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Oleophobic coating, eh?

The evidence, after a week...
I can't say that's not disappointing. Has yours worn off?

same thing here after 2 weeks

mine has not worn off [yet]. still looks great.

Glad i put a screen protector on mine the minute i took it out of the box.. that looks bad.. id deff take mine back if it started doing that..

You guys aren't using any strong solvents to clean your devices are you? (even though technically, it shouldn't be dissolving)

Mine still looks great too had it since launch

Wow that sicks. I have had mine since launch and have no problem. Making me want to buy a zagg though after seeing this post

There was a thread about this a while back, This should NOT be happening and you should exchange your device

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You guys aren't using any strong solvents to clean your devices are you? (even though technically, it shouldn't be dissolving)
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Nope, I'm just using my hand or a soft cloth that came with my iPhone way back when. No liquid whatsoever.
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There was a thread about this a while back, This should NOT be happening and you should exchange your device
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I agree. The problem we now have is, well, if I go back and exchange, what potential problems will the next phone have? In all honesty, the smudging is not an issue when the screen is on. What the heck..I'll replace it tmrw

allen099 said:
I agree. The problem we now have is, well, if I go back and exchange, what potential problems will the next phone have? In all honesty, the smudging is not an issue when the screen is on. What the heck..I'll replace it tmrw
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this issue seems isolated, my phones screen is nothing but pristine, but really it cant hurt to exchange

Been dreading this happening but mine seems fine so far after cleaning regularly with micro fibre cloth.
I can't say my phone has had heavy use though, hasn't even been out of the house yet!

mine is still pristine I just use the nexus 1 pouch. Every time I slide it out its perfect.
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junkiehyjinx said:
mine is still pristine I just use the nexus 1 pouch. Every time I slide it out its perfect.
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How well does this fit the nexus s? I'd like something similar, the pouch I used for the dhd was just brilliant but I've not seen an equivalent yet for the nexus s.

Fits perfect for me.
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I tried my N1 pouch on the NS... the NS is just too big for it. When I slide the N1 pouch over the NS, it's so tight that the volume buttons are being pressed as I put it on. Oh and it sticks out a bit at the bottom lol.

I use my old g1 pouch. Fits perfectly.
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No wearing off of the coating on mine. Heck, I didn't even know the phone had the oleophobic coating. Glad to see it does. My phone is constantly in my hand being used since first day of launch.
Sounds like you have a defective one.
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mine is still pristine I just use the nexus 1 pouch. Every time I slide it out its perfect.
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Hey, good idea. I think I used to put my i9000 Galaxy S into the N1 pouch, but it was just a bit of a stretch. I may try to find the N1 pouch for that added protection in the pocket against keys and change.

Why worry about a pouch? I had one for my N1 and it worked great! But then I learned of BestSkinsEver. The one for the NS is perfect, it even covers up the camera lens! There is no spot uncovered and exposed to the possibility of damage from keys, change, whatever. Take a look at the pics. Cant even tell its on.

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Why worry about a pouch? I had one for my N1 and it worked great! But then I learned of BestSkinsEver. The one for the NS is perfect, it even covers up the camera lens! There is no spot uncovered and exposed to the possibility of damage from keys, change, whatever. Take a look at the pics. Cant even tell its on.
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Wow, this looks really nice. I am not exchanging my phone, waiting for a new one to come in just because an alleged coating on the screen.
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Why worry about a pouch? I had one for my N1 and it worked great! But then I learned of BestSkinsEver. The one for the NS is perfect, it even covers up the camera lens! There is no spot uncovered and exposed to the possibility of damage from keys, change, whatever. Take a look at the pics. Cant even tell its on.
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xoom built quality?

i've had my motorola xoom for about 1 month already, purchased on may 19th from bestbuy. i love the tablet, but does your xoom creek on the bottom right when you push the glass down?? i should of paid for the extended warrenty.

Nope, is it noticeable during use?

No. How hard are you pushing?

Absolutely not. Extended warranty? The manufacturer's warranty is 1 year!

