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I'm heavy user because I always do nothing at work because I can do my thing in 2hrs and just pretend I'm doing something for the remaining 6hrs of my work, hate it when you have to charge for 4hrs, why the heck Samsung did this long charging, iPhone 4 charge like 1hr from 15% this really annoys me, even when driving using navigation while charging, battery still draining what the **** Samsung.
I'm might be calling Samsung and bug them for the remaining 6hrs at work when I am not doing anything.
1800SAMSUNG.
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spirikitik said:
I'm heavy user because I always do nothing at work because I can do my thing in 2hrs and just pretend I'm doing something for the remaining 6hrs of my work, hate it when you have to charge for 4hrs, why the heck Samsung did this long charging, iPhone 4 charge like 1hr from 15% this really annoys me, even when driving using navigation while charging, battery still draining what the **** Samsung.
I'm might be calling Samsung and bug them for the remaining 6hrs at work when I am not doing anything.
1800SAMSUNG.
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I dont think a ROM can make a phone charge faster, but I know when I had my Captivate I had Serendipity and it improved my battery life by at least 2 hrs.
seriously, the infuse has a large battery, 1760mAh i think. it's going to take longer to charge because it has more to charge. blame physics
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seriously, the infuse has a large battery, 1760mAh i think. it's going to take longer to charge because it has more to charge. blame physics
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Physisc lol seems like you cut. Physics class, haven't you heard about rapid chargers?
I just called Samsung they told me even if I buy fast charger it won't work because the software design to regulate the amount of current when charging is set to a certain amp to not damage the battery,
So it is not physics it is just common sense because they told me that it is software. And the software has nothing to do with your 1750mah and your physics knowledge dreams of yours. And stop reminding me of physics I hate that class is too boring for me so I just sleep on my physics class.
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spirikitik said:
Physisc lol seems like you cut. Physics class, haven't you heard about rapid chargers?
I just called Samsung they told me even if I buy fast charger it won't work because the software design to regulate the amount of current when charging is set to a certain amp to not damage the battery,
So it is not physics it is just common sense because they told me that it is software. And the software has nothing to do with your 1750mah and your physics knowledge dreams of yours. And stop reminding me of physics I hate that class is too boring for me so I just sleep on my physics class.
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Forget Physics. You should have paid more attention in Grammar class. Maybe then you would be familiar with the concept of periods.
Stop feeding this troll.
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Grab a kernel with a modified charging script. It's all in the kernel.
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Grab a kernel with a modified charging script. It's all in the kernel.
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Oh so we really need netarchy. Thanks the donation doesn't meet his goal yet, mikeymike is done he will buy an Infuse maybe 2day or tommorow thanks
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Forget Physics. You should have paid more attention in Grammar class. Maybe then you would be familiar with the concept of periods.
Stop feeding this troll.
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Off course my grammar sucks because I only have been here in the US in a year, and I am lucky enough to live here in santa clarita where almost all American do not care about grammars, they are so educated enough to understand people who don't grew here in the US, and they don't use the word troll, I love living with white people. And hate talking to people tell other they are troll and he's not.
By the way try to go to Taiwan let us see how your grammar is in 1 year and 2 months then ask yourself if you are a troll or shrek
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LMAO at this thread.
Butt seriously, this guy has a perfectly valid point. The Infuse charges MUCH more slowly than any previous android phone I've had. It's not even close, and it can't all be explained by a bigger battery. The battery in my Droid X was very close to the number of mAH of the Infuse, yet it would charge 3 to 4 times faster.
Does anyone know the maximum amount of current the Infuse is set up to use when charging? That way at least we'd know if it's pointless to get a new charger beyond a certain number of amps.
If you use a OC kernel, you can set it at 100mzh max speed while charging. Not sure if this will charge faster.
My htc inspire charger charges my infuse much faster than the one that came with it
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LMAO at this thread.
