Hey guys, I'm new here and I had a couple of questions before I bought a used Fuze. Right now I have verizon and I am switching over to att because my contract is over.
1. I am scared to buy a used fuze because if I buy a used one from someone and it is stolen can it still be activated?
I know that if I buy a verizon phone that is stolen then it can't be activated.
not sure how you handle it in usa but in europe I never had to activate any phone
just pop in the sim and type in the sim code
heard about the aktivating in usa in relation to iphones
The thing is that I'm gonna sign a 2 year contract with att, I just wanted to know if I buy a used phone and it is stolen will I still be able to use it.
I am not going to take a chance on buying a stolen phone if I can't use it.
Get a phone you know for sure isn't stolen, make sure it comes with all the accessories and box and then you can feel safe.
Do not buy a phone if you know it is stolen, that is both illegal and wrong.
if you buy a stolen phone which have been reported stolen the police give
the IMEI number hardcoded in the phone to the operators to be added to their
block of service list in the country
and other countries the operators have a working relationship with
Ya ok, then the best thing to do is buy a new phone.
I was saying that if I buy a used phone and it is stolen then I wouldn't be able to activate it.
I didn't mean to say I WAS gonna buy a stolen phone, no no.
Thanks guys. Goin to get it in an hour!
if you're signing a 2 yr contract anyways, why not get a subsidized phone straight from ATT. up until a few days ago, wireless att com website had the refurbished Fuze for FREE w/ 2yr contract. just checked website now and it is out of stock. they go in-out of stock so call in and ask.
atlaswing said:
if you're signing a 2 yr contract anyways, why not get a subsidized phone straight from ATT. up until a few days ago, wireless att com website had the refurbished Fuze for FREE w/ 2yr contract. just checked website now and it is out of stock. they go in-out of stock so call in and ask.
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Thats a deal, I'll call them and ask about it. Thanks
Here in the USA we don't have the IMEI blocking service, even if the phone was stolen you can still use it. When my Blackberry was stolen I called AT&T to report it and all they could do was block my PIN from the device and not the device itself. It's not like Verizon or in any other country.
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Here in the USA we don't have the IMEI blocking service, even if the phone was stolen you can still use it. When my Blackberry was stolen I called AT&T to report it and all they could do was block my PIN from the device and not the device itself. It's not like Verizon or in any other country.
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verizon uses CDMA... if (for whatever reason) you need to change phones, you have to go through Verizon to activate the ESN(cdma version of IMEI) on the phone to tie to your Verizon account
for GSM, as long as the phone is unlocked, just slip the SIM card into in and the phone should work
one reason why i like GSM better: you don't have to do much to get a replacement phone
Couldn't find a section for this phone. Anyways, my dad bought one of these and the guy he bought it off apparently stopped paying his account. Sprint locked the phone and he's trying to reactivate it elsewhere that is not Metro. Is there anything he can do? I read something about rewriting the esn but I have no idea. Help, please
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Unfortunately until the past due balance is paid, the only line that device will be able to be activated on is the one that is suspended. NOW, if the account is not completely cut off, the other person can activate a crappy esn or a defective device for that matter, and that will instantly free up the Transform.
So the person would just have to activate a crappy phone and transfer the esn? Like activate said crappy phone as the main one?
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As This is my first post i would like to introduce myself, My name is Brian aka HoBo_Man. Ive been lurking around and gathering great information from XDA and decided this would be a great community to be involved with. So here i am with my first question as im not too fond of Sprint and there 90 day ESN clearing that I've read about. Well heres the deal a while back i bought this Evo 3D from a friend at work with a known bad ESN from past bills owed on the phone. Well just checking my self i checked the ESN on free esn checking site and sure enough it came back bad. Ok so decide to just let the phone collect some dust for about a month and a half, then decided to check it again since I've read about these rumors of sprint clearing the ESN's. Well the site said the ESN is good now? Is this a legitimate site to check ESN or should i investigate further? If i sell this phone i don't want to state that it's clean if it's not?
Also another quick question. Recently bought another Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II with a known (Bill owed). Well the guy sold me the phone thinking the ESN was going to be bad because of the bill. Well i just checked the ESN (On free ESN check site?) and it came back good? The phone i know has been disconnected for about 2-3 weeks now. My question is does it take sprint a while to black list the ESN after disconnection? Or do some phones get lucky and slip their mind?
Any help is really appreciated in advance. Thanks.
Total invested in these phones
Evo 3D - $30.00
Galaxy S II - $35.00
Also is their any evo 3d Tuts on flashing to straight talk or is it like the galaxy s ii flash? Or what are the dial passwords for the main settings of the evolution?
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So here's my situation:
I (unwisely) continued to share a Verizon plan with my soon to be ex husband. The plan is in his name, and out of anger and spite he has suspended my line numerous time. I would like to flash my Samsung Galaxy S3 to a prepaid plan. I know that the account is overdue at this point and I believe that could possibly make my ESN bad? Can I unlock the phone and then flash it? The phone is literally 5 days old so I would like to be able to use it.
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Ashley
I just used my upgrade to get a vzw m8 with the intention of selling it, then bolting to tmobile. I plan to be on the hook for my etf for 350, which I expect tmobile to eventually pay in 8 to 12 weeks.... Will my m8 get BLACKLISTED if I try this? I would assume not. My thinking is that's what the ETF is covering... Am I correct? I don't wanna sell a phone that has been blacklisted. Thanks
ebuechler3 said:
I just used my upgrade to get a vzw m8 with the intention of selling it, then bolting to tmobile. I plan to be on the hook for my etf for 350, which I expect tmobile to eventually pay in 8 to 12 weeks.... Will my m8 get BLACKLISTED if I try this? I would assume not. My thinking is that's what the ETF is covering... Am I correct? I don't wanna sell a phone that has been blacklisted. Thanks
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You should be good. I have sold phones purchased at on contract prices prior to my contract being up and had no issues.
