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ENG S-OFF and Ship S-OFF?

Hi,
I want to flash a new radio to my Sensation as I currently have a really bad battery life and thought it could maybe be the result of an non-matched radio. (Updated to Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 yesterday)
My bootloader tells me I'm Ship S-OFF, but I've read that I'd need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio, but could not find any guide telling me how to "do that".
Do I need ENG S-OFF? If so, how can I get it?
Thanks for your help.

Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
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Btw, I'm not sure if you need ENG S-OFF to flash a radio
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Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..

idavid_ said:
Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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I've already installed one PG58IMG.zip file a few weeks ago, which was a bit "bigger". Am I supposed to just install the "new" one "over" the old one? Or will there be problems?

crunkin said:
Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..
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You do not need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio.
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What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?

claudenegm said:
What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?
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Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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raybez said:
Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD

claudenegm said:
I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD
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Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks alot, it helped
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks i now finally know the difference between eng s off and ship s off
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how to (ENG S-OFF) the SENSATION
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0

yazan86 said:
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0
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Look at my first post in this thread (1 page back)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...

PhuongHoang said:
I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...
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First of all, wrong forum. Second, why would you want that? I guess you can get S-ON again and then run revolutionary again
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

Stock on HTC screen. Need help!

Hi
I have a problem. I have a HBOOt ver. 1.23 and my device is been S_OFF. I also have a Android Revolution ICS custom rom. So, I try to downgrade to official 2.3, but I do somethimg stupid. I put S_ON on my device and now my device is S-ON, HBOOT 1.23,Radio-11.19.3504.29.2 and its stock on htc homescreen.I try to install RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.1_Radio_10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198179_signed but there is a problem, error 155.
My englis is not good, sory. Is any know how to solve a problem? Send me if you know step by step solution.
Thanks

Anyone helps me?

konzul said:
Anyone helps me?
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Try putting s-off again, and just flash another rom. Honestly i would think that would be the best.

Its not posible put s off, becouse revolutionary only have s off for h boot 1.18. And its not possible to downgrade h boot from 1.23 to 1.18. Is anybody have also these problem and fix them?

konzul said:
Its not posible put s off, becouse revolutionary only have s off for h boot 1.18. And its not possible to downgrade h boot from 1.23 to 1.18. Is anybody have also these problem and fix them?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17
Give the thread I linked a read, you can unlock 1.23.
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Link is not available. Do you have another link or guide how to fix my problem?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
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konzul said:
Link is not available. Do you have another link or guide how to fix my problem?
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Sorry I didn't even pay attention to the hboot lol my bad.
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[Q] downgrade from hboot 1.29 to 1.18?

Hey everyone,
I have a Htc Sensation XE, with ICS (original rom) and i want to s off and root it, but the hboot is a 1.29 so the revolutionary way does not work, i know that there is a new way, the Juopunutbear one, but its seems a little hard, and to be honest i'm afraid to brick my phone, so can i just downgrade the phone ? flash any GB stock rom and use the revolutionary way to s off and root it ? if yes, how i'll do it ?
Thank you, and sorry for my bad english.

mouloudia007 said:
Hey everyone,
I have a Htc Sensation XE, with ICS (original rom) and i want to s off and root it, but the hboot is a 1.29 so the revolutionary way does not work, i know that there is a new way, the Juopunutbear one, but its seems a little hard, and to be honest i'm afraid to brick my phone, so can i just downgrade the phone ? flash any GB stock rom and use the revolutionary way to s off and root it ? if yes, how i'll do it ?
Thank you, and sorry for my bad english.
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i think if you downgrade your hboot version you will brick your device
instead of juopunutbear method you can do htcdev unlock method to unlock the bootloader and then root the device

and if a flash a RUU rom, a GB one, and then do the s off and root thing with the best method i know, the revolutionary one ^^

mouloudia007 said:
and if a flash a RUU rom, a GB one, and then do the s off and root thing with the best method i know, the revolutionary one ^^
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i don't know if you can do that when you are in completely stock situation
wait for someone else to confirm it
if yes then you can do that procedure

You can't flash gb ruu, if you aren't s-off, or if you don't have supercid. Try the juopuntuBeats, is very easy and no problem. If you try it 4-5 times before running the program you can do it very fast.
EDIT: you can't brick your phone, if you do all the things that is required!!! First of all unlock the bootloader, with the htc WEB SITE and then install a recovery with the sensation toolkit and then install ROOT. Finish if you want to s-off you have to do the juopuntubear if no, you can flash rom with s-on but only with 4ext recovery

ok ok, thank you very much my friends, you have been a great advise, thank you once again.

