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I bought an OEM extended battery and had been using it exclusively for the last 3 months. This last week when flashing between a few new roms, AOSP and GB, I started having increasingly frequent shutdowns. eventually it got to the point I was pretty much positive it was bricked. As a last attempt I pulled the SD and battery, then replaced the battery with the one my phone came with. Sure enough I was back in business. has been 12 hours and no more forced shutdowns. Interestingly enough my extended battery will cause force shutdowns every time I put it back in my phone now.
Yes my phone use to do that. When I had the OG Droid. It was the battery I switched battery's I went for the extended battery I got. And but a stock one in and it worked fine.
Just but the HTC 2750 mah correct me if I'm wrong lol I forgot the size lol
Sounds like a faulty batt, its probly fluctuating its voltages or sending power spikes and causing your phone to shut off.
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People use the term "brick" too loosely.
Trust me, when your phone bricks you'll know it.
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CanesDrew said:
People use the term "brick" too loosely.
Trust me, when your phone bricks you'll know it.
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Yeah... no doubt.
sonami said:
Sounds like a faulty batt, its probly fluctuating its voltages or sending power spikes and causing your phone to shut off.
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I'm seconding this. Watch the voltage levels. See what they read at.
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Sounds like a faulty batt, its probly fluctuating its voltages or sending power spikes and causing your phone to shut off.
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I'll agree it could easily be a bad battery, but for the record, looking at it's voltage probably isn't going to tell you much. If you were to look at voltage characteristics for a known-working battery you'd see some pretty wild spikes that might alarm you. If you're looking at this on a suspect battery and you've never looked at it before, you're going to assume that's the cause. Li-on batteries don't spike voltages in any meaningful way. They are actually VERY non-volatile regarding output. What you might have is a bad cell in the battery. The best way to diagnose this is to monitor it's charge characteristics and temperature. A bad cell will create much greater resistance inside the battery, creating heat during charging, and creating situations where load drive output voltages unexpectedly below 3 volts, at which point your device is very definitely going to try to shut off.
Dude just buy the HTC extended battery I have it and its worth the money!
CanesDrew said:
People use the term "brick" too loosely.
Trust me, when your phone bricks you'll know it.
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This is so very true...
CanesDrew said:
People use the term "brick" too loosely.
Trust me, when your phone bricks you'll know it.
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i was going to say the same thing. a faulty battery does not equal a bricked phone.
MONKY_1 said:
Dude just buy the HTC extended battery I have it and its worth the money!
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Dude, it is an HTC extended battery,
yes bad battery is not brick phone, but when your phone starts rebooting in recovery, brick comes to mind pretty fast.
I just posted my findings to see if anyone had similar things happen to them, who knows how many people also assumed "brick" w/o trying a different battery and what not.
Hello xda,
Before yelling at me for posting something thats already posted I haven't seen any posts that were recently
I had an Atrix 4G when the digitizer went out I got an Atrix 2 replacement (How lucky was that) well I thought I was lucky until now. I owned my Atrix 2 for 2 months and last night I was playing a game I forget the name. I remember my phone being charged at 60% then I played for about an hour and half and all of a sudden my phone froze completely, no life at all just a lighted up screen with the game being frozen. So what I thought to do is do a battery pull. When I tried to boot it back up there is no life at all but a white light.
I read every where about these white lights ranging from your phone is toast to your battery is so low on a charge that it cant boot up the dual core screen.
Now I've tried everything so far right now I have a spliced up USB port rigged up to my battery charging from my PC. I checked the volts using a multimeter and the battery at first was 0.160 volt now it's up to 0.300 volt.
Now I am not good with volts and all but can someone tell me to keep charging til its at 3.8v (I think thats the batterys capacity) or what?
And I also let it charge all night with the light on to find it done nothing.
When the phones with no battery charging the multimeter voltage says 2.5v.
Lastly, I got a battery otw incase this one isnt good which will be here Tuesday-Wednesday.
Thanks and please come with positive news if you can =D
Mike
Honestly man, it sounds like you're on the right track, and yes to the best of my knowledge, the white light has to do with low battery.
Can you not just charge it while it's off? What ROM are you on?
You can also try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28384402
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Nobody is going to yell at you. You have a legitimate question. I don't have a answer for your problem because this has never happened to me. After you find a fix i ask that you post whatever you did to fix this for future reference for others and myself. If you would please.