I've seen this before, you'll have to call Moto and they'll send you a box to send it back to them, should take 4/5 days from the day you send it to when you get it back. They send you an overnight box, will work on it/process it for a day or two and then send it back overnight.

Mine has absolutely no creaking with moderate pressure. However, how hard are you pushing down? All tablets will have some flex where the glass meets the metal due to the rubber grommet and glue's flexing. Just don't abuse it by testing it too much, and you'll probably be fine.

Quality?
Mine reached Tonka status in my book when it fell down the stairs hit the pavement and is still working like a champ.

Hi,
I also had the same problem, but on the left corner (when the Moto logo is on the top). Voiding the warranty, I opened the Xoom and push back the back cover, and now it seems better. However, I don't try to push it anymore. I also have my Xoom in a case.
I don't recommend you to open your Xoom unless you know what you do.
Regards,

if you put your thumb on the bottom right corner and your index finger in the back and squeeze a little. it creeks. thanks for heads up on the warranty. i will contact motorola.

Be careful checking for this. The LCD connecting tabs are probably really delicate. There's currently a thread about a line on someones screen (-presumably not from squishing his xoom).

jdavid_t said:
Hi,
I also had the same problem, but on the left corner (when the Moto logo is on the top). Voiding the warranty, I opened the Xoom and push back the back cover, and now it seems better. However, I don't try to push it anymore. I also have my Xoom in a case.
I don't recommend you to open your Xoom unless you know what you do.
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HUGE Cojones

Absolutely no "creek" or "creeking." This is a very well built piece of hardware. Materials used are very high quality and the sheer weight sets it apart from other tablets. Could it be thinner/lighter, absolutely, but it would probably lose some of it's build quality and feel.

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Absolutely no "creek" or "creeking."
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... or even "creaking", huh?!

This survived an accidental 4 feet concrete drop, face first. Not a scratch and still working. No creaking sound or whatever btw.
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... or even "creaking", huh?!
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Congratulations on your 324th post!

fondoo said:
if you put your thumb on the bottom right corner and your index finger in the back and squeeze a little. it creeks. thanks for heads up on the warranty. i will contact motorola.
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Same mine, I think I will buy a cover

I bought the "Official" cover from Motorola, and it's pretty cool. A bit expensive, but it functions as a stand for Xoom.

i also am using the motorola portfolio case and pushing the xoom in and out of the case might be the reason why the glass creeks on the bottom right. pushing it every time to get it behind the tabs to hold it down.

talk about fast service. i contacted motorola online chatting with customer service. they shipped me a box the next following day. i shipped the xoom on 8/3 and i got it back on 8/8. thats a very fast turn around time. they gave me a new tablet.

**** me right, I am now having this issue. I have never ever dropped my xoom and i have always left it in a case (first Motorolas official case and now a leather case) what should I do? I still have warranty but I don't want to return it because I have rooted and put in custom rom. The Creek sound is on the left side exactly where the volume rockers are located. Why is this even happening? I have never dropped it and I take care of it just like a ****ing baby

Twisted nexus 5

Hi guys.
I have a nexus 5 which I got at launch, and on the whole really like it. one thing that I have noticed is that the phone never lies flat. It is ever so twisted which means (using a case) I can never type with it flat on a surface. I bought it through the Google play store in the UK. Is this something that people have heard about? Can I get it swapped for another one? Apart from that it works well. Thanks.
Nick
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it doesnt lie flat for typing because of the camera. it is not twisted.

I know that the camera protrudes somewhat, but if I lie it screen down it is not flat, and rocks. With the case on, it has little feet to make it flat, but it never is.
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Tried taking the case off? The cheap cases are not made perfectly.

Not the case. It happens with just the phone. I can slightly twist it in the opposite direction and it is good for a couple of minutes, but it inevitably goes back to its chosen shape.
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nickb23 said:
I know that the camera protrudes somewhat, but if I lie it screen down it is not flat, and rocks. With the case on, it has little feet to make it flat, but it never is.
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mine is flat, screen down.
you still mentioned never typing on it a flat surface, hence my comment about the camera causing it to rock.

