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Hey everyone.
I ran across this over at the GS2 forum.
This guy has one.
Check out his blog
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/
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Some pretty impressive numbers there, and a very complete selection of benchmarks.
Would seem like the CPU in the GS2 is at least 2x more powerful than the Hummingbird in ours. Also some impressive GPU numbers.
Thing is though... the original Galaxy S was like 6-8 months ahead of the curve in pretty much every facet of the device. Even now, no other device on the market can compare with the Super AMOLED screen. The Galaxy S2 however has some impressive specs, and a very cool looking (and very thin) package, but it doesn't feel like it's going to be the "step above the rest" that the original was.
Guess we'll see when it's actually released!
Not that it matters, but that's got to be some of the highest quadrants ever recorded.
That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...
I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though
SkitchBeatz said:
I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though
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I'm really on the fence about it due to the screen size (for battery life, size of the handset) and the resolution. I may be able to live with the lack of resolution, but I'd have to see battery life numbers before I even think about swapping out my captivate.
Just got mine today very impressive and fast. Very responsive and thin.
Camera is brilliant and video recording wow best out there.
I was really looking forward to the galaxy s 2 but I am thinking its gonna be awhile before it is released. I find it hard to believe with the infuse on the way (but to the best of my knowledge also with out a release date) that samsung would cut their own throat by following the infuse with the galaxy s 2. I have been eligible for an update for awhile so I am thinking there is going to be allot of competition when it finally arrives. IMO samsung has really dropped the ball by not releasing here sooner, especially if it has to face the iphone 5. At this point it seems like the sgs 2 will be doa as the next killer phone if released in the fall.
that score in antutu is quite impressive! holy crap that's fast tegra 2's need to run at 1500 mhz to beat that!. the 3d benchmarks are likely heavily held back by a cap on the fps just like the captivate is already. i have gotten 491 points for 3d alone in antutu with a certain kernel and rom combo and that wasnt even with the gpu overclocked or fps cap removed like some of the vibrant kernels and old captivate 2.1 kernels. could do.
i want to see that thing run without any fps caps and some kernel tweaks! no overclocking.
I might upgrade next year. I think it's a good to give 6 months to a year before getting a top of the line handset.
That's enough for bugs to be noticed (and hopefully fixed), for community development to take off and for the apps to catch up with the new phone's technology. Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now the only apps that can take full advantage of the Sgs2 processors are benchmarks.
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For those interested, Engadget UK just posted a review of the Galaxy S 2:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
SO gps works...
BRB preordering
Glad they put the USB at the bottom
yeah but is it using the same type of internal memory? that is the biggest bottleneck of any device or computer is the *hard drive*
the internal memory in current phones is single channel read OR write crap.
and please dont say ddr2 memory.... thats different and only helps a little in comparison to the issue with the storage memory
I think I'll just wait for what samsung promise to have a 2ghz dualcore nxtyr or later, I'm still in my 2yr contact though
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i like the coment at the end "best smart phone period!" says it all!
that said i am a little disapointed with the 3d performance of the dual core phones. though the tegra is a powerful application processor and the orion is fast beyond description the open gl performance isnt much beyond what the galaxys already does. was samsung just that far ahead in that area or is there power to be unlocked in these chipsets?
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That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...
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Why on earth would u want to upgrade to Galasy S2?
They have so much potential and best tech in screens, internal storage, cameras, processors, and good design builds in past YET lately they rush everything (unfinished drivers, bad gps, same 16GB internal but they could have 64 and average camera and cheap plastic to save on costs) so that they can copy iphone because they want some of their success. i personally hate iphone, but every other company copying them just drives apple to think they r the best.. and personally they did make the right choice on A5 to use powerVR543 because even dual VR 543 is faster than quad-core mali400, (big mistake for Samsung as mali400 alone is almost twice weaker than PowerVR 540 used in previous galaxy, which confirms in benchmarks) and NO 3D in galaxy S2 which puts LG optimus 3d and HTC evo 3D in front. and 3D is the future with more and more 3d movies out. and same wvga res that has been since winmo 6.0. sure u don't need the very highest res in a phone, but when u connect it to HDTV via hdmi u will have to rethink that, but then again does galaxy s2 even have HDMI?? On this site: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.htmldoesn't doesn't list hdmi or anything...
