So yesterday I purchased a nokia lumia 820 from this lady on craigslist. Took it home and tried to make a phone call, I was told the phone was blocked. After calling AT&T the representative told me the phone was blacklisted. I asked if I could turn it over to the person who it originally belonged to and they said no. They could;t give me any info on the person. Asked if I could turn the phone over to them and I was told no again. So i have a phone I payed $120 for and can't do anything with. Is there anything I can do? Change the imei number to the one in my nokia lumia 900? I'm frustrated, I got ripped off.
marquavious said:
So yesterday I purchased a nokia lumia 820 from this lady on craigslist. Took it home and tried to make a phone call, I was told the phone was blocked. After calling AT&T the representative told me the phone was blacklisted. I asked if I could turn it over to the person who it originally belonged to and they said no. They could;t give me any info on the person. Asked if I could turn the phone over to them and I was told no again. So i have a phone I payed $120 for and can't do anything with. Is there anything I can do? Change the imei number to the one in my nokia lumia 900? I'm frustrated, I got ripped off.
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any blacklisted gsm smartphones from att or tmobile will not be working on either network. tmo and att have this shared blacklist now and prevent any blacklisted, insurance claimed phones etc to be on their networks. so yes you are burnt, happened to me with a gs3 from att. unless you sell it overseas. but in the USA it wont work even on straight talk, h20, simple,etc
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Hey guys, I'm new here and I had a couple of questions before I bought a used Fuze. Right now I have verizon and I am switching over to att because my contract is over.
1. I am scared to buy a used fuze because if I buy a used one from someone and it is stolen can it still be activated?
I know that if I buy a verizon phone that is stolen then it can't be activated.
not sure how you handle it in usa but in europe I never had to activate any phone
just pop in the sim and type in the sim code
heard about the aktivating in usa in relation to iphones
The thing is that I'm gonna sign a 2 year contract with att, I just wanted to know if I buy a used phone and it is stolen will I still be able to use it.
I am not going to take a chance on buying a stolen phone if I can't use it.
Get a phone you know for sure isn't stolen, make sure it comes with all the accessories and box and then you can feel safe.
Do not buy a phone if you know it is stolen, that is both illegal and wrong.
if you buy a stolen phone which have been reported stolen the police give
the IMEI number hardcoded in the phone to the operators to be added to their
block of service list in the country
and other countries the operators have a working relationship with
Ya ok, then the best thing to do is buy a new phone.
I was saying that if I buy a used phone and it is stolen then I wouldn't be able to activate it.
I didn't mean to say I WAS gonna buy a stolen phone, no no.
Thanks guys. Goin to get it in an hour!
if you're signing a 2 yr contract anyways, why not get a subsidized phone straight from ATT. up until a few days ago, wireless att com website had the refurbished Fuze for FREE w/ 2yr contract. just checked website now and it is out of stock. they go in-out of stock so call in and ask.
atlaswing said:
if you're signing a 2 yr contract anyways, why not get a subsidized phone straight from ATT. up until a few days ago, wireless att com website had the refurbished Fuze for FREE w/ 2yr contract. just checked website now and it is out of stock. they go in-out of stock so call in and ask.
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Thats a deal, I'll call them and ask about it. Thanks
Here in the USA we don't have the IMEI blocking service, even if the phone was stolen you can still use it. When my Blackberry was stolen I called AT&T to report it and all they could do was block my PIN from the device and not the device itself. It's not like Verizon or in any other country.
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Here in the USA we don't have the IMEI blocking service, even if the phone was stolen you can still use it. When my Blackberry was stolen I called AT&T to report it and all they could do was block my PIN from the device and not the device itself. It's not like Verizon or in any other country.
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verizon uses CDMA... if (for whatever reason) you need to change phones, you have to go through Verizon to activate the ESN(cdma version of IMEI) on the phone to tie to your Verizon account
for GSM, as long as the phone is unlocked, just slip the SIM card into in and the phone should work
one reason why i like GSM better: you don't have to do much to get a replacement phone
Hello, I got tricked into buying a phone that cannot be activated in Sprint. I was in a rush to get a phone for a surprise and just convinced a guy to meet me at work one day so I didn't check with sprint. He said the phone had a clean ESN and that he paid to cancel his plan. My girlfriend went to Sprint to trade to change phones (her screen broke) but they told her the phone was still activated.
