtone file that you might have better success with. Have one you like, but it's not loud enough still?
Throw the file in audacity or some other sound editing application (for your desktop) and raise the DB gain a few points.
Presto, now you can really annoy people with the ringtone. (If you raise the DB too much, the sound will distort of course)

It seems you have a cynical edge to every post...I've been lurking around the Blaze forum for tips and all I have seen is you interjecting your opinion as gospel wherever you go.
Volume + does not work, along with several other apps...I have tried to no avail.
altering db levels has minimal effect with this phone. I imagine the audio processor clips at a certain level so regardless of the limit on the file, the internal amplifier will not allow beyond a certain level so you are pushing an overdriven input to a clipped output. I have yet to measure this, but can tell you that by adding +6db gain to an audio file, which essentially doubles the output power twice over it's existing level, the overall difference in output through the speaker is negligible where it should have been noticeable.
I imagine the changes must first take place in the phone software, which up until this point has not happened most likely due to the fact that no developers have these lesser phones.
A small lesson in decorum...advise as though you think you MAY be correct, not as though you are sure you are. Your advice MAY be far more welcomed.

Let's have an internet argument.

Cirkustanz said:
Let's have an internet argument.
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lets not...
if you dont have anything nice to say.. dont. it is not welcome on xda. <-- (period)

I think my 1st gen vibrant is louder than the blaze...just by a little though. I love how fast the blaze is though.
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I got a Blaze last week. I quickly noticed that the ringer and speakerphone volume are quite low, compared to other phones I have (Samsung Exhibit 2, Motorola Defy and Nokia C-7). I was hoping to find that my sample is defective, but after reading this thread I understand that they are all like that. I like this phone a lot, but for me it fails in the most basic functionality.

A few issues with S6

There are a few silly issues I'm having with the phone and I just want to find out if anything can be done, for my sanitys sake.
I hate the way the screen lights up when I plug my headphones in.
I hate the fact that the countdown timer will vibrate only in vibrate mode (unlike my M7 which made a noise) but when not in vibrate mode it was only make a noise. I guess it makes sense if you think about it, but to me, its nonsense. I want it to vibrate AND make a sound in either mode, hell I'd even take sound+vibrate in ringer on mode at this point. So I can be listening to music and the timer goes off (in vibrate mode) and if I don't feel the vibration in my pocket, tough. Hard to explain, but I have to call back to the HTC M7, it didn't do this, it worked.
I hate the way that the alarm clock has increasing volume only once. If you snooze the phone, the next time the alarm goes off, it goes off full blast, no increasing volume.
I've been using XtreStoLite Deo-Mod Edition 2.4 rom with a week or so now and it's great. But I have noticed some issues which really worry me. I got this phone because it's fast. But when I press the power button there is a definate delay until the screen lights up and Facebook messenger for reasons unknown makes the phone unusable, it lags so bad and even the soft keys don't work. Never did this on other phones and my partners non-rooted S6 is fine.
It does make me wonder, is all this rooting and custom ROM worth it. So far, I've got odd lag and an app which nearly breaks the phone. If I could adblock and restore apps without rooting, I think I would unroot.

Then sell it and be happy
What is your question exactly then?

jody2k said:
Then sell it and be happy
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Can we automate it so your response is posted for every thread talking about issues with this phone?
My Question is, are any of my issues "fixable". I know xposed could do a lot of things for the M7. Is there something I've missed which can help me with my issues?

X82X said:
Can we automate it so your response is posted for every thread talking about issues with this phone?
My Question is, are any of my issues "fixable". I know xposed could do a lot of things for the M7. Is there something I've missed which can help me with my issues?
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Chill i was making a joke
Have you tried full wipe? Or completely unroot to stock? Then back?

I have.
My Mrs has a unrooted stock S6 which I use for comparison.
The lag issues and issue with Messenger are only my phone, the isues I have with the screen lighting up with headphones plugged in and the alarm clock, we both share those.
I know the lag and messenger issue could be fixed by going back to stock, but this is the problem with custom roms and rooting. You get given nice features and you risk losing them all when going back to stock. I can live without messenger and the wake up lag I can just put up with, but it isn't right. I guess in truth I expected too much from this phone, I wanted it to be blazing fast and it just doesn't feel it.
There isn't a great range of roms either, my M7 had literally dozens of roms to try but I find with the S6, there are like only a handful.

Can't feel phone vibration?

When in vibrate mode, I can't feel any notification !
The phone does vibrate but the vibration is so slight I can't barely even hear it when the phone is close to me on the table.
When the phone is in my pants pocket or on a soft surface, I cant feel a thing at all.
Has anyone experienced this yet?
Thanks.

I can say what your describing is the exact issue I had with my OnePlus 5 and installed EX Kennel to bump the vibration strength but want by much unfortunately.
I have my OnePlus 6 in the OnePlus sandstone case and it cause the vibration much easier to hear sure to a slight restore but not annoying at all. I agree though in my pocket I barely hear it and certainly can't feel it.

Do you mean, it's normal and inherent to OnePlus to have very faint unfeelable vibration?

yeah the vibration on this phone is pretty crappy. They defiantly used cheap parts. One of my cons of this device.

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You can adjust vibration intensity for calls and notifications in the sounds menu

Actually it's not cheap parts, it's small parts. The vibrator seems to be very small (see iFixit) probably to make room for other things (which I approve )

That was the first thing I tried.
Before posting this thread.

Yep I'm in the same boat. The awful weak vibration on this phone really sucks. I hope it can be at least slightly improved in software...

unfortunately history shows it's not possible to mend it. Since OPO they couldn't manage a proper motor on any OP phones as I read. The saga continues. (I had OPO, this was my biggest issue at the time, now same with OP6)

so does everyone just keep the ringtones on?

It's a real shame - you don't notice how important it is until it's gone... I'm still holding out hope for a way to change the pattern - if it went a bit longer for notifications I might notice it but the two weak little buzzes aren't doing much. Any ideas?

i sit on my bed the phone stays besides me...maybe only 3 inch away from me.. notice only 3 inch and still I can't feel it or hear it.. it's not possible to always keep the phone in ring mode.. tried ex kernel to increase..it slightly improved but not that much to be felt... it's a shame..and i think I'll have to change this phone for only this reason..this is a pretty great phone but this little thing makes a world of a difference for me
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it's not quite possible...i had a 5t with same problem.. tried blu spark kernel and it improved to feel at least but with this op6 it's not possible because i tried ex kernel and same sh*t vibration

I've been consistently missing texts due to this. Is there a kernel fix anyone has? I'm thinking of installing one. CleanSlate looks good, but I don't think it does vibration intensity. Darn shame.

Looks like that's what it is.
Maybe we can ask Oneplus support to consider it for some next update?

I had the same issue with my OP5T. Could only feel light vibration and nothing when in pocket. Now the situation is even worse. My phone doesn't vibrate at all in Vibrate mode and I don't find any options to customize it.

Yeah, it sucks. Even coming from an old phone like the 6s Plus, the motor was a huge downgrade.
I was surprised to see that there isn't an option for making your own vibration patterns like iOS does.
Strange because it's usually iOS that abstains cool features.

Maybe some dev can build a magsik module that checks the proximity sensor and if triggered (like the pocket mode), it vibrates way longer, like 70ms.