Anyone tried using NeverWet on their phone yet to make it waterproof?
Scroll to 3:25 and see how they applied it to an iPhone4 to make it waterproof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrjXSsfxMQ&feature=youtu.be
Available for $20 at Home Depot:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/204216476?productId=204216476&storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053
I am not sure if the coating still allows conductivity so the ports will work.
It doesn't look like it conducts across the coating since the phone wasn't fried after they coated it, so that is a positive.
I use wireless for everything with this phone (wireless charging, bluetooth earphones, dropbox, etc.) so it wouldn't necessarily detract me as long as it doesn't affect those signals.
Another thing I am not sure about is how long it lasts (how often would you need to apply it to rely on it to work over time).
I am still trying to figure out why this hasn't been capitalized by any other manufacturer (car companies, electronic companies, clothing companies, anyone product really). There must be a downside besides the frost coating you get if you spray a thick layer on dark surfaces.
If anyone digs out more useful information please post it here!
This is actually pretty sweet!!!! I can think of a million uses for this! Good find OP!
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This stuff has been around for a while, it can be bought by the drum on Amazon, but the price has always been way high. It looks like it is finally coming down in price.
nice, i wouldn't do it but id pay for a company to.
If you spray this stuff on an "Active" does the Universe implode?
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If you spray this stuff on an "Active" does the Universe implode?
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I was thinking the same thing. Let's test it.
But this is pretty cool, but I don't think it would work too well, or as effectively as the active.
mattpayne92 said:
I was thinking the same thing. Let's test it.
But this is pretty cool, but I don't think it would work too well, or as effectively as the active.
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I think if it is applied correctly to the original S4, it could work well. The video showed how to apply it to an iPhone, but I think there might be more to it than what they showed. The question becomes where to apply it and how much to use? Obviously it would just help add to water resistance and wouldn't make it completely waterproof. But for the Active, it might help to close the small gaps that seem to let a little water in (earphone and speaker holes, etc...), but again, the question becomes how much and where. I don't think spraying it on the screen will work out so well.
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I think if it is applied correctly to the original S4, it could work well. The video showed how to apply it to an iPhone, but I think there might be more to it than what they showed. The question becomes where to apply it and how much to use? Obviously it would just help add to water resistance and wouldn't make it completely waterproof. But for the Active, it might help to close the small gaps that seem to let a little water in (earphone and speaker holes, etc...), but again, the question becomes how much and where. I don't think spraying it on the screen will work out so well.
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Right, I was thinking it would be perfect to use on the Active in those spots. Maybe it would allow the removal of the USB cover as well. However, I don't want to be the test dummy so I'll likely keep my phone as is.
Save your self the headache
http://www.liquipel.com
http://youtu.be/u_1-riIi0cI
Thinking about sending my S4 off to get ti done while I use my active...then return the active and pay my 35...
Liqupel doesn't work that great.
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planoman said:
Save your self the headache
http://www.liquipel.com
http://youtu.be/u_1-riIi0cI
Thinking about sending my S4 off to get ti done while I use my active...then return the active and pay my 35...
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I know that has been an option for a while but I think the NeverWet has the same potential if applied correctly. I think the fact that the liquipel people apply it for you helps in the fact that they have experience in knowing how much and where to apply, but at the same time it means you would have to send the phone back to them for touch ups and reapplications...which can be expensive and time consuming.
And regardless of what either one of them claims, I would still just consider it an extra level of water resistance and not water proofing. I would like to see a blind test of several phones coated in each product and how well each product actually works in real world situations.
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I think if it is applied correctly to the original S4, it could work well. The video showed how to apply it to an iPhone, but I think there might be more to it than what they showed. The question becomes where to apply it and how much to use? Obviously it would just help add to water resistance and wouldn't make it completely waterproof. But for the Active, it might help to close the small gaps that seem to let a little water in (earphone and speaker holes, etc...), but again, the question becomes how much and where. I don't think spraying it on the screen will work out so well.
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What they were saying in the video was to apply it to every hole and cut in the phone where water would get in through.
To me it looks like Liquipel is not the exact same thing. NeverWet created a consumer grade super hydrophobic solution. I am sure a mask is probably recommended, but you won't need to apply it in a vacuum to work and not harm your lungs.
Liquipel doesn't apply the coating based on the device. They are like a factory, putting the phone in the chamber, creating a vacuum, releasing the gas (first coating), and then "plasma" (second coating) to bind the gas to your phone. It potentially is better, since it probably is an even thickness of a coat everywhere the gas reaches (including the insides), but I can think it can also be worse since they probably kept the amount of coating to a minimum to not obstruct the screen. If you apply by hand, you would use more or less depending on the location, which sounds more reliable to me.
Galaxy S4 is $59.99 + $10 for priority shipping. If they gave you a guarantee that it will be water resistant or they will reimburse you for the phone, than obviously it would be a better option, but they don't. In fact, they disclaim:
Liquipel applies a preventative coating designed to aid in the event of accidental liquid exposure, and assumes no responsibility for water damaged devices. Liquipel does not recommend your device ever come in contact with liquid.
