Finally made the full transition to Windows Phone 8 - General Topics

Okay, well first I'll start with a bit about my phone history. I started out on the HTC Wallaby in 2003ish which I spent four paychecks working part time at Long John Silvers to get. After that, I moved on through a Windows Mobile lineup.
Samsung Blackjack, T-Mobile Dash, Samsung Blackjack II, HTC Touch, HTC PPC6800 and then back to Blackjack 2 (HTC's batch back then broke if you looked at them wrong.)
After this, Android came to fruition. I joined the nation's nobody character at the time and their little beta test that was Android. I had the G1 and picked up an Omnia II for good measure just in case Android turned out to be a huge flop. The G1 was a phenomenal device though, I remember when the first emulators for it came out, I didn't even know what to do with all the possibilities. Soon after, I moved through Android devices as follows;
G1
Mytouch 3g
Samsung Behold 2
Motorola Cliq
Garminfone
Mytouch 4g
Mytouch Slide
Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S1)
Motorola Backflip (While the vibrant was being repaired)
Dell Streak 5
Samsung Captivate
back to the Dell Streak 5
It was then that I picked up the HTC HD2, beauty that it is. I still have that phone, running Windows Phone 7 and 2.1 (Yes, I know it's behind but I haven't played with it in awhile.) This was my biggest step into modding, until then I'd only flashed roms but this phone made me want to develop stuff. I cooked a few Android and Winmo roms, messed with a few kernels, etc. This phone will forever hold a place in my heart.
So, as good as that phone was, WP7 can't be that bad, right? Eh... Well, I wasn't as disappointed as most. Even in it's initial release it was more fluid than any other system available and it had Netflix and high quality games like IloMilo that I simply could not get on Android. However, going from the pure black to the hideous LCD panels that HTC used at the time making everything grey was damn near depressing. I traded this for a pair of dell streaks that someone had messed up the software on, I fixed the software and had two nice phones for one. I couldn't be happier, right? Wrong.
I went back to Android and that's when the lag first became apparent to me and I have not since been able to not recognize it in even the current flagship (Though the Nexus 4 does pretty damn well.)
I couldn't put up with it so I fell right back to Windows Phone, picking up an HTC Surround for one of my Streaks... Ugh, that device was awful but the OS was just so, refreshing. I quickly put the money down to get a Dell Venue Pro.
I used the Dell Venue Pro longer than any other device I've ever used. I used it almost one full year. after this, I was sent a Nokia Lumia 800 as a developer device and realized what perfection in a phone was. It did bug me that it didn't have a FFC but that little bother didn't damper the experience of that phenomenal device one bit. The fact that it never officially came to the US was disheartening.
However, when I realized they were EOLing Windows Phone 7 to make way for a sexy new kernel, I had to pawn it off on someone so I could maximize my return. I traded for an iPhone 4s. This was my bittersweet introduction to Apple. I loved the apps but there was literally nothing else on that awful OS to love. The layout was uninteresting, it had the worst keyboard I'd seen since Android Donut, it was generally ugly, the only likable thing was the games. That phone itself is miserable. I quickly traded it for a GS3 with a beat up backplate.
I will tell you now and I know most will disagree, the GS3 is awful. I mean, Touchwiz feels like it should be on android 2.1, not a modern version and the improvements that Sammy put in aside from the GPU acceleration were largely useless. I can't express my disappointment enough. I traded it for a pair of Galaxy S2 which I turned around and swapped for a One X + I used the One X plus and in terms of build quality it was great, HTC had finally started moving up on the overall user experience. They didn't have all the gimmicky features that Samsung uses but damn did they know how to make something that worked. Were that thing rootable at the time, I may have kept it around. Sadly, it wasn't and when I decided to get rid of it, I was fortunate enough to find someone dumb enough to trade a Nexus 4 for it (I'm persuasive and showed him price tags.)
The Nexus 4 is hands down THE premium android device, I also got a LGOG at this time that I guy brought by to have rooted and never came back for (still sitting in my drawer though I do play with it still) I love that Nexus 4 though, great device but the fact that Google's own phone can't run 1/3 of the games I want to play was outright disappointing. I traded it and $130 for an HTC One. Good device, great user interface but I don't know if mine is an exception, there's a painfully large gap between the aluminum and plastic that just bugs me. That and lag is still present (Though not as bad as it is on the awful GS4) I keep it around though, definitely good for games...
After this, I shelled out the money and bought a Lumia 920 outright. I have to say, this is the first phone since the Dell Venue Pro I've been satisfied with. Best camera, best build quality, say what you will about the software but it's reliable, lets me communicate via any means necessary with no hiccups and remains smooth no matter what I'm doing on it.
Some complain that the Lumia 920 can't be customized. I bed to differ, my phone was black three weeks ago, red two weeks ago, yellow yesterday and last night I put the finishing touches on painting the Tardis on the back of a black Lumia 920 shell. There is little better customization and it doesn't require some ugly case. It's the first phone I've had that had games that I seemed to enjoy all of, few junk games and the wireless charger in my car, at my job, built into my nightstand... It's just too convenient. I'm a power user and I love my Nokia Lumia 920 and it's Windows Phone 8 OS.

