I wrote a post(don't worry about actually reading it as it contains a lot of explanation about what ROMs are and I'm sure most of you here know that) earlier about the need for a collection of vanilla AOSP builds for as many phones as possible. Being that this is probably the biggest gathering place of Android ROM developers on the internet, it seems like the logical place bring this up.
Basically, while CyanogenMod and other AOSP based ROMs are nice, they're fairly well modified and are far from vanilla AOSP. That's great for people who want those specific modifications, but at the end of the day they aren't all that different from manufacturer Sense or Touchwiz ROMs from an AOSP point of view(even if they are better). While I don't have have any problem with these ROMs(I'll probably run CM7 on my phones once it's less buggy for me), many people would prefer to start with a vanilla AOSP ROM and add on just what they want or need.
I'm aware that there are some vanilla AOSP builds for some phones floating around out there, but they are pretty scattered and only cover a small fraction of phones. For many phones, an AOSP based ROM like CM is the closest you can get to vanilla Android.
I think a central repository of actual AOSP builds for as many phones as possbile would be very beneficial to the community. Maybe a ROM developer who ports AOSP to their device could post that vanilla build before adding in all his extras.
Just a thought, but something I think it'd be great for the community to look into.
Actually thats a nice idea.
I am a lover of stock android look.
I wish if we could make available AOSP roms for most phones.
It would be awesome !!
What is the differenece between the two, also which one do you think is better.
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It comes down to opinions some like sense some like aosp.... And aosp =android open source project
Aokp=android open kang project
Aosp...PA...and aokp are all stock android built directly from source
AOSP refers to Android as it comes straight from Google. Some also refer to this as "vanilla" Android. From there, manufacturers often add their own "skin" to the OS to help differentiate themselves from the competition. HTC has the "Sense" skin, Samsung has TouchWiz, Motorola has Blur, and so on. The differences can range from diverging from the "vanilla" color layouts and icons, to completely replacing some of the built-in apps (launcher, browser, music player, camera, etc.) with their own manufacturer-proprietary apps.
Really, if you are looking at custom ROMs, you should think of them as being "Sense-based" and "AOSP-based" rather than "AOSP". The spirit of the AOSP-based ROMs is to remain loyal to the AOSP or vanilla feel. But most AOSP ROMs include a huge number of customizations, extra features, that calling them "AOSP" is a big disingenuous, when they are better called "AOSP-based".
Also, some will refer to AOSP as "stock" Android, but this is confusing. By "stock", they mean as Android comes from Google. But in reality, you can also call the official ROM as it shipped with your phone as "stock" (such as "returning your phone to stock"). Since HTC never intended the phone to run without Sense, it makes it confusing to use the word "stock" for AOSP. Better to just call it AOSP.
What a person likes better is purely a matter of personal preference. Everyone has different aesthetic tastes, and expectations on features and performance. So don't let anyone tell you that one ROM is "better" than another, and don't expect to be told that either. It like asking somebody to tell you what your favorite color is.
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AOSP refers to Android as it comes straight from Google. Some also refer to this as "vanilla" Android. From there, manufacturers often add their own "skin" to the OS to help differentiate themselves from the competition. HTC has the "Sense" skin, Samsung has TouchWiz, Motorola has Blur, and so on. The differences can range from diverging from the "vanilla" color layouts and icons, to completely replacing some of the built-in apps (launcher, browser, music player, camera, etc.) with their own manufacturer-proprietary apps.
Really, if you are looking at custom ROMs, you should think of them as being "Sense-based" and "AOSP-based" rather than "AOSP". The spirit of the AOSP-based ROMs is to remain loyal to the AOSP or vanilla feel. But most AOSP ROMs include a huge number of customizations, extra features, that calling them "AOSP" is a big disingenuous, when they are better called "AOSP-based".
Also, some will refer to AOSP as "stock" Android, but this is confusing. By "stock", they mean as Android comes from Google. But in reality, you can also call the official ROM as it shipped with your phone as "stock" (such as "returning your phone to stock"). Since HTC never intended the phone to run without Sense, it makes it confusing to use the word "stock" for AOSP. Better to just call it AOSP.
What a person likes better is purely a matter of personal preference. Everyone has different aesthetic tastes, and expectations on features and performance. So don't let anyone tell you that one ROM is "better" than another, and don't expect to be told that either. It like asking somebody to tell you what your favorite color is.
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I have always had the doubt of how do the AOSP based roms stand against Sense based roms in term of usability and stability? do thay function correctly and take full advantage of the One X hardware? It's not very clear (at least not to me) in most of the Rom's description.
korlinr said:
I have always had the doubt of how do the AOSP based roms stand against Sense based roms in term of usability and stability? do thay function correctly and take full advantage of the One X hardware? It's not very clear (at least not to me) in most of the Rom's description.
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If you take time to read through the threads a bit, you will find that they are plenty stable, and used by many as daily drivers. Many people find them faster and more usable than Sense based ROMs. But that is very subjective.
And honestly, I can flash a ROM, and be fully configured with all apps and settings in about 20 minutes. Why not just pick a few that look good, and try them? You can read all you want, but it won't tell you for certain whether you will like the ROM or not. Only way to really know, is to try them yourself.
Since all of the bugs haven't been ironed out in cm..you will probably find more stability on sense roms on this device...but say on the HTC inspire sense is very heavy and aosp would give you better battery
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Since all of the bugs haven't been ironed out in cm..you will probably find more stability on sense roms on this device...
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CM10.1 (Android 4.2) is in a fairly early phase, with some bugs. But CM10 (Android 4.1) has been very stable, for a very long time. As far as I know anyway, I'm almost entirely a Sense guy.