Butt seriously, this guy has a perfectly valid point. The Infuse charges MUCH more slowly than any previous android phone I've had. It's not even close, and it can't all be explained by a bigger battery. The battery in my Droid X was very close to the number of mAH of the Infuse, yet it would charge 3 to 4 times faster.
Does anyone know the maximum amount of current the Infuse is set up to use when charging? That way at least we'd know if it's pointless to get a new charger beyond a certain number of amps.
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According to comments in the kernel code, 600 mA. Unfortunately without the MAX8998 datasheet, I only have comments to go by. Unlike most of Maxim's products, the 8998's datasheet does not appear to be public. That's battery input current, then there's the current needed to just keep the phone running which is ???
It's possible to increase the current, I'm running a test kernel that does it. However before unleashing it on the public I need to do some testing, such as:
1) Figure out whether it gracefully handles input "voltage droop" from weaker chargers such as the AT&T car charger and many other car chargers out there. All of my new 1A chargers are actually not 1A chargers, good thing they were just over a buck apiece. (The MC34063A used in them can't reliably output 1A at 5v when off of a 12v supply.)
2) If it doesn't, if there is a way to make it do so.
3) What sort of battery overtemperature protections there are, if any. If there aren't, the current needs to stay where it is.
Hopefully this can be tweaked in the kernel... My 2100 mAh car charger could charge my Captivate 20% in a 15 minute car ride. The Infuse? Not so much...
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Hopefully this can be tweaked in the kernel... My 2100 mAh car charger could charge my Captivate 20% in a 15 minute car ride. The Infuse? Not so much...
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Got a link to the kernel you were using on the Captivate at that time?
Turn it off when charging...
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Got a link to the kernel you were using on the Captivate at that time?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
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I'll take a look at that at some point. Unfortunately he includes source in a tar file, not on github, so I can't just browse to it from wherever.
As I mentioned above, it IS possible to increase the charge current in our devices by setting the MAX8998 PMIC's current limit differently, and I do have a kernel with the change integrated running on my device, but before publishing a kernel for public use I want to spend some time investigating possible negative side effects.
I personally couldn't care less. I easily make it to an overnight charge and then it can take as long as it wants (I'm on my third day of uncharged use right now). I'd rather the battery charge slowly and preserve it peak charging capacity (or as close to it as possible).
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I personally couldn't care less. I easily make it to an overnight charge and then it can take as long as it wants (I'm on my third day of uncharged use right now). I'd rather the battery charge slowly and preserve it peak charging capacity (or as close to it as possible).
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I think that *most likely*, other than the fact that weak-ass USB chargers abound and that could cause issues with higher charge current settings, it is safe to bump up our charge current 20%, since our battery capacity is 20% higher.
i.e. charge current up by 20% (which is what my current kernel tweak does) compared to other phones keeps our charge rate in terms of C the same as other phones.
I won't be porting any of the other charge tweaks from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996631 to our kernels myself - in fact if anything to keep the battery from getting abused, I might pair the increased charge current with a more conservative topoff/charge termination threshold.
One thing that's interesting is our kernel seems to claim some sort of "step charging" code, however it seems to always go to max charge rate even when the battery is in the 90s. I still need to make sense of the stepcharging routine - it looks like it would just cycle between 4 different current settings constantly, but in reality it goes right to the max in all situations except for when the battery is in constant-voltage charging (near charge termination).
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I personally couldn't care less. I easily make it to an overnight charge and then it can take as long as it wants (I'm on my third day of uncharged use right now). I'd rather the battery charge slowly and preserve it peak charging capacity (or as close to it as possible).
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Yeah that's great for you, but for those of us whose phones die in 12-15 hours, not so much. In addition, the fact that the battery discharges while being charged in the car and running nav is kind of ridiculous.