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Planning to buy a Captivate

I recently had an AT&T Tilt die on me. Fortunately, I had warranty on it, so AT&T sent me a refurbished Pure. Its awesome and all, but now I am eligible for an upgrade on one of my lines. So, I'm planning on getting the Captivate from Amazon for $99, and sell the month old refurbished Pure on ebay or something.
What do you guys think? Good idea to swap a Pure for a Captivate? And would I be able to get around $100-200 for the refurbished Pure on ebay?
What about features? I know the Captivate has Android. Is it as customizable as WinMo? Anything I should keep in mind before I take the plunge?
Thanks in advance.
I used to have a winmo phone a couple years ago, and I loved how customizable it was, but then I got the iphone because it was skinnier perfermed a lot nicer and had a lot more features.
now im going to be getting a captivate because it performs better than an iphone and just as much customization (or more) then winmo.
I had an original tilt (tynt2) up until the aria came out. I had been running an android rom on it for a few months and decided to switch. 30 days after getting my aria I returned it to Best Buy and got the captivate on release day.
I am loving the switch. My android fulfills the work, personal, and entertainment needs my winmo just couldn't get.
I will be checking out phone7 when it releases but I am not sure if I will be switching away from android. I suggest you go for it. Experience something new!
Selling rooted captivate or will trade for att banded nexus one, I don't care if its a step down. I miss trackballs, and fastboot.
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Interesting. Its nice to see different opinions. Keep them coming. I need all angles before I make my decision.
If you on at&t the captivate its the best option. The only drawback I find over the iPhone its the appstore. The 3rd party apps on the iPhone are just way more Polish.
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That's why i kept my AT&T branded Nexus One. I mean I love my Captivate, but it just isn't there yet like the Nexus One and plus the dev community behind the Nexus is second to none. It will get there, but for the time being the SIM card with my unlimited data plan and main number is in my Nexus One again, but i wont be getting rid of my Captivate either. I wish i could take the two phones and frankenstein me a nexus two. Nexus One body style with the 4" super AMOLED and MaxTouch sensor, 1 ghz hummingbird and PowerVR, and best of all Vanilla Android with Froyo. I guy can wish can't he. Until then i am happy with both just not ready to retire my loyal Nexus One, but i feel that when i do it will be for the Captivate. We just need the end of September to hurry and get here bringing us Froyo and we need Samsung to hurry with a GPS fix while the developer community grows.
I bought the captivate on release day. I have to say it's a great phone but it wasn't for me. There are a few issues with the phone that should be fixed by Samsung soon (major is just gps) but other than that its a good phone, it's more technical thats for sure. I had to return it for an iphone 4 instead, music is a big role that is a factor for me when i purchase a phone and although the stock player was ok it was nothing compared to iphone. Thats one thing no one can beat apple in...media. There is also a little bit of lag (launcher pro takes care most of it). If you buy it I would suggest you root it and make sure to back up the At&t apps...i forgot to do that lol, good thing best buy doesn't check
The only problems i have are some software issues that i assume samsung will fix - things that their skinning affected - like not being able to dial a number in a calendar invite. Not a show stopper, but an inconvenience.
As for customization - it is more customizable then WinMo mostly. WinMo was more wide open you copied files and futzed with the registry, nothing would stop you. Android, you have to root first - so an extra step. But compared to the iPhone much easier to customize. Rooting after an update is much easier then jailbreaking.
As far as other comparisons - I like the captivate better then my iPhone 3G, and passed on the iPhone 4. I think the media player in the captivate is superiour to the iphone - the interface is nicer, and easier and sound is just as good if not better then the iphone. More video and music formats are supported too, and even though the screen may not have the pixels of the iPhone 4 it is bigger and better looking. Blacks are black and that is what i wanted.
Android is not perfect, but it is catching up to the iPhone fast. iPhone has at least a year jump on Android, but I think the feature list will put Android on top soon.
I haved had phones of every OS, and Android is my favorite so far - the extent of the widgets is amazing.
I switched over from a BlackBerry Bold 9000, phone is night and day difference. The call quality is better, web browsing, youtube and the screen is awesome. The only downside I find with the Captivate is the lack of push e-mail scheme except with gmail but the plus side is no more truncation and actually get to see all of the html e-mails like looking at them through thunderbird. I will add that I love Android over Palm, BB and Windows Mobile, I have not owned the iPhone but I dont think I can because I prefer the 4 inch samoled screen.
HTH,
Charlie
You probably know already since you've been doing research, but the compass and GPS on the Captivate are totally busted at the moment. Otherwise, it's a fantastic handset, and as customizable as you could want.
I got the Captivate on release day, and previously used a Tilt.
The Tilt was running the stock WinMo ROM for most of it's life, but I got bored and flashed Polymod's 2.1 ROM to it at some point.
That's what made me get the Captivate.
The Captivate beats the Tilt and Pure in nearly every way possible. I don't think you'll regret the upgrade at all.
My only complaint is that the battery isn't the best on the Captivate, but it's not a big deal unless you go multiple days without access to a charger.
I say go for it.
