So I after owning 2 Black S4's I now own my first white S4 and I can tell you that build quality seems much, much better with the white model. My 32GB S4 had a sunk in home button, which was annoying. It feels more responsive when its slightly elevated. My 32GB S4 also had the notorious headphone crackle and pop when the music was turned very loud. Whenever you pressed the phone to your ear, you would hear a creaking noise. This was annoying. Fortunately, I was able to exchange for the white 16GB, which seems much more solid and overall better. All S4's are definitely NOT made the same. I've noticed the white models seem to have better, more responsive home buttons than the black ones.
So what do you guys think about Samsung build quality?
But I'm good to go now. Rooted running Task650 AOKP rom. This rom makes the phone the beast it is.
I sold a white one that seemed to have no support structure for the glass near the home button. You could press it and the panel flexed passed the bezel. Haven't seen a black on do that out of all the ones I've sold. Also had a white ones bezel not pushed all the way in but also had that on a black one.
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I have a black one and could not be happier, I'd say it's hit or miss with the building quality I don't think it has anything to do with color
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I have a black one and could not be happier, I'd say it's hit or miss with the building quality I don't think it has anything to do with color
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I'd have to second that.
We have one of both. My wife has a white, and I have a 32 gb black. Not sure if they are different in build quality, but did notice her capacitive buttons are very easy to activate, almost too easy.
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So I after owning 2 Black S4's I now own my first white S4 and I can tell you that build quality seems much, much better with the white model. My 32GB S4 had a sunk in home button, which was annoying. It feels more responsive when its slightly elevated. My 32GB S4 also had the notorious headphone crackle and pop when the music was turned very loud. Whenever you pressed the phone to your ear, you would hear a creaking noise. This was annoying. Fortunately, I was able to exchange for the white 16GB, which seems much more solid and overall better. All S4's are definitely NOT made the same. I've noticed the white models seem to have better, more responsive home buttons than the black ones.
So what do you guys think about Samsung build quality?
But I'm good to go now. Rooted running Task650 AOKP rom. This rom makes the phone the beast it is.
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So let me get this straight. You had a black 32GB S4 that you traded in for a white 16GB S4? Are you nuts?
I have the black 16GB model (you can't get a 32GB S4 in Canada - Samsung Canada is saying they have no plans to release them) and have absolutely none of the issues you are seeing.
I've had two black and one white so far. No issues with any of them besides touchwiz of course.
Not seeing any differences.
My girlfriend and I both have the 16gb models. Hers in white, mine in black. I can't tell any difference between the build quality. Both home buttons are raised the same amount and take the same amount of force to push. I did notice that my S4 was a little snappier when closing and switching apps. I think this is just my experience in knowing how to turn off all the S-features. Just my two cents comparing the two.
No issues with my black 32GB model
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My first black s4 was exchanged due to a line under the glass and my 2nd one had a loose volume rocker. The 3rd one is pristine. I dont have any experience with white s4's though.
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My first black s4 was exchanged due to a line under the glass and my 2nd one had a loose volume rocker. The 3rd one is pristine. I dont have any experience with white s4's though.
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Could you explain what you mean by a line under the glass?
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Could you explain what you mean by a line under the glass?
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It looked like a scratch and would be quite visible under higher brightness. It is quite hard to explain.
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All black 16 and 32gb models here, all made in Korea and no QC issues to speak of.
The quality differs from sample to sample about as much as you would expect in a modern device.
The HTC One, OTOH, seems to vary much more and that is not good.
One thing you will want to do is remove all of the plastic sticker material. The camera and the Novatel wireless label are the most obvious. However there is a plastic sticker on the speaker grille (remove the back to get to it) and around the entire bezel there is a sticker. Run a fingernail along and you will catch the edge. Just get it started and you will get it.
It's much better without all those pesky stickers!
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I have been using the AT&T HTC One X for the last 3 days or so and would like to share my thoughts/review on this phone.