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It seems you have completely drained your battery, this thing has happened to me once. What you can do is get a battery only charger from ebay and charge your battery and you'll be ready to go. This has worked for me and hopefully will work for you as well.
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Hello xda,
Before yelling at me for posting something thats already posted I haven't seen any posts that were recently
I had an Atrix 4G when the digitizer went out I got an Atrix 2 replacement (How lucky was that) well I thought I was lucky until now. I owned my Atrix 2 for 2 months and last night I was playing a game I forget the name. I remember my phone being charged at 60% then I played for about an hour and half and all of a sudden my phone froze completely, no life at all just a lighted up screen with the game being frozen. So what I thought to do is do a battery pull. When I tried to boot it back up there is no life at all but a white light.
I read every where about these white lights ranging from your phone is toast to your battery is so low on a charge that it cant boot up the dual core screen.
Now I've tried everything so far right now I have a spliced up USB port rigged up to my battery charging from my PC. I checked the volts using a multimeter and the battery at first was 0.160 volt now it's up to 0.300 volt.
Now I am not good with volts and all but can someone tell me to keep charging til its at 3.8v (I think thats the batterys capacity) or what?
And I also let it charge all night with the light on to find it done nothing.
When the phones with no battery charging the multimeter voltage says 2.5v.
Lastly, I got a battery otw incase this one isnt good which will be here Tuesday-Wednesday.
Thanks and please come with positive news if you can =D
Mike
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Use a wall charger, if moto doesnt work try Samsung. Worked for me.
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Fall of Enosis said:
Can you not just charge it while it's off? What ROM are you on?
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No rom phones completely stock. I actually liked blur but I hated it on the Atrix 4g
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After you find a fix i ask that you post whatever you did to fix this for future reference for others and myself. If you would please.
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Ofcourse I been with xda for years my email got hacked and I lost the PW to my old account so I made a new one.
prasannapmv said:
It seems you have completely drained your battery, this thing has happened to me once. What you can do is get a battery only charger from ebay and charge your battery and you'll be ready to go. This has worked for me and hopefully will work for you as well.
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Good idea, I probably will invest into one because after reading I took notice this must happen alot to people and if I get this new battery then I'd have 2 completely dead batteries. Not good at all lol
I am going to let the phone charge on a wall socket for the night. Hopefully it comes back to life.
I wasn't expecting so many replies in such a short amount of time so thanks to all of you!
I went to go watch a movie tonight and we were early and I saw an AT&T store so I went inside and borrowed their battery from the Atrix on display and it booted right up.
So this means either 2 things my battery is fried or just completely dead. I tried everything I could to get it to work from splicing wires to charging all night.
I suggest for people that have this problem to either get a wall charger as posted above by prasannapmv or get a new battery.
You can also go to an AT&T store and borrow their battery, all of this is better then paying a $50 fee for your insurance or paying $300 for a new phone.
I hope this thread has helped other people.
Mike
MaTrixJ said:
I went to go watch a movie tonight and we were early and I saw an AT&T store so I went inside and borrowed their battery from the Atrix on display and it booted right up.
So this means either 2 things my battery is fried or just completely dead. I tried everything I could to get it to work from splicing wires to charging all night.
I suggest for people that have this problem to either get a wall charger as posted above by prasannapmv or get a new battery.
You can also go to an AT&T store and borrow their battery, all of this is better then paying a $50 fee for your insurance or paying $300 for a new phone.
I hope this thread has helped other people.
Mike
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Thank your AT&T store again. I have two in my town, neither one of them would do that.
Nothing says fine customer service like AT&T.
Hello guys I'm I little worried. Here's the thing, I tried for some days figuring out how to root,unlock bootloader, super CID, etc.. it was with good battery life, but after I did all that, I installed the viperxl (i used it with my older HOXL) and everything ran good. What I have noticed is that my battery drain is so, I mean soooo bad..!
I tried a full wipe but I think it's still the same. My phone its brand new so there is no problem with older owners. I haven't changed the radio (maybe could be that?) I have lost more battery on standby than when using the phone and that didn't happened with my older HOXL
So could be that I messed my battery when I charged the phone with the nexus 7 charger??
Or what could be the problem?? Any suggestions will be good, thanks....