The case I have for it has little feet at each corner so if the nexus was flat, I would be able to type on a flat surface without rocking due to the camera lens being a mm or 2 off the table. So do you think I should return it, and would they accept it as a bonefide return?
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Take the case off and place the phone face down on a flat surface. If it sits flat the phone is fine and the case is bent. If it still rocks then you might have a case with Google to RMA

Thanks Eddy. As I have said previously I have tried it with the case off. It does not sit flat screen down. The case is perfectly flat, but due to it being soft rubber, it twists just like the phone. I will contact Google for an RMA.
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Weird any photos?
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I can confirm mine has this issue as well lol.
i laid my flat face down on a flat desk surface and it wobbles from 2 corners diagonally from each other but not from the other 2 corners.
so strange. never noticed it before
its probably because i put mine in my back pocket and sit down sometimes. no biggie

Thanks nextelbuddy. Its just one of those things that annoys me. I am gonna see if they will replace it as it does seem to be a manufacturing issue, not a back picket issue
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I'm seeing this too on my one N5.
Slight twist that is only seen laying screen down.
Not sure this is a RMA, my phone is around two weeks old, going to check buddies at work tonight and verify if his is same before making a decision on this.
WR
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WarRaven said:
I'm seeing this too on my one N5.
Slight twist that is only seen laying screen down.
Not sure this is a RMA, my phone is around two weeks old, going to check buddies at work tonight and verify if his is same before making a decision on this.
WR
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I messaged buddy, he tested, same slight twist.
WR
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I have a launch day model, and it's been a problem for me. Rocks with the screen facing down between the corner the camera lens is and the corner diagonal to it.
I RMA'ed back in December, slightly better, but still had some wobble to it. Ended up keeping my original phone and got a case that doesn't have "feet" (case that's curved itself) so I don't even notice it anymore.

I have the same experience. Got my first N5 last year as soon as it became available in the Netherlands, noticed the wobble about 1 month later because I bought a case (Spigen slim armor) which cancels out the effect of the protruding camera lens on the backside, and noticed the wobbling while texting. First thought it was the case that caused it, took the case off and tested with the screen down: distinct warping on a diagonal line that runs from the camera lens corner to the microphone corner.
Decided to RMA it at the beginning of this month, and got a new one last Friday. I checked the serial number, it's definitely a later batch than my earlier N5. Of course I tested it as soon as I got out of the packaging: perfectly flat! But this evening after only a couple days of use, I noticed the wobble had returned. Not as much as with my previous N5, but still noticeable.
I can only conclude this phone's body is extremely sensitive to warping, which seems to be caused by simply carrying it in your pocket (like I do with all my phones since 1996). It is the first one ever that suffers from warping. It seems most if not all people who experience this issue report warping on the exact same diagonal line. This indicates a design flaw, which is apparently not yet solved in recent batches.
As much as I love Nexus phones, I'm seriously thinking of replacing the N5 for a different one with better build quality because every time I use my phone on a flat surface it annoys the hell out of me. And it certainly will not be an LG again.

Zepius said:
it doesnt lie flat for typing because of the camera. it is not twisted.
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So helpful!

i have this.. & no wobble -
Spigen Slim Armor case (black) for the Nexus 5

j'vai said:
i have this.. & no wobble -
Spigen Slim Armor case (black) for the Nexus 5
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+1 for that. I have the same case
Tapatalk-kal küldve az én Nexus 5-el

Put a perfectly straight ruler on top of your screen. Mine is flat.

I used the spigen slim armor on a previous N5 I had and it did have the wobble. However, seeing as it might be a common issue, I would say think about it before you RMA. It's possible your replacement will have the same issue, or even a different issue that you will notice after you send this one back. I RMA'd a phone for the button rattle issue which seems like a minuscule issue for most people, but it was annoying for me. It seems like this is similar to you as the button rattle was for me. But just letting you know.