First of all a bit of a background - In the past I have used iPhone 3GS, Blackberry 9800, Palm Pre Plus, Atrix, Atrix2 and Samsung Galaxy S2 - all on AT&T network. SOme of these were used for just a few weeks before switching over to the next within the 30 days windows. The SGS2 has been my daily driver for the past 6 months or so and I have been fairly active installing custom ROMs and kernels from the xda forums.
I had decided to wait for the SGS3 but when I went to my local Sams club - they had a sample/fake model of the sprint SGS3 and my first thought after playing with it was - damn - this is just some cheapest piece of plastic ever used on a phone - it just looked terrible. Sitting next to it was the gray HOX and there was just no comparison build quality wise. Everything on the HOX oozes quality. So right then and there bought the HOX - still in my 30 days window so will play with a real SGS3 when it comes out and make the final decision.
Now - time for the review:
+ BUild quality - best of any android phone I have handled.
+ IPS screen is beautiful. COming from SGS2 the screen just looks awesome
+ loving Sense4. Touchwiz is just too black and dull. Like the brightness and the use of whites and light green on Sense
+ Battery life is really amazing (Xi40 ROM). My SGS2 barely lasts a full day with about 2-3 hrs screen on time. The HOX lasts a full day with some to spare even with 4 hrs screen time. This is unbelievable given the IPS screen (used auto brightness) and the 1.5GHz processor
+ Camera is pretty quick- better than SGS2
+ Higher resolution helps a lot - coming from SGS2
+ touch response/sensitivity is great compared to SGS2. Not sure about SGS3 but HOX is almost iphone like.
- Hate the recessed power button. Is a pain to find in the night/morning
- Size is a lil bit too big for my hands but getting used to it. The SGS2 size seems perfect for my hands. Power button placement worsens this
- Wish there was an sd card slot
- Stock Sense4 is pretty laggy - Switched to Xi40 ROM and its working flawlessly with absolutely zero lag - seriously!!!
- Bootloader unlock/rooting was a bit more tedious than Sammy phones but what the heck
- Multitasking really is bad. I am hoping some the devs here can fix that in the custom ROMs/kernels once the source is out.
In Summary - loving this phone - obviously with the custom ROM on it. Now if only I can find a good case which will not hide the beautiful exerior of the phone. Any suggestions? I want a case that adds covering on the buttons so they become easier to press but still not hide too much of the phone's exterior and not add too much bulk
Update1: forgot to mention....another positive about the IPs screen over amoled/pentile display....scrolling does not give you a headache....if you do not understand what I mean just try flick scrolling on sgs2
What do you mean by "iPhone-like"?
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What do you mean by "iPhone-like"?
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I believe he was talking about the smoothness and fluidity of the ui
^^^^yep....that's what I meant....e.g. the weight of scrolling and touch sensitivity. Typically on android if you flick scroll it will scroll real fast which is sometimes irritating....on the hoc if you flick scroll it is nicely dampened
Be careful what you wish for regarding a case that covers the power button. With the awkward placement of the button, adding more material over the top of it means you really have trouble mashing it down to get a response.
the case I'm using right now is the amzer shellster, and it is awesome. Even though it doesnt cover the buttons like you want, It maintains the beauty of the phone. It is also the only slim hard case that I know of that covers the camera so you can put down the phone without worrying about scratching the camera lens.
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the case I'm using right now is the amzer shellster, and it is awesome. Even though it doesnt cover the buttons like you want, It maintains the beauty of the phone. It is also the only slim hard case that I know of that covers the camera so you can put down the phone without worrying about scratching the camera lens.
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Great. Now I have to buy ANOTHER case. Thanks for that.
Q: Does the camera line up perfectly? Or does it seem like it was made for the international One X?
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Great. Now I have to buy ANOTHER case. Thanks for that.
Q: Does the camera line up perfectly? Or does it seem like it was made for the international One X?