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Is the N7 charger more amps than the One X charger? Some folks on here have said that the device will only pull the amps it needs, others have contradicted this. I don't know enough about the topic to comment either way. I use a Motorola charger on my One X every day, since it has a longer cord than the HTC charger and it happens to work better where I have it located on my desk.
I can honestly say I've used my nexus 7 charger a few times with no problems
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Its a mental thing. I use my nexus 7 charger at home and my htc one at work and a high output Motorola in the car. My battery life has always been superb. Running latest viper with beastmode evita...
From what I know about charger outputs, it doesnt matter, it depends on the device. It can only pull in its max regardless of the charger. Higher the output in a charger should be better so your phone can pull in its max
There's also other factor that contributes to horrible battery life. Rogue apps, horrible networks that switches back and forth between lte and hspa+ and so on...
The last thing could just be a bad battery. Not common but I'm pretty sure it happens
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Is the N7 charger more amps than the One X charger? Some folks on here have said that the device will only pull the amps it needs, others have contradicted this. I don't know enough about the topic to comment either way. I use a Motorola charger on my One X every day, since it has a longer cord than the HTC charger and it happens to work better where I have it located on my desk.
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yep the specifications of amps is the current that the charger can handle, as long as the charger of the n7 can handle the same or more current than the one xl charger it should be ok, many chargers are 1A.
For the OP , i think you should definitively try with another rom, maybe stock to make sure that the problem is not your battery?
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Is the N7 charger more amps than the One X charger? Some folks on here have said that the device will only pull the amps it needs, others have contradicted this. I don't know enough about the topic to comment either way. I use a Motorola charger on my One X every day, since it has a longer cord than the HTC charger and it happens to work better where I have it located on my desk.
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On the one x charger says output: 1A, and in the N7 charger says output: 2A, but I only charged it like 2-3 times I guess, so I don't know why I have that poor battery life,.Maybe hardware problem? Or should I change my radio??
Also how can I know if its a hardware problem??
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are you still running viperXL? maybe there are some settings that are pulling your battery life... look in viperHub and viperTweaks
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On the one x charger says output: 1A, and in the N7 charger says output: 2A, but I only charged it like 2-3 times I guess, so I don't know why I have that poor battery life,.Maybe hardware problem? Or should I change my radio??
Also how can I know if its a hardware problem??
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Your device isn't going to take in 2A. It's only going to take in what it can. I'm not saying that by using a different charger is not going to harm your device, it's just highly unlikely it will. They only way is to flash back to stock and see if that makes a different.
Also, you mention you had another 1x, is your current one a refurb or replacement? That may have something to do with it as well
The Rom is awesome but there are times when it doesn't work for very small numbers of devices...you're just prob unlucky.
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Your device isn't going to take in 2A. It's only going to take in what it can. I'm not saying that by using a different charger is not going to harm your device, it's just highly unlikely it will. They only way is to flash back to stock and see if that makes a different.
Also, you mention you had another 1x, is your current one a refurb or replacement? That may have something to do with it as well
The Rom is awesome but there are times when it doesn't work for very small numbers of devices...you're just prob unlucky.
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It's not a replacement, I soldy older one to a friend and bought this new one, with WiFi I have noticed that standby and normal usage I have a good battery life, the problem is when I'm on 3g/H, maybe could the radio? Because when I'm on data it drains really really fast, like 3-6% per hour on standby...
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renehd2 said:
It's not a replacement, I soldy older one to a friend and bought this new one, with WiFi I have noticed that standby and normal usage I have a good battery life, the problem is when I'm on 3g/H, maybe could the radio? Because when I'm on data it drains really really fast, like 3-6% per hour on standby...
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It might be your radio switching back and forth that's draining your battery.
I have 2 jobs, my first one has lte coverage but not so great in the building so it's always switching from LTE to 4g which I notice drains my battery. My 2nd job at night has great coverage in and out the warehouse. I get full bars of LTE there and my battery would drain very slowly.
In the beginning, I was worried as well because my battery drain seem like a lot so I thought something was wrong but then I checked the battery at my second job and it was great so I figured it was just the network and location.
Overall, especially compared to all the androids I ever used, the one x battery is pretty damn impressive especially for an LTE device.
I came from Verizon using the droid razr and galaxy nexus which couldn't make it past 4 hours on lte with light usage
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HYE_TECH said:
It might be your radio switching back and forth that's draining your battery.