That's false advertisement. Showing how you put a phone you treated in the water, and than saying we don't recommend you ever do it...
I don't like that they are using celebrities either.
MaXKilleR said:
What they were saying in the video was to apply it to every hole and cut in the phone where water would get in through.
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I agree with most of what you said, but I also think that they don't endorse getting your phone wet, simply because they do not want to be held liable if their product doesn't hold up.
But I do want a waterproof case in the worst way.
AnthomX said:
I agree with most of what you said, but I also think that they don't endorse getting your phone wet, simply because they do not want to be held liable if their product doesn't hold up.
But I do want a waterproof case in the worst way.
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I know that they want to cover their ass, but my issue is with them advertising it as an invisible waterproof case and not what it really is, a "just in case you drop your phone in water this MIGHT save it" solution.
You don't see case manufacturers dropping and throwing phones in their cases to show how durable they are and then tell you that it may not do its job when you drop it so don't do it...
I will probably buy the sprays tomorrow and experiment with an old phone I have laying around to see if the ports on it still work.
The only hardware feature missing for me in the galaxy S4 is being waterproof.
What about Galaxy S4 Active + Never wet...... ? Amazing....
Any one try the new liguidpel 3.0 one part mechanical dip?
S4 Active isn't that water resistant as you think
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...6/25/samsung-galaxy-s4-active-review/2455185/
will the source code to the kernel help root this phone?? its out....
opensource.samsung com reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=SGH-I537
root me teather me do what you will. gimme gimme gimme
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S4 Active isn't that water resistant as you think
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...6/25/samsung-galaxy-s4-active-review/2455185/
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That scares me... I played in the pool for a long time with my active and it worked with no issues. I did swap it out for a new one because the power button was loose. So now im afraid to test the new one out because if it isn't air tight like my other one I don't want to lose it.
I plan on getting this and spraying my S4 Active's internals so that will probably make it ast a lot longer also my windshield in my car and my wife's phone
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That scares me... I played in the pool for a long time with my active and it worked with no issues. I did swap it out for a new one because the power button was loose. So now im afraid to test the new one out because if it isn't air tight like my other one I don't want to lose it.
I plan on getting this and spraying my S4 Active's internals so that will probably make it ast a lot longer also my windshield in my car and my wife's phone
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And I'm sure Sammy will find reasons like: you kept the phone too much or too deep in the water.
It seems like the phone can be wet only in case of accident, not for pool playing.
demlasjr said:
It seems like the phone can be wet only in case of accident, not for pool playing.
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LOL. The active has a camera mode for taking pictures under water.
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With that charging orb, we could actually go wireless and never have to remove something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Waterp...52502584&sr=1-1&keywords=WATERPROOF+SKIN+Siii
ace7196 said:
With that charging orb, we could actually go wireless and never have to remove something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Waterp...52502584&sr=1-1&keywords=WATERPROOF+SKIN+Siii
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That's sick! Makes it ugly but the waterproof-ness is worth it.
ha, that's pretty neat!
so it's like putting a condom on the phone
ctowne said:
That's sick! Makes it ugly but the waterproof-ness is worth it.
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ha, that's pretty neat!
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Emama said:
so it's like putting a condom on the phone
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Does this mean I don't need to get antivirus software?
yeah, you won't get aids on your phone !
Want waterproof? Get liquipel. Waterproof and no case needed. Thankfully liquipel is available in Australia now and I'm totally getting
So looking forward to my new Nexus 4
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RellikZephyr said:
Want waterproof? Get liquipel. Waterproof and no case needed. Thankfully liquipel is available in Australia now and I'm totally getting
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Your advice is WRONG and dangerous, check the 100's of videos on youtube of i-diots who ruined their i-phones for youtube views.
From their website
My device has been treated with Liquipel; can I take it swimming or surfing?
No, the Liquipel treatment is a preventative coating and is meant to protect the internal, vital components of electronics from liquid corrosion in the event of accidental liquid exposure. Just as you would not intentionally throw your device on the ground after purchasing a case, you would not want to intentionally submerge your device in liquid after having Liquipel applied.
OP's link to waterproof skins look like a much better product, but its also not true WATERPROOF, more like Spashproof.
A cheap ZIP plastic bag will work best (the thicker the better)
That is true. I am getting my device liquipel'd, but you're right I'm not going to take it swimming with me. Totally different purpose
Do not DELIBERATELY wet your phone if using products like liquipel
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There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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Makaijin said:
There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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what?
If your talking about airtight doesn't mean vacuumed environment... Air still exists inside the phone, waves can easily transfer from air -> plastic -> air...
Makaijin said:
There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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um...I bought a waterproof case for my Xperia S. The touch screen works perfectly without the need to be dried.
About sound waves, it travels in water and air. Air tight doesn't mean soundless. A vacuum means soundless. Two completely different concept.
And why you want phone call under the water? Most of us who wants water proof case is to take to water sports and maybe take a few videos without damaging the device.