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Yes, thanks for that. Lol.
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Great. Now I have to buy ANOTHER case. Thanks for that.
Q: Does the camera line up perfectly? Or does it seem like it was made for the international One X?
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I believe they make the Amzer Shellster for both International and XL versions. It should specify. I have the correct one and everything lines up perfect.
EDIT: Here's the one that I got:
http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-AMZ93808-Shellster-Cover-Holster/dp/B007XPPA1Y
Im still waiting for them to get the shellster in white in stock.
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I believe they make the Amzer Shellster for both International and XL versions. It should specify. I have the correct one and everything lines up perfect.
EDIT: Here's the one that I got:
http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-AMZ93808-Shellster-Cover-Holster/dp/B007XPPA1Y
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Sweeeet! And it's eligible for prime! Just ordered it
Will definitely order once they have it in white. thats slick! Love the way it leaves the top open.
I have been having issues with replacement Galaxy Nexus' having incorrect color calibration and I kept complaining to Verizon.
They offered to send me a different device, and considering the Galaxy S3 has better hardware, I was thinking of taking them up on the offer.
The only thing Im really holding out on before I make my final decision is for the dev community to get the bootloader unlocked.
So do you guys think I should stick with my Nexus or have Verizon send me a Galaxy s3?
UPDATE: After talking to multiple customer service reps, they told me the only thing that they could do for me was update me to the DROID RAZR...I told them that that is not a "comparable device" and all of the multiple service reps still wouldnt budge. They even went as far as to tell me that their system WILL NOT allow them to upgrade me to the Galaxy S3. Anyway, so I was fed up with the customer service B.S. and so I emailed their executive office. After about two days, I received an email from them asking for the account info and some contact info. They told me that under normal circumstances they wouldnt do this, but she told me the issue I was complaining about with my Galaxy Nexus was a know issue, but at the moment, they dont have a fix for it. She also told me that the customer service people were lying. That the system will let them do it, but it is just a little more difficult. The only thing that I am kind of knit picky about is that theyre sending me the blue one, because they dont have any white ones left, but its whatevs...at least I am getting a free phone and I won.
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I have been having issues with replacement Galaxy Nexus' having incorrect color calibration and I kept complaining to Verizon.
They offered to send me a different device, and considering the Galaxy S3 has better hardware, I was thinking of taking them up on the offer.
The only thing Im really holding out on before I make my final decision is for the dev community to get the bootloader unlocked.
So do you guys think I should stick with my Nexus or have Verizon send me a Galaxy s3?
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Even with the locked bootloader the s3 is still pretty amazing. It seems like everyday someone in the community is making something for this phone to make that much better. Ive never owned a nexus so i cant compare but im sure u would love this phone.
I upgraded from the GNex. You won't go wrong here. First, the TW interface is really nice in my opinion. The battery is insanely great and there was no custom kernel on the GNex that gave me even remotely the battery life I get now. The camera on this phone is amazing. It has a bigger display. Better processor. I say go for it you will not be disappointed.
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I upgraded from the GNex. You won't go wrong here. First, the TW interface is really nice in my opinion. The battery is insanely great and there was no custom kernel on the GNex that gave me even remotely the battery life I get now. The camera on this phone is amazing. It has a bigger display. Better processor. I say go for it you will not be disappointed.
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Agreed! :highfive:
I get a lother better signal and 4g in more places then I ever did on my gnex
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Thats a very good question. In my household we have both the S3 and the Nexus...and I cant say which one is better. I personally have the S3 and love it, even with the locked bootloader theres still soo much you can do. The Nexus is a fantastic phone on its own, but if you have the nexus and crave the development...then stay with it. Or find someone with a S3 and switch phones for couple days :laugh:
The final decision is yours, but:
While the Galaxy Nexus is a great phone, I feel if you have the opportunity, you should get the Galaxy S3. While the locked bootloader isn't it's greatest feature, it's roaring development is. There are devs out there working extremely hard to unlock the bootloader on this device. And even though the bootloader is locked, the XDA community has managed to flash custom roms/kernels onto the device using the awesome development of Kexec.