I have 2 jobs, my first one has lte coverage but not so great in the building so it's always switching from LTE to 4g which I notice drains my battery. My 2nd job at night has great coverage in and out the warehouse. I get full bars of LTE there and my battery would drain very slowly.
In the beginning, I was worried as well because my battery drain seem like a lot so I thought something was wrong but then I checked the battery at my second job and it was great so I figured it was just the network and location.
Overall, especially compared to all the androids I ever used, the one x battery is pretty damn impressive especially for an LTE device.
I came from Verizon using the droid razr and galaxy nexus which couldn't make it past 4 hours on lte with light usage
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In from Mexico, so I don't have LTE here, but what I have noticed is that its always on H, with full bars, that's what worry me, yesterday I was on WiFi since I was in my house and the battery was very good, so probably is the radio,I will check with data today to be sure of Its the radio or the battery
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I've experienced crapp battery life after using my HP Touchpad charger.
Also, my 2nd HOX had horrible battery life out of the box. After fully draining > charging twice my screen on time went from 2.5 hours to 4+ hours with the exact same settings and usage.
Edit: while we're talking batteries... I heard a tech from.the ATT Device Service Center tell two people not to charge their phones overnight because leaving it on the charger when it's full is bad for the battery. Those guys are so smart! They must get their info from Yahoo Answers.
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I've experienced crapp battery life after using my HP Touchpad charger.
Also, my 2nd HOX had horrible battery life out of the box. After fully draining > charging twice my screen on time went from 2.5 hours to 4+ hours with the exact same settings and usage.
Edit: while we're talking batteries... I heard a tech from.the ATT Device Service Center tell two people not to charge their phones overnight because leaving it on the charger when it's full is bad for the battery. Those guys are so smart! They must get their info from Yahoo Answers.
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Maybe I have to do that full discharge and charge cycle, today I unplugged it at 9:25am and it's 12:40am and I still have 28% with 3hrs onscreen time. I'm happy hope that keeps going that way
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renehd2 said:
Maybe I have to do that full discharge and charge cycle
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The battery meter calibration gets wiped whenever you flash a custom ROM. You should do at least 2-3 power cycles before making any judgements on battery. Charge to full, but only drain to 10-20%. Draining to shutoff doesn't make it any more accurate, but has the added risk that once in a while the safety circuit will not engage properly, and you will be stuck with a battery that will not accept a charge.
Also, on any ROM but stock AT&T, you can toggle LTE off. Since you don't have LTE in your area, toggle it off (if you haven't already) in Settings>Mobile network settings>network mode.
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Your device isn't going to take in 2A. It's only going to take in what it can. I'm not saying that by using a different charger is not going to harm your device, it's just highly unlikely it will. They only way is to flash back to stock and see if that makes a different.
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That's the explanation I've read previously.
But if so, why did HTC used a different charger plug for the HTC Flyer tablet than all their phones? The charge port is an interesting one, in that its bigger than a MicroUSB port, but will still accept a MicroUSB charge or sync cable (the plug only takes up the bottom "half" of the port when plugged in). The pins needed for data sync are the same, and in fact you can actually plug any MicroUSB sync cable or charger into the Flyer. But you can't plug the Flyer's charger (1.62 Amp) to any HTC phone, only the Flyer (and I assume the Jetstream tablet).
Many have said that this is so people would not plug the Flyer charger to a phone, and damage the phone from the higher amps.
Seems like the difference in amps is the only reason HTC used a different charge port for the Flyer.
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The battery meter calibration gets wiped whenever you flash a custom ROM. You should do at least 2-3 power cycles before making any judgements on battery. Charge to full, but only drain to 10-20%. Draining to shutoff doesn't make it any more accurate, but has the added risk that once in a while the safety circuit will not engage properly, and you will be stuck with a battery that will not accept a charge.
Also, on any ROM but stock AT&T, you can toggle LTE off. Since you don't have LTE in your area, toggle it off (if you haven't already) in Settings>Mobile network settings>network mode.
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In my experience, an uncalibrated battery can go from 8% battery to 0% in a matter of minutes. The only way that I've corrected this is with a full discharge.
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In my experience, an uncalibrated battery can go from 8% battery to 0% in a matter of minutes. The only way that I've corrected this is with a full discharge.
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You're just calibrating the meter, not the battery. The notion of calibrating the battery is left over from 80s technology NiCad batteries.