I bought an OEM extended battery and had been using it exclusively for the last 3 months. This last week when flashing between a few new roms, AOSP and GB, I started having increasingly frequent shutdowns. eventually it got to the point I was pretty much positive it was bricked. As a last attempt I pulled the SD and battery, then replaced the battery with the one my phone came with. Sure enough I was back in business. has been 12 hours and no more forced shutdowns. Interestingly enough my extended battery will cause force shutdowns every time I put it back in my phone now.
Yes my phone use to do that. When I had the OG Droid. It was the battery I switched battery's I went for the extended battery I got. And but a stock one in and it worked fine.
Just but the HTC 2750 mah correct me if I'm wrong lol I forgot the size lol
Sounds like a faulty batt, its probly fluctuating its voltages or sending power spikes and causing your phone to shut off.
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People use the term "brick" too loosely.
Trust me, when your phone bricks you'll know it.
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CanesDrew said:
People use the term "brick" too loosely.
Trust me, when your phone bricks you'll know it.
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Yeah... no doubt.
sonami said:
Sounds like a faulty batt, its probly fluctuating its voltages or sending power spikes and causing your phone to shut off.
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I'm seconding this. Watch the voltage levels. See what they read at.
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Sounds like a faulty batt, its probly fluctuating its voltages or sending power spikes and causing your phone to shut off.
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I'll agree it could easily be a bad battery, but for the record, looking at it's voltage probably isn't going to tell you much. If you were to look at voltage characteristics for a known-working battery you'd see some pretty wild spikes that might alarm you. If you're looking at this on a suspect battery and you've never looked at it before, you're going to assume that's the cause. Li-on batteries don't spike voltages in any meaningful way. They are actually VERY non-volatile regarding output. What you might have is a bad cell in the battery. The best way to diagnose this is to monitor it's charge characteristics and temperature. A bad cell will create much greater resistance inside the battery, creating heat during charging, and creating situations where load drive output voltages unexpectedly below 3 volts, at which point your device is very definitely going to try to shut off.
Dude just buy the HTC extended battery I have it and its worth the money!
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People use the term "brick" too loosely.
Trust me, when your phone bricks you'll know it.
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This is so very true...
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People use the term "brick" too loosely.
Trust me, when your phone bricks you'll know it.
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i was going to say the same thing. a faulty battery does not equal a bricked phone.
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Dude just buy the HTC extended battery I have it and its worth the money!
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Dude, it is an HTC extended battery,
yes bad battery is not brick phone, but when your phone starts rebooting in recovery, brick comes to mind pretty fast.
I just posted my findings to see if anyone had similar things happen to them, who knows how many people also assumed "brick" w/o trying a different battery and what not.
Dianne Hackborn - 6:42 PM - Public Today's myth debunking:
"The battery indicator in the status/notification bar is a reflection of the batterystats.bin file in the data/system/directory."
No, it does not.
This file is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings.
That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
It has no impact on the current battery level shown to you.
It has no impact on your battery life.
Deleting it is not going to do anything to make your more device more fantastic and wonderful... well, unless you have some deep hatred for seeing anything shown in the battery usage UI. And anyway, it is reset every time you unplug from power with a relatively full charge (thus why the battery usage UI data resets at that point), so this would be a much easier way to make it for away.
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https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
Finally.
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nice find. guess the perceived improvement in battery accuracy/life is all placebo
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nice find. guess the perceived improvement in battery accuracy/life is all placebo
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Yes, like so many other things...
mrmako777 said:
nice find. guess the perceived improvement in battery accuracy/life is all placebo
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Is that what wipe battery stats does? I have never noticed any difference when I did that. To think of all the times I have run the battery down, cleared the stats, charged it, and cleared the stats again with no noticeable results.
Sometimes it seems like the battery life gets thrown off by flashing a new rom. It isn't necessarily getting worse battery life but the indicator will work funny like it will show 99% for 3 hours and I will think I am getting great battery life and then go to 30 in the next 20 minutes. It is like the UI gets confused. My tablet will sometimes say "connect your charger" even though the battery and indicator are 100%.