Dropped my Moto X Pure for the 100000x time. [TLDR: Broke :( ]

So today i have finally broke my phone I am currently phoneless until my replacement screen comes in so i will be going phoneless from here until atleast 4/20!! So i would like to describe what happened. Usually this phone is a tank and i can drop it 1 million times without it breaking until today happened. I was already having a really bad day i woke up late in the morning and almost missed my bus. i went to school looking like trash and then i end up going through the whole day with a really bad headache. I had to deal with a horrible mat teacher who gave me a (no joke) 66.60 for the marking period. half the class failed. So whatever i dealt with her then i went through my day until i was in my last period class. i was wearing gym shorts today so my pockets were really loose and i had my phone in my right pocket. I was sitting in a chair that was 2 feet off the ground and BAM my phone smashes into the floor. At this point I'm like "oh crap its done" so i flip it over and there was only a tiny crack in the top left hand corner so im like oh okay no biggy I can deal with that. That wasn't the worst of it. The screen powered on perfectly fine nothing looked wrong however only one half of the touch screen worked. Touching the screen anywhere under the power button wouldn't work. Running a DPI of 420 puts 2 essential things right in that exact area (dpi wont matter for the second thing) 1. My lock password is toast so i cant unlock my phone 2. even if i could unlock my phone (some cases i was able to unlock my phone but it works for 5 seconds then stops) the nav bar lives in that zone so im screwed. I just find it funny how a tiny drop can be so fatal and disable half a screen while i drop my phone daily from many different heights and thee wort it got was a scratch. I'm curious what are your drop stories?????
PS. if you don't see me participate in the threads I usually stalk its because I prefer to browse and post to XDA from XDA Labs. The website sucks.
I have repaired my phone and ordered the black dualpro or whatever its called case by insipio I ended up getting it for $25 should be here in a few days the company who ships it is very reliable

photos to follow within the week

Same thing happened to me. But replacing the screen on these is really easy, provided you get the screen/digitizer and frame assembly. Ijust did mine last week. Now i wont take off the case again. I have never cracked a screen until this phone. But up and going again.

planedoc said:
Same thing happened to me. But replacing the screen on these is really easy, provided you get the screen/digitizer and frame assembly. Ijust did mine last week. Now i wont take off the case again. I have never cracked a screen until this phone. But up and going again.
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Yeah i noticed how easy it is! i should be getting my replacement display (with frame) and phone tools anywhwere between now and may 1st

WelcomeToTheSkye said:
Yeah i noticed how easy it is! i should be getting my replacement display (with frame) and phone tools anywhwere between now and may 1st
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Can you link from where u ordered your screen ?

Simple lesson: keep it in a case
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Jay794 said:
Simple lesson: keep it in a case
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Maybe if you just got black or something. Some of us customized them in Moto maker or skinned them. It would be useless to cover it up and I don't like the clear cases. Sure you have to be careful but you really should even with a case. The thing is accidents happen and a case isn't a guarantee that the phone won't break anyways.

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Simple lesson: keep it in a case
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If only they weren't so ugly for this phone. Good thing I take care of my stuff...

@WelcomeToTheSkye Sorry to hear about your phone. And your class. I was so scared I was gonna drop my MXP until I got a case. I was expecting the rubber on the back to be grippy but mine is slippery compared to my old moto E and the metal makes it worse. If you'd like a case recommendation, I have the Diztronic case and the Incipio Octane. They're both good. The octane looks better because it lets you back material show through and it adds more grip, but the headphone port cutout isn't big enough for my ATH-M50s
The Diztronic is really really nice. It just doesn't add as much grip. The buttons are also really easy to press. It's the one I usually use.