And even without root or any modification to it's firmware, Samsung's TouchWiz interface isn't too bad and it doesn't affect the phone's performance much either, because the phone itself is quite powerful.
However, if you want a phone that was made for development, then the Galaxy Nexus may be best for you.
So my next question is ...if I got it...Pebble Blue? or Marble White?
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So my next question is ...if I got it...Pebble Blue? or Marble White?
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We have both colours here, with a white Amzer Shellster case+holster for the white, a black set for the blue.
The white has more of a uniform, understated, contemporary aesthetic in any lighting, and almost feels iPodish in terms of first impression, but is far more approachable. That is, I feel current iPods are not only chunky (which is OK), but their thick metal band around the sides and boring uniformity make them look like pieces of industrial equipment with a white face tacked on. By contrast, the Galaxy S III in white presents as more of a fully sleek and "professional" device, overall. The white case we use keeps that overall feel relatively intact.
The pebble blue is brushed and offers different chroma depending upon the lighting and angle, so there's more interest in its somewhat variable presentation. You can't always pin down how it looks during daily use because it doesn't seem to uniformly reflect ambient light sources from the combination of its brushed colouring and rounded surfaces, which is kind of neat to me. There is a possible purplish hue that can come off the surrounding metal-looking edge and Home button at times, which I see as a positive: it adds to that meandering notion of its colour values and personality. Generally a darker phone, sometimes comes across as medium/medium-light in tint and even tone if light is hitting it squarely (and, depending on the type of light source).
My highly subjective impressions, at least. I can offer pics, if interested.
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ooofest said:
We have both colours here, with a white Amzer Shellster case+holster for the white, a black set for the blue.
The white has more of a uniform, understated, contemporary aesthetic in any lighting, and almost feels iPodish in terms of first impression, but is far more approachable. That is, I feel current iPods are not only chunky (which is OK), but their thick metal band around the sides and boring uniformity make them look like pieces of industrial equipment with a white face tacked on. By contrast, the Galaxy S III in white presents as more of a fully sleek and "professional" device, overall. The white case we use keeps that overall feel relatively intact.
The pebble blue is brushed and offers different chroma depending upon the lighting and angle, so there's more interest in its somewhat variable presentation. You can't always pin down how it looks during daily use because it doesn't seem to uniformly reflect ambient light sources from the combination of its brushed colouring and rounded surfaces, which is kind of neat to me. There is a possible purplish hue that can come off the surrounding metal-looking edge and Home button at times, which I see as a positive: it adds to that meandering notion of its colour values and personality. Generally a darker phone, sometimes comes across as medium/medium-light in tint and even tone if light is hitting it squarely (and, depending on the type of light source).
My highly subjective impressions, at least. I can offer pics, if interested.
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No need to attach pics, thankyou for the detailed analysis...I went and checked it out the the VZW store and I think if I switch to it Im getting marble white.
I still havent called Verizon about getting the S3...but now that the bootloader is unlocked I am going to...the only thing I am afraid of though is that they are going to tell me I can't get the S3 because it is more expensive than the nexus... I know I can fight the fact the specs on the RAZR are inferior to the Nexus, but how do I fight the specs on the Reazound if they try to offer that to me?
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I'm not sure they'll make that switch for you from a nexus to a s3
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I still havent called Verizon about getting the S3...but now that the bootloader is unlocked I am going to...the only thing I am afraid of though is that they are going to tell me I can't get the S3 because it is more expensive than the nexus... I know I can fight the fact the specs on the RAZR are inferior to the Nexus, but how do I fight the specs on the Reazound if they try to offer that to me?