Here where things become worse building a phone with large surface area due to 4.27inch screen and full plastic yet copy iphone in trying to make as slim as possible makes it extremely breakable as the phone will slowly start bending over months as u keep it in ur pocket tightly while playing sports etc. This used to happen with motorola razer
And to top this off Android 2.3 DOES NOT fully support multiple cores, well it supports but doesn't take advantage till 3.0 honeycomb (or 3.1 for phones), so if samsung doesn't give u an update AGAIN, or rushes it out full of bugs like they did for galaxy s, ur phone will never see it's potential
And i also got a bit of info from a tweeter a few month back where it was said that samsung is working on quad-core processor for next year and chances are the next one will also be 3D. This goes well in line with guad-core Tegra 3 to be out this fall, and sony NGP already running quad-core.
Point is unlike galaxy S which had at least the best GPU on the market, Galaxy S2 doesn't have anything that stands out. Sure u have super amoled plus, but others will have higher res, and dual-core is MAINSTREAM now. And it will only be a matter of month before this phone be obliterated by it's succesor.
Also from the lawsuit that apple has recently put on samsung might force them to restart making innovative designs like they did prior "galaxy"
You're wrong in several different ways.
1- There's very little point in putting 64gb of storage on a phone. 16/32 internal + 16/32 sd card is way more than enough for me and for 99.9% of users;
2- Reviews of the sgs2 camera place it as one of the best in the market, not sure I'd call it average;
3- Apple's lawsuit is bs and I honestly doubt it will affect anything on the long run. Android and touch wiz are quite different from Ios in important ways;
4- Why do you need 3d on a phone? Where are the apps for it? Why would you watch a 3d movie on a 4.3 inch screen? It'd probably kill the battery before it was over. Maybe, it'll eventually offer some real world advantage, but right now it's just a gimmick;
5- The Sgs2 supports hdmi out via micro usb through mhl technology. Google it;
6- It's wrong to question the build quality and durability without having ever seen the phone upclose. So far, I've seen nothing but praise on reviews and previews. Plastic not only keeps costs down, it also lowers the weight. And since when is making a phone slim apple's idea?;
7- I don't have the expertise to comment on the cpu and gpu, but the benchmarks seemed impressive as hell to me;
8- Screen resolution could be higher, but super amoled technology is so far ahead of the curve that I bet it will more than make up for it.
In short, why upgrade to sgs 2? Best cpu on the market (according to engadget review), best screen on the market, one of the best cameras on the market, bt 3.0+hs, microusb hdmi out, usb on the go (according to gsm arena) and the fact that the galaxy s is already a great phone.
Obviously, there'll be a better phone, eventually, that's the way it is in the tech world, but right now it seems to be a fantastic device, as engadget review shows.
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I dont care the phone is sick and I can't wait to get one. I love my sammy captivate and knowing that's the same thing all jacked up is great. 3d is dumb especially on a phone. Plenty of storage. It will be great to finally have a flash. Super amoled is amazing so super plus is better...what more could you want. We don't need to dwell on tons of worthless info. The phone is gonna be sick and the best anybodies had. Everybody wants it and so do I.
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I am after a Galaxy Tab but I keep switching between wanting a 10 inch and wanting a 7 inch. The thing is, I definitely prefer the screen size of the 10 inch. I saw someone on the train this morning with an iPad 2 reading a PDF on it and I could immediately see the advantage of the screen size for this. I have several technical PDFs which will be the first thing that I put on it.
However, I need to commute with this device and the 7 inch tablets seem far better due to their size and weight. They just seem more practical and I even question whether a 10 inch would fit in my bag (it should do but it'll be a tight squeeze). I've noticed that Adobe Reader has a text flow feature which seems to work reasonably well (but not perfectly) which helps with these large PDFs.
I suppose I am the only one that can really answer which one is best for me but I wondered if anyone went through a similar dilemma and what decision they made? Was it the right decision?
In a way, the 8.9 is probably the perfect compromise but they are way too expensive here in the UK. To qualify that statement, I can only afford a 10.1 by buying a manufacturer refurbished unit and there don't seem to be any 8.9 refurbs on the market.
you posted in a tab 7+ forum which is why you would mostly get biased anwers. anyways, i hate 10 inch tablets 'cause they're too big. but one time, i also considered buying the GTab 10.1. however, by reading the 10.1 forum, I've read a lot of negative feedbacks on how much it lagged, etc. Try visiting the General section of the GTab 10.1.