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i have never been a case person... i break all the cases i ever get... plus all the cases (beside the incipio brand) suck for this phone

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@WelcomeToTheSkye Sorry to hear about your phone. And your class. I was so scared I was gonna drop my MXP until I got a case. I was expecting the rubber on the back to be grippy but mine is slippery compared to my old moto E and the metal makes it worse. If you'd like a case recommendation, I have the Diztronic case and the Incipio Octane. They're both good. The octane looks better because it lets you back material show through and it adds more grip, but the headphone port cutout isn't big enough for my ATH-M50s
The Diztronic is really really nice. It just doesn't add as much grip. The buttons are also really easy to press. It's the one I usually use.
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Yeah i might end up going with the incipio duo thingy lol the one with two layers soon... im just not a case person... thanks for the recommendations

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i have never been a case person... i break all the cases i ever get... plus all the cases (beside the incipio brand) suck for this phone
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I got a pretty nice looking carbon fibre look case off eBay for less than £5 and it's saved my phone no end of times, if you go caseless and your phone breaks you only have yourself to blame

Wallet cases are also a great way to protect your phone/screen. I looked around on Amazon for a while and the only well reviewed one was the one by a company called J&D. I purchased it in turquoise and paired it with the Pleson tempered glass screen protector and the only downside is that all tempered glass protectors for this phone come up a little on the sides due to the curved screen but otherwise this is a protective and attractive combination.
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WelcomeToTheSkye said:
So today i have finally broke my phone I am currently phoneless until my replacement screen comes in so i will be going phoneless from here until atleast 4/20!! So i would like to describe what happened. Usually this phone is a tank and i can drop it 1 million times without it breaking until today happened. I was already having a really bad day i woke up late in the morning and almost missed my bus. i went to school looking like trash and then i end up going through the whole day with a really bad headache. I had to deal with a horrible mat teacher who gave me a (no joke) 66.60 for the marking period. half the class failed. So whatever i dealt with her then i went through my day until i was in my last period class. i was wearing gym shorts today so my pockets were really loose and i had my phone in my right pocket. I was sitting in a chair that was 2 feet off the ground and BAM my phone smashes into the floor. At this point I'm like "oh crap its done" so i flip it over and there was only a tiny crack in the top left hand corner so im like oh okay no biggy I can deal with that. That wasn't the worst of it. The screen powered on perfectly fine nothing looked wrong however only one half of the touch screen worked. Touching the screen anywhere under the power button wouldn't work. Running a DPI of 420 puts 2 essential things right in that exact area (dpi wont matter for the second thing) 1. My lock password is toast so i cant unlock my phone 2. even if i could unlock my phone (some cases i was able to unlock my phone but it works for 5 seconds then stops) the nav bar lives in that zone so im screwed. I just find it funny how a tiny drop can be so fatal and disable half a screen while i drop my phone daily from many different heights and thee wort it got was a scratch. I'm curious what are your drop stories?????
PS. if you don't see me participate in the threads I usually stalk its because I prefer to browse and post to XDA from XDA Labs. The website sucks.
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Make sure you head over to https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-X-Pure-Moto-X-Style/bd-p/449 before having Moto Mobility work on it. There's some disagreement over whether it's a scam or negligence, but either way you're in for a lot of trouble.
I don't use a case either because it makes the phone too large for a pocket. Too bad Moto didn't put a rim around the glass like every other Chinese and Japanese phone has. I guess they wanted the iPhone look with a minimalist white face and a cracked screen.

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Make sure you head over to https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-X-Pure-Moto-X-Style/bd-p/449 before having Moto Mobility work on it. There's some disagreement over whether it's a scam or negligence, but either way you're in for a lot of trouble.
I don't use a case either because it makes the phone too large for a pocket. Too bad Moto didn't put a rim around the glass like every other Chinese and Japanese phone has. I guess they wanted the iPhone look with a minimalist white face and a cracked screen.
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I repaired it myself! Everything works perfectly...
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Im having the same issue,Dropped the phone bought a replacement screen since motorola wants to charge me 250 bucks JUST FOR THE SCREEN but the worst part about all of this is when i removed the phone back i couldnt remove the screws because most of them are stripped :'(. so now im stuck with this phone like this and i dont want to buy a whole new one cause im poor.