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If you want to fight the specs on the Rezound, say the screen on the Rezound is "remarkably" smaller than that of your Galaxy Nexus. I put "remarkably" in quotes because you can stress that word when explaining the differences, even though the Gnex has only a .35inch gain on screensize compared to the Rezound. Screen size does play a factor when some people buy a phone, you could use that to your advantage.
I came from gnex an don't regret it one bit. I was hesitant because I flashed roms for the nexus all the time looking for speed and battery life. Guess what, this phone has that stock! I love it. Rooting an customs roms are just a nice bonus.
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Also bring up the NFC....
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Also bring up the NFC....
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To anyone else that will try this...dont bother...they wouldnt budge for me. They told me the Galaxy S3 was too new for them to give to me.
Beg to differ i *****ed and *****ed went threw 8gnexus and they finally approved the swap
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Beg to differ i *****ed and *****ed went threw 8gnexus and they finally approved the swap
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lmfao Jesus...
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Got my Droid Maxx last night as I ordered it from VZW a few days ago.
I was shocked to see the left side of the phone has a pretty significant gap. So much that when I squeeze the phone it comes together and makes a clicking/popping noise.
VZW is already sending a replacement as the local store doesn't have any in stock. The VZW salesperson at my local store also agreed that the phone should be gapless and not creak/crunch when touching the left side.
Unfortunately, I dont have a camera that is capable of taking a pic of it as the phone is black so its nearly impossible to see in a pic.
Anyone else seeing this issue ?
Not me. Glad are they fixing no questions asked.
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Yep definitely sounds like you got a flawed unit. Mine is gapless, silent, and solid as a brick. Good luck with your replacement.
My Maxx was perfect
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Got my Droid Maxx last night as I ordered it from VZW a few days ago.
I was shocked to see the left side of the phone has a pretty significant gap. So much that when I squeeze the phone it comes together and makes a clicking/popping noise.
VZW is already sending a replacement as the local store doesn't have any in stock. The VZW salesperson at my local store also agreed that the phone should be gapless and not creak/crunch when touching the left side.
Unfortunately, I dont have a camera that is capable of taking a pic of it as the phone is black so its nearly impossible to see in a pic.
Anyone else seeing this issue ?
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This is great news to me! Ha ha. No but really I have the exact same problem. And it does make the sound too. And the otterbox commuter case they gave me has a big gap on the rubber at the bottom by the back button. Guess I'll ask for a replacement?
FWIW I posted on the forums at Motorola and got a response from the forum manager so maybe they are going to investigate.
I certainly could not go two years (or even a month) with this issue. If replacement shows any sign of this problem then I will exchange for different phone.
I grow more attached to the Maxx every day but this creaking on a brand new device is killing the experience. With otterbox its even more pronounced and makes the phone feel hollow and cheap.
I will update as soon as replacement shows up tomorrow.
Surprised since this phone has a incredible build quality. The only thing I hate about this phone is the power button feels like crap that's it.
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After calling verizon I was sent to a corporate store to exchange. The ppl were all hesitant to go ahead and do it. I'm like really? I rarely return anything.
The notifications were all messed up not just the volume unsynced with the ring volume but it would only beep not play the ring tones.
After looking at a new in box maxx, I was dissatisfied. The gaps on it were worse than what I have now. So hopefully a software patch is released for the volumes.
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I had to return mine as the speakers came badly blown. I had the gap issue too I could see inside the phone. Not too impressed.
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I have been through 6 RAZR MAXX phones due to build quality. I am ready to get a MAXX tomorrow. Hope it is not like the RAZR was/is!
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Got Replacement... Same Issues!!!
Received replacement from VZW last night...
Same exact issue which leads me to believe this is in deed a build quality issue.
Both phones have the same gap between the back of the screen and the phone back. If you slightly squeeze the left side, you can see it moving and separating.
Both phones have a click/creak about half way up the left side.
I use an otterbox which unfortunately, changes from rubber to plastic right at the point the click happens and results in a hollow feeling.