Also take a sneak peek at the GSMArena comparison here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4208&idPhone2=3894
Specifically look for the processor power. GTab+ has a Dual Core Exynos 1.2GHz while the GTab 10.1 only has a Dual Core Tegra 1GHz. You can also look around the web why Exynos is better and faster than Tegra 2. I think the only reason why Tegra is better is because of the Tegra Games which BTW can also be played on Exynos chipsets by using the Chainfire 3d app (FREE).
Now if size and weight matters, it would always boil down to your preferences. If you like heavy, expensive, large screen, not-so-thin tablets, buy the GTab 10.1. But if you adore the little, light, not-so-expensive, thin tablets, buy the GTab+.
You would be surprised how much this little thing can do for you.
Good luck!
10.1 isn't exactly expensive - since it's been around longer, you can find refurbs for less than the Tab Plus.
It's really a matter of preference - the Plus has a better CPU, the 10.1 has a better screen (higher resolution, larger size), although the "larger size" aspect of the 10.1 isn't always a positive.
I've never found my 10.1 laggy
Gunnzie said:
I am after a Galaxy Tab but I keep switching between wanting a 10 inch and wanting a 7 inch
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Honestly who didn't giggle and say in their head "THATS what she said..."
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Hello fellas,
I have such a big dilemma in DETAILS between the LG Optimus 2x , Google Nexus S
Details:
Value: Nexus S : ~$330 avg.
O2X: ~$260 avg surprisingly
Performance: LG optimus 2x is the winner {Tegra 2 dual core cpu} even though Nvidia didn't release the damn source, => HW ACC on Cyanogenmod is fairly working (reverse engineering)
Physical specs: LG Optimus 2x also surprisingly better than the Nexus S in terms of durability and thickness, both Nexus S and the Galaxy S (i9000) gives the feeling of cheap material.
Display: LG Optimus 2x is the best. Gorilla Glass, S-LCD (used in iPhones retina), minus the Contour display that nexus S offers which bit sucks, especially fruit ninja lol (Also, there is Nexus S AMOLED, but +$60 bux away, Amoled=least life)
Cool tweak: An app that can control the navigation LEDs, e.g: Facebook notifcation is the home button, so it flashes as of the lack of Notification LED (Both phones lack)
Battery perf: Nexus S , somehow because of the single core CPU, but it should be Vice versa, Dual core uses less power at processing things less than 50% of load than a single core.
Style: Nexus S wins (opinion) not important anyways...
NFC: Nexus S, no need for it. not in my country
Thats against:
HDMI & External sotrage: Optimus 2x is the winner. (As both i might be using in the future, maybe not!)
Storage: LOL, 8GB NS = $300, 16GB O2X: $250 (did i hear dual core? YESS!!, WTF GOOGLE??)
Now the biggest part:
The hot damn software:
Nexus S is the 2nd phone to have the latest updates from Google. Well, Jelly-O Bean.
The LG Optimus still didn't recieve the damn ICS which was the major cons. However, its guaranteed to be release in Q3 of 2012.
My problem on the software side is, all I need is stability, mods (i know that these can be hardly combined)
O2x: GB 2.3.4
Nexus S: JB 4.1.0
IS software a major issue for regretting a $250 dual-core phone?
Sound Quality: Which is my 2nd major upgrade after performance, I should represent this as TIE, since both includes Wolfson DAC, Voodoo mod. But lack of Voodoo features in the O2X ( nvm, i only need AMP, hate external ones, sport-ish)
Others, connectivity, bluetooth etc, aren't major in difference.
As buying consideration,
Any opinion/suggestions/help are appreciated,
Thank you!
tpr0 said:
Hello fellas,
I have such a big dilemma in DETAILS between the LG Optimus 2x , Google Nexus S
Details:
Value: Nexus S : ~$330 avg.
O2X: ~$260 avg surprisingly
Performance: LG optimus 2x is the winner {Tegra 2 dual core cpu} even though Nvidia didn't release the damn source, => HW ACC on Cyanogenmod is fairly working (reverse engineering)
Physical specs: LG Optimus 2x also surprisingly better than the Nexus S in terms of durability and thickness, both Nexus S and the Galaxy S (i9000) gives the feeling of cheap material.