pabel101 said:
Im having the same issue,Dropped the phone bought a replacement screen since motorola wants to charge me 250 bucks JUST FOR THE SCREEN but the worst part about all of this is when i removed the phone back i couldnt remove the screws because most of them are stripped :'(. so now im stuck with this phone like this and i dont want to buy a whole new one cause im poor.
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Same thing happened to me I stripped 6/20 of the screws... Turns out if you rip the screen off by getting a screwdriver under it you can still the stripped screws out of the back frame. It doesn't need all 20 screws it needs the one to hold the motherboard to the screen and at least 8 to keep it in place
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pabel101 said:
Im having the same issue,Dropped the phone bought a replacement screen since motorola wants to charge me 250 bucks JUST FOR THE SCREEN but the worst part about all of this is when i removed the phone back i couldnt remove the screws because most of them are stripped :'(. so now im stuck with this phone like this and i dont want to buy a whole new one cause im poor.
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Everybody says this so I'm betting Leno glued the screws in. It's fixable if it's into plastic. Lift the edge of the screw head with a knife tip as you turn it. Once it's out, clean the threads. Dip a thin wire into plastic welding glue (modeling and pipe glue works) and wet the inside of the screw hole. Clear out any excess glue. Let the glue dry somewhere warm for at least an hour. The screws should fit now.

Can you post a link to the replacement you got? I bought one of the higher priced ones on ebay and have had three with screen issues. The seller just wants to refund me at this point, so I need to find one that will not have light bleed, dead pixels and an unresponsive screen. Thanks in advance!

I am not recommending anyone do this and am not responsible if you mess your phone up. but this worked For my stripped screw. Replaced my screen today. One screw stopped I drilled the head of the screw out. I used a left handed bit because you drill in reverse with these and if the bit grabs it may unscrew. May but didn't. It made me very nervous but worked. And the part of the screw that was left in didn't matter since I bought the screen with the bezzle/frame. And I had a extra screw same size. It was Philips head but worked. There is a good chance if you try to drill out your stripped screws you will completely brake your phone. But there is that small chance for success?

Anyone upgrading from the original Galaxy Fold?

If anyone currently owns the original Galaxy Fold, I am interested to hear about your experience regarding durability.
Assuming you've owned this device around a year, how did the screen hold up, did you have to be stupidly careful when handling it?
The Fold 2 looks like a much more capable and durable device, so if the original Fold survived well it gives me confidence in buying one and using it like any other smartphone.
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I'd wander down to the OG section, there are a couple thread that touch on durability, started one of them myself just a month or so before this one launched.

krabman said:
I'd wander down to the OG section, there are a couple thread that touch on durability, started one of them myself just a month or so before this one launched.
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Yeah I did check that out. Seems that the original has turned out more durable (for most) than was originally believed.
I just watched a Youtube video from Flossy Carter, if anyone can prove the Galaxy Fold would take some everyday abuse, it would be him. So good news so far!
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I've had both
I had an original fold for about 6 months before I upgraded yesterday to the new version. I had zero issues with reliability or durability with the original phone. I was only using a d brand skin, not even a case, for most of the time I had the phone, and I found it to have no problems with the infrequent times when I dropped it. I am not very hard on phones, but I don't baby them either. The only reason I upgraded was because I was using an unlocked Att phone on Verizon and I found it impossible to get android updates. Frankly, I did not even have a problem with the size of the outside screen, as I was usually using it for quick looks at whatever. The new phone feels a little more solid, though the first version was fine as well. The hinge DOES feel more substantial, which I like. Over all it is great, but I thought the same thing about the original. If I had been able to get updates I would not have upgraded.

Just sent my old Fold back to Sammy to get the $800 promo

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Just sent my old Fold back to Sammy to get the $800 promo
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I did the trade in also, but in the UK rather than the US. Did you get shipped additional packaging and shipping label to return the original Fold?
I didn't receive the shipping label with my order, and the tiny box shipped with the Fold 2 doesn't fit the original. The FAQ states that if you can't find the shipping label or lost it, you can reprint from your order, which I can't find anywhere, so have resorted to emailing support to see if the can print another one.
Wanted to know if anyone else that traded in was missing their returns label or just me.