So yes, those cases exist, in the past, now, and in the future.
be careful when you say "never", because there is a possibility
Makaijin said:
There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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umm, ya ..no I guess you don't get out a lot but I work at Best Buy and there is a case for the iphone 4, 4S, and 5 called lifeproof and it is waterproof up to 6 Ft my friend has it and he takes pictures underwater in my pool and they look awesome. Also about sound quality, sound quality is actually improved, I didn't believe it at first but the lifeproof case redirects sound from the bottom of the iphone and turns the whole back of the case into an amplifier, it's rather impressive technology. For plugging up the charger its no problem you just open the port, it says it keeps it's waterproof seal for thousands of open/shuts, and advises that you should open/shut it around 2 times a day and the seal should be fine. Mic works fine. The only downside to this case is the 80$ price and that you can't dock it without an extension everything else works great. And yes he does go swimming with it just not over 6ft deep.
The technology being completely possible, the nexus 4 is going to be one of the most popular phones because of its cheep price, amazing specs, being part of the pure android experience nexus line, which means tons of support from developers. It's going to be one of the most popular devices ever built and so i wouldn't doubt that they make a waterproof case for it.
Not meaning to bash you, next time just make sure to do a 10sec google search of "waterproof phone case" and see how hard they are to make before you rule out the chance of nexus 4 ever getting one/ getting one soon
RellikZephyr said:
That is true. I am getting my device liquipel'd, but you're right I'm not going to take it swimming with me. Totally different purpose
Do not DELIBERATELY wet your phone if using products like liquipel
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So you pay money for something that may or may not work?
ace7196 said:
With that charging orb, we could actually go wireless and never have to remove something like this:
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That iottie case is only a temporary case and is not meant to stay on the phone for long. I've seen it at the store and it's not very durable and wont hold up for long. Why would you want a waterproof case on your phone all the time? Even the waterproof case for the iPhone is very bulky and you wouldnt want to keep that on the phone 24/7. There is no waterproof case like that for the nexus 4 and most likely never will.
Most of the time you can salvage a phone if it just took a quick dip, the phone will power down automatically so just let it sit for a few days to dry. I've heard that dunking the wet phone in 99% iso alcohol to displace the water since the alcohol will dry much faster also works well but never tried it.
I bought today sealabox 3xl for my nexus 4. Somebody have just try it?
For me the best waterproof cover is ipega. I writed to the manufacture some months ago to ask for an nexus 4 version. Plese do the same. Sorry for my English.
http://www.ipega.hk/
Makaijin said:
There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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The Galaxy Active and the Xperia Z are both going to be waterproof, so I think that I will take my chances with those rather than paying 50 bucks for someone to spray paint my phone.
the problem with this waterproof case will be condensation when the cpu heats up after using the phone with gps for example! and if condensation is created in an air tight environment, the electronics of the phone will eventually see water!
That case is probably only good for just a few hours of stand by at a time and if you start recording underwater videos and your cpu starts heating up your gonna get some condensation in the phone!
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the problem with this waterproof case will be condensation when the cpu heats up after using the phone with gps for example! and if condensation is created in an air tight environment, the electronics of the phone will eventually see water!
That case is probably only good for just a few hours of stand by at a time and if you start recording underwater videos and your cpu starts heating up your gonna get some condensation in the phone!
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Jesus dude not everyone is going to go swim in the water with it. More like for protection phrase you drop it in water
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Unless you phone is exuding water vapor it wont condense on to the inside of the case. Conversely your phone exuding heat would warm up the case driving away condensation.
Putting your phone into a case while in a humid environment then moving to a cold one would fog up the inside. Nothing else can really.
R3dRumz i dont mean to be dismissive but so long as your sealing the case in a humid environment the case will have the moisture within. If the phone is closed up in a dry environment its pretty much okay.
Anytime I purchase a new phone, it is the time to put on a new ZAGG. I'm willing to try out other brands, but of course this is the usual in your face brand available at many local retailers.
Best Buy was ready with a complete line from original to smudge proof to high definition. They didn't have the front and back which is pretty common. ZAGG's site never seems to list every combination available either.
Anyways since running one of my Note 2's naked to prove a point, I've gone back to putting something on a new phone shortly after unboxing it. I don't care how many Youtube videos there are about Gorilla Glass this or that. A nice pair of keys or some good ole American currency in the form of coins seems to be a powerful combination against a phone.
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Just my opinion but if you are recording a video of a screen protector installation and you cut out the tough/problem moments (at 4:13, 4:36, and 6:00), it makes the video less helpful. I personally would rather watch a longer video and see how you deal with the tough moments instead of you cutting them out since that makes the installation seem easier than it actually is to put on.
Of course that's just my opinion, trying to give constructive criticism to help with future videos, feel free to throw it in the trash if it doesn't help at all or I'm just talking crazy
There really weren't any issues. I did cut some of the constant squeegee moments out IIRC. Use application fluid liberally and go to town.
Thanks for the feedback though. I'll make a version where I don't remove a second for you to look at.
I'll also be sure to watch your videos for guidance in the future. Just post an example here.
EDIT: 4:13 just pull it up to align it better. Just like starting all over again. 4:16 I let go of it once it was visually aligned. 6:00 probably should have shown more but just used the squeegee a lot. When you use liberal amounts of application fluid, it makes alignment easy. You just have more to squeegee.
