I wrote a post(don't worry about actually reading it as it contains a lot of explanation about what ROMs are and I'm sure most of you here know that) earlier about the need for a collection of vanilla AOSP builds for as many phones as possible. Being that this is probably the biggest gathering place of Android ROM developers on the internet, it seems like the logical place bring this up.
Basically, while CyanogenMod and other AOSP based ROMs are nice, they're fairly well modified and are far from vanilla AOSP. That's great for people who want those specific modifications, but at the end of the day they aren't all that different from manufacturer Sense or Touchwiz ROMs from an AOSP point of view(even if they are better). While I don't have have any problem with these ROMs(I'll probably run CM7 on my phones once it's less buggy for me), many people would prefer to start with a vanilla AOSP ROM and add on just what they want or need.
I'm aware that there are some vanilla AOSP builds for some phones floating around out there, but they are pretty scattered and only cover a small fraction of phones. For many phones, an AOSP based ROM like CM is the closest you can get to vanilla Android.
I think a central repository of actual AOSP builds for as many phones as possbile would be very beneficial to the community. Maybe a ROM developer who ports AOSP to their device could post that vanilla build before adding in all his extras.
Just a thought, but something I think it'd be great for the community to look into.
Actually thats a nice idea.
I am a lover of stock android look.
I wish if we could make available AOSP roms for most phones.
It would be awesome !!
What is the differenece between the two, also which one do you think is better.
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It comes down to opinions some like sense some like aosp.... And aosp =android open source project
Aokp=android open kang project
Aosp...PA...and aokp are all stock android built directly from source
AOSP refers to Android as it comes straight from Google. Some also refer to this as "vanilla" Android. From there, manufacturers often add their own "skin" to the OS to help differentiate themselves from the competition. HTC has the "Sense" skin, Samsung has TouchWiz, Motorola has Blur, and so on. The differences can range from diverging from the "vanilla" color layouts and icons, to completely replacing some of the built-in apps (launcher, browser, music player, camera, etc.) with their own manufacturer-proprietary apps.
Really, if you are looking at custom ROMs, you should think of them as being "Sense-based" and "AOSP-based" rather than "AOSP". The spirit of the AOSP-based ROMs is to remain loyal to the AOSP or vanilla feel. But most AOSP ROMs include a huge number of customizations, extra features, that calling them "AOSP" is a big disingenuous, when they are better called "AOSP-based".
Also, some will refer to AOSP as "stock" Android, but this is confusing. By "stock", they mean as Android comes from Google. But in reality, you can also call the official ROM as it shipped with your phone as "stock" (such as "returning your phone to stock"). Since HTC never intended the phone to run without Sense, it makes it confusing to use the word "stock" for AOSP. Better to just call it AOSP.
What a person likes better is purely a matter of personal preference. Everyone has different aesthetic tastes, and expectations on features and performance. So don't let anyone tell you that one ROM is "better" than another, and don't expect to be told that either. It like asking somebody to tell you what your favorite color is.
redpoint73 said:
AOSP refers to Android as it comes straight from Google. Some also refer to this as "vanilla" Android. From there, manufacturers often add their own "skin" to the OS to help differentiate themselves from the competition. HTC has the "Sense" skin, Samsung has TouchWiz, Motorola has Blur, and so on. The differences can range from diverging from the "vanilla" color layouts and icons, to completely replacing some of the built-in apps (launcher, browser, music player, camera, etc.) with their own manufacturer-proprietary apps.
Really, if you are looking at custom ROMs, you should think of them as being "Sense-based" and "AOSP-based" rather than "AOSP". The spirit of the AOSP-based ROMs is to remain loyal to the AOSP or vanilla feel. But most AOSP ROMs include a huge number of customizations, extra features, that calling them "AOSP" is a big disingenuous, when they are better called "AOSP-based".
Also, some will refer to AOSP as "stock" Android, but this is confusing. By "stock", they mean as Android comes from Google. But in reality, you can also call the official ROM as it shipped with your phone as "stock" (such as "returning your phone to stock"). Since HTC never intended the phone to run without Sense, it makes it confusing to use the word "stock" for AOSP. Better to just call it AOSP.
What a person likes better is purely a matter of personal preference. Everyone has different aesthetic tastes, and expectations on features and performance. So don't let anyone tell you that one ROM is "better" than another, and don't expect to be told that either. It like asking somebody to tell you what your favorite color is.