I don't think people realize how much drain the display is on the battery. They flash a cool rom and use it a lot and then think they are getting bad battery life because the display has been on for two hours while they play with it. It is amazing the amount of difference I get between when I am fidgeting with my phone while I am at work (have to recharge during the day) and when I am at home on the weekend and it sits on the kitchen table most of the time (it will generally go all weekend without a charge).
Wonder why its even an option to wipe battery stats with apps or recovery if it doesnt do anything. I never saw a difference myself, I just wiped them periodically cause others seemed to think it made a difference.
Always worked for me. Been flashing since g1 days. whatever
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Always worked for me. Been flashing since g1 days. whatever
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Ya well she helped make the original rom for your g1 so she must be wrong. The thickness of some peoples head
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Ya well she helped make the original rom for your g1 so she must be wrong. The thickness of some peoples head
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+1 lol
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First of all those of us who actually knows about Android OS really knows that /data/system/batterystats.bin is nothing more than stats audit. Now if you think you can't actually re-calibrate battery and project that data than your a fool. It has nothing to do with that file.
First of all to accurately predicate it you need a true daemon that's capable of tracking system data with full autonomy access. Second you need correct battery specs from the manufacturer. As reading memory from it may or not even be supported by the device kernel if its not allocated. Thus you see issues with cross link batteries on stock roms, but some is exceptional with similar size, specs.
Now to project the correct data from ~1-100% you need to fully discharge for it to cycle. Yes I know some of you maybe saying never fully discharge Li-Io but if you know the min mV rating then you can stop near suggested mV as it won't go below and damage cells. From then the duration of full charge is defined along with total available mAh. By calculating discharged -mA draw pre scale unit over empty estimation you can predict the true battery percentage.
Ex: ATM my uptime is 14h 47m at 65% with moderate usage (talk, txt, web). Since I have MP1650mAh battery I'm currently at 1072mAh. As its drawing -90mA per scale unit with 4156mV. At this current rate fully projected empty estimation is 9h 38m. Keep in mind my deviceis highly optimized and is on very aggressive battery saving mode.
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First of all those of us who actually knows about Android OS really knows that /data/system/batterystats.bin is nothing more than stats audit. Now if you think you can't actually re-calibrate battery and project that data than your a fool. It has nothing to do with that file.
First of all to accurately predicate it you need a true daemon that's capable of tracking system data with full autonomy access. Second you need correct battery specs from the manufacturer. As reading memory from it may or not even be supported by the device kernel if its not allocated. Thus you see issues with cross link batteries on stock roms, but some is exceptional with similar size, specs.
Now to project the correct data from ~1-100% you need to fully discharge for it to cycle. Yes I know some of you maybe saying never fully discharge Li-Io but if you know the min mV rating then you can stop near suggested mV as it won't go below and damage cells. From then the duration of full charge is defined along with total available mAh. By calculating discharged -mA draw pre scale unit over empty estimation you can predict the true battery percentage.
Ex: ATM my uptime is 14h 47m at 65% with moderate usage (talk, txt, web). Since I have MP1650mAh battery I'm currently at 1072mAh. As its drawing -90mA per scale unit with 4156mV. At this current rate fully projected empty estimation is 9h 38m. Keep in mind my deviceis highly optimized and is on very aggressive battery saving mode.
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prime_batteries
The truth is out there
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mark manning said:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prime_batteries
The truth is out there
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And that is why you don't allow fools to use Google. Do you actually understand or comprehend what was said? Let me ask you this why do you think they "wipe batterystats"? What's the reason for it? lol he thinks you can't predict actual mV/mAh of battery based on mA draw lol now that isfunny. The whole reason of having any UI battery metter was based on what logic? Next time you Google.com something make sure you actually comprehend what was the logic behind it. Hey all THE truth is out there...
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And that is why you don't allow fools to use Google. Do you actually understand or comprehend what was said? Let me ask you this why do you think they "wipe batterystats"? What's the reason for it? lol he thinks you can't predict actual mV/mAh of battery based on mA draw lol now that isfunny. The whole reason of having any UI battery metter was based on what logic? Next time you Google.com something make sure you actually comprehend what was the logic behind it. Hey all THE truth is out there...