Display: LG Optimus 2x is the best. Gorilla Glass, S-LCD (used in iPhones retina), minus the Contour display that nexus S offers which bit sucks, especially fruit ninja lol (Also, there is Nexus S AMOLED, but +$60 bux away, Amoled=least life)
Cool tweak: An app that can control the navigation LEDs, e.g: Facebook notifcation is the home button, so it flashes as of the lack of Notification LED (Both phones lack)
Battery perf: Nexus S , somehow because of the single core CPU, but it should be Vice versa, Dual core uses less power at processing things less than 50% of load than a single core.
Style: Nexus S wins (opinion) not important anyways...
NFC: Nexus S, no need for it. not in my country
Thats against:
HDMI & External sotrage: Optimus 2x is the winner. (As both i might be using in the future, maybe not!)
Storage: LOL, 8GB NS = $300, 16GB O2X: $250 (did i hear dual core? YESS!!, WTF GOOGLE??)
Now the biggest part:
The hot damn software:
Nexus S is the 2nd phone to have the latest updates from Google. Well, Jelly-O Bean.
The LG Optimus still didn't recieve the damn ICS which was the major cons. However, its guaranteed to be release in Q3 of 2012.
My problem on the software side is, all I need is stability, mods (i know that these can be hardly combined)
O2x: GB 2.3.4
Nexus S: JB 4.1.0
IS software a major issue for regretting a $250 dual-core phone?
Sound Quality: Which is my 2nd major upgrade after performance, I should represent this as TIE, since both includes Wolfson DAC, Voodoo mod. But lack of Voodoo features in the O2X ( nvm, i only need AMP, hate external ones, sport-ish)
Others, connectivity, bluetooth etc, aren't major in difference.
As buying consideration,
Any opinion/suggestions/help are appreciated,
Thank you!
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ok what your saying about the screen is bollocks amoled is 1000 times better than that other s***
amoled has the best screen life ever i have a nexus one and its still going strong and still beats the s*** out of the washed out colors of the icrap 4/4s make the smart choice and go for the nexus s even though its single core its a better phone lg make stuff that fall apart after a few months of usage get the nexus s.period
the nexus s will get JB in the next few months that lg crap wont
Lg made a damn good phone, best bang for buck, screen excellent too. Sadly updates wise is very poor
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I <3 the O2X and dont actually care about the updates... custom roms for me... (the ICS roms are nearly there) PLUS THE HARDWARE ROCKS ( and design, I like that glass on the front and metal strip on back, NS looks a little weird and silly button arragements)
I'll suggest you the Nexus S, although I'm pretty confident you can get a better phone than both for the same money. But from these two, the Nexus S is a winner. Sure, the Optimus packs a dual-core CPU, but the Tegra 2 is technically the least powerful dual-core available. Not to mention software updates. LG are terrible at updating their phones.
The GPS on the Nexus S is pretty crappy though..... If that matters to you.
despotovski01 said:
I'll suggest you the Nexus S, although I'm pretty confident you can get a better phone than both for the same money. But from these two, the Nexus S is a winner. Sure, the Optimus packs a dual-core CPU, but the Tegra 2 is technically the least powerful dual-core available. Not to mention software updates. LG are terrible at updating their phones.
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It may be a "low end dual core" but its far superior to the NS. Updates may suck, s use custom roms
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As value....
Nexus S is $370 for what??!?!?!
O2X is for $250 here.
What do you think? What makes a push for 100+ $ to change my mind!!
or mindblowing?
tpr0 said:
As value....
Nexus S is $370 for what??!?!?!
O2X is for $250 here.
What do you think? What makes a push for 100+ $ to change my mind!!
or mindblowing?
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Get the O2X. Community is great and the LG UI 3.0 ICS ROM is AMAZING! and better specced... The Nexus S is like the 1ST Galaxy S phone
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weeo said:
Get the O2X. Community is great and the LG UI 3.0 ICS ROM is AMAZING! and better specced... The Nexus S is like the 1ST Galaxy S phone
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But the Nexus S feels quite confidant choice...
And, the LG Optimus 2x has bad stereo crosstalk.
Voodoo control only amps.
Battery life bit sucks...
And still no goddamn Nvidia source code, OR THE F LG ICS...
No sources is a big problem for me. Screw the ICS update, we want the sources!
A question to be answered :
If i buy the Nexus S, would it support me in the future, like doesnt look so much outdated, I dont need gaming...
Is it worth till this date?
Go on optimus 2x
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But the Nexus S feels quite confidant choice...