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Here's that 46 seconds I cut out....
Enjoy!
Not sure you read the manual but you were suppose to turn the phone off and let it be off like 12 hour for the water and bubble to go away. And also not really good to spray right on the phone as it goes into the holes. Its right in the manual. I just installed the non HD but i think the HD might look even better. SGP is the best to be honest but for the time being i use this until i get a hold of Spigen .
Not sure if you listened to the video, but I talked about that for 30 to 45 seconds.
I keep it on to check for dust trapped in there.
Premium phones aren't too hydrophobic. If you choose to spray directly, pay attention when you in squeegee.
If you want someone's real feedback who has installed them several times with no dust trapped in between layers and no bubbles, watch the video. If you want to read a manual... Read the manual. Any company that did suggest you to spray the device would have a huge liability for doing so. No company in their right mind would even hint at it.
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Not sure if you listened to the video, but I talked about that for 30 to 45 seconds.
I keep it on to check for dust trapped in there.
Premium phones aren't too hydrophobic. If you choose to spray directly, pay attention when you in squeegee.
If you want someone's real feedback who has installed them several times with no dust trapped in between layers and no bubbles, watch the video. If you want to read a manual... Read the manual. Any company that did suggest you to spray the device would have a huge liability for doing so. No company in their right mind would even hint at it.
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They dont recommend it for a good reason! And you spray it right into the speaker even which is not ok. Sure you dont get dust or bubble but is that primary concern? Still when you put something like this some people will take it as its ok to do so and might end up damaging their phone.
And saying in the video if you get away with it is pretty stupid phrasing, what does that mean even? Do you mean its luck so take a gamble with your brand new phone? If you dont this many times than you should know better
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They dont recommend it for a good reason! And you spray it right into the speaker even which is not ok. Sure you dont get dust or bubble but is that primary concern? Still when you put something like this some people will take it as its ok to do so and might end up damaging their phone.
And saying in the video if you get away with it is pretty stupid phrasing, what does that mean even? Do you mean its luck so take a gamble with your brand new phone? If you dont this many times than you should know better
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Spend your life reading manuals. Obviously you didn't need to watch the video, and obviously you didn't originally or you would have heard what I said. I'll continue to give advice based on what I've done in life as long as it dose not put people in harms way. I rather show a worst case scenario vs someone watching and wondering what happens if they accidentally got a lot of liquid on the screen.
I'm no cell phone designer, but I'm willing to bet the speaker grille was designed in a manner to resist water. Actually that the whole assembly was. We have sweaty people using phones, people in downpours using phones, etc. The flagship device has to take this into account or lose to a competitor's phone. Despite all of this, I still took the time to explain that I was deviating from the manual.
I guess I should go rip the supercharger out of my car as well because I just voided the warranty on it by installing it. Car manufacturer doesn't believe I should run boost. I am one of those people who buys a new car and modifies it. Perhaps you fall into the category of those who wait for the warranty to run out before touching it.
Yes, I blocked you from the Youtube channel because you were just voting down my videos. When you commented from another username you did the same thing again. I make these videos to support my family. I have a baby girl that was born on the 24th. You also fall into the category of those who are willing to criticize, but you don't have a valid Youtube channel of your own. If you want to do something productive, make videos and show things from your perspective instead of coming to my channel to bash me.
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Spend your life reading manuals. Obviously you didn't need to watch the video, and obviously you didn't originally or you would have heard what I said. I'll continue to give advice based on what I've done in life as long as it dose not put people in harms way. I rather show a worst case scenario vs someone watching and wondering what happens if they accidentally got a lot of liquid on the screen.
I'm no cell phone designer, but I'm willing to bet the speaker grille was designed in a manner to resist water. Actually that the whole assembly was. We have sweaty people using phones, people in downpours using phones, etc. The flagship device has to take this into account or lose to a competitor's phone. Despite all of this, I still took the time to explain that I was deviating from the manual.
I guess I should go rip the supercharger out of my car as well because I just voided the warranty on it by installing it. Car manufacturer doesn't believe I should run boost. I am one of those people who buys a new car and modifies it. Perhaps you fall into the category of those who wait for the warranty to run out before touching it.
Yes, I blocked you from the Youtube channel because you were just voting down my videos. When you commented from another username you did the same thing again. I make these videos to support my family. I have a baby girl that was born on the 24th. You also fall into the category of those who are willing to criticize, but you don't have a valid Youtube channel of your own. If you want to do something productive, make videos and show things from your perspective instead of coming to my channel to bash me.
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Ok so much text for basically saying you "think" its ok but your not sure. I only pointed out my view and highlighted your mistake. Your comment saying if you can get away with it is just silly to me but that is my opinion cause its just could cause you damage period. Has nothing to do with if your cautious or not.
I actually was searching to see if others used the small sticker on the home key when i bumped into your video and was surprised that
first you did not turn the phone of and second you keep spraying huge amount of water straight into the phone which is never ok. this is totally different from when you hold your phone and talk when your sweaty i hope you do realize that.