So my question is, can I trade ESNs numbers (her LG Elite's into the galaxy S2), or can I simply add another ESNs number and go back to Sprint?
I do understand cloning ESNs is illegal but she owns both phones, and if it is possible what program could I use?
Thank you so much for your time and input.
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Hello, I got tricked into buying a phone that cannot be activated in Sprint. I was in a rush to get a phone for a surprise and just convinced a guy to meet me at work one day so I didn't check with sprint. He said the phone had a clean ESN and that he paid to cancel his plan. My girlfriend went to Sprint to trade to change phones (her screen broke) but they told her the phone was still activated.
So my question is, can I trade ESNs numbers (her LG Elite's into the galaxy S2), or can I simply add another ESNs number and go back to Sprint?
I do understand cloning ESNs is illegal but she owns both phones, and if it is possible what program could I use?
Thank you so much for your time and input.
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You will not find any help here on this matter. XDA doesnt condone IMEI/ESN cloning in any way shape or form.
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Normally when you buy the phone from a carrier, and if you loose your phone, call in and get it blacklisted and people can check the database to see if it blacklisted and all that good stuff...
I bought my N5 from Google Play and can use it on any carrier, so if its lost/stolen, do I call the current carrier and have them blacklist it?
What if someone got a hold of my IMEI and called to get it blacklisted.. how would I go about getting it unblacklisted if I wasnt the one who called it in???
Does google have their own blacklisting database?
I'm pretty sure your carrier will not blacklist the phone till the caller can confirm that they are the owner of the phone (maybe by carrier's records, or by proof of purchase etc).
But since the N5 can be used on other carriers, a carrier blacklist is really not sufficient (if the phone is stolen). I would certainly hope that Google has their own blacklist that will prevent the device from accessing any google services.
I found a story on somewere else of an user whose Google play. N5 got blacklisted by Spring
These are 2 quotes fro the same person:
AIO's website says my Google Nexus 5 is on the lost and stolen list?
Device Reported Lost or Stolen
Our records show that this device is on the national lost and stolen list. Please contact the company that previously provided wireless service for this device for help.
Aio Wireless cannot activate a device that another wireless company added to this list.
This phone was purchased from the Google Play Store. It's been on RingPlus, and StraightTalk (which it's currently on). Is it possible that someone marked it lost or stolen, but it's still working without any problems on ST? It might have been on Net10, I did have the SIM card in it, but I don't think it was active.
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I just got off the phone with Google support. That took around an hour of my time. The Google rep was quite lost on to why in the world Sprint would EVER blacklist phones that were not lost or stolen and have no contracts with them. I was put on hold a couple of times, and I explained what happened. After talking to him, I was transferred to the shipping dept (which apparently takes care of all returns for any reason).
The rep in the shipping dept was very nice, but he kept wanting to give me a refurbished phone for something I never did anything wrong with to begin with. My battery is charged at 50% all the time and I don't want to get stuck with a used phone or a bad battery. I kept telling the rep that I even have an email from RingPlus explaining the situation and that my phone was activated before they knew of this secret blacklist that included Google Play store purchases. He told me he would talk to his lead, came back, and claims that they will be sending me a new device. I don't know if I'm actually getting a used or new device, but at least when it comes it will hopefully not be blacklisted.
I was hoping to switch over to another carrier to save a few dollars each month. So after a $431 dollar hold was put onto my credit card, I guess I wait 3-5 business days and see what I end up receiving in the mail. I'll have to reorder one of the glass screen protectors for my device.
I guess this was a learning experience. Be very careful what CDMA carriers can do to your devices, because they need to have the numbers for it as they can't just pop in a SIM card and go. I'm not sure I will ever be using a Sprint or Verizon MVNO again, or at least for quite a while, and wouldn't ever do it with any devices less then a few months old.
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Original article. http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...Google-Nexus-5-is-on-the-lost-and-stolen-list
Not sure about the US, but in europe some countries/carriers have joint IMEI databases. If one carrier marks the IMEI as stolen the phone won't work on any carrier in that country.
Sent from my Nexus 5
liud said:
Not sure about the US, but in europe some countries/carriers have joint IMEI databases. If one carrier marks the IMEI as stolen the phone won't work on any carrier in that country.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I know this.. thats the situation with in Canada, US and so on... that wasnt my question...