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I have always had the doubt of how do the AOSP based roms stand against Sense based roms in term of usability and stability? do thay function correctly and take full advantage of the One X hardware? It's not very clear (at least not to me) in most of the Rom's description.
korlinr said:
I have always had the doubt of how do the AOSP based roms stand against Sense based roms in term of usability and stability? do thay function correctly and take full advantage of the One X hardware? It's not very clear (at least not to me) in most of the Rom's description.
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If you take time to read through the threads a bit, you will find that they are plenty stable, and used by many as daily drivers. Many people find them faster and more usable than Sense based ROMs. But that is very subjective.
And honestly, I can flash a ROM, and be fully configured with all apps and settings in about 20 minutes. Why not just pick a few that look good, and try them? You can read all you want, but it won't tell you for certain whether you will like the ROM or not. Only way to really know, is to try them yourself.
Since all of the bugs haven't been ironed out in cm..you will probably find more stability on sense roms on this device...but say on the HTC inspire sense is very heavy and aosp would give you better battery
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Since all of the bugs haven't been ironed out in cm..you will probably find more stability on sense roms on this device...
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CM10.1 (Android 4.2) is in a fairly early phase, with some bugs. But CM10 (Android 4.1) has been very stable, for a very long time. As far as I know anyway, I'm almost entirely a Sense guy.
If you want to make an apples to apples comparison, there is no Sense based ROM that is Android 4.2 (they are all 4.1). So you are comparing a slightly buggy 4.2 AOSP ROM to one that doesn't even exist (Sense based 4.2). Or comparing the cutting edge to (literally) last year's model.
Again, it just goes back to the subjective nature of picking a ROM. There are probably hundreds of CM users here that will argue that AOSP performs better than Sense.
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CM10.1 (Android 4.2) is in a fairly early phase, with some bugs. But CM10 (Android 4.1) has been very stable, for a very long time. As far as I know anyway, I'm almost entirely a Sense guy.
If you want to make an apples to apples comparison, there is no Sense based ROM that is Android 4.2 (they are all 4.1). So you are comparing a slightly buggy 4.2 AOSP ROM to one that doesn't even exist (Sense based 4.2). Or comparing the cutting edge to (literally) last year's model.
Again, it just goes back to the subjective nature of picking a ROM. There are probably hundreds of CM users here that will argue that AOSP performs better than Sense.
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Yes .. I realize cm 10 is very stable..sorry I don't know what I was thinking with that post
I have used many AOSP based roms as my daily driver, including CM, AOKP, Jellybam, and King Kang. They have always stable and reliable for me. In saying that, ViperXL (which is Sense based) is also very reliable. It comes down to flashing a few and seeing what you prefer.
I want to know which out of Cyanogenmod and Touchwiz is better. I have a Gt P3110 running on Stock 4.1.2 rom. If Cyanogenmod is good, tell me its benifits..
This is a matter of opinion. A lot of forums don't like opinion questions as they lead to arguments that lead to name calling preceeded by child acting. I personally don't like touchwiz. I can't place a specific on why or what i don't like, i have tried many touchwiz based ROMS on my phones and tablets, and always go back to aokp on my phone and CM on my tablets. Specifically, I can tell you I do like the PIE controls CM has.
Using SynergyROM at the moment due to the Pdroid integration. I want to upgrade though to 4.3 or 4.4, and am looking for a ROM that has WORKING privacy controls. Pdroid works fairly well on Synergy and has kept my data from the prying eyes of developers. Any recommendations on a new ROM? Synergy hasn't updated beyond 4.1.
Requirements:
Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 I535
Android 4.3 or 4.4
Working Camera/GPS
Working Privacy controls.
I've been watching the Android development forum, but it seems like the privacy options have fallen out of the newer ROMS. Did they finally bake the controls into the base kernels?
Siawn
As XDA is not a support site, members are expected to do their own research as to what suits them the best...rom recommendation threads get closed as they become arguments over which one is "Best".
I'm not comfortable with the ROM I have right now (resurrection remix) and several things actually don't work properly. So I'm running an rooted Samsung galaxy s 4 mini and I'm looking for a rom for daily use cthat of course offers stability, high customizability and possibly as many features as possible. Customization and stability is the most important for me. Anyone know a good one?
I don't have a specific rom to suggest... check out the device forum and read posts from folks who have first hand experience with your device... but in a general sense I've had great luck with the cyanogenmod releases. The stable releases are typically solid and well built, it might e a good place to start.