Thanks for all your opinions, guys. Yeah, I've been doing a lot of research, and am disappointed that the GPS on this phone sucks. Its not a huge deal breaker, but something to think about nonetheless. By the way, is the GPS/compass totally busted or is so-so?
I'm looking forward to the switch to Android, because I'm a programmer by heart and like to tinker with my devices, so iOS is out of the question.
My compass is completely busted, but my GPS is fine if I'm outside. It just takes a while to get a lock. Others have reported GPS being way off.
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Thanks for all your opinions, guys. Yeah, I've been doing a lot of research, and am disappointed that the GPS on this phone sucks. Its not a huge deal breaker, but something to think about nonetheless. By the way, is the GPS/compass totally busted or is so-so?
I'm looking forward to the switch to Android, because I'm a programmer by heart and like to tinker with my devices, so iOS is out of the question.
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I've never had an issue with the compass unless it gets too close to a magnet. a few figure eights in the air resets it.
The GPS is a software issue, and will eventually be officially fixed. It also seems to be a hit and miss for some people that could be due to bad phone batches, times of day, location, or a million other variables. There are a few GPS fixes currently floating around that should improve any GPS issues at least marginally. they do not fix the underlying issues, but do help mitigate them.

Is anyone jumping ship to the Dell Streak?

The past few months I've fallen in love with the Dell Streak but it's release kept on getting pushed back. I bought the Captivate on a whim because I got bored with the 3Gs (owned all iPhones but not the i4). Hopefully AT&T will have some in stores before my return window ends for the Captivate. The Captivate does have better hardware all around, minus the camera flash and front cam, but the Streak's 5 inch screen is my main attraction to it. I need some hands on time with it
Don't want to sound harsh, but I came in here to research and discuss Samnsung Captivate.
Sorry bud I thought this was a Captivate forum? 5 inch LCD got nothing on a 4 inch Super AMOLED.
Besides 5 inch is too clumpsy to hold. 4 inch is the PERFECT size to fit on your hand.
Holy **** this is dumb, where else should I post this? Streak General, maybe, but I'm highlighting the positives of the Captivate as well.
The streak has a SMALLER battery(relative) and a screen thats some 20% bigger or so. Even though the captivate supposedly has the best battery of any smartphone on the market, I still feel it dies way too fast.
If for nothing else, you can't friggin use these phones for long. At least the captivate tries to be super batt efficient. Froyo did wonders for the Evo, lets hope it does the same for the captivate...
Oh ya, and who knows if the streak will ever get froyo
I've owned every iPhone since the first (even the i4 for 3 weeks) and tried out the Evo 4g for a month and absolutely loved Android. Returned the Evo within the 30 days and bought the captivate. While it does have its bugs (lag and GPS), it still is a great phone. Out of the box, I don't think it would be noob-friendly like the iPhones are, because you really have to tinker around to get it working up to speed.
Now the Dell streak, WOULD be great if it came out in time. But now, the hardware AND software is dated. 2.1 was leaked for it, but that may be the last official software update Dell may release for it. The community behind the Streak may be lacking because its only coming out (so far) on AT&T, while the Samsung Galaxy S phones is a literally a worldwide release. Therefore, the hacking community may be slim - thats one reason why I love the Galaxy S, it really has great support from the community and even Samsung is listening to the people now.
Streak:
+ Large screen, great for viewing web, movies, etc
+ Aesthetically looks great (it looks like a larger version of the Captivate)
+ The GPS probably works
- Too large to comfortably hold with one hand or use for calling
- Compared to SGS, slower CPU and GPU
- Screen pales in comparison to Super AMOLED and Retinal Display
- 1.6 Stock loaded, 2.1 beta leaked, but no official release date
- Dell Android UI = UGLY
So, no, I wont be jumping ship, but I do want to play with it. ATT store did not have any in yesterday
Well put, Andy. I was once extremely interested in the Streak too. Now it is second fiddles to the GS, DROID X, and Droid Incredible.
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Don't want to sound harsh, but I came in here to research and discuss Samnsung Captivate.
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The op is discussing the captivate. Whether to keep it or not. Why not go post something like this in one of the ip4 vs cap threads and see how far that gets you? Ease up man.
To the op, I'm getting the captivate for the same reason I got the fuze, lots people in the community. The phone is sold worldwide. Itss the first high end android phone on ma bell, one of the best harware wise period. Keep the beast.
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I think it's a valid question and this is the right forum for it.
I won't be switching to the streak. I like the galaxy screen too much to switch to the streak. Also,i feel that a five inch screen is really stretching that wvga resolution too far. I read the streak is also shipping with android 1.6. That is a deal breaker and a half for me.
I have owned almost every current android. While each is unique my experience summed up goes like this. N1: too many screen problems, early updates, small app storage. Droid: the phone that started it all. Eris: junk, Droid Incredible: great phone great II decent app storage, gaming capabilities lower due to snapdragon. Droid X: great overall, great build quality, great amount of app storage(8gb), decongestant most powerful phone made CPu,GPU wise, awesome screen. Gets better with use. Samsung galaxy S: overall most powerful android phone available, great foe gaming, unfortunately not on Verizon yet, fantastic screen. By the time u are able to get the streak it will b way outdated with crap II. Stick with what u got. Motor will b bringing a new phone with OMAP 4 to Verizon this fall it will be the only thing that will compare to SGS power user wise. Well that's a short synopsis of my experience.