Is it livable ? Yes, but it's really annoying.
There is also a lot of flex on the back of the phone (both the same).
Terrible. The other ones I looked at were even worse than mine.
Played with a new LG g2 today. Quadrant score of 16000 vs galaxy s4 12000 vs droid maxx at 8000. Beautiful display. Battery is 3000 mah. Can't beat the 199 price tag.
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Quite a few people are now complaining of the gap issue. Not to mention there is no way in hell this device is water resistant with the gaps.
Not to mention, the volume rocker is very loose and makes noise with the slightest touch. Probably due to the fact that it hides the SIM card holder and is very fragile.
People are complaining of light bleed at the bottom of the device.
And I have noticed that the capacitive buttons are very inconsistent in brightness compared to each other.
I was loving active notifications but at this point forget it. Time to exercise my Worry Free Guarantee.
I was lucky enough to get a tier 2 tech support at vzw to recommend return/exchange as well as noting it in my account.
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Quite a few people are now complaining of the gap issue. Not to mention there is no way in hell this device is water resistant with the gaps.
Not to mention, the volume rocker is very loose and makes noise with the slightest touch. Probably due to the fact that it hides the SIM card holder and is very fragile.
People are complaining of light bleed at the bottom of the device.
And I have noticed that the capacitive buttons are very inconsistent in brightness compared to each other.
I was loving active notifications but at this point forget it. Time to exercise my Worry Free Guarantee.
I was lucky enough to get a tier 2 tech support at vzw to recommend return/exchange as well as noting it in my account.
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What will you do? Swap for another maxx or change phones?
I love that it has capacitive buttons but hate that they don't dim like the s4 when viewing video.
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I have a very slightly gap on the top of mine, between the screen and bezel. Front the front facing camera to the left corner.
I noticed it within my 14 day window, but decided it wasn't worth it, to me, to bother with replacement.
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sorry you have those gaps, got my phone 2nd day it was out and it's perfect.
No build quality issues with mine, it's a tank, and it's heavy "Heavy is sign of reliability, and if it doesn't work, at least you can hit him with it" (said in a thick Russian accent) bonus points if you know what movie that is from
My first Maxx (RIP due to physical damage, my fault) had a small space and creak where you described, though only very slight. I asked on the G+ Droid Maxx forum and nobody else had the issue. My second Maxx is flawless.
just got my replacement device after the microphone on my original d.maxx died after 28 days.
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just got my replacement device after the microphone on my original d.maxx died after 28 days.
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i also had my mic die on my phone and got a replacement that's flawless. the mic issue was a pain for sure though.
I really like the phone and think the screen is fine in most areas...but it's very yellow. The whites aren't really whites and, compared to my HTC One, the difference is striking. Yes, I know the One has an extremely cold screen while the Nexus has a warm screen, but there has to be a happy medium here, right? I think this is clearly just a calibration problem that can be fixed with a software tweak, so does anyone have any ideas? It's literally the only thing I'm not happy about.
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I really like the phone and think the screen is fine in most areas...but it's very yellow. The whites aren't really whites and, compared to my HTC One, the difference is striking. Yes, I know the One has an extremely cold screen while the Nexus has a warm screen, but there has to be a happy medium here, right? I think this is clearly just a calibration problem that can be fixed with a software tweak, so does anyone have any ideas? It's literally the only thing I'm not happy about.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it). I've seen this on many devices over the last few years, from ASUS Transformers to iPads to the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The only device I've bought where I didn't have at least one with a yellow screen was my Nexus 4, and I'm pretty sure I was just lucky the first time out--plenty of people complained about this on their Nexus 4s.
I think it's some kind of manufacturing variability, with the intended design specs (and software calibration) to have truer whites and deeper colors (washed out UI colors go along with the yellow tint). Personally, I can't accept it--the problem also shows itself as a lack of contrast in UI elements, such as the browser address bar against the background gray, or text fields in Hangouts. On the yellowish displays, there's almost no contrast, and so the fields can actually be hard to make out sometimes.