Under the best of circumstances, the battery meter is nowhere near accurate enough to expect readings less than 8% to be accurate. If you've experienced some more "accurate" reading at this granularity, it may just be placebo or pure chance. Even if true, I'd rather have a bit of inaccuracy in the low end, rather than play with the probability of a battery that won't take a charge.
In any case, you shouldn't be running your battery down that low. We all do it once in a while, but it shouldn't be habit.
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In my experience, an uncalibrated battery can go from 8% battery to 0% in a matter of minutes. The only way that I've corrected this is with a full discharge.
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You would be wrong, the battery meter is recalibrated on each boot.
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You would be wrong, the battery meter is recalibrated on each boot.
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The battery usage data is wiped with each boot or charge (same as wiping battery stats). But I don't think that is the same as the calibration data.
renehd2 said:
Hello guys I'm I little worried. Here's the thing, I tried for some days figuring out how to root,unlock bootloader, super CID, etc.. it was with good battery life, but after I did all that, I installed the viperxl (i used it with my older HOXL) and everything ran good. What I have noticed is that my battery drain is so, I mean soooo bad..!
I tried a full wipe but I think it's still the same. My phone its brand new so there is no problem with older owners. I haven't changed the radio (maybe could be that?) I have lost more battery on standby than when using the phone and that didn't happened with my older HOXL
So could be that I messed my battery when I charged the phone with the nexus 7 charger??
Or what could be the problem?? Any suggestions will be good, thanks....
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I use my N7 charger all the time with no ill effects.
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I keep having the phone turn off when I unplug it from my charger or if I don't hold the cord the right way it powers off. Now I checked the cable and the phone, the connector is fine. The other problem is I check the power level and the battery is at 100% but the moment it's unplugged it powers off again. So I replaced the battery and checked the contact pins to the battery and it's both good also.....so I am not sure what the next step is?
Can anyone please help? Also the phones never been dropped or gotten wet.
I know they keep saying that it shouldn't matter, but... might want to grab a battery calibration app or delete the battery info yourself. Alternatively, with the phone off, try to charge the battery.
Could be that the phone believes the battery is full when it's actually bone dry, and because it's disabled the charging, you're stuck whenever you aren't plugged in.
Bad battery? Is it swollen and puffy?
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I know they keep saying that it shouldn't matter, but... might want to grab a battery calibration app or delete the battery info yourself. Alternatively, with the phone off, try to charge the battery.
Could be that the phone believes the battery is full when it's actually bone dry, and because it's disabled the charging, you're stuck whenever you aren't plugged in.
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What app would I use for this? The phone isn't rooted so I don't think I can delete the battery data on the phone.
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Bad battery? Is it swollen and puffy?
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No, battery is good. I think the person above maybe right, if the battery is not charging because the phone is saying it's full when it's empty.
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What app would I use for this? The phone isn't rooted so I don't think I can delete the battery data on the phone.
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This one works if your not rooted.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=proffesionals.battery.callibration.paid&hl=en
I suspect battery is bad. I just got my new OEM one from eBay for 8$.
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You should try to wipe youre battery with some app, just google it, ive seen much of them.
I would suggest something like this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
Especially since it's free. Which beats any app with 'paid' in the internal name. But hey, if you have money to throw around, the other app does claim it knows what the real level is even without wiping it.
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I would suggest something like this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
Especially since it's free. Which beats any app with 'paid' in the internal name. But hey, if you have money to throw around, the other app does claim it knows what the real level is even without wiping it.
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His phones not rooted. Hence the link I gave him.
Okay. Here's one that says it works without root and is free. Ad supported, but how long after it's done are you going to keep the calibration app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.battery.repair.calibrator
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Bad battery? Is it swollen and puffy?
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hey my battery happens to be swollen and puffy..is that the reason for the random reboots and super fast drains?
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Yep
lonoguge said:
hey my battery happens to be swollen and puffy..is that the reason for the random reboots and super fast drains?
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That is exactly the cause. On my stock battery, it got all puffy and I kept getting random reboots and extremely fast battery drains. It definately is the battery and you should get it replaced. Try out this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004KVTNYE/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00. Its really good
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That is exactly the cause. On my stock battery, it got all puffy and I kept getting random reboots and extremely fast battery drains. It definately is the battery and you should get it replaced. Try out this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004KVTNYE/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00. Its really good
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Thanks! That's kind of a relief, I thought it was a problem with the software. Hey would the battery you're suggesting need an extended cover to accommodate the size because I believe our native battery capacity is 1600 mAh.