If you want to make an apples to apples comparison, there is no Sense based ROM that is Android 4.2 (they are all 4.1). So you are comparing a slightly buggy 4.2 AOSP ROM to one that doesn't even exist (Sense based 4.2). Or comparing the cutting edge to (literally) last year's model.
Again, it just goes back to the subjective nature of picking a ROM. There are probably hundreds of CM users here that will argue that AOSP performs better than Sense.
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CM10.1 (Android 4.2) is in a fairly early phase, with some bugs. But CM10 (Android 4.1) has been very stable, for a very long time. As far as I know anyway, I'm almost entirely a Sense guy.
If you want to make an apples to apples comparison, there is no Sense based ROM that is Android 4.2 (they are all 4.1). So you are comparing a slightly buggy 4.2 AOSP ROM to one that doesn't even exist (Sense based 4.2). Or comparing the cutting edge to (literally) last year's model.
Again, it just goes back to the subjective nature of picking a ROM. There are probably hundreds of CM users here that will argue that AOSP performs better than Sense.
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Yes .. I realize cm 10 is very stable..sorry I don't know what I was thinking with that post
I have used many AOSP based roms as my daily driver, including CM, AOKP, Jellybam, and King Kang. They have always stable and reliable for me. In saying that, ViperXL (which is Sense based) is also very reliable. It comes down to flashing a few and seeing what you prefer.
There are enough roms now that we have a good choice. Please tell us about yours.
I am using Avatar ROM and it is great. The themes are very cool.
I'm on SHOstock now and I'm liking it. I'm on it mainly because of the hardware features that are not implemented in the other ROMs yet such as the hover preview in apps like SMS and the IR blaster functionality. I really want to move to an AOSP ROM, but I don't want to lose some of the stock features.
Task650's AOKP rom, and Goldeneye are the only ones I've tried so far.
I love the pure Android experience and have always loved AOKP based roms. The customization is endless. Not too mention, its very, very stable, and everything works fine. The Goldeneye rom is based entirely on the i9505 stock rom and this runs very well, as all the samsung crap is gone.
But if you're looking for speed and performance and a 100% lag-free device, go with task650 AOKP rom.
Sorry folks,
"favorite" roms and "best" rom threads are synonymous and thus are not allowed as they spiral into arguments about what is best for one vs another.
Users are expected to read and learn from all the development threads and reviewing the FAQ'a bout the ROM's themselves.
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Hi everyone, I'm sorta new to Android and rom-flashing, so here are my questions:
Baseline Question: Which ROM is the best: Cyanogenmod, Paranoid Android, or AOKP?
So, I obviously googled this question and the same answer I keep getting is that each rom delivers a different user experience and that the answer depends on the person and that you should just try out each one. But recently I came to know of Pacman Rom, which claims to encompass all three of these roms (and more)...so now for my real question.. It seems super awesome that Pacman Rom encompasses all three of these roms, but if it's so good, why isn't everyone on it already? Meaning, is there any reason that I'm missing as to why some people prefer to stick to a particular one instead of this awesome-seeming rom? Just curious as to whether I should flash this or stay with Cyanogenmod.
I can imagine reasons like Pacman Rom may not be available for as wide a range of phones, etc., but any other reasons for why or why not? Thanks in advance guys!
My Phone Currently: Samsung Galaxy S3 T-999 4.1.2 Cyanogenmod 10.1
Carspeed360 said:
Hi everyone, I'm sorta new to Android and rom-flashing, so here are my questions:
Baseline Question: Which ROM is the best: Cyanogenmod, Paranoid Android, or AOKP?
So, I obviously googled this question and the same answer I keep getting is that each rom delivers a different user experience and that the answer depends on the person and that you should just try out each one. But recently I came to know of Pacman Rom, which claims to encompass all three of these roms (and more)...so now for my real question.. It seems super awesome that Pacman Rom encompasses all three of these roms, but if it's so good, why isn't everyone on it already? Meaning, is there any reason that I'm missing as to why some people prefer to stick to a particular one instead of this awesome-seeming rom? Just curious as to whether I should flash this or stay with Cyanogenmod.
I can imagine reasons like Pacman Rom may not be available for as wide a range of phones, etc., but any other reasons for why or why not? Thanks in advance guys!
My Phone Currently: Samsung Galaxy S3 T-999 4.1.2 Cyanogenmod 10.1
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The answer to this is really the same as your original question
"So, I obviously googled this question and the same answer I keep getting is that each rom delivers a different user experience and that the answer depends on the person and that you should just try out each one."
It's all personal taste and personal wants/needs. I suggest you read through the thread for the ROM in your device section and if it looks appealing to you then flash it and try it out. If you don't like it, you can always go back to what you were using or try out something else
Hello. I recently got brave enough to root my Verizon S3. I used Casual and it worked fantastic. Now, I'm looking to run a custom ROM. I tried a ton of different ROMs on my old Captivate, my wife's old Infuse, my Galaxy Pad 10.1, and Asus Transformer Infinity. So one thing I know is that I don't like AOSP. I want to stay with Touchwiz.
I've been browsing the development forums looking at ROMs. For some ROMs it's easy to tell if it's AOSP or Touchwiz. For others, not such much. So I was wondering if there was a list of Touchwiz based ROMs, or if maybe one could be created?
Just off the top of my head:
Bonestock
Jellybeans
Hyperdrive
MOAR
There are many others but the original post in each thread will indicate if it is or not. Look for 4.1.2, or the build number, ie. MF1.
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It will have be created it wouldn't take you only have to list the roms with mb1/mf1 firmware as its base.