I have 2 lines of service that I'm terminating and was gonna pay $100 a month until etf is paid by tmobile... Hopefully that will keep my phone's from being blacklisted!!
I thought when tmobile or even sprint now for that matter, dont they make you turn in your phone from your old carrier ? I assumed that was the case, so they can sell off your old phone to pay towards your old carriers etf they are paying off ? Am I wrong here because it makes sense that you would have to turn your phone in to them in the deal ?
The ESN will only be blacklisted if it is reported to be stolen or lost.
Some companies will not accept other companies' ESN (like Sprint and Verizon,) but with advance of LTE sim cards, this might be a moot point.
In any case, there's no reason why someone else cannot use your phone, unless you report it lost/stolen.
You have to trade in the m8 to T-Mobile in order for them to pay the etf. Since its brand new, I'd just return it to Verizon and cancel your contract outright. It will save you time and money in the long run.
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justin94 said:
You have to trade in the m8 to T-Mobile in order for them to pay the etf. Since its brand new, I'd just return it to Verizon and cancel your contract outright. It will save you time and money in the long run.
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What he said. You can't sell the phone because T-Mobile gets the phone, and you also have to buy one of theirs. Better idea - just stick with Verizon. Everyone's prices are going down these days, Verizon should be next. But even if you just stopped paying Verizon (without covering the ETF), then yes, your phone would get blacklisted. It is not just lost or stolen phones, it's unpaid bills that get your blacklisted too. Source: I deal with this stuff every day.
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What he said. You can't sell the phone because T-Mobile gets the phone, and you also have to buy one of theirs. Better idea - just stick with Verizon. Everyone's prices are going down these days, Verizon should be next. But even if you just stopped paying Verizon (without covering the ETF), then yes, your phone would get blacklisted. It is not just lost or stolen phones, it's unpaid bills that get your blacklisted too. Source: I deal with this stuff every day.
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Are you saying that Verizon will "blacklist" a Verizon ESN phone for not paying Verizon bills?
This is ridiculous.
How do they "blacklist" your sim slot?
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Are you saying that Verizon will "blacklist" a Verizon ESN phone for not paying Verizon bills?
This is ridiculous.
How do they "blacklist" your sim slot?
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nabbed said:
Are you saying that Verizon will "blacklist" a Verizon ESN phone for not paying Verizon bills?
This is ridiculous.
How do they "blacklist" your sim slot?
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Are you serious? I don't even know what you're trying to ask about "blacklisting a SIM slot", they blacklist the IMEI of the phone (it doesn't matter if you use your Verizon HTC One M8 on AT&T or T-Mobile - regardless of what SIM is in your SIM slot, your IMEI is the same), which typically all of the major carriers share now. You go to make a call and it says "this phone has been blocked from network usage."
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Are you serious? I don't even know what you're trying to ask about "blacklisting a SIM slot", they blacklist the IMEI of the phone (it doesn't matter if you use your Verizon HTC One M8 on AT&T or T-Mobile - regardless of what SIM is in your SIM slot, your IMEI is the same), which typically all of the major carriers share now. You go to make a call and it says "this phone has been blocked from network usage."
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Are you saying that there's a global database of "blacklisted" phones? Which every carrier now uses? Even gsm carriers, which don't even use ESN?
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Are you saying that there's a global database of "blacklisted" phones? Which every carrier now uses? Even gsm carriers, which don't even use ESN?
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LTE is an evolution of GSM (more or less). LTE phones have an IMEI. Take out your M8 and go to Settings > About > Phone Identity and look at the third line, which is your IMEI (not your ESN), or look at the box and notice that you don't see an ESN (o an MEID), but you do see an IMEI. Then look at the 6th line, which is your ICC ID, AKA your SIM card number. The IMEI does not change (without flashing), no matter which SIM card you put in the phone, and it it what is used to identify your phone.
And yes, there is a global IMEI blacklist, it's even mentioned on the GSMA's website (and Verizon Wireless is a member of GSMA).
http://www.gsma.com/technicalprojects/fraud-security/imei-database
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LTE is an evolution of GSM (more or less). LTE phones have an IMEI. Take out your M8 and go to Settings > About > Phone Identity and look at the third line, which is your IMEI (not your ESN), or look at the box and notice that you don't see an ESN (o an MEID), but you do see an IMEI. Then look at the 6th line, which is your ICC ID, AKA your SIM card number. The IMEI does not change (without flashing), no matter which SIM card you put in the phone, and it it what is used to identify your phone.
And yes, there is a global IMEI blacklist, it's even mentioned on the GSMA's website (and Verizon Wireless is a member of GSMA).
http://www.gsma.com/technicalprojects/fraud-security/imei-database
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Take an lte sim and pop it into a phone that supports it.
Are you saying that sometimes it won't work because a carrier has blacklisted your phone?
I'm saying that in order for T-Mobile to pay your Verizon etf, you need to turn in the eligible device (m8). Without it, they will jot pay the etf. Verizon will also block the phone from being used on any major carrier.
Don't try to cheat this system. It will come back on you.
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If verizon blacklists your imei number it wont work for basically any carrier in the USA unless the imei is repaired, but the phone blacklisted in the USA can still be used in other countries as no other countries care about an imei that is blacklisted in the USA.