Our native OEM battery came with 1650 mah. I recommend buying the same (just did in eBay for 8$) instead of some untrusted manufacturer sh$t.
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I have had great results with the Epic 4G 1800 mah battery from Samsung. Fits with original back and works well.
So here is the deal... I have been a Verizon customer for years, and I am just sick and tired of them jerking me around and upping their rates, taking away unlimited data, taking away early upgrades, etc. So I am thinking of jumping ship and going to Net10. I am currently using the HTC Rezound which seems to be roughly roughly equivalent to the Skyrocket (Yes, I know I will not get true 4G/LTE on Net10, only HSPA+). I can get a new, sealed in the box Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (SGH-i727) for about $210 on eBay.
So where I am going with this, knowing Samsung has had quality models and, well, lets just say questionable models, how is the Skyrocket? Is it solid and relatively problem free? How is battery life, is it easy to unlock, root, ROM, return to stock, etc? Has anyone used this on Net10/StraightTalk?
So basically I am just looking for people's opinion of the phone in general, from a heavy phone users perspective... My other alternative's at this time are a new unlocked HTC Vivid which I can get new for just under $200, or just suck it up and grab a Nexus 4 from Google, although the $350+tax and shipping for the 16GB model would hurt, a lot, right now.
Thoughts?
I, along with most other power users here in the skyrocket forum will tell you that this is a great device. Rooting, rom-ing, and general modifications are a breeze as long as you read the stickies and have an ounce of common sense. Battery life is subjective to individual use, but I generally get around 12-15 hours with 3-5 hours screen on time. This can be extended significantly with a nexus extended battery and a minor modification (see accessories section for details). Hardware wise it it solid. The only common issue we've really seen is the power button failing for some users, I've had mine since it was released though with no issue so far. We have official support for CM, Slim Bean, PACMAN, and Avatar ROM (maybe more but I can't remember off hand), and ports or unofficial builds of just about everything else you'd want. Also, 4.3 is being worked on hard by our fine devs, and it seems that external speaker audio is the only thing preventing a beta release for most roms at the moment.
The community is, for the most part, knowledgeable and willing to assist with any problems you have as long as you attempted to do your homework first.
Any other questions, let me know. Otherwise, I'll extend a tentative welcome to the Skyrocket family.
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bps119 said:
I, along with most other power users here in the skyrocket forum will tell you that this is a great device. Rooting, rom-ing, and general modifications are a breeze as long as you read the stickies and have an ounce of common sense. Battery life is subjective to individual use, but I generally get around 12-15 hours with 3-5 hours screen on time. This can be extended significantly with a nexus extended battery and a minor modification (see accessories section for details). Hardware wise it it solid. The only common issue we've really seen is the power button failing for some users, I've had mine since it was released though with no issue so far. We have official support for CM, Slim Bean, PACMAN, and Avatar ROM (maybe more but I can't remember off hand), and ports or unofficial builds of just about everything else you'd want. Also, 4.3 is being worked on hard by our fine devs, and it seems that external speaker audio is the only thing preventing a beta release for most roms at the moment.
The community is, for the most part, knowledgeable and willing to assist with any problems you have as long as you attempted to do your homework first.
Any other questions, let me know. Otherwise, I'll extend a tentative welcome to the Skyrocket family.
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Thanks for the info!!! I really appreciate it!!!
One more quick question, does the Skyrocket use a standard sized SIM, or one of the newer micro-SIMs?
acejavelin said:
Thanks for the info!!! I really appreciate it!!!
One more quick question, does the Skyrocket use a standard sized SIM, or one of the newer micro-SIMs?
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Standard.
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One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
unni_kmr said:
One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
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User error or bad unit I have zero issues with my GPS or car charging. Also what amperage is your car charger capable of outputting.
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mtdew said:
User error or bad unit I have zero issues with my GPS or car charging. Also what amperage is your car charger capable of outputting.
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I am not 100% sure in terms of the amperage. But I tried with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. I was sitting in the passenger seat, phone was in my lap (not mounted in windshield) and Google Maps was running in navigation mode. For the first 15 minutes or so, I saw that the phone was charging. The charge level increased by 1% or 2%. After I think 20 minutes, it stopped charging. CPU-Z app was showing battery status as
health: over heated or heated (don't remember clearly the text)
power source: connected
status: not charging or discharing
Phone's back was very hot. I unplugged the USB cable and connected it back, and it started charging again! I waited for it to cool down, removed the phone case, repeated this and got the same result.