And there is a reason why there is a like/dislike on youtube, when you use the service you agree to accept it for what its worth, i was not rude or anything and added my opinion so when you sensor stuff out/block a user your taking it to another level. I actually never dont dislike but this was in my view a bad video (not bad for most part but what i already pointed out) so i made a thumb down. You as a reviewer should learn to accept when people dislike something and learn from it instead of doing censorship, that will hurt you more in the long run if you want a good reputation, take it as a friendly advice.
No i dont have a channel so what? i watch allot of videos and as said i'm usually not criticizing without a good reason. Anyway i'm willing to let it go if you can.
And congrats on your baby :good:
thanks very much. the video was messy but im sure that's how it is in real life anyways. and you did include the 46 seconds you deleted under the video in the comments so idk why everyone is complaining. its right there lol
I state if you can get away with using no fluid go for it.
"Use as little spray as possible."
Isn't that what I said?
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I state if you can get away with using no fluid go for it.
"Use as little spray as possible."
Isn't that what I said?
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We obviously talk in circles lets just drop the discussion and enjoy our S4's. I'm actually going to order a spigen, the ZAG is still not so clear. Its also a bit plasticky so i miss the glass, spigen has a glass protector so i'm considering that. Have you tried those?
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/sa...ctor-glas-tr-slim-premium-tempered-glass.html
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We obviously talk in circles lets just drop the discussion and enjoy our S4's. I'm actually going to order a spigen, the ZAG is still not so clear. Its also a bit plasticky so i miss the glass, spigen has a glass protector so i'm considering that. Have you tried those?
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Fine fine... Sorry.
Anyways, I haven't gotten many Spigen products. When they were a upcoming company, just getting into the spotlight they sent me some cases. I loved the Argo (I believe that's what it's called) for the GS3.
The HD InvisibleSHIELDs definitely still have the orange peel effect, but it it hard to notice, for me at least, when the screen is lit.
Just cause you mentioned it, I might go through some Spigen products and make an order.
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Fine fine... Sorry.
Anyways, I haven't gotten many Spigen products. When they were a upcoming company, just getting into the spotlight they sent me some cases. I loved the Argo (I believe that's what it's called) for the GS3.
The HD InvisibleSHIELDs definitely still have the orange peel effect, but it it hard to notice, for me at least, when the screen is lit.
Just cause you mentioned it, I might go through some Spigen products and make an order.
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cheers, the thing that bothers me with InvisibleSHIELD is the feeling, its not very glossy, when i use swypekey or drag my finger it just dont feel as it should,its a bit "sticky" feeling to it. Also it gets sticky on the edges after some time and pulls durt to itself. Its still new so no issue but i know my iphone use to gather lot of dirt after being in my pocket on the edges. Never had that problem with other brands. But all and all Spigen has some of the best i seen (will check the Argo too). Hori (from Japan) is actually best and is close to bubble free but they dont make for all gadgets. I got Hori for my PS Vita and i cant even see the layer. Its truly amazing.
Looking forward to some Spigen review
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cheers, the thing that bothers me with InvisibleSHIELD is the feeling, its not very glossy, when i use swypekey or drag my finger it just dont feel as it should,its a bit "sticky" feeling to it. Also it gets sticky on the edges after some time and pulls durt to itself. Its still new so no issue but i know my iphone use to gather lot of dirt after being in my pocket on the edges. Never had that problem with other brands. But all and all Spigen has some of the best i seen (will check the Argo too). Hori (from Japan) is actually best and is close to bubble free but they dont make for all gadgets. I got Hori for my PS Vita and i cant even see the layer. Its truly amazing.
Looking forward to some Spigen review
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Cool.. I need to look up all this other stuff, but I'm at work right now... SHHHHH
Going to make a blog style site with a forum subsection on my main forum for case/screen protector reviews. I'm rusty because I have a full time job again. For a year all I did was work on my own forum and make videos.
Sounds like fun
But nice with full time job so you get income every month. Looking forward to new reviews
I like how everyone just got along that fast
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Keys and coins will not scratch the screen, it's more likely particles of sand in the air found themselves in your pocket or something, (you can find countless articles around here)
Anyways, I have a Zagg on my Xperia Arc and after 1 year of use it has multiple stretch marks (around 20 of them) which is slightly annoying and the oleophobic coating seems to have disappeared :< (that maybe my fault however) and like a comment from before the feel of Zagg is not for me :/ it doesn't have a slick feel to it.
One tip however is to apply screen protectors in your bathroom (as crazy as it sounds) as it the room with the least likely to have dust, especially after a shower/bath
great video !
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Keys and coins will not scratch the screen, it's more likely particles of sand in the air found themselves in your pocket or something, (you can find countless articles around here)
Anyways, I have a Zagg on my Xperia Arc and after 1 year of use it has multiple stretch marks (around 20 of them) which is slightly annoying and the oleophobic coating seems to have disappeared :< (that maybe my fault however) and like a comment from before the feel of Zagg is not for me :/ it doesn't have a slick feel to it.
One tip however is to apply screen protectors in your bathroom (as crazy as it sounds) as it the room with the least likely to have dust, especially after a shower/bath
great video !