And, the LG Optimus 2x has bad stereo crosstalk.
Voodoo control only amps.
Battery life bit sucks...
And still no goddamn Nvidia source code, OR THE F LG ICS...
No sources is a big problem for me. Screw the ICS update, we want the sources!
A question to be answered :
If i buy the Nexus S, would it support me in the future, like doesnt look so much outdated, I dont need gaming...
Is it worth till this date?
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If your going by outdatedness, the NS is. Single Core processor, whereas the LG has better specs. Faster processsor and looks nicer.
There is support from LG giving the ICS update this month hopefully
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If you're a music junkie, the NS has full voodoo sound support while o2x only has hardware amp, and supercurio seems to have given up on it.
hey guyz, sorry for bumping this old thread..
I have chosen the Atrix 4G...
Sound quality + Performance meets at its best...
Just the lack of ICS upgrade, not a big issue to me, "'Leaks'" are nice
Voodoo support for it seems possible (more possibility than the O2X before...), i'm working on a port...
tpr0 said:
hey guyz, sorry for bumping this old thread..
I have chosen the Atrix 4G...
Sound quality + Performance meets at its best...
Just the lack of ICS upgrade, not a big issue to me, "'Leaks'" are nice
Voodoo support for it seems possible (more possibility than the O2X before...), i'm working on a port...
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How much did you pay for it? Waiting 2 weeks would get you the brand new nexus 4 for 300
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sy224048 said:
How much did you pay for it? Waiting 2 weeks would get you the brand new nexus 4 for 300
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220 bux. I bet the nexus ain't better in terms of sound quality. Only hit stream phones does have HQ. DACs
Why are there no high end 4" android phones? Does everyone think bigger is better?
This article raised a very good question I've been wondering for a while now too:
http://www.zdnet.com/dear-android-manufacturers-please-sell-me-the-phone-that-i-want-7000006437/
There are plenty of android phones to choose from. But every North American manufacturer's flagship phones are 4.6+ inches and they just seem to be getting bigger! I don't want a bigger phone...but I want flagship hardware. How many >4.5 inch android phones have top tier hardware (quadcore, HD screen, top end GPU). ZERO.:crying:
The one thing I think Apple has right is the size of the iPhone 5. It fits very comfortably in your hand. I can fit the Galaxy Nexus in one hand, but I cannot reach all areas of the screen with my thumb if I have 4 fingers gripping the side of the phone. I can stretch if I put my pinky on the bottom and only 3 on the side, but if I add a case to the mix then it becomes uncomfortable again.
Now I admit I have smaller hands, but I'm sure others have this issue as well. I just was shocked to read through the comments on the story to see how many people avidly almost "attacked" the author for his opinion. Thinking it was ridiculous to expect options like this. And that people with smaller hands should just be content with outdated hardware on smaller phones.
Anyone else who wish the sizes would go back down? Or at least have options of smaller models with the same high end hardware? Was really hoping for a 4-4.3" Nexus 4...but I know that's not going to happen Oh well...here's to hoping it might happen with the Nexus 5...
I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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to be honest i am absolutely agree with u.
now adays smartphone is used for browsing and multimedia rather than make a call and sms or email.
u can get samsung galaxy s3 mini at least.
IMHO. nexus series will look like this in the future. i believe google has make some kind of standardization of their phone model.
4.65 with a shape like galnex.
its not the screen size that i really concern. but the battery life...
There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.
The new Galaxy S3 Mini just came out! It has the SPECS of a flagship devices, but has a 4" screen!
I prefer big displays mainly because tiny onscreen keyboards are hard to use.
Alton (Halo 2) said:
There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
063_XOBX said:
Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.
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Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.
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4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.
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I didn't think about the buttons. I guess I couldn't really say unless I held it in my hands, but it seems noticeably smaller on paper:
Xiaomi MI-2 Dimensions:
126 x 62 x 10.2 mm (4.96 x 2.44 x 0.40 in)
VS
Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250 Dimensions:
135.5 x 67.9 x 8.9 mm (5.33 x 2.67 x 0.35 in)
Not a HUGE difference...again, I'd prefer a 4" phone where the difference would be more noticeable. But if these specs can be squeezed into 4.3" on the cheap from a no name brand, my point is it's definitely possible to do 4" from a big name brand manufacturer.
colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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It is a common idea in North America that "bigger is better," as well as "more is better." Just check out the average BMI in the US... kinda high up there.... and it ain't muscle mass.... check out Texas as an example.