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I too thought the Streak was interesting - 9 months ago. Now it is dated. As mentioned already, it is to big to be hand held phone, it is sold at full price but locked to AT&T, and the hardware and shipping OS are old.
If I want a phone that is to big to use as a phone, then I will get a tablet with 3G, and wear a BT headset all the time.
Oh, and rumor is that Samsung will be showing off some new tablets in the upcoming weeks.
I totally forgot about the community aspect between the streak and captivate. I already put the JM5 EURO GS on my captivate and there's many more projects GS users are working on. You can just take a look at ask the activity on the I9000, vibrant and captivate forums VS the streak's.
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I own both the Captivate and Streak. Streak is great for real estate space but not so great as a phone. I use the Streak now as a replacement for my archos 5 for surfing on the couch or bed. The Captivate is the day to day phone.
I think I'm going to get the Streak in a couple months and have both my Captivate and the Streak. Had the Streak come out a month or so ago, I would have had one. It seriously takes this long to release basically the same phone across the pond? I could even see if they'd updated to 2.2 in that time, but its still running 1.6. And that makes me wonder if and when they will update to Gingerbread. At least with the Captivate I know Samsung will get me to 2.2 in a timely manner.
The only reason I'm still even considering trading is because of the pentile screen on the SGS, BUT the pixel density on the Streak sucks anyway, so *shrug*.
Just to let you know, there are multiple websites posting that Dell is going to be shipping the Streak with Froyo instead of 1.6. I haven't seen any updated benchmarks, but I am sure they'll be around what the Nexus One can get.
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Just to let you know, there are multiple websites posting that Dell is going to be shipping the Streak with Froyo instead of 1.6. I haven't seen any updated benchmarks, but I am sure they'll be around what the Nexus One can get.
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no, it still ships with 1.6 and froyo is only RUMORED to be released by Dell (and skipping Eclair), but at an unknown date - could be months off.
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Enough said.
I love my Captivate, I looked at the I Phone4 they were side by side at the AT&T atore and held it played around a bit on it but I was already sold on the Captivate, I researched it for a while. It isn't Noob friendly, electronics no longer come with a user manual worth a dime but once I downloaded the pdf I played with it night and day. I lurked on Android Forums, and here to learn as much as I could. I love playing with gadgets that are pretty much idiot pfoof and I think the Samsug pretty much is. I've only had it 3 weeks and I have it tweaked to my liking for now. All the AT&T crapware is off of it as well as some other bugs that are also gone thanks to BuglessPete's Unleash the Beast Rom/Tool. I wouldn't by Dell no way, imo, they make an inferior product these days. I would feel uncomfortable with a 5" screen, the I4 is too small and this Samsung is the perfect size. Plus, the Hummingbird processor is lightning fast and there is so much available as far as tweaks go in these forums this phone will be quite fun to mess around with for quite some time.
The big screen is nice I guess (too big imho), but Dell clearly does not seem to be pulling out their A-game for this phone, so even if I needed/wanted a phone with that much real estate it'd be an awfully tough sell.
Do not buy:
- has 30fps cap issue like the evo
- very low benchmark scores.
- android 1.6 with slow updates.
- little to no dev support.
Dell made so many mistakes with the device launch it is just sad.

Debating leaving Android for iPhone...

I was happy with my G1 back in October of 2008. It was great. Then, due to iPhone leapfrogging and hardware limitations of the G1, I needed a "better phone." Well, I got the first one that looked good on paper...The dreaded Samsung Vibrant.... the thing I HATED about it was the copycat look stolen from the iPhone, but, I put up with it. Then, right off the bat, I noticed that the gps didn't work. At all. I was lucky if it had me within a block of where I actually was. So, I thought it was Samsung. So I rooted and tried different ROMs. Still not happy with this glitchy, slow-ass phone.
Am I REALLY buying the marketing hype that the iPhone "just works???" I really like the Android system but am SO unhappy about the problems with the hardware etc. My wife and son ech have the HTC Sensation. Great phone but the battery? Please! Lasts 4 hours with decent use.
Here are my two problems with Apple:
1. Overpriced, and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. I have a problem with paying for a device that I KNOW has a HUGE markup in it. good for Apple, bad for consumer.
2. My wife, through her work has been given 2 Macbooks over the years. A white macbook about 12 years ago, and a macbook air a month ago. The original macbookHAD MORE PROBLEMS THAN ANY WINTEL SYSTEM I HAVE EVER HAD. So, we swore off Apple. Then comes the marketing hype. We actually bought into and believed (like the IT dept at her work this year) that the macbook Air was made by God hiimself. Like all apple products. The first week, it freezes up while she is making a powerpoint presentation. Totally frozen. Has to Hard restart. A week later, freezes up in WORD. Same thing, no soft reboot. Had to turn it off physically.
Anyway, I rant. So, on to my question -
SHOULD I STICK IT OUT AND WAIT FOR THE NEXUS PRIME OR GO IPHONE 5?
The Nexus Prime is going to be made by Samsung....
