Hi,
I want to flash a new radio to my Sensation as I currently have a really bad battery life and thought it could maybe be the result of an non-matched radio. (Updated to Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 yesterday)
My bootloader tells me I'm Ship S-OFF, but I've read that I'd need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio, but could not find any guide telling me how to "do that".
Do I need ENG S-OFF? If so, how can I get it?
Thanks for your help.
Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
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Btw, I'm not sure if you need ENG S-OFF to flash a radio
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..
idavid_ said:
Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
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I've already installed one PG58IMG.zip file a few weeks ago, which was a bit "bigger". Am I supposed to just install the "new" one "over" the old one? Or will there be problems?
crunkin said:
Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..
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You do not need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio.
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What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?
claudenegm said:
What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?
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Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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raybez said:
Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD
claudenegm said:
I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD
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Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks alot, it helped
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks i now finally know the difference between eng s off and ship s off
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how to (ENG S-OFF) the SENSATION
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0
yazan86 said:
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0
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Look at my first post in this thread (1 page back)
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I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...
PhuongHoang said:
I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...
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First of all, wrong forum. Second, why would you want that? I guess you can get S-ON again and then run revolutionary again
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Someone has the HBoot 1.18.0000 S-OFF revolutionary?
I can't find it.
Did you check their website:
http://revolutionary.io/
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Their site is currently down, but that is the url, so check back later.
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Site is now live again.
Francey said:
Someone has the HBoot 1.18.0000 S-OFF revolutionary?
I can't find it.
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on revolutionary site in new pre3 version its there at last scroll 1.18 srch
lalitsehgal21 said:
on revolutionary site in new pre3 version its there at last scroll 1.18 srch
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Actually its version 0.4 of pre3
Direct link:
http://revolutionary.io/revolutionary-0.4pre3.zip
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I see new version of Revolutionary, but i search the HBoot 1.18.0000 of Revolutionary.
Francey said:
I see new version of Revolutionary, but i search the HBoot 1.18.0000 of Revolutionary.
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There is only one zip for ALL supported phones and hboot versions! I posted the direct link above since you seem to be just a little confused. Here it is again:
http://revolutionary.io/revolutionary-0.4pre3.zip
Yes I understand but I look for someone who has installed the latest update from HTC and then used Revolutionary, so he can make a copy of HBoot 1.18.0000
Here
Download also contains radio and other firmware updates, just extract the hboot and do with it what you will. BTW once you run revolutionary that hboot gets replaced by the hacked revolutionary hboot so getting it from a device that ran revo is pointless!
Thanks but i search the hacked revolutionary hboot not official.
Just run revolutionary then, cause you aren't making sense to me. It seems like you are making this too complicated. I guess I can't help you.
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Just run revolutionary then, cause you aren't making sense to me. It seems like you are making this too complicated. I guess I can't help you.
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He wants someone who ran the revolutionary exploit on the latest hboot to make a copy for him to flash.
But iirc, the latest revolutionary downgrades you back to 1.17 so trying to get a 1.18 is futile.
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geoffcorey said:
He wants someone who ran the revolutionary exploit on the latest hboot to make a copy for him to flash.
But iirc, the latest revolutionary downgrades you back to 1.17 so trying to get a 1.18 is futile.
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That is exactly what I said already in Post #9, lol
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That is exactly what I said already in Post #9, lol
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It's know that I quoted you, but it wasn't all directed at you. Part of it was telling op what he was asking made no sense in a clearer way since it seems English isn't his/her first language.
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whats difference between 1.17 and 1.18?
Actually I've got S-Off and Hboot 1.18 and if someone tells me how to extract it I would do it but I don't know how to do
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You must have flashed the update after you got s-off which is fine but then you'll be missing out because fastboot cmds are not enabled in the stock hboot.
So there's no option to have hacked HBOOT 1.18.0000/1.18.1111 with revoultionary? Only option is downgrade to 1.17.1111?
You can S-Off it on 2.3.3 and update it OTA. I think it's the only way right now
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LLLeeo said:
You can S-Off it on 2.3.3 and update it OTA. I think it's the only way right now
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Is this safe? Any info about differences in 1.18 / 1.17?
Btw my phone is sent to HTC because I did some mistake and bricked it.
When it will be back with OTA 2.3.4 then downgrade to 2.3.3 -> S-OFF -> upgrade 2.3.4? It will be safe?
I am on InsertCoin ROM and I would like to know if I can update my HBOOT from 1.17 to 1.18.
Is this possible or there is not 1.18 (revolutionary) hacked ?
