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More evidence some problems because of bad batteries

Had a chat with T-Mobile about getting a replacement battery due to the one I have possibly causing freezing or reboots. After a bit if annoying troubleshooting crap they ordered a warranty replacement for the battery. Only problem? They're back ordered with no eta! Perhaps they're fixing them? Will post when I get it and results.
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mobilehavoc said:
Had a chat with T-Mobile about getting a replacement battery due to the one I have possibly causing freezing or reboots. After a bit if annoying troubleshooting crap they ordered a warranty replacement for the battery. Only problem? They're back ordered with no eta! Perhaps they're fixing them? Will post when I get it and results.
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Based on the transitive property of association and parallel anomalies your deductions are as fundamentally sound as mine...
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mobilehavoc said:
Had a chat with T-Mobile about getting a replacement battery due to the one I have possibly causing freezing or reboots. After a bit if annoying troubleshooting crap they ordered a warranty replacement for the battery. Only problem? They're back ordered with no eta! Perhaps they're fixing them? Will post when I get it and results.
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I wouldn't worry too much about the back order. They told me the same thing and the next day I got a text saying it was shipped, I got it yesterday. They said my battery life was bad, it's still the same but at lest I've got a spare now.

Sk8trfred said:
I wouldn't worry too much about the back order. They told me the same thing and the next day I got a text saying it was shipped, I got it yesterday. They said my battery life was bad, it's still the same but at lest I've got a spare now.
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Hmmm excellent thought process
/me thinks
I can't seem to think that batteries are at fault. I think it is just the wonky stock kernel. Have you guys tried CM7 and its default kernel?

Sk8trfred said:
I wouldn't worry too much about the back order. They told me the same thing and the next day I got a text saying it was shipped, I got it yesterday. They said my battery life was bad, it's still the same but at lest I've got a spare now.
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You sir are right. Mine just shipped today - 24 hours after ordering. Why they are telling people they are on backorder makes no sense. Will post results soon.

are they just simply sending you a new battery? I would love a free extra battery since mine is always causing mine to reboot and freeze and die after 2 hours of use :eyeroll:

JHaste said:
are they just simply sending you a new battery? I would love a free extra battery since mine is always causing mine to reboot and freeze and die after 2 hours of use :eyeroll:
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Yes just the battery. Not sure what they'd charge if I don't send one back and keep both.

JHaste said:
are they just simply sending you a new battery? I would love a free extra battery since mine is always causing mine to reboot and freeze and die after 2 hours of use :eyeroll:
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yep....got two extra batteries yesterday. I have two g2x's. No issue at all getting them. My wife's phone is running much cooler now and I have an extra for mine now!

player911 said:
Hmmm excellent thought process
/me thinks
I can't seem to think that batteries are at fault. I think it is just the wonky stock kernel. Have you guys tried CM7 and its default kernel?
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I did this as a last resort. So far so good.

mobilehavoc said:
Yes just the battery. Not sure what they'd charge if I don't send one back and keep both.
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Shouldnt be a problem. I went ahead and ordered a new battery this morning for the hell of it. Dude told me I didnt have to send the old one back or anything.

I called up for a new battery because mine is going nuts. Sitting idle with everything shut off and lost 25% in 1 hour and half. I told t-mobile that and complained that I was a loyal customer. They're sending me a new battery and letting me keep this one.
Anyone know where I can get a external charger than can charge this battery that comes with the phone? i'd buy one considering i can use both

The chargers that come with the knock off ebay batteries would prolly work.

I bought mine on ebay, just search for g2x charger...you can find two batteries and a charger for around $12.00 and they work great for me.
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I have one of those chargers with those 2 batteries.
I'm a bit worried about using those 2 batteries though.... afraid to ruin my phone or I don't really want to get 4 hours use of those batteries. But the charger should definitely work then regp? Wouldn't damage my battery would it?