I too was very concerned with my future phone before I upgraded to the Gnex. I had a 4.3" Droid Charge. I thought that anything over 4.5" was pushing my limits, but I slowly became very comfortable with the current Gnex size. However, I still do not want anything larger than 4.65"... so I'm hoping the future Nexus phones after the Nexus 4 don't get any bigger.
Side note: w00t SF Giants FTW!!!!!
I think the current nexus screen size is perfect imo
maybe the nexus 3 will grant your wish?
I guess your the odd one out that manufacturers don't care about
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High end Android phone will never be released in 4inch. That's how they make them different from iphone in the first place. There are more ppl want bigger phone. And tbh, ppl use both hand to type even on iphone... 4inch high end flagship phone is... meh... it will never happen..
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colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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Smokeey said:
The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/
A 4" top tier device now would probably be way more costly to manufacture than the usual 4.5"+ screen size device. And there will probably be very very few quad cores, if any in a device that small. Battery and all the other top tier accoutrements just won't be feasible. You will have to settle for a sacrifice somewhere. Last years top end specs in 4" form factor is probably best you can expect for a year or two.
Off topic but I wish Samsung took a chance on the galaxy premier and made it just like the nexus instead of Samsung's typical hardware button accompanied by two capacitive buttons. Better GPU and CPU. And add stock android. Samsung is probably too scared to lose any marketshare by alienating a device. What is wrong with taking small chances on a mid end device? All the people skipping the lg nexus 4 would probably take a serious at the i9260 if it had Google's now standard software navigation, with upgraded specs aaaaaaand a SD card slot. Smdh Samsung.
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iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/
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My point exactly though. You can't get true 720p in a 4 inch screen and if you did you'd have to use a microscope to read anything.
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From what I read they both have almost the same specs... Except infinity will be running pure android unlike s4 touch wiz..
Same ppi I think... 441 except infinity will sport an ips vs samoled...
Having an s3 and a Nexus 4 I think ips is better.
What makes the s4 better?
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From what I read they both have almost the same specs... Except infinity will be running pure android unlike s4 touch wiz..
Same ppi I think... 441 except infinity will sport an ips vs samoled...
Having an s3 and a Nexus 4 I think ips is better.
What makes the s4 better?
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it doesnt cost €1000
djbenny1 said:
it doesnt cost €1000
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I think you can purchase the phone separate without the tablet attachment for less
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Crisisx1 said:
From what I read they both have almost the same specs... Except infinity will be running pure android unlike s4 touch wiz..
Same ppi I think... 441 except infinity will sport an ips vs samoled...
Having an s3 and a Nexus 4 I think ips is better.
What makes the s4 better?
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Asus' devices are lightly skinned but not "pure Android (AOSP)." There's a ton of proprietary s/w on it to handle being a phone and a tablet when docked.
It's not available in the U.S. and the international versions have incompatible HSPA and LTE bands so you'd only get 2G data speeds if you imported one. You'd probably need to wait and see if a U.S. carrier picked it up if you really wanted one.
Ah! I love Asus, This is a company that think outside the box. I would be worried the phone get all scratched out by putting in and out the pad slot.
If you thought the HTC one has a stunning design, the Infinity takes it to the next level. It's definitely going to be a competitor on the performance front, the whole package with the tablet looks gorgeous. But that price tag is totally crazy.
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Ah! I love Asus, This is a company that think outside the box. I would be worried the phone get all scratched out by putting in and out the pad slot.
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I've always liked this idea of the Padfone, especially when you could also add the keyboard dock (I got the Asus Transformer Prime, and the dock is very useful).
This one looks great also, but there are a few things I don't like, and that show how much Samsung is good with its hardware design.
The S4 has a larger battery (2600 vs 2400), same screen size, more sensors (temperature, humidity), a removable battery, a microSD card slot and still manages to be a lot smaller (143.5 x 72.8 x 8.9 mm (LxWxH) for the PadFone and 136.6 x 69.8 x 7.9 mm for the Galaxy S4) and lighter than the Padfone (145 g vs 130 g).
Also, I love all the software features the S4 has, as well as the much improved camera compared to the S3
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Ah! I love Asus, This is a company that think outside the box. I would be worried the phone get all scratched out by putting in and out the pad slot.