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Actually that is something i seen before and it's a good advice to do it in the bathroom after a shower, all the humidity will kill the dust
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Right. I was about to bust out the popcorn. XD
The other day I was in the bathroom and forgot that I put my phone on the towel... Got a tiny dent on the corner(Plastic bezel sucks) even though once the cover for it comes in by the 14 of this month is driving me crazy just to see a scratch/dent on it.
Didn't even follow the title. You didn't "show us" anything.
Dont have a cam right now to take a pic. The phone fell and hit the floor with the right bottom corner. Honestly seems more like a chip mark than a dent or a scratch.
People who don't put a case on an expensive device are like guys who don't use condoms with a random girl...I just don't get it...
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People who don't put a case on an expensive device are like guys who don't use condoms with a random girl...I just don't get it...
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I actually order a case but still hasn't arrive.
First thing I get is a case. Even if I have to buy from best buy and pay s premium price. Protection is first priority. After that I'll hit Amazon and get s case I like. I take no chances because you can't undo a drop.
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People who don't put a case on an expensive device are like guys who don't use condoms with a random girl...I just don't get it...
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Can't get a STD or phone pregnant.
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People who don't put a case on an expensive device are like guys who don't use condoms with a random girl...I just don't get it...
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For most people you're right about the phone - and the random girl.
Yet no one puts cases on their fine crystal Scotch or Cognac glasses - they show them for the fine stemware beauty and art they are designed to be and treat them with care. And no one expects a random girl to be virgin clean ... especially a random that doesn't care if you're goin' in raw-dog.
I've always been disease free my whole life (I'm oooold) because I've chosen wisely .... and I've NEVER used a case on any of my Cell Phones, going all the way back to my first phone in 1992, because I treat them like the fragile glass and electronic pieces of artistic equipment they are.
As much as I agree with the analogy of cases for some people .... I certainly understand why most don't use a case.
Where we probably agree the most is when someone doesn't use a case (or condom) and then complains about how bad their lack of carefulness became a bad situation and blames everything/everyone but themselves.
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For most people you're right about the phone - and the random girl.
Yet no one puts cases on their fine crystal Scotch or Cognac glasses - they show them for the fine stemware beauty and art they are designed to be and treat them with care. And no one expects a random girl to be virgin clean ... especially a random that doesn't care if you're goin' in raw-dog.
I've always been disease free my whole life (I'm oooold) because I've chosen wisely .... and I've NEVER used a case on any of my Cell Phones, going all the way back to my first phone in 1992, because I treat them like the fragile glass and electronic pieces of artistic equipment they are.
As much as I agree with the analogy of cases for some people .... I certainly understand why most don't use a case.
Where we probably agree the most is when someone doesn't use a case (or condom) and then complains about how bad their lack of carefulness became a bad situation and blames everything/everyone but themselves.
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That's why I use a clear case on my v20 with a built in metal kickstand. It shows off the phone but protects it.
The great news is that if you damage the top or bottom of your phone you can replace it by removing the 4 screws on those portions and buying a new chin or forehead. I swapped the bottom chin for a new one when my old one got scratched. It was quick and painless process.
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The great news is that if you damage the top or bottom of your phone you can replace it by removing the 4 screws on those portions and buying a new chin or forehead. I swapped the bottom chin for a new one when my old one got scratched. It was quick and painless process.
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link to the parts please, I need a 4-head
haha I ended up with getting titan bc im impatient, but i just realized I could always replace the 3 parts with silver and practically have the silver phone.
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Any pictures ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNgSDmkn96c
Every time I see this video I realize how good investment I did considering how easy is to work with.
@rbiter said:
Can't get a STD or phone pregnant.
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Do you know what an analogy is? Lol
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Do you know what an analogy is? Lol
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Do you know what a joke is?
My phone is about 14 days old. Already have a crack along the antenna line. love the phone otherwise and just want to know if anyone else has the issue. I always have it in a case.
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My phone is about 14 days old. Already have a crack along the antenna line. love the phone otherwise and just want to know if anyone else has the issue. I always have it in a case.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=yyqNR6W_MUQ
Don't know what kind of case you have. I bought the tech 21 it's really rigid. I won't be sitting on this phone lol. In the video he use an awful lot of force I'd never put that kind of force on my phone.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=yyqNR6W_MUQ
Don't know what kind of case you have. I bought the tech 21 it's really rigid. I won't be sitting on this phone lol. In the video he use an awful lot of force I'd never put that kind of force on my phone.
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I have a case that is more on the soft side but I haven't really done much to my phone besides put it in my pocket.
Wow that is so sad! I saw Jerry rigs strength test and it cracks during the bend test at 4 points where the antenna is. Oh god this phone is a nightmare then
Well.. send it it since you still have warranty?
Let's see how widespread an "issue" this is really going to be. I bet it won't be at all. [emoji1]
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I have a case that is more on the soft side but I haven't really done much to my phone besides put it in my pocket.
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Was it your back pocket?
I smell a troll that saw a youtube video! LOL
I called support yesterday after reading the reports. Tier 1 rep went to Tier 2 to find out. He claimed that this would be covered by warranty barring other evidence of accidental damage - ie; fired from a cannon directly into a woodchipper. I guess I can't play hacky sack with the thing.