This is why I believe the phone is doing something to protect it from over heating. I am not sure though.
Well, I placed my order and should have my Skyrocket by the end of the week, and already have my Net10 SIM and $50 Unlimited card! So basically I am saying you will see more of me around here in the future. Thanks again bps119!
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I am not 100% sure in terms of the amperage. But I tried with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. I was sitting in the passenger seat, phone was in my lap (not mounted in windshield) and Google Maps was running in navigation mode. For the first 15 minutes or so, I saw that the phone was charging. The charge level increased by 1% or 2%. After I think 20 minutes, it stopped charging. CPU-Z app was showing battery status as
health: over heated or heated (don't remember clearly the text)
power source: connected
status: not charging or discharing
Phone's back was very hot. I unplugged the USB cable and connected it back, and it started charging again! I waited for it to cool down, removed the phone case, repeated this and got the same result.
This is why I believe the phone is doing something to protect it from over heating. I am not sure though.
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Amperage is important son too little it will discharge, I think it will limit if too much. Nav can cause some heat for some of these guys but I've never heard of it getting that high my guess is something was wrong.
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Amperage is important son too little it will discharge, I think it will limit if too much. Nav can cause some heat for some of these guys but I've never heard of it getting that high my guess is something was wrong.
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Sorry for off topic. Can you please recommend a charger, preferable the one you are using?
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Sorry for off topic. Can you please recommend a charger, preferable the one you are using?
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I have gotten my last few chargers at Sam's Club, they are about $10, and are rated at [email protected]
In an older phone I had a similar issue where my phone would overheat and not charge properly, once I got a new charger I cut the end off the old one and read the voltage with a meter, it was putting out almost 7.1v (should be 4.75-5.25vDC for USB 1.0-2.0 standard, and 5.25-5.75vDC for USB 3.0), pretty sure that is what caused it... cheap components equals cheap quality and flaws. Current rating should be irrelevant, as long as it meets the devices minimum requirements (most modern phones are [email protected]), even if a charger is rated at 2, 3, or even 5 amps, the device should not draw more than it can handle. Current is drawn, not pushed, a device will draw the needed current at the expected voltage, you can't really "over-current" a device by using a power source that is rated at the proper voltage but a higher current. Similar instance can occur by using a charger that has too low of a current rating, the device will try to draw more current than the adapter is rated at and the adapter will eventually fail or fall out of specifications.
Some other good chargers are by Anker, PowerGen, or RAVPower, and of course a Samsung branded adapter will work well, most all of these can be purchased for $8-$15 on Amazon. If the adapter is not rated with a current rating, then skip it, it is probably only 600ma-750ma and will be more headache than it's worth in the long run.
acejavelin said:
I have gotten my last few chargers at Sam's Club, they are about $10, and are rated at [email protected]
In an older phone I had a similar issue where my phone would overheat and not charge properly, once I got a new charger I cut the end off the old one and read the voltage with a meter, it was putting out almost 7.1v (should be 4.75-5.25vDC for USB 1.0-2.0 standard, and 5.25-5.75vDC for USB 3.0), pretty sure that is what caused it... cheap components equals cheap quality and flaws. Current rating should be irrelevant, as long as it meets the devices minimum requirements (most modern phones are [email protected]), even if a charger is rated at 2, 3, or even 5 amps, the device should not draw more than it can handle. Current is drawn, not pushed, a device will draw the needed current at the expected voltage, you can't really "over-current" a device by using a power source that is rated at the proper voltage but a higher current. Similar instance can occur by using a charger that has too low of a current rating, the device will try to draw more current than the adapter is rated at and the adapter will eventually fail or fall out of specifications.
Some other good chargers are by Anker, PowerGen, or RAVPower, and of course a Samsung branded adapter will work well, most all of these can be purchased for $8-$15 on Amazon. If the adapter is not rated with a current rating, then skip it, it is probably only 600ma-750ma and will be more headache than it's worth in the long run.