I have a question, but I need to give some info on my situation first. I used to have a HTC One M8 from T-Mobile, and because my Wife lives in sonoita Az, the only decent carrier that works out there is Verizon. So I switched from T-Mobile to Verizon. My experience with Verizon in the short amount of time that I've had with them, is not very good to say the least. So let's say I switched back to T-Mobile, but didn't return my Verizon M8 or my Note 3, could I still use it on T-Mobile since its unlocked, or would they flag my IMEI number like they do with ESN numbers and so that I cannot use the phone anywhere, or what ? Please let me know what you think....
Last I heard even if they blacklist your imei on Verizon it'll still work if it's a 4g phone. That being said Verizon blacklisting your phone from them should have no affect on whether it works on T-Mobile.
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As long as it's not blacklisted for lost or stolen it will work on tmobile
No, it's not blacklisted as lost or stolen. I just don't want Verizon service anymore. They do not have unlimited data for LTE for sale anymore that's why I'm going back to T-Mobile. T-Mobile may not have the best coverage, but I like their plans and their customer service a whole lot better thanks Verizon's.
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As long as it's not blacklisted for lost or stolen it will work on tmobile
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You can Google tmobile imei check and run the imei and it will tell you if it can be used on their network.
cjegan2008 said:
No, it's not blacklisted as lost or stolen. I just don't want Verizon service anymore. They do not have unlimited data for LTE for sale anymore that's why I'm going back to T-Mobile. T-Mobile may not have the best coverage, but I like their plans and their customer service a whole lot better thanks Verizon's.
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If it comes back blacklisted, you can still get the imei repaired which is legal because your bringing it back to the original carrier, but they just past legislation making carrier unlocking your phone perfectly legal. Many larger phone repair places can do imei repair, there are some on ebay that do it also, some can even do it remotely for you over the net through the teamviewer software.
They are getting ready to shut down their 3G towers, so all old devices must be purged. So they sent me some Samsung phone for free, then shut off my 1+6. WTF? The girl insisted that "the list" is always right, even though this phone has been LTE for years.
It's not just being LTE capable, it also needs to be VoLTE capable, which the 6 is, but is incorrectly listed on their blacklist. I've seen reddit threads that talk of AT&T customers taking the issue up with tech support and they've been able to whitelist their individual phone (reportedly).
I'm currently running my 6 with VoLTE enabled on Consumer Cellular (MVNO) using AT&T so am hoping that the blacklist is not enforced via IMEI. Come February I'll find out.
AT&T customer support doesn't have a clue....escalate!
Switch to T-Mobile. It is the ONLY way. AT&T don't care. I filed an FCC complaint and even that didn't really work unless you are willing to hire a lawyer.
Having the same experience. Spent hours on the phone with them. They actually shiped me some $75 replacment phone. Talked to over 20 people from AT&T all were clueless and gave me different answers. Some said my phone would work, others said it wouldn't.
Finnally they actually put a note on my account that my Oneplus 6 would still work, so if it doesn't work I'll hvae it in writing and I'll ask them for an account credit of $800 (the cost of my oneplus)
I had the same happen to me with ATT sending me a Galaxy S9 refurb.
I explained to customer service and also escalated up to the manager who basically was useless and said we can't do anything to whitelist the device. It basically comes down to the idiots at ATT not having tested the OP6 and so they just blacklisted all IMEIs associated with OP6.
I even swapped out my SIM card with another iphone SE which has VoLTE and the VoLTE lit up on my phone for a few seconds before I lost service completely as stupid ATT automatically blacklisted the SIM and the device claiming fraudulent activity and I had to spend another half hour getting my service restored on both the phones but still no VoLTE on the OP6 because it is ATT.
ATT is absolutely the crappiest customer centric company.
Nearly switched to TMo before the hacking news broke so waiting a bit before switching out of ATT after more than 15 years of service with them.
ATT enabled VOLTE on my phone a few weeks ago without me even asking for it.
They had somehow suspended my number and completely booted my phone off the network -- I took it to an ATT store, they worked their magic and within 5 minutes it was back online _with_ VOLTE!
The easiest way is to change imei i just changed my device imei for a supported imei by att and it works like a charm
If the 6 won't work why do they have to block it? Any why put a hold on the phone number not the imei or sim? Picked up a TMobile sim and it works great.