Took a few hours after getting the phone and then I got the label in the email. They never ship a box. I usually just put the phone only (no box or charges) in a generic box, slap the label and ship it out

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I had an original fold for about 6 months before I upgraded yesterday to the new version. I had zero issues with reliability or durability with the original phone. I was only using a d brand skin, not even a case, for most of the time I had the phone, and I found it to have no problems with the infrequent times when I dropped it. I am not very hard on phones, but I don't baby them either. The only reason I upgraded was because I was using an unlocked Att phone on Verizon and I found it impossible to get android updates. Frankly, I did not even have a problem with the size of the outside screen, as I was usually using it for quick looks at whatever. The new phone feels a little more solid, though the first version was fine as well. The hinge DOES feel more substantial, which I like. Over all it is great, but I thought the same thing about the original. If I had been able to get updates I would not have upgraded.
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That's good to know. It's why I originally asked the question because durability is obviously unknown on the Z Fold 2 so we can only go by how good the original one is assuming the Fold 2 is improved.
How do you find the feel of the screen compared to the original? Does it still feel plasticky? Of course there is a screen protector to consider but have read that it now feels less mushy, and not so sensitive to fingernail scratches.
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Scratches.
The inner screen feels mostly the same, as I have left the screen protector on. I never had a problem with how the screen felt on the original. The outer screen I Am enjoying more. The larger outer screen feels better to use for typing particularly. I am typing this on the outer screen using a swype keyboard and it is working perfectly as expected. One difference I have noticed is that my battery life does not seem to be as long. I used the original pretty power heavy and this one I have on optimized, but I don't think I am getting the same battery life as I did before. Not sure why.

melby0 said:
The inner screen feels mostly the same, as I have left the screen protector on. I never had a problem with how the screen felt on the original. The outer screen I Am enjoying more. The larger outer screen feels better to use for typing particularly. I am typing this on the outer screen using a swype keyboard and it is working perfectly as expected. One difference I have noticed is that my battery life does not seem to be as long. I used the original pretty power heavy and this one I have on optimized, but I don't think I am getting the same battery life as I did before. Not sure why.
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Thanks for the heads up! As much as I hate screen protectors I think I should keep the inside one intact (definitely will remove the cover screen one)
Still waiting on my phone to arrive, there's been a shortage of stock and I still don't have a delivery date yet. So excited about this phone and from what I hear I won't be disappointed.
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I just posted some comments in the "how do you clean the screen" thread so won't repeat everything here. The screen protector on the inside display is cheap and foggy. If you look at the front facing camera cutout you can see what's underneath and that looks a lot like the protective layer that everyone thought was a screen protector on the OG Fold and pulled it off and destroyed the display. Assuming what's under the screen protector is the same as the OG Fold then the display will be very durable. I had my OG Fold for eight months and the screen is as perfect today as it was when I got it. There are videos on YouTube of people taking the screen protector off on the Fold 2 and I'll join them soon. The fogginess works my nerves.
I dropped my OG Fold on wooden floors a couple of times and it was none the worse for it. The hinge was always kind of for want of a better word, crunchy. If you squeezed the phone you could feel the play in the hinge. It never affected usability and was no better or worse eight months later. The OG Fold was really a proof of concept rather than a mass production phone and if it held up as well as it did I have high hopes for the Fold 2.
Some comments after moving in the Fold 2 and using it for a few days.
The new hinge is a lot more sturdy and it staying in fixed positions on the way to open or closed allows for Flex Mode which I guess is a good thing. That is if you don't mine putting the cover display or glass back/camera glass of your $2,000 phone down on random foreign objects. It was a lot easier opening and closing the OG Fold because that's what the display was designed to do - be open or be closed. Maybe I'll fall in love with Flex Mode but I'm kind of missing the easier opening/closing.
The 4.6" cover display was really just for reading notifications and brief interactions. Typing on it was maddening. So Samsung has now filled the cover display which is a huge esthetic improvement. Typing is only moderately better because the width, while expanded, is still comically narrow. The height is clown car bizarre in use. Trying to reach the top of the cover display with one hand requires basketball player sized hands. I like the new bigger display better than the old one, even just for the improved looks, but it's still a strange format to get things done on.
I have bronze and the Fold 2 really is a gorgeous phone. It looks like jewelry with the intricate design elements and varying textures. The camera bump is much more pronounced than on the OG Fold which makes carrying it naked all the more nerve racking. The OG Fold was futuristic because it was and there was nothing to compare it to. I guess you could compare it to the Mate X but I'd never buy a foldable that had their vulnerable plastic displays on the outside of the phone. The OG Fold was an odd device and carried it's oddity with pride. The Fold 2 is a really nice phone that folds in half. It's special but not as special as the OG Fold was for its time.
Cases. I have the OEM leather case and Aramid case. Both suck for different reasons. The leather case is like wearing orthopedic shoes with a tuxedo. As balanced as the Fold 2's design is slapping the leather case on it makes it look deformed. It's a chunky case and when it's on it looks incredibly disjointed. Kind of like someone stuck an additional panel (the front display) on top of another phone as an afterthought. It does its job and protects the back of the phone well but it looks God awful. The Aramid case looks better because it's much thinner but half black and half bronze looks weird. And the kickstand bump makes the phone wobbly when you put it down and makes it easy for the phone to slide around. Olixar makes a back panel screen protector as well as a camera protector. I ordered a Dome screen protector for the front display. I think that's the way I'm going to go because I can't see with the Fold 2's design how anyone will be able to make a symmetric front and back case that doesn't look like an appendage.
In using the phone everyday it's a lot like its predecessor. It's obviously faster but s/w wise, outside of Flex Mode, there isn't a great deal of difference between the two. The inside display is much more fluid due to the higher refresh rate but what you're looking at is equal to or worse than the OG Fold because of the $.99 screen protector Samsung applied. I'm happy with the Fold 2 and it makes the OG Fold look and feel older than it is. I think the Fold 2 will wow people more that have never used a folding phone than those of us coming from the OG Fold. It sure is pretty though.