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Not really. "think outside the box" is creativeness, but it lacks true innovation. For the true definition of innovation, you can search on internet (not wikipedia). Simply, innovation is bringing ideas to the reality with a big effect to the company's performance or the society.
Why did I say that? Asus has tried to show many many positive advantages of its products to people. They are true advantages, I agree, but just on the surface.
There first quad-core device (TF201) sounded great. First quadcore, IPS+ super bright display, gorgeous aluminum body with keyboard and quickest ICS update. But the quad-core had IO issue, performance was sooo laggy, bad build quality (cracking even aluminum), loosen screen and light bleeding, no GPS and weak wifi (metal body and very bad cheap wifi radio from Azura), mono sound and super buggy update. Oh one of the biggest Flop.
The first Padfone: it's brilliant idea becoming true after more than a year and many people were bored. When the device came out, it's so heavy and buggy (resolution conflict between phone and tablet pad). Expensive price.
The first Full-HD Android Tablet: long delayed device also. Like TF201, it was PR as a powerful device with a simirlar story: Full HD screen IPS+ super bright display, 1.6Ghz quad-core, changing in design with better GPS and wifi, quickest update. But performance wasstill bad (garbage Tegra 3 IO issue), updates were still buggy, screen was still loosen or light bleed, wifi chipset was still Azura's. Oh luckily this time it's still much better than tf201.
Padfone 2: good device but too expensive. Keyboard dock was no longer available on Padfone series. This phone was "died" after announcing few months because of Padfone Infinity
Padfone Infinity: I had some Asus devices and I don't wanna try anymore, but this one seems to be good. Unfortunately, it's only available in some areas with small number. Price is sooo expensive. I think people will continue considering it is as something inside the art museum, not for use.
Overall, Asus always has great ideas, but it lacks of making comprehensive devices, good marketing with reasonable price, making the "creative ideas" cannot become "innovations"
hung2900 said:
Overall, Asus always has great ideas, but it lacks of making comprehensive devices, good marketing with reasonable price, making the "creative ideas" cannot become "innovations"
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And you left out execution which is an area Asus has always struggled. If you look at the PadFone forums, oh wait, you can't because there aren't any. One of the biggest potential downsides of any device anyone buys is it becoming an orphan. Unlike a TV that will function fine for years as-is mobile devices need updates to be able to continue taking advantage of new features and apps. And even if they functioned fine without updates I think, especially at the high-end, we all expect them.
Niche products like PadFone don't get the same attention higher volume products do. Even from Asus who has a pretty good update track record. Last year Panasonic made a huge declaration that they were going to re-enter the EU in a big way in mobile. They changed their mind six months later and are now considering exiting the mobile business completely. And Panasonic is a far larger company then Asus. Samsung and LG are here to stay. Sony seems to be but so did Panasonic and Sony's not doing so hot financially. HTC's hemorrhaging financially too which could affect their future. Motorola’s here to stay but they turned their backs on pre-Google devices once (no JB for 2011 phones even though promised) so their view on past device support will probably get even more sketchy post-Phone X as they turn their attention to the future. All the rest? Who knows? How long will it take someone who bought an Oppo Find online here in the U.S. to get a cracked screen replaced out of warranty? There's more to buying a device than its display and SoC and "cool features."
Actually the S4 vs Padfone is no contest. The thread should be HTC One vs Padfone as they have almost the same specs.
BTW: I have a little love for Asus cause last time I bricked my TF101 they exchanged it no question asked.:good:
BarryH_GEG said:
Asus' devices are lightly skinned but not "pure Android (AOSP)." There's a ton of proprietary s/w on it to handle being a phone and a tablet when docked.
It's not available in the U.S. and the international versions have incompatible HSPA and LTE bands so you'd only get 2G data speeds if you imported one. You'd probably need to wait and see if a U.S. carrier picked it up if you really wanted one.
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According to GSMArena, the PadFone Inifinity supports LTE 2100 which is what ATT uses. http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_padfone_infinity-5328.php
willhang said:
According to GSMArena, the PadFone Inifinity supports LTE 2100 which is what ATT uses. http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_padfone_infinity-5328.php
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Sorry for resurrecting a dead thread, but AT&T doesn't use LTE 2100.
However, ASUS did hint at a US specific version being announced at Computex. Knowing AT&T's openness to new types of devices (OG Galaxy Notes, that Pantech phone that was a square, the Samsung smart PC, etc) I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes an AT&T phone.