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The sad part was I was backing up on what you said. Calm down read it in lame mans terms before you trip.
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Man, its getting hot in here. Lol.
Ok, so, if wiping battery stats is useless because it does NOTHING to the battery, is there a way to address the battery and force it to allow a slight overcharge on a regular basis, thereby shutting charging off at a higher capacity?
Please forgive my ignorance gentleman, and refrain from verbally bashing me.
I bought a 1550 mAh Anker battery. If I charge it to 100% and then use it, it stays at 100% for hours. Is this because my phone is waiting for it to drop below 1400 mAh, or what? If that's the case can I somehow tell my phone to consider 1550 mAh 100%?
I ask because of the mugen power app on the market. It intrigued me. Though there is a chance its a bunch.of balogna.
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The sad part was I was backing up on what you said. Calm down read it in lame mans terms before you trip.
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sorry I knew that was another possibility, my mistake. I thought the link you posted some how undermines what I said as you quoted me. As I only posted how to accurately predict and report battery data. Also I think you know who I am...
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Man, its getting hot in here. Lol.
Ok, so, if wiping battery stats is useless because it does NOTHING to the battery, is there a way to address the battery and force it to allow a slight overcharge on a regular basis, thereby shutting charging off at a higher capacity?
Please forgive my ignorance gentleman, and refrain from verbally bashing me.
I bought a 1550 mAh Anker battery. If I charge it to 100% and then use it, it stays at 100% for hours. Is this because my phone is waiting for it to drop below 1400 mAh, or what? If that's the case can I somehow tell my phone to consider 1550 mAh 100%?
I ask because of the mugen power app on the market. It intrigued me. Though there is a chance its a bunch.of balogna.
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That is THE prime reason people "wipe batterystats.bin" thinking it would fix staying for hours at 100% delay and heavy drop in short time. Which is sign of missing true data. Normally its measured via min/max mV and available mAh. Now by subtracting the used mA per scale unit the empty estimation is calculated. Thus projecting power draw at given duration and near accurate battery metter.
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sorry I knew that was another possibility, my mistake. I thought the link you posted some how undermines what I said as you quoted me. As I only posted how to accurately predict and report battery data. Also I think you know who I am...
That is THE prime reason people "wipe batterystats.bin" thinking it would fix staying for hours at 100% delay and heavy drop in short time. Which is sign of missing true data. Normally its measured via min/max mV and available mAh. Now by subtracting the used mA per scale unit the empty estimation is calculated. Thus projecting power draw at given duration and near accurate battery metter.
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kinda wondered if that was you, didnt have your typical avatar tho
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So with this being said then you don't have to worry about your battery percentage between flashing roms?
The battery life should be still accurate?
I have a 1700mah
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That is THE prime reason people "wipe batterystats.bin" thinking it would fix staying for hours at 100% delay and heavy drop in short time. Which is sign of missing true data. Normally its measured via min/max mV and available mAh. Now by subtracting the used mA per scale unit the empty estimation is calculated. Thus projecting power draw at given duration and near accurate battery metter.
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Yes, of course it is the prime reason. My question was, is there a way to tell the phone that 1550 is 100% or do I just deal with inaccurate monitoring that is based on a 1400 mAh battery?
Or, alternatively, will android figure it out over time and adjust for me?
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answer me this: why in miui does the hardware led light up green when miui tells me im only at 90%? when i check the mv with the battery calibration app it tells me im at 4220 which is a full charge...what makes miui not see that the battery is full?
Before battery calibration, regardless of what happens, I was getting 9 hours, light usage. After battery calibration I get 19 hours, medium use. I'll stick with it with my thick headed self.