No regrets
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Thanks for the heads up! As much as I hate screen protectors I think I should keep the inside one intact (definitely will remove the cover screen one)
Still waiting on my phone to arrive, there's been a shortage of stock and I still don't have a delivery date yet. So excited about this phone and from what I hear I won't be disappointed.
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Yeah, I have no regrets on the upgrade. I am assuming I am getting poorer battery life is because of the 120h inner screen, but it seems a pretty dramatic drain at this point. I read the news in bed before I get up, and I am often at 90% just from the 10 minutes of reading. I am also having a little trouble with some new Samsung ui features. Particularly, when a message bubble appears on the front screen, I cannot read the message, only the place where I can reply. I have tried resizing, but I end up having to open the app, which defeats the purpose of the bubbles. It might be my fault though because I use the drupe app, and it might just not be sizing itself appropriately for the smaller cover screen. It might just be something I have to deal with, because I would not get rid of drupe. I like the app so much I feel like a cooperate shill for them every time I talk about it.

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Yeah, I have no regrets on the upgrade. I am assuming I am getting poorer battery life is because of the 120h inner screen, but it seems a pretty dramatic drain at this point. I read the news in bed before I get up, and I am often at 90% just from the 10 minutes of reading. I am also having a little trouble with some new Samsung ui features. Particularly, when a message bubble appears on the front screen, I cannot read the message, only the place where I can reply. I have tried resizing, but I end up having to open the app, which defeats the purpose of the bubbles. It might be my fault though because I use the drupe app, and it might just not be sizing itself appropriately for the smaller cover screen. It might just be something I have to deal with, because I would not get rid of drupe. I like the app so much I feel like a cooperate shill for them every time I talk about it.
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Yeah I think you're being brave to use an app like Drupe on such unique aspect ratios! The built in messaging app has a great bubble notification feature which I use on my Note 20, so I am guessing Samsung included the feature on the Fold 2.
Good news is my Z Fold 2 arrives tomorrow, so I am really looking forward to unboxing and trying it out.
Thanks for your input and giving me assurance regarding durability ツ
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