I am attaching a post I made earlier today on the tmobile forums regarding samsung just fyi.
"First there was the Behold fiasco. Then all the Samsung apologists said, oh, samsung has learned their lesson. REALLY.... I don't know who to blame and who to, therefore, quit... I THINK its Samsung. The phone (without rooting and installing modded ROMs) is a piece of iPhone knock-off crap. (I hate Touchpiss because, yes Apple you are right, it freaking looks like iOS). I bought the damn phone in July of 2010. We were promised a 2.2 update shortly. It was like 6 months later to finally get that pos.
Then we are told IN MARCH via samsung twitter etc. that 2.3 would be coming soon. (Yes, the Vibrant was mentioned specifically). Its been ANOTHER 6 months and NOTHING.
I AM DONE WITH SAMSUNG.
Please tell me if I'm wrong.
Tell me if Samsung has had the 2.3 update waiting for 6 months and it's "T-mobiles fault."
Tell me they have learned their lesson.
#neveragain"
Thanks for listening...
simple
just think what you can not do with AndroidOS that you can do with iOS and vice versa
if you find more + points on the iOS side, then by all means get an iphone / ipad
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I was happy with my G1 back in October of 2008. It was great. Then, due to iPhone leapfrogging and hardware limitations of the G1, I needed a "better phone." Well, I got the first one that looked good on paper...The dreaded Samsung Vibrant.... the thing I HATED about it was the copycat look stolen from the iPhone, but, I put up with it. Then, right off the bat, I noticed that the gps didn't work. At all. I was lucky if it had me within a block of where I actually was. So, I thought it was Samsung. So I rooted and tried different ROMs. Still not happy with this glitchy, slow-ass phone.
Am I REALLY buying the marketing hype that the iPhone "just works???" I really like the Android system but am SO unhappy about the problems with the hardware etc. My wife and son ech have the HTC Sensation. Great phone but the battery? Please! Lasts 4 hours with decent use.
Here are my two problems with Apple:
1. Overpriced, and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. I have a problem with paying for a device that I KNOW has a HUGE markup in it. good for Apple, bad for consumer.
2. My wife, through her work has been given 2 Macbooks over the years. A white macbook about 12 years ago, and a macbook air a month ago. The original macbookHAD MORE PROBLEMS THAN ANY WINTEL SYSTEM I HAVE EVER HAD. So, we swore off Apple. Then comes the marketing hype. We actually bought into and believed (like the IT dept at her work this year) that the macbook Air was made by God hiimself. Like all apple products. The first week, it freezes up while she is making a powerpoint presentation. Totally frozen. Has to Hard restart. A week later, freezes up in WORD. Same thing, no soft reboot. Had to turn it off physically.
Anyway, I rant. So, on to my question -
SHOULD I STICK IT OUT AND WAIT FOR THE NEXUS PRIME OR GO IPHONE 5?
The Nexus Prime is going to be made by Samsung....
I am attaching a post I made earlier today on the tmobile forums regarding samsung just fyi.
"First there was the Behold fiasco. Then all the Samsung apologists said, oh, samsung has learned their lesson. REALLY.... I don't know who to blame and who to, therefore, quit... I THINK its Samsung. The phone (without rooting and installing modded ROMs) is a piece of iPhone knock-off crap. (I hate Touchpiss because, yes Apple you are right, it freaking looks like iOS). I bought the damn phone in July of 2010. We were promised a 2.2 update shortly. It was like 6 months later to finally get that pos.
Then we are told IN MARCH via samsung twitter etc. that 2.3 would be coming soon. (Yes, the Vibrant was mentioned specifically). Its been ANOTHER 6 months and NOTHING.
I AM DONE WITH SAMSUNG.
Please tell me if I'm wrong.
Tell me if Samsung has had the 2.3 update waiting for 6 months and it's "T-mobiles fault."
Tell me they have learned their lesson.
#neveragain"
Thanks for listening...
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It's even simpler. Be careful which Android phone you buy. The iPhone is excellent, but it isn't as perfect as it should be. And there are Android phones that are better than the iPhone. But you have to discover which ones. Usually buying your phones from a store with a good refund policy will help in discovering the good Androids from the bad.
For battery life, you cannot find anything better than the iPhone 4. For the iPhone 5, I don't know about the battery life. But it is assumed to be just as good. But iOS isn't as user friendly as Android. And you can...I know from experience...find Android phones just as pleasing and satisfying as any iPhone can be. And even more so.
I'd highly suggest the Nexus S or the next version of the Nexus. Or look at something from HTC, like the Sensation, if you're on T-Mobile, or the HTC Inspire if you're on AT&T.
My Samsung Infuse...a Galaxy S descendant...is quite outstanding. The GPS issues Sammy had with the Galaxy S phones is no more on their later phones.
If you want a work of art hardware wise and reliable and secure operation, get an iPhone. Just don't be surprised that you need to navigate through many menus to perform a simple function which, in Android, comes with the tap of a single button. And don't expect to do anything with an iPhone outside of using it's collected apps. There's no customization to speak of.