Revolutionary actually downgrades your from 1.18 to it's hacked 1.17, so upgrading to 1.18 is useless.
Also, why do you want 1.18 since you won't actually benifit/experience anything from it?
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geoffcorey said:
Revolutionary actually downgrades your from 1.18 to it's hacked 1.17, so upgrading to 1.18 is useless.
Also, why do you want 1.18 since you won't actually benifit/experience anything from it?
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Thanx for the immediate answer. I just like flashing and updating.
So in conclusion there is no way of updating to 1.18 HBOOT (hacked of course).
spdrosin said:
Thanx for the immediate answer. I just like flashing and updating.
So in conclusion there is no way of updating to 1.18 HBOOT (hacked of course).
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Yeah, if you want fastboot commands, stay on either revolutionary hboot or Eng hboot.
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geoffcorey said:
Yeah, if you want fastboot commands, stay on either revolutionary hboot or Eng hboot.
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ENG HBOOT is on version 1.18.1111 I think, isn 't it? Is there an .img file that I can place in SD and can autoupdate when I boot into bootloader? I searched the forum but I did not find that.
Thanx again for your answers.
spdrosin said:
ENG HBOOT is on version 1.18.1111 I think, isn 't it? Is there an .img file that I can place in SD and can autoupdate when I boot into bootloader? I searched the forum but I did not find that.
Thanx again for your answers.
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Again, why flash a newer bootloader if there is NOTHING to gain from it, risking the possibility of hard bricking your phone, and with pointless "fixes" that are only to undo what revolutionary did?
Its jot an update in any way, shape, or form, and increases your possibility of a hard brick for zero gain.
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geoffcorey said:
Again, why flash a newer bootloader if there is NOTHING to gain from it, risking the possibility of hard bricking your phone, and with pointless "fixes" that are only to undo what revolutionary did?
Its jot an update in any way, shape, or form, and increases your possibility of a hard brick for zero gain.
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This was the key phrase: "are only to undo what revolutionary did".
Ok man. You convienced me. Thanx for the answers.
I have bought the phone in India and it is not locked to any carrier. I can use any sim card in it. Following is the information in bootloader in my HTC Sensation.
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
eMMC boot
Aug 2 2011, 22:35:52
HBOOT
I want to attempt rooting on my phone but I dont know whether its bootloader is unlocked. Because I remember reading something about HTC releasing a tool for it. The phone is on Android 2.3.4.
So can it be rooted? Do I need to unlock it first? Can I use the method/tool in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
Please advise. TIA!
sarkar_007 said:
I have bought the phone in India and it is not locked to any carrier. I can use any sim card in it. Following is the information in bootloader in my HTC Sensation.
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
eMMC boot
Aug 2 2011, 22:35:52
HBOOT
I want to attempt rooting on my phone but I dont know whether its bootloader is unlocked. Because I remember reading something about HTC releasing a tool for it. The phone is on Android 2.3.4.
So can it be rooted? Do I need to unlock it first? Can I use the method/tool in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
Please advise. TIA!
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You can root without unlocking it but you will need to S-OFF
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can i use the tool in the link i posted to do s-off?
I've done this that way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
MIke
I have read the 1st post of the above thread. As I understand it, I have to do it in the following steps:
1. S-Off using revoltionary
2. Install CWM Recovery 5.0.0.8
3. Permanent root using su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip
4. Install Custom ROM
Is the above procedure right? Or have I messed any step?
I believe the Super CID step is for branded phones which are locked to a particular carrier. Since my phone is unbranded and not locked to any carrier, I dont have to do it, right?
Please advice if I am missing something.
sarkar_007 said:
I have read the 1st post of the above thread. As I understand it, I have to do it in the following steps:
1. S-Off using revoltionary
2. Install CWM Recovery 5.0.0.8
3. Permanent root using su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip
4. Install Custom ROM
Is the above procedure right? Or have I messed any step?
I believe the Super CID step is for branded phones which are locked to a particular carrier. Since my phone is unbranded and not locked to any carrier, I dont have to do it, right?
Please advice if I am missing something.
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To install new ROM's like the ICS 4.0.3 ones you need supercid because you have to flash a new firmware
The order in which you wrote is correct
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So I need Super CID for ICS ROM's only and not for Sense 3.5 ROM's, correct?
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So I need Super CID for ICS ROM's only and not for Sense 3.5 ROM's, correct?
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Technically incorrect as the ICS ROMs are sense 3.5 at the moment but I know what you mean. No need to SuperCID for Gingerbread based ROMs
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Yes. I meant gingerbread roms. So are the steps that I mentioned correct? And in the right order?