Thing is, if you never have two devices to hold side-by-side, then you may never notice the issue. You'll just think that colors are washed out, because that's more obvious by itself than the off-color whites.
I went through four iPad 3s before getting one with true whites, and more Nexus 7s and Nexus 10s than I'll admit to. I just hate it, personally, and honestly the Nexus 5 hasn't been so great so far that I'll go through the same number to get one that's acceptable. I have a replacement on its way (my audio output is also a bit distorted), and if that one's the same then I might give up on this year's Nexus and get an LG G2 instead.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it). I've seen this on many devices over the last few years, from ASUS Transformers to iPads to the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The only device I've bought where I didn't have at least one with a yellow screen was my Nexus 4, and I'm pretty sure I was just lucky the first time out--plenty of people complained about this on their Nexus 4s.
I think it's some kind of manufacturing variability, with the intended design specs (and software calibration) to have truer whites and deeper colors (washed out UI colors go along with the yellow tint). Personally, I can't accept it--the problem also shows itself as a lack of contrast in UI elements, such as the browser address bar against the background gray, or text fields in Hangouts. On the yellowish displays, there's almost no contrast, and so the fields can actually be hard to make out sometimes.
Thing is, if you never have two devices to hold side-by-side, then you may never notice the issue. You'll just think that colors are washed out, because that's more obvious by itself than the off-color whites.
I went through four iPad 3s before getting one with true whites, and more Nexus 7s and Nexus 10s than I'll admit to. I just hate it, personally, and honestly the Nexus 5 hasn't been so great so far that I'll go through the same number to get one that's acceptable. I have a replacement on its way (my audio output is also a bit distorted), and if that one's the same then I might give up on this year's Nexus and get an LG G2 instead.
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Interesting. Yesterday I was actually angry and posted the phone on Swappa. Today I've been much nicer toward the subject. But if it's really due to the manufacturing process, I might just swap it for a Moto X. Either way, I'm not sure. I still need to decide.
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Interesting. Yesterday I was actually angry and posted the phone on Swappa. Today I've been much nicer toward the subject. But if it's really due to the manufacturing process, I might just swap it for a Moto X. Either way, I'm not sure. I still need to decide.
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Best thing would be to wait for the dev's and see what they come up with. They did great with the N4, so I'm hoping it'll be the same on the N5. I do think the display is incredibly warm. Having it side by side with my N4 is striking.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it)
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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Yes, thanks, you're right--color temp does go through yellow as it gets warmer before getting to red. So, thanks for the correction.
That said, it's not a _consistent_ thing, or at least hasn't been in the past with other devices. I have a Nexus 10, for example, that is much colder (with white whites, not blueish, so I'm calling it right in the middle) than many others that I tried out side-by-side. It also seems to get better with given devices as the manufacturing process goes on--for example, it was a problem early in the lifecycle of the iPad 3 but then became consistently over time (if forum complaints about it can be taken as evidence).
So, personally, I think that it's simply very difficult to make consistent LCD panels with these resolutions and at these price points. Perhaps someone like LG does a better job of quality control in making their higher-priced G2 than they do screens for their Nexus 5; I haven't read about this being a problem with the LG G2's screen, which I think is similar technology.
Anyways, it definitely makes an impact on the quality of the experience. I might be much more sensitive to it than others, and some people might actually prefer their screen warmer--although I wonder if they would if they hold it next to a screen that has truer whites. Really, the difference in contrast is what's most striking, to me at least.
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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Oh, and, I think you're right about the brightness levels as well-it does seem to get a touch better when the screen is brighter.
this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
Here's a really good article discussing what's going on here: http://www.eizo.com/global/library/basics/color_temperature_on_an_LCD_monitor/
Look at about 3/4 down the page, they have examples that demonstrate what we're seeing quite nicely. Not only are whites more yellow, but to my eyes colors wash out the warmer the display.