I personally have the Sensation and once it's rooted with a different rom battery life is much better and performance is X10 compared to stock. If you want a great performing phone with excellent battery life though look for an HTC phone with a second generation single core snapdragon processor. The Inspire 4G, G2 and the MyTouch 4G all fall into this category for AT&T/T-Mobile. Honestly the Inspire is one of the better built phones out there and this is coming from a tech that repairs phones all the time. Also not that the Inspire doesn't perform well out of the box, but running aosp android (cyanogenmod) from a phone with that kind of hardware makes for an awesome android experience. Only issue with this phone is no front facing camera which might not even be a big deal to you, I don't know.
Thanks for the input!
Quick side-note. Although official 2.3 has not dropped, the speed of CM7 on the vibrant took it to a whole different level. Amazing. But no source = issues like no GPS at all and poor battery life. Thus my HUGE disappointment with Samsung never giving us gingerbread.

Experiences with your phone(s)

As you can see from my siggy i have used phones from lg samsung nokia htc and sony im gonna tell you my xp with them
old lg phone - was nice had fm radio and sudoku game that wud entertain me for along time from 2001 -2006
lg cookie 501 - was very customizable skins , java games and 3 mp cam was good 2006 - 2008
nokia c6-01 - early ages of symbian^3 , had cool games and such but was so laggy!! the camera was awsome 8mp! with dual led 2008 - 2009
htc wildfire!! - first android , after my nokia got drowned , i bought the wildfire cause it was cheap and had good reviews , i liked htc sense 2.1
but was unsatisfied cause it was stuck on froyo.. sense made it more laggier! but the 5mp cam was ok but worse then the c6-01. 2009 - 2010
galaxy mini - was an awsome phone that had alot of custom roms!! released on gingerbread , 600mhz was ok 3mp cam was a really big
downgrade!!! the fact i like this phone is the custom roms it felt new when i got rid of touchwhiz 2.. 2010 - 2011 sept
and finally
xperia ray - current phone 1ghz 512mb ram , gb > ics > soon jellybean , exmor r sensor 8mp! 9mm , this was amazing the support that sony has is amazing and so durable. it made stay for the nxt sony phone 2011 sept - PACMAN ROM!!
NEXUS 4!- waiting for it
so tell me guys about ur phones experience
-.- english aint my native language
I had a Nokia 2720 from 2009 to mid 2010. Way too simple of a phone.
Then I got a Motorola EM330. Just as simple as the Nokia, but had microSD expansion so I could store my music.
In November of 2011, I decided to get my first taste of Android. I got a Motorola Cliq. Many ROMs but was a lag beast. 5mp shooter. Terrible and no flash.
December 2011. Bought a used LG Ally off eBay. It was a step up in speed, step down in camera (3.2mp but with LED flash), big jump in pixel density and screen resolution, but only had a small handful of ROMs.
January 2012, I got a Motorola Droid due to high development and a recent ICS port. Nice large screen and high DPI, good 5mp camera with dual LED flash, but definitely had great development. First of my phones with Adobe Flash. Such a cool factor.
March 2012, I received a temporary Droid 2. With a 1GHz processor, I had high expectations... but was disappointed by the lag when loading pages with lots of pictures such as phonearena or phonedog. I definitely noticed a speed increase in gaming compared to my other phones, however. Updated to unrootable firmware and to this day the only phone I have owned that is still on stock ROM. Same cam as Droid 1.
Late June, 2012. I bought a Motorola Flipside to replace my Motorola Cliq which was still my phone for calling/texting. Awful development and awful memory, but speedy processor and good enough RAM. CM7 and link2sd saved me, thankfully. 3.1mp no autofocus the worst smartphone camera I've used.
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I know i'll probably forget a few,
My first phone was a Nokia 8210 then 8310, 7210, 3650, 9210, 9500, E61i the best phone I have ever used, E71 was fast but lacked the E61i grip, a few 1100 and that sort of phones, currently i got the X1, dual Sim and both works at the same time which is great for a $35 phone that has a slot for micro SD up to 16 GB.
Blackberry 7270 First blackberry with bluetooth, BBM v1 was hit back in the day, 9500, 9000, 8910, 8250, 9700, 9800, 9900
Sony Ericsson W900i, T68 great phones, If i can remember correctly T68 was the first phone to have colors
Android HTC Dream (T-mobile G1) great phone i still remember people used to switch the trackball of this phone to a Blackberry, Alcatel One Touch 991 current phone, just unlocked it and I'd be using more and more of it, fast for it's value €100, battery life isn't that great, barely hold a day, but with that price I didn't expect more.
iPhone 3G, 3Gs, 4, 4s, they only lasted a week after iPhone 4, but I wasn't a big fan of no flash where others manufactures had a greater specs.
iMate JASJAM oh man, GPRS, Windows Live Messenger and all of that reminds me of the good old days, pre-iphone generation kids now adays wouldn't know how it felt.a
Palm can't recall the model or when I had it, i know it was there somewhere.
Java has it's touch too with games and apps
I can't recall anymore phones, would update if I remembered, thanks OP for the great Subject, you brought a lot of good memories
Experience with my phones
I do not remember some of them. But i got excellent experience with my cell phones. I do remember I git Nokia N10 initiall. It was nice phone though not much features.