Btw, why does my phone has 'locked' written in the bootloader menu? Is it the locked bootloader from htc and do I have to first unlock it before attempting S-off?
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Yes. I meant gingerbread roms. So are the steps that I mentioned correct? And in the right order?
Btw, why does my phone has 'locked' written in the bootloader menu? Is it the locked bootloader from htc and do I have to first unlock it before attempting S-off?
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You should be able to S-OFF without unlocking it and it only says locked because the revolutionary tool and HTCdev tool work in slightly different ways. The steps are correct and in the right order
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Thanks, Jonny. You have been of great help.
Another thing. If I root my Sensation now and install a custom rom, will I still get the ICS update available notification whenever HTC releases it? And will I be able to apply that ICS update to my rooted phone?
I know there already are ICS rom's available but I would still want to check out what HTC offers in their official ICS update. Maybe a newer version of Sense?
Hello, anyone know if HBOOT 1.27 is unlockable with revolutionary? i've searched in this forum but i've found nothing.. please help
EDIT: No. (Stand corrected, typed faster than I was thinking)
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To S-OFF use Juopunutbear S-OFF method. Read and follow this detailed guide.
Thats not revolutionary...
Atm revolutionary doesnt support this version of hboot.
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Sorry about that.. solved my problem, i forgot that @ revolutionary site you can choose the hboot version XD. the supported ones are 1.17 and 1.18, anyway my problem is solved 'cause i've used a RUU to return back to hboot 1.18, anyway thank you!
blast1987 said:
Sorry about that.. solved my problem, i forgot that @ revolutionary site you can choose the hboot version XD. the supported ones are 1.17 and 1.18, anyway my problem is solved 'cause i've used a RUU to return back to hboot 1.18, anyway thank you!
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What? from the information i've been given, that isn't possible.
Incanity said:
What? from the information i've been given, that isn't possible.
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It is possible i already did it one time when i recovered the phone with the 1.45 RUU starting from a Android 4.0.3 based custom rom, it's a bit twisted process but not that hard
I know its possible with s-off. But with stock, unrooted ICS iT's not..
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Follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26280760
With good greets from the Masterland of Mountains ( Austria )
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My question for all of those who ever tried to flash different version RUU only on unlock bootloader and rooted. S-ON still on it place. Please tell me it was a successful or not? and also share ur experience related to this. Thank you.
obaidshera said:
My question for all of those who ever tried to flash different version RUU only on unlock bootloader and rooted. S-ON still on it place. Please tell me it was a successful or not? and also share ur experience related to this. Thank you.
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you can't flash the RUU you want cause in that case it probably won't work, you have to make sure that the RUU that you are going to flash has the same software version of your current main version.... if you follow this you will successfully install the RUU :good:
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My question for all of those who ever tried to flash different version RUU only on unlock bootloader and rooted. S-ON still on it place. Please tell me it was a successful or not? and also share ur experience related to this. Thank you.
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To flash ruu from any region you have to be s-off and Super cid as far as I know.
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Alsager said:
To flash any ruu, you have to be s-off and Super cid as far as I know.
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I'm sorry mate. Not true
You will need s-off if you want to downgrade the software or use ruu from another region.
But as long as it the right ruu for your phone it won't cause problems
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hanisod said:
I'm sorry mate. Not true
You will need s-off if you want to downgrade the software or use ruu from another region.
But as long as it the right ruu for your phone it won't cause problems
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correct :good:
matt95 said:
you can't flash the RUU you want cause in that case it probably won't work, you have to make sure that the RUU that you are going to flash has the same software version of your current main version.... if you follow this you will successfully install the RUU :good:
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hanisod said:
I'm sorry mate. Not true
You will need s-off if you want to downgrade the software or use ruu from another region.
But as long as it the right ruu for your phone it won't cause problems
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matt95 said:
correct :good:
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i have sensation 4g that has PYRAMID TMOUS RUU, i will gain S-OFF after then can i flash PYRAMID RUU?
obaidshera said:
i have sensation 4g that has PYRAMID TMOUS RUU, i will gain S-OFF after then can i flash PYRAMID RUU?
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Sorry for the late response :
No
See your phone's software info. Check if it matches the ruu you want to use
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obaidshera said:
i have sensation 4g that has PYRAMID TMOUS RUU, i will gain S-OFF after then can i flash PYRAMID RUU?
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Hi,
If you s-off,you might consider SuperCID as well.
Then, you can flash ANY RUU you like .