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Wow that is so sad! I saw Jerry rigs strength test and it cracks during the bend test at 4 points where the antenna is. Oh god this phone is a nightmare then
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Why exactly does that make this phone a nightmare? The pressure they put on this phone in the test is WAY more than anyone would typically put on it. Put it in your back pocket and sit down, probably, but that would likely be any phone. I've had a ton of different phones, and never, ever had one bend. Even my Blackberry pearl, EVO, or nexus s. Those were way before phones were very sturdy. I seriously doubt most folks will bend this phone.
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Why exactly does that make this phone a nightmare? The pressure they put on this phone in the test is WAY more than anyone would typically put on it. Put it in your back pocket and sit down, probably, but that would likely be any phone. I've had a ton of different phones, and never, ever had one bend. Even my Blackberry pearl, EVO, or nexus s. Those were way before phones were very sturdy. I seriously doubt most folks will bend this phone.
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he forgot this wasn't a reddit post.
No cracks BUT I have official Google case for the xl (grey fabric) and just from taking it in/out of case some of the paint near the seam is coming off. WTF Google!!?? All black variant so I'm pretty pissed. Love the case but how the hell!? It's been in a case since minute 1 and never spent a second naked in my pocket or otherwise.
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No cracks BUT I have official Google case for the xl (grey fabric) and just from taking it in/out of case some of the paint near the seam is coming off. WTF Google!!?? All black variant so I'm pretty pissed. Love the case but how the hell!? It's been in a case since minute 1 and never spent a second naked in my pocket or otherwise.
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Seems like it's a big F for the glossy finish for the black variant. You could try to warranty it out and see what happens.
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No cracks BUT I have official Google case for the xl (grey fabric) and just from taking it in/out of case some of the paint near the seam is coming off. WTF Google!!?? All black variant so I'm pretty pissed. Love the case but how the hell!? It's been in a case since minute 1 and never spent a second naked in my pocket or otherwise.
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So as soon as you put it in the case this happened? Well it had to have since it was never outside a case for even a minute. But then you are taking it in and out of the case therefore it's been out for some time. I'm slightly confused as to if it's been out of a case or not. Nonetheless, I had a fabric case on my P3a and that thing is nearly impossible to get off. I did take it off once before the final time and it took me quite some time to get the phone out without damaging it. I'm not sure if the 4xl is the same but you definitely should get a replacement, put it in the case and leave it there.
I agree. I have the Pixel fabric case and find it impossible to take off. I find a good way is to take off the left side completely first. Don't try to take off from the top or bottom.
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So as soon as you put it in the case this happened? Well it had to have since it was never outside a case for even a minute. But then you are taking it in and out of the case therefore it's been out for some time. I'm slightly confused as to if it's been out of a case or not. Nonetheless, I had a fabric case on my P3a and that thing is nearly impossible to get off. I did take it off once before the final time and it took me quite some time to get the phone out without damaging it. I'm not sure if the 4xl is the same but you definitely should get a replacement, put it in the case and leave it there.
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Sure I take it out but it's never touched a surface and never been in my pocket without a case. Primarily using new Pixel 4XL case from Google. It's pretty upsetting.
Probably the taking in and out of the case that's doing it. The stock Google cases fit very tightly, something that holds true with the two aftermarket cases I've also purchased. None of them were easy to get the phone in and out of and were/are tighter than I expect from a case. I mean so far the thing I've done with my phone that is most likely to break a phone is putting it in the cases I've owned.
On the bendy thing I don't buy it at all; it's not just a significant force applied but also done so in a very particular way on the very tip of the ends with a fulcrum in the middle. Try and imagine how you will apply a similar loading to the frame in actual use and it isn't easy to come up with a scenario. Not saying they wont bend or cant be broken but I am saying that I would be very skeptical of anyone claiming they encountered this damage in normal use.
One last thought here is that I wonder or question where the bar is, how strong should the phone be? Obviously it should be able to stand up to the rigors of the day to day but are we starting to expect too much? I'm actually asking, not sure if I can define a realistic expectation for a phones strength. I do feel however that some people are asking too much from what with current technology is inherently going to be a somewhat fragile piece of electronic equipment.
One question did they ever have a bend test for flip phones? Short answer no! Why they would snap in half. I agree I think we are expecting these phones to be tanks.
Here is a better question. Who puts a 1,000 dollar device in their back pocket like it's a .25 cent pack of gum? ?
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Here is a better question. Who puts a 1,000 dollar device in their back pocket like it's a .25 cent pack of gum? ?
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The real question is where are you finding packs of gum for 25ยข?
Heyy guys i wanted to know if you're using any screen guards on the device
Recently i got one and it was the worst screen guard I've ever used, everything seemed blurry and dull for no reason
Sadly I had removed the plastic cover that comes by default for the device and it's not in the best state rn and i had to remove the screen guard too since it made looking at smalll text almost impossible
I really want my screen to be crisp and vibrant
i would greatly appreciate if someone could drop an Amazon link to buy a good screen guard for the device, I'm currently with no protection on the device so i urgently need to get one
edit: gonna attach the one i got, please don't buy this one
I use Gorilla IQ Sheild, it's an easy wet apply, self healing, inexpensive and lasts about 6 months... if it's available for your model.