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this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
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This guy is right. Give it a week and it will get better. Not perfect, but it won't be as yellow.
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this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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You're right , when it's a glue problem usually there's just spots, not a solid yellow tone over the screen, so what can we do? try to exchange the phone, are there nexus 5 with colder screen or are they all so yellow?
I had a galaxy nexus with a terribly yellow screen, let me tell it NEVER got better , even after months of use :crying:
This video shows the difference between the N4 and N5. Wait until it gets to the browser speed comparison, you can see the screen is yellower on the N5 and the UI contrast is less. Note that the apparent difference on mine is much greater, so either this is variation or the video mutes the difference.
http://fullyc.com/watch-speed-test-every-google-nexus-phone-see-wonders-nexus-5/
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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You mean with new batches of the phone?
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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Fixed by Google or by a custom ROM?
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Fixed by Google or by a custom ROM?
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both
Chad_Petree said:
You mean with new batches of the phone?
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Probably not. I don't think anything is wrong with the screens of our phones. They're just calibrated wrong by Google or LG.
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Comparing my Nexus 5 by eye to my calibrated (sRGB, 6500k white point) monitor, the Nexus 5 has a very slight blue push. The Nexus 4, however, is INCREDIBLY blue. Like 9300k blue. If you're used to the Nexus 4, the Nexus 5 will look yellow, but it's the Nexus 4 that is out of whack in this case.
Return it. No yellows here.
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Return it. No yellows here.
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Could you post pictures comparing it to other phones ? Your laptop maybe ?
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I am on my third htc one m8 due to quality issues. The first had scratches on the back out of the box. I exchanged it for a new gunmetal m8 that had a HORRIBLE RATTLE! The power button Rattled? I wish I had delt with a few sratches. So I too that one back and went to best buy and got a Gold m8. It has the best power button out of all 3. The volume rocker is a lil looser but doesn't rattle. Never wanted a gold one but Im afraid to exchange this one for a gunmetal m8.
What do u think about the gold? Also why is HTC horrible with stuff like this? Samsung is the best! You can pull 10 Samsung S5's and put them on a table and they will all be the same.
Please post questions in the q and a.
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Yeah HTC needs to work on quality control and get to Apple standards with their metal build. They were much better this time around compared to the m7 though.. that phone had huge gaps
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sony has more worse quality
before all my htc phone don't have any problem
but sony all three I have all with problem
Gold is gaudy.
I think this is a luck of the draw type of thing I haven't heard half the problems I did about the release of the m7
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I agree luck of the draw. I have gotten the highest quadrant scores with this gold one. quite noticeably better! I stay steady at 61fps copared to 59. I want a gunmetal tho. maybe I need to deal with gold.
If I damage the phone will the insurance let you change colors? I don't think they would even have gold because its best buy only
I must just be lucky. When the HTC Rezound rolled out, I was an early adopter (bought one on Black Friday, right after the release), and I never had a single issue with that phone. I recently upgraded to the M8 (Gunmetal Gray), and it's perfect. I had a M7 for all of 36 hours, and I returned it for the M8, but not because there were any issues with the phone (I didn't notice any issues with fit/finish)... I just wanted the newer device, and the sdcard slot.
And yes, the gold is cheesy! They only did it because CrApple did it. There's a reason we have the M8: because it's NOT an iphone, and it IS a better device! Who wants to be a locked-down, herd-following fanboi?
I have the gold one myself and I like it. In some lighting it looks sliver and in pure sunlight it looks like it has a pinkish tint to it which looks pretty sick looking, Also no faults with it. Actually no faults with any electronic thing Ive ever owned.
I haven't noticed any problems like that. What I have noticed like some others is the speaker grills could've been fished better. I keep mine in an Otter Box which kinda stinks by hiding the beauty of the phone but because of the phone length I can't find a pouch type holder for my belt.
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