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Good to see that we're getting a new user who actually does their homework. :thumbup:
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Well, I placed my order and should have my Skyrocket by the end of the week, and already have my Net10 SIM and $50 Unlimited card! So basically I am saying you will see more of me around here in the future. Thanks again bps119!
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Just like to say great. I love my skyrocket. Over clocked at 1.78ghz and 320mhz gpu . great performance. Also with nexus extended battery for $6.50 at sprint. I have no reason to buy another phone. Welcome to the skyrocket community.
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I have an HTC Sensation and today I rooted my friend's Skyrocket. I must say, EVERYTHING about the Skyrocket amazed me in terms of performance, ease of use, and quality even though it's very similar in hardware specs to my own phone (both are MSM8x60). Rooting the phone only took about 3 minutes (installed TWRP; there was no locked-bootloader crap to deal with) and the colors on the touchscreen are wonderful, not to mention the sensitivity of the screen is great as well. The Skyrocket has official CM10.1 going for it so I installed that and it's fantastic; everything runs perfectly. Even while using the kernel included in CM10.1 the device was very fast but when I overclocked it, the performance blew me away, not to mention the phone didn't heat up at all (even while gaming!); compared to that, my HTC hits 70°C while gaming on CM10.1 at stock CPU/GPU frequencies. Rooting my friend's Skyrocket today has thoroughly convinced me to never buy an HTC again Also, the Skyrocket has great dev support seeing as how CM10.1 is official for it.
TL;DR: The Skyrocket is way better than your HTC and, in terms of development, it's not gonna die any time soon.
unni_kmr said:
One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
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The Skyrocket (and several other Samsung phones) need special "type 2" chargers. Apple charges are type 6, so if it says compatible with Apple, don't use it as it may not work. If the two center pins on the USB port doesn't have a 50 ohm resistor across them (or not shorted) , the Skyrocket will only draw 350 mA. Samsung and older Curve BlackBerry chargers have the resistor. At 350 mA, the phone draws more than the charger is providing, and the charger circuitry heats up trying to keep up with demand.
Jrockttu has a great thread under General called "Fix your Skyrockets battery life"
I've MOD'd all of my chargers, now my phone is happy with the screen on all day while driving and it stays charged, or charges slowly...
Tim
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I recently got rid of my Skyrocket. It was a good device, but a bad phone. The built-in microphone is terrible, people were always screaming that they couldn't hear me unless I used a headset. The signal was poor too, and I would often not receive calls (with no missed call notification or anything).
The Cyanogenmod support is good, and for an old device it runs plenty smooth and plays all the games I throw at it. So it's not bad in that regard. But the actual phone functionality was a real problem for me.
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i recently got rid of my skyrocket. It was a good device, but a bad phone. The built-in microphone is terrible, people were always screaming that they couldn't hear me unless i used a headset. The signal was poor too, and i would often not receive calls (with no missed call notification or anything).
The cyanogenmod support is good, and for an old device it runs plenty smooth and plays all the games i throw at it. So it's not bad in that regard. But the actual phone functionality was a real problem for me.
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mtdew said:
Faulty device or user error.
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lol didn't see your post
acejavelin said:
Well, I placed my order and should have my Skyrocket by the end of the week, and already have my Net10 SIM and $50 Unlimited card! So basically I am saying you will see more of me around here in the future. Thanks again bps119!
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Well, my Skyrocket arrived, looked great and appeared to be "new"... I fired it up and everything looked fine, but it wouldn't recognize the SIM card, just said "NO SIM INSTALLED - EMERGENCY CALLING ONLY" and wouldn't let me do anything in mobile networks at all (said something about must be registered to a network first), so I popped in an actual AT&T SIM, same result, and both SIM cards work in my old HTC Aria. Called the guy I bought it from on eBay, have to send it back and he will send me another new one. Hope this isn't a bad omen.
That sucks man, kinda takes the excitement out of getting the new phone. Oh well, forget it ever happened and hope that it was just a fluke.
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Honestly, you'll love the skyrocket. I've had mine for a little over a year and a half and it's more up-to-date than my girlfriend's s3. It's faster and lasts longer on battery as well. Although her s3 isn't rooted, being a newer device, you would think it would work better than mine. Not the case!
If you're trying to unlock your phone, there is an unlocking thread you could check out, although I'm not on touchwiz so I couldn't do it, others have had success with it so you shouldn't have to worry there. We're a great community, just like we've been when I first rooted a year and a half ago. Enjoy!