The case is the primary display protection; it should have slightly raised guards around the display to help to protect it from face plants on level surfaces.
blackhawk said:
I use Gorilla IQ Sheild, it's an easy wet apply, self healing, inexpensive and lasts about 6 months... if it's available for your model.
The case is the primary display protection; it should have slightly raised guards around the display to help to protect it from face plants on level surfaces.
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Thanks I'll check, sadly there's not a variety of choices available as of yet since the device is still kind of new
also i mainly get a screen cover for fingerprint/scratch protections i probably drop my phone once or twice in its entire life span
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Thanks I'll check, sadly there's not a variety of choices available as of yet since the device is still kind of new
also i mainly get a screen cover for fingerprint/scratch protections i probably drop my phone once or twice in its entire life span
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Yeah, availability can be a problem. Generally the wet apply hydrogel screen protectors are the easiest to apply.
A good case is highly recommended to prevent high G loading from causing internal damage when dropped and the potential data loss from it.
Murphy's law...
Since we are on the topic of cases, he warned that if you go with an armor cover especially the one with a ring on it will increase the phone's weight. Secondly if you go with the xundd case you should first get a back poly so dust will not stick to and ruin the beautiful back glass because on the xundd I found dust gathering between it and the device within minutes of putting it on.
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Since we are on the topic of cases, he warned that if you go with an armor cover especially the one with a ring on it will increase the phone's weight. Secondly if you go with the xundd case you should first get a back poly so dust will not stick to and ruin the beautiful back glass because on the xundd I found dust gathering between it and the device within minutes of putting it on.
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Yeah grit can mar the phone if it gets in the case. The Zizo Bolt series in my favorite but they make no cases for these phones unfortunately.
Case selection for this phone is limited
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Yeah grit can mar the phone if it gets in the case. The Zizo Bolt series in my favorite but they make no cases for these phones unfortunately.
Case selection for this phone is limited
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It did just come out.
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Yeah, availability can be a problem. Generally the wet apply hydrogel screen protectors are the easiest to apply.
A good case is highly recommended to prevent high G loading from causing internal damage when dropped and the potential data loss from it.
Murphy's law...
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Yeah I got a strong case which is also half transparent so it's great just that it made the device more heavy
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It did just come out.
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Zizo hasn't supported this line in the past I don't think. I use them on my N10+'s and they do well.
Samsung's such a mess now I won't even touch their newer phones though.
So I keep an eye on what's going on, might have to play the field in 2-3 years... if Samsung keeps pushing junk iPhone like flagships
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Zizo hasn't supported this line in the past I don't think. I use them on my N10+'s and they do well.
Samsung's such a mess now I won't even touch their newer phones though.
So I keep an eye on what's going on, might have to play the field in 2-3 years... if Samsung keeps pushing junk iPhone like flagships
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yep sadly zizo most likely won't support this series of devices, also it feels like Samsung is just straight up copying iOS at this point, they are trying to kill 3rd party development and the amount of actually new features we are getting is high but they are mostly useless features which not a lot of people will use
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Yeap. A litany of compounded fails since the Note 10+. No expandable memory and almost everything new tacked is power hungry.
Even today the N10+ is sublime in form factor, functionality and reliability. Sadly Samsung started losing it after that. Idiots.
Hopefully other manufacturers will pickup the lost Samsung customers with actual innovation, quality and needed features.
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Yeap. A litany of compounded fails since the Note 10+. No expandable memory and almost everything new tacked is power hungry.
Even today the N10+ is sublime in form factor, functionality and reliability. Sadly Samsung started losing it after that. Idiots.
Hopefully other manufacturers will pickup the lost Samsung customers with actual innovation, quality and needed features.
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Hopefully yeah, Android device manufacturers are evolving just backwards
like honestly the stupid stuff like "we stopped including chargers cuz environment"
last time I checked even if u stop including a charger in box people gonna get one somehow, that's another plastic box, don't see how that's environment friendly.
Do you remember the days when unboxing a phone was a mystery like what would we get inside the box except the phone, screen protector, hard back cover, earphones, stickers etc
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Hopefully yeah, Android device manufacturers are evolving just backwards
like honestly the stupid stuff like "we stopped including chargers cuz environment"
last time I checked even if u stop including a charger in box people gonna get one somehow, that's another plastic box, don't see how that's environment friendly.
Do you remember the days when unboxing a phone was a mystery like what would we get inside the box except the phone, screen protector, hard back cover, earphones, stickers etc
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Anything to suck another dime out of the customer on a $1+G phone...
I got a new N10+ N975U1 back around October, it came with earphones, a 25w brick/cable and lots of hours of trouble free use in store.
That's when Samsung made quality Notes... now they don't even know their own name.
You know what Mohammed Ali did when Sonny had memory problems...
This is why I like xiaomi hardware. At least on their mid range stuff they still make proper usable phones with a headphone jack and expandable storage.