No problem, bu remember do it slowly and keep calm
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Try the juopunutbear method without htcdev unlock so you won't break your warranty! If you follow the instructions well, nothing will happen to your phone and it's not as tricky as you think
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Drunken_elk said:
Try the juopunutbear method without htcdev unlock so you won't break your warranty! If you follow the instructions well, nothing will happen to your phone and it's not as tricky as you think
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Nothin will happen, just S-OFF. Don't worry it works fine, when i do it first time i got success on the 4th try, now i can catch timing on the first attempt...so like other things it just depends on practice..

Can't install any ROM, Sensation in bootloop!!

Hi, i have one sensation 4G with hboot 1.180000, unlocked with htcdev and S-ON; My cid is T-MOB010
The problem is that is in bootloop and i can't install any rom!!
How can i do?
please help me!:crying:

marchetto said:
Hi, i have one sensation 4G with hboot 1.180000, unlocked with htcdev and S-ON; My cid is T-MOB010
The problem is that is in bootloop and i can't install any rom!!
How can i do?
please help me!:crying:
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Enable smart flash in recovery...
If u r trying to flash ics Rom then u required ics firmware 3.33
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If you don't already have it please download 4ext recovery. Then you will be able to enable smart flash. Because your S on you must use smart flash every time you flash a rom. Also make sure you have correct firmware as said in above post. Because your s on you must flash a bit differently than us with s off. I'm going to send you a link to flashing roms with s on. Skip down to where it talks about smart flash. This link will also show you how to permanently enable smart flash. Hope this is helpful. Best wishes http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
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marchetto said:
Hi, i have one sensation 4G with hboot 1.180000, unlocked with htcdev and S-ON; My cid is T-MOB010
The problem is that is in bootloop and i can't install any rom!!
How can i do?
please help me!:crying:
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Hi,
What ROM did you try to install?
You are on a GingerBread firmware.
You cannot load any ICS ROMS.
And you cannot change firmware or radio with s-on.
S-off for you would be possible using Revolutioary.
Look HERE

malybru said:
Hi,
What ROM did you try to install?
You are on a GingerBread firmware.
You cannot load any ICS ROMS.
And you cannot change firmware or radio with s-on.
S-off for you would be possible using Revolutioary.
Look HERE
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i know it, but i can't use revolutionary becouse i'm in bootloop!!

marchetto said:
i know it, but i can't use revolutionary becouse i'm in bootloop!!
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Hi,
Run a GB RUU.
Look HERE

I've solved!!
the problem was that i don't have relocked bootloader!!
thanks to all!!

Is a simple procedure. Just go with the text books.
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NEED HELP!!!

Hi i'm a newcomer..
i have read and search so many hours for this RUU..
RUU PYRAMID ICS hTC Asia WWE 3.33.707.51
For sensation not sensation xe..
Can anybody please HELP!!!
THANKS IN ADVANCE

As far as i know, sensation and sensation xe have got the same bootloader (pyramid), i myself have tried to install RUUs for sensation on my xe n all have been successful so far as i remember.
Now, canchu clarify a lil bit more?
U've got problem installin it or jus searchin to find it?
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i'm not sure if the ROM you're looking for is there, but this thread seems to have the Stock ROMs for Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559

jyo1 said:
i'm not sure if the ROM you're looking for is there, but this thread seems to have the Stock ROMs for Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
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not there i check..btw i try s-off using juopunutBear but no my phone stuck juopunutBear logo with the phone below..
plz help..

DitMz said:
not there i check..btw i try s-off using juopunutBear but no my phone stuck juopunutBear logo with the phone below..
plz help..
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if you want the phone to get back normal ..check troubleshoot point #3 from my soff guide ..link in my signature

ganeshp said:
if you want the phone to get back normal ..check troubleshoot point #3 from my soff guide ..link in my signature
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i manage to get into cwm recovery and i flash cm9+gapp when reboot phone it boot up at the same logo...
can i just find any ruu and run it??

jyo1 said:
i'm not sure if the ROM you're looking for is there, but this thread seems to have the Stock ROMs for Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
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THANKS A MILLION I READ YOUR POST AND MY PHONE BOOT UP OK!!:laugh:
btw do i really need to S-OFF??