Then i moved towards NOkia Cell phones. It was a great Experience. I used Nokia 1112 with FM, and some other features also nice keypad. I also used Nokia 1110 and Nokia 103. All are cool sets. Very reliable and worth full indeed
My first was a Nokia 8310, then a 9500. Then I went on a Motorola spree with some silver flip-phone pieces of ****, followed by a RAZR. Tried a Blackberry Pearl 8310 for a while. Now I am on a Samsung Infuse 4G.
What motivates me to try a new phone? Price. I am a cheap SOB, and am willing to use slightly outdated tech to save a buck. The total out-of-pocket cost for all of the above phones is a whopping $0.01 U.S. which I paid for my latest Infuse.
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My first cell phone N343i, and I think that was somewhere around 2005. At the time I had actually no use for a cell phone, but I just had to have a cell phone for "all the other" kids had one. So after lots of looking around I found that one, and got it prepaid. I think I haven't sent more than a twenty messages with it, and nothing else. The screen got cracked over the years, but I still have it somewhere.
I think I carried it about a year and a half, and then I decided not to have any cell phone at all until there seemed the need for it again, and that was somewhere early in 2009. I got myself a nice Samsung C3050. The only requirements I had at the time were that it had the possibility to have MP3 ringtones. In the end that was a silly thing to go for, since I always had my phone on vibrate, so I really never heard the MP3 ringtone. I carried that one until a month ago, since it sometimes would power off for no reason, and sometimes it didn't even turn on. Then I moved to my dad's old N97 mini. The screen is good, but the software underneath it was so-so. Symbian didn't work as I wanted it to, and I longed for an Android phone.
I noticed the Xperia Miro, and that's the one I have now. The screen is a downgrade from the N97 mini resolution-wise, but I just didn't want to spend a lot of money on a cell phone. I don't think I need the high specs, since there is nothing spectacular that I will be doing on it. And, I don't think I should spend that much money on a single thing considering I work just a couple days at minimum wage. There are more important things than a fast cell phone! (Believe it or not. I'm quite a fan of books, and those need to be bought too.)
My next device will most likely be something top of the range, but that is just because I expect to have a better job by then.
Totally satisfied with sgs2..
I'm using sgs2 for a year now and thanks to developers that I don't have to buy a new phone due to fast android development. I'm testing JB on my device and my company yet to release JB updates. Hats off to developers.
First phone was some Motorola which had black white screen. It also had that sexy antenna on the top. It was a good phone, don't remember much.
The next one was I guess the first Ericsson phone(later Sony Ericsson). It didn't have any games or changeable ringtones, you could only text and call with it.
The next one was Nokia 3310. Yes, THE Nokia. I liked it, every one was jealous at me, cause it was so cool! It had the original Snake game
After that I had a couple of Nokia Symbian phones. They all sucked! I hate Symbian! It was slow and buggy, it made me mad
Sony Ericsson K550i. The best phone till the date. It had good camera, led flash light, java games(I literally had two thousand games on it!) and WalkMan music player! Awesome phone,I remember we threw that phone outside on rocks and asphalt(drunk...) and there was no scratches or cracks anywhere! I sold the phone later with a decent price.
Sony Ericsson W890. Again, awesome phone. I was a big fan out SE those days. It was a flip phone, and when the flip was closed, the button lights on top of the phone turned on and you could play music using those capacitive buttons! There was also a 1" screen above the buttons. You can only imagine how jelly everybody was...
That phone however, did break. It just didn't turn on
ZTE Blade, it was great at start. My first real smart phone(Android, baby!). It had fairly big development scene, not in XDA though. It also had official Cyanogenmod support. This phone was extremely slow, and upgraded it after a rough year.
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc. Great camera, looked good, but it was slow too. Upgraded it after two months. I just wasn't satisfied.
Samsung Galaxy S2. This phone's a beast. Dual core, decent camera, AMOLED screen, huge development scene etc. I love this big boy Bought it like three months ago.
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My first phone was the SE W710i. I really liked the thing although it was really thick. unfortunately it got stolen after 5 weeks.
my second phone was the SE S500i. again a SE phone this one looked nicer than the W710i but the keys on the keypad started breaking in half. I sent it back for repair, after repaired I used it for another 1,5 years.
Third phone was the Nokia 3110c, b/c my S500i was broken for good someone gave me this phone. I didn't like it, it was very slow, the screen sucked (very low resolution and ****ty colors).
4th phone was the ZTE Blade (still got it). this was my thirst android phone. It had a very active community, so within 2 days I tested more than 5 different roms. The real downsides of this phone are the old (slow) armv6 cpu, the ****ty camera and the low headset volume.
Now I have the SGS+ i9001 I really like it, but I would like the official cm support which I was used to have on my blade.
My first phone was a Motorola Adventure V750 that I used from April 2009-April 2011. Good lord the thing was frustrating to use! It constantly froze and rebooted itself; it was a pain to text; couldn't do anything on it (tried to get games on it, but no dice!).. Bleh. It was good for being almost indestructible though!
Second phone was a Nokia E71 from April 2011-April 2012. I love it. The keyboard is great, it's durable, has a nice design... almost perfect. Though it did tend to get laggy for almost no reason, and the version of Symbian its running is pretty outdated looking. Regularly use it when I don't want to take my newest phone out...