I cant promise it wont ruin your battery but my logic says if the battery is a clone of the original they should work in the same charger.. Check the voltage output on the battery and the charger just to make sure. I used the knock off charger for my real vibrant battery as well as the fake batteries and never had a problem.

Okay, so if the knock off charger has the same voltage and stuff, I can use it? Sounds good I guess!

I use and charge with the external charger the two knockoffs and the OEM batteries and they all work fine...
when charging batteries on the phone the knockoffs seem to run cooler...with the lg battery the phone gets hot, freezes and reboots while charging...but when charging the phone with the knockoffs it has never rebooted or frozen yet...
Edit: just jinx myself! G2x froze just now while charging with knockoff battery also...
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Really? I guess I can try it out on Monday when I get the battery, I think the facebook app was the one that was screwing up my battery because it's working better without it. Not sure

If you don't explicitly sign out of chat in Facebook it will keep your phone awake. Otherwise it shouldn't hurt your battery
Mikeglongo said:
Really? I guess I can try it out on Monday when I get the battery, I think the facebook app was the one that was screwing up my battery because it's working better without it. Not sure
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Still waiting for my exchange battery to arrive. The more I read the forums I have hope that's what is the cause. People are getting freezes even with cm7 which is a separate kernel. It would explain why for some people swapping out the phone worked because they got a different battery too. Lets hope I get a better battery.
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Battery overheating issue? Read

I'm posting this for informative purposes. This is not to ***** about anything or prove anyone wrong. These are simply my findings and my conclusion. I was a sales person for wireless carriers for 8 years and saw this stuff a lot and I would stress test phones before swapping because I hated giving people refurbished crap for them to come back and complain about the same overheat issue. This experience led me to think before doing a device swap.
my G2x battery got hot from day one. From my monitoring I noticed the following.
1. The phone itself was not really hot. Just general radiation from the immediate battery area and it cooled off quickly after battery removal while battery would stay hot for a good 15-20 minutes.
2. Battery temp would hit 106 degrees.
3. Battery life just plain sucked. Charging it 2 to 3 times a day on light use.
T-mobile replaced my battery and after one full day of on and off abuse running 6 quadrants in a row at Max overclock amongst other things and with a thick non breathable case in the back the temp never got over 99 degrees. Prior to swap just reading and posting on xda would spike temps and that was with no case.
So before you decide to do anything pay close attention to what exactly is getting hot. Is the actual device hot or is it just the battery. Is the device a tad warmer simply due to the battery being too hot? Get a battery monitor installed to see the temp. Check your settings such as overclocking undervoltage etc.
T-Mobile just wanted to swap everything but since my phone was not hot and I had a good screen and never a boot or reboot issue even before root and bloat installed etc so I didn't want to take a chance and get a **** device. They also told me it was OK that k needed to charge it 3 times a day. I said with triple the usage on my G2 I almost never needed to charge it at all mid day. While each device varies, one third the battery life on one third the usage is simply not right no matter how you look at it.
So I say pay attention to detail before returning your device especially if your device is a good one because it would suck to get a **** device in exchange for your good one just because of a battery.
EDIT. I do want to add that my battery has spiked to 103.8 degrees while basically doing CPU intensive stuff While charging the entire time. When not on the charger it did not spike as high. After a short time after charge hit 100% it dropped over 1.5 degrees pretty quickly.
G2x with faux AOSP

The fact that you wrote "a lot" instead of "alot" showed me your post was worth reading.
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stefan.buddle said:
The fact that you wrote "a lot" instead of "alot" showed me your post was worth reading.
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What? Really? Lol thanks for the info! I've noticed my battery getting hella hot when using navigation and a car charger. I could barely even hold the thing...
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crx4xharder said:
What? Really? Lol thanks for the info! I've noticed my battery getting hella hot when using navigation and a car charger. I could barely even hold the thing...
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OEM car charger or some wallywolrd special?
G2x with faux AOSP

stefan.buddle said:
The fact that you wrote "a lot" instead of "alot" showed me your post was worth reading.
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The fact that you wrote that leads me to believe you miss a lot of really important information because someone wrote "alot" as opposed to "a lot". Someone who writes "alot" isn't worth your time or energy?