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Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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Your battery is bad. Same thing happened to me, I recommend just buying a new OEM battery from a reputable dealer on Amazon, that's what I did. Try setting it down on a table and push on one side and if it rocks back and forth its bad. Or you can just look at it and see its swollen
Mine did that and it was just a bad battery. If you take the battery out and place it on a flat surface you may notice that it rocks left and right. If it rocks a lot or if you feel the middle and it feels swollen it may be symptoms of a bad battery.
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Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?
brenduh said:
Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?
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It is dangerous because battery acid can get on you and cause sever skin irritation. You can continue like this for 1 to 2 days MAX until you get your new battery. Try not to use it because using it more will cause it to swell more, DUH try to only use it for emergencies and then once you get the new battery clean the terminals and you'll be good to go
I used mine got a while like that because i didn't know it was the battery lol
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Thank you all, I wasn't sure what it was cause I can still pull over a day of battery life when it wants to lol. Looks like I'm on the hunt for a new one
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I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?
I'm still using my old vibrant battery (at times). I don't think that it's as strong as the spare that I purchased a few months ago, but, is on par with the 18 month old battery that came with the phone. I zap them all the way down a lot of the time (then swap to a fully charged one). I do(try) to recharge to full before use though.
Mine does it but only when I'm using wifi or data could that still be a bad battery
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I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?
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I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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Hechoen.......I use mine till under 10% or so and then full charge it. Been doing that over a year now. My wife however plugs hers in off and on throughout the day without letting it full charge all at once and she has a bad battery....
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Shallow discharge cycles are generally accepted to be better for Li-ion batteries than deep ones.
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codealarms said:
I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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That is probably a bad idea. I would try to plug it in around 15-20% with 20% being the best time. According to the batteryuniversity website 20-80% is ideal for li-ion batteries because it keeps the heat down. Charging from less than 15% creates heat because that is a low level and takes a bit longer to charge from therefore exposes the battery to more heat. A good charger and battery will shut off the charger once it hits 100% and only allow for a trickle charge if the battery drops below 100%. But I have seen my phone get hotter from about 85% to 100% if Im using it ie: plugged in and streaming music or using navigation.
Hello all,
So when I got my phone off eBay a couple months back, it came with a couple EZOPower 1900mAh batteries. They seem to work fine (except my phone may turn off when using the camera flash when battery is under ~60% - three pictures in a row you can pretty much guarantee it) other than that I don't know their condition.
Does anyone have experience with these batteries?:
http://www.amazon.ca/EZOPower-Standard-1900mAh-Battery-Sensation/dp/B006J41NPC
I found this related thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468559
It quickly became a discussion about Anker (only one reply was about EZO). Am mulling over switching to Anker, and I guess I am looking for justification for it. If there's a fair amount of life left in what I got, I'll hold off - I just don't know the warning signs to say its time.
I welcome opinions, stories, whatever. Thanks.
Don't know about these ones. I tried out the 2450 Gold batteries a while back and wouldn't go back. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41538260
Make sure you get Japanese-made not Chinese (check the photos).
As to the warning signs, I had camera shutdowns like you, cycling reboots, and other random shutdowns at time of processor stress. I had to reduce the max clock speed to ease the load.
Now all that's gone.
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davidf9 said:
Don't know about these ones. I tried out the 2450 Gold batteries a while back and wouldn't go back. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41538260
Make sure you get Japanese-made not Chinese (check the photos).
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Noted. Any new battery I go for would be the Anker.
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As to the warning signs, I had camera shutdowns like you, cycling reboots, and other random shutdowns at time of processor stress. I had to reduce the max clock speed to ease the load.
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Just having the camera shutdowns, nothing else. I will try out the other EZO battery to see how it fares differently.
On a related note, I woke up today, took my phone off the charger, and did very little for the phone to be down to 15% in five hours. Took a few pictures, browsed a little, nothing serious. I attached my wakelocks and battery stats. The phone couldn't go into deep sleep whatever it was, and I could blame Auto pilot Mode for it, but Google Services did quite the number as well. Interesting enough I took a few screenshots.