Currently I use a Samsung Galaxy Note i717 that I got in April this year. It is a terrific phone; the screen is nice and large and crisp, it's very smooth and responsive and Android has a ton of great apps/features. I love this phone.
I've owned 4 different Sony Ericsson, love all of them! Right now using Xperia Pro, first time using custom kernel and ROM, pretty buggy..... still trying to figure them out.
My favorite is the HTC HD2, before Samsung Omnia i900, HTC Trinity (very nice phone), many of nokia models. At this time I think about Samsung G S3 but I still love my HD2.
I've owned a number of whatever blah cell phones that I've gotten for free with service contracts and all that, but the greatest phone of all was the LG enV. Loved that little keyboard, never texted faster in my life. Plus I got a pretty sick Nip/Tuck game that would gross out my friends. HTC Incredible comes second, with my current Inc2 right behind it. Droid 3 sux the worst.
For me the worst was motorola e365, I had too many problems with that phone and 2 days after finish guarante the phone was dead. From that time I never bought nothing made by motorola.
I think my telephone is the better!!! It is the lg optimus one..i have it for 2 years and i can say that you can do everything with this amazing phone!!!
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My favourite android phone is xFone C2- one 3G Ice Cream Sandwich SmartPhone. 6 inch Capatitive Multi-Touch Screen is perfect for me.i have kept it for 1 year now.
Nokia 6100 - first phone back in the day was still young didnt know a lot about phones was happy with it; second I can recall was Nokia 6020 this one came with a camera didnt really feel an upgrade, ive gone with this one for a while till i got a present a nokia 7070 used it until I accidentally left it in a pocket of a vest which went in to the washing machine... Rip was quite a good one, then I got a blackberry 8320 somehow lost it one day, it was my first blackberry and was just in love with the keyboard, was writing everything that came to my mind lol... then I got a nokia n73 from a friend which I use until today, along with a xperia x10, but will go out hunting for something bigger and better in a few weeks.
I had few nokia, Those thing always work! I was young, i dropped them, throw them, etc!
SHC-U740. Dual flip. I was sure i would destroy that phone! It held on good! Viva el QWERTY phone.
Now I have a Vision. No problem so far but I just can't wait to have new QWERTY phone. The Vision Spec are quite low for ICS&JB.
HTC Rezound: Amazing Camera and audio! It was kind of slow... The screen was extremely sharp but had poor colors and outside visibility. Took forever to get ICS... Htc sense is a beast but overall, this phone was good.
Galaxy s3 (U.S. Version): Incredibly snappy, s4 processor is a beast and easily matches/outperforms quad cores. The gpu is also great but not as good as the Exynos ones... The screen is absolutely amazing, it has the best white-balance and contrast of any amoled screen. I also installed the bravia engine and pentile is unnoticeable. I have android 4.1.1 (still beta) and most things are buttery smooth... Camera is amazing too.
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Is the 1020 still worth getting?

My 4s is crapping out slowly, and i found a brand new lumia 1020 for $250 on kijiji, brand new, in yellow! kinda tempted to get it cuz of the nice camera and windows 10 around the corner, as well as denim just released, but it is 2015, and the 1020 wasn't a powerhouse to begin with. what do you guys think? save the $250 and wait, or will the phone still be viable for some time? as you can tell, i'm on a budget. would have gone for the oneplus one, but with the canadian dollar + shipping it will likely be $500+ delivered.
anyway, thanks for the advice.
Just for camera?
The question is "Are you going for this phone just for camera?". If you answer is "yes" then, go ahead. This is the simply the best camera out there. At this budget, superb.
But, if you considering moving from Android to Windows Phone, that is a big adventure. Mainly because of the App store and other features of the WP, which Android user may not like.
I advise you to check the Windows Phone OS first (may be borrow phone from a friend) before actually buying.
Note: I am using this phone just for its camera.
I have been using the Nokia Lumia 1020 for about 6 months. It has been doing very well for me, and I bought it for two reasons. One, I missed Windows OS. I used to use a HTC Wizard, then a Tytn and finally the Kaiser. They were fantastic, and the Kaiser I used straight for a good 5 years. In fact, that phone I still have and it works just fine, however the battery is showing its age and the front bezel has cracked and fallen off in places.
The second reason is that my Samsung Galaxy SII LTE was an absolute piece of garbage. I used it for almost 2 1/ years and it was problematic pretty much from the get-go. I had battery issues (replaced the battery)... then there were the constant freezes, crashes, app drops and more. It was absolutely terrible! I had more issues with Android than any other phone I have used..
I've used a lot of phones, but my Windows OS phones have been the best ones I have ever used! I got hooked with the old Motorola VX220... and moved on from there..
Glad to be back to Windows OS and I don't see myself ever going back.
The 1020 I bought both for the camera (I love it) and for the phone itself. It has proven to be more than reliable, it has proven to be an absolute wonderful phone!
Granted it sucks not having expandable storage space, but hey, that 4s you have isn't either!
I'd say grab one, they are excellent phones and will treat you well...! Just make sure you get a case for it as the phone can feel a bit slippery without one..

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