[Q] Is there anything I can do to keep it from overheating?

Recently I have had my phone turn off and not turn on, even when plugged into the charger, it blinks red for a while then it will stop blinking, after that I can turn it back on. It gets really hot, which is why I guess it is overheating. It only does this on long calls, these calls are important which is why I need to figure out how to stop this from happening.
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Are you overclocking? Also how good is your battery? Batteries tend to get warm when the current draw is more than what the battery is capable of. I purchased a third party battery by Anker. Seems to run cooler for me and lasts longer than the stock battery ever did.

I have the same problem
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I noticed this more with sense roms than i did with aosp or cm based ones. One thing you can try doing that may help as a temp relief, is turn off 3g and use 2g mode only. It will consume far less power during a phone call, ive personally almost doubled my call length by doing this. I only enable 3g(3.5g) when i need data.

allenrb2 said:
Recently I have had my phone turn off and not turn on, even when plugged into the charger, it blinks red for a while then it will stop blinking, after that I can turn it back on. It gets really hot, which is why I guess it is overheating. It only does this on long calls, these calls are important which is why I need to figure out how to stop this from happening.
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How long have you had you Inspire? It has been well documented that there was a string of bad batteries. Many people got free replacements from AT&T or HTC, or just buy an Anker like goat tamer said. I have one also.

pazzo02 said:
How long have you had you Inspire? It has been well documented that there was a string of bad batteries. Many people got free replacements from AT&T or HTC, or just buy an Anker like goat tamer said. I have one also.
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Yeah I forgot about the batch of oem bad batteries. Every once in awhile especially playing some intense games my phone would warm up. With the anker battery my phone NEVER gets warm now.

Agoattamer said:
Are you overclocking? Also how good is your battery? Batteries tend to get warm when the current draw is more than what the battery is capable of. I purchased a third party battery by Anker. Seems to run cooler for me and lasts longer than the stock battery ever did.
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I haven't done any overclocking, I am using the freshly squeezed version of MIUI. The battery seems fine. I got this one as an insurance replacement for my Inspire last month, it is an obvious refurb, so no telling how old it really is. I will look into the Anker battery.
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Battery issues anyone?

Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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foxxx5oh said:
Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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Your battery is bad. Same thing happened to me, I recommend just buying a new OEM battery from a reputable dealer on Amazon, that's what I did. Try setting it down on a table and push on one side and if it rocks back and forth its bad. Or you can just look at it and see its swollen

Mine did that and it was just a bad battery. If you take the battery out and place it on a flat surface you may notice that it rocks left and right. If it rocks a lot or if you feel the middle and it feels swollen it may be symptoms of a bad battery.
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Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?

brenduh said:
Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?
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It is dangerous because battery acid can get on you and cause sever skin irritation. You can continue like this for 1 to 2 days MAX until you get your new battery. Try not to use it because using it more will cause it to swell more, DUH try to only use it for emergencies and then once you get the new battery clean the terminals and you'll be good to go

I used mine got a while like that because i didn't know it was the battery lol
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Thank you all, I wasn't sure what it was cause I can still pull over a day of battery life when it wants to lol. Looks like I'm on the hunt for a new one
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I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?

I'm still using my old vibrant battery (at times). I don't think that it's as strong as the spare that I purchased a few months ago, but, is on par with the 18 month old battery that came with the phone. I zap them all the way down a lot of the time (then swap to a fully charged one). I do(try) to recharge to full before use though.