Have since rebooted with the other battery. Will see how it goes.
Better day...
Edit: Just took three pictures in a row with this current battery life (33%). No reboots. This one is going strong.
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davidf9 said:
Don't know about these ones. I tried out the 2450 Gold batteries a while back and wouldn't go back. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41538260
Make sure you get Japanese-made not Chinese (check the photos).
As to the warning signs, I had camera shutdowns like you, cycling reboots, and other random shutdowns at time of processor stress. I had to reduce the max clock speed to ease the load.
Now all that's gone.
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Any chance you can show us the seller who had the japanese batteries? I think I've only tried the chinese ones thus far and they have varied between good and not good.
Ziida said:
Any chance you can show us the seller who had the japanese batteries? I think I've only tried the chinese ones thus far and they have varied between good and not good.
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I bought it over a year ago, and by the looks of it the vendor doesn't have them anymore. http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/elifegizmo?_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2754
Originally I looked for the ones that have photos that say "made in Japan" on the basis that then I would have a sound basis for returning them if they weren't! I've done a quick search now, and quite a few don't have photos, or say "made in China", but these two both say "Japan":
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Capa...749?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item417eebe7c5
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gold-2450...154?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c3549b8ba
No warranty from me of course...
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I bought it over a year ago, and by the looks of it the vendor doesn't have them anymore. http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/elifegizmo?_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2754
Originally I looked for the ones that have photos that say "made in Japan" on the basis that then I would have a sound basis for returning them if they weren't! I've done a quick search now, and quite a few don't have photos, or say "made in China", but these two both say "Japan":
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Capa...749?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item417eebe7c5
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gold-2450...154?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c3549b8ba
No warranty from me of course...
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Thanks so much, I'll give one of these a try
Not sure whether they're truly 2540mAh by the way - battery monitor doesn't think so. But they're much better than the stock battery, and don't cut out in the same way, so for me they've been a major step forward.
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Yea I doubt they're much more capacity than what the stock battery reports (if at all), but fresh batteries can make a huge difference over a year old one.
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David,
I think I'm finally getting that. I took my processor speed down one notch to 1458MHz. Everything is working out so far. Is there a lower speed you would recommend for this issue, or is 1458MHz sufficient?
Hoping the random shutdowns are battery related anyway ...
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David,
I think I'm finally getting that. I took my processor speed down one notch to 1458MHz. Everything is working out so far. Is there a lower speed you would recommend for this issue, or is 1458MHz sufficient?
Hoping the random shutdowns are battery related anyway ...
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Actually I always use the frequency HTC shipped it with originally in Gingerbread - 1296. I've never noticed much difference in response in real life use, and the battery drain is so much lower so I get much better life. There's also a couple of threads around around suggesting that the really low bottom frequencies might be why some phones have wake-up problems. I've not seen those, but I tend to turn the bottom frequency back up to 192 as well. I really appreciate the options the devs have given us, I just choose not to use them...
Now Running Anker ...
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Even after changing the frequencies to 1296/192mHz, I was still having problems with the random shutdowns, although they happened less often. I put the EZO battery I had at the beginning of the thread back in, and that alleviated the problem. So I am just dealing with an exhausted battery.
I think that was justification enough to try the Anker. $26 CDN (and a week and a half) later, Amazon delivered and I swapped out batteries. I am now on day two, and after a full charge last night, it has been 11 hours at light/moderate use and I'm still at 84% battery life. I am doing very well I think, since with the EZO I would be down to 60-some percent in the same amount of time. I don't think I'll even bother with the charger tonight (should last all day tomorrow as well). Probably a good idea since you only get 500 good charges with the batteries anyways.
I even tested the camera, no shutdowns there (although the real test would be when the power is below 50%).
Leaving the frequencies as they are, no need to stress the device (and battery), for a little extra speed that I wouldn't really notice.
Good news. Hope it holds up for you.
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