Mine does it but only when I'm using wifi or data could that still be a bad battery
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hechoen said:
I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?
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I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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Hechoen.......I use mine till under 10% or so and then full charge it. Been doing that over a year now. My wife however plugs hers in off and on throughout the day without letting it full charge all at once and she has a bad battery....
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Shallow discharge cycles are generally accepted to be better for Li-ion batteries than deep ones.
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codealarms said:
I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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That is probably a bad idea. I would try to plug it in around 15-20% with 20% being the best time. According to the batteryuniversity website 20-80% is ideal for li-ion batteries because it keeps the heat down. Charging from less than 15% creates heat because that is a low level and takes a bit longer to charge from therefore exposes the battery to more heat. A good charger and battery will shut off the charger once it hits 100% and only allow for a trickle charge if the battery drops below 100%. But I have seen my phone get hotter from about 85% to 100% if Im using it ie: plugged in and streaming music or using navigation.

[Q] Phone keeps turning off on me...

I keep having the phone turn off when I unplug it from my charger or if I don't hold the cord the right way it powers off. Now I checked the cable and the phone, the connector is fine. The other problem is I check the power level and the battery is at 100% but the moment it's unplugged it powers off again. So I replaced the battery and checked the contact pins to the battery and it's both good also.....so I am not sure what the next step is?
Can anyone please help? Also the phones never been dropped or gotten wet.

I know they keep saying that it shouldn't matter, but... might want to grab a battery calibration app or delete the battery info yourself. Alternatively, with the phone off, try to charge the battery.
Could be that the phone believes the battery is full when it's actually bone dry, and because it's disabled the charging, you're stuck whenever you aren't plugged in.

Bad battery? Is it swollen and puffy?

Theraze said:
I know they keep saying that it shouldn't matter, but... might want to grab a battery calibration app or delete the battery info yourself. Alternatively, with the phone off, try to charge the battery.
Could be that the phone believes the battery is full when it's actually bone dry, and because it's disabled the charging, you're stuck whenever you aren't plugged in.
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What app would I use for this? The phone isn't rooted so I don't think I can delete the battery data on the phone.

champ1919 said:
Bad battery? Is it swollen and puffy?
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No, battery is good. I think the person above maybe right, if the battery is not charging because the phone is saying it's full when it's empty.

RiffyDivine said:
What app would I use for this? The phone isn't rooted so I don't think I can delete the battery data on the phone.
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This one works if your not rooted.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=proffesionals.battery.callibration.paid&hl=en

I suspect battery is bad. I just got my new OEM one from eBay for 8$.
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You should try to wipe youre battery with some app, just google it, ive seen much of them.

I would suggest something like this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
Especially since it's free. Which beats any app with 'paid' in the internal name. But hey, if you have money to throw around, the other app does claim it knows what the real level is even without wiping it.

Theraze said:
I would suggest something like this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
Especially since it's free. Which beats any app with 'paid' in the internal name. But hey, if you have money to throw around, the other app does claim it knows what the real level is even without wiping it.
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His phones not rooted. Hence the link I gave him.

Okay. Here's one that says it works without root and is free. Ad supported, but how long after it's done are you going to keep the calibration app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.battery.repair.calibrator

champ1919 said:
Bad battery? Is it swollen and puffy?
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hey my battery happens to be swollen and puffy..is that the reason for the random reboots and super fast drains?
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Yep
lonoguge said:
hey my battery happens to be swollen and puffy..is that the reason for the random reboots and super fast drains?
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That is exactly the cause. On my stock battery, it got all puffy and I kept getting random reboots and extremely fast battery drains. It definately is the battery and you should get it replaced. Try out this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004KVTNYE/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00. Its really good

dgmoodey said:
That is exactly the cause. On my stock battery, it got all puffy and I kept getting random reboots and extremely fast battery drains. It definately is the battery and you should get it replaced. Try out this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004KVTNYE/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00. Its really good
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Thanks! That's kind of a relief, I thought it was a problem with the software. Hey would the battery you're suggesting need an extended cover to accommodate the size because I believe our native battery capacity is 1600 mAh.

Our native OEM battery came with 1650 mah. I recommend buying the same (just did in eBay for 8$) instead of some untrusted manufacturer sh$t.
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I have had great results with the Epic 4G 1800 mah battery from Samsung. Fits with original back and works well.