I already update my relay to JB 4.1.2 stock firmware through kies, but want to know if anyone has tried to patch it with open droid to better managment of app permissions.
Thanks in advance!
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Hey everyone
I've only ever hacked my phones one way, from stock to custom. Today the 4.1.2 official firmware came out for the Bell S2 i9100, and I'd like to give it a go. I'm expecting that I won't get an OTA update since I'm modded, and there's nowhere under the "about phone" section for me to tell it to look for an update.
What is the easiest way to get back to stock? Do I need to download the new 4.1.2 and flash via Odin? Is there a way to tell my phone to go back to stock, and then do the update?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Hey there,
I just got a Samsung Galaxy S Relay and I am trying to figure out if I should upgrade it to Jelly Bean and which version.
The phone is not rooted, I am a newbie and I do not have a custom rom in there.
Before I do this, can I go back to ics if I don't like jb for some reason?
thanks so much
JD421 said:
Hey there,
I just got a Samsung Galaxy S Relay and I am trying to figure out if I should upgrade it to Jelly Bean and which version.
The phone is not rooted, I am a newbie and I do not have a custom rom in there.
Before I do this, can I go back to ics if I don't like jb for some reason?
thanks so much
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you should unlock it while on stock ics (read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892 - method works only on ics) and then you may update to stock jb/root/custom rom.
there is cyanogenmod 10.2 custom rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405310 - or you can use stock, root it and debloat.
yes, it is possible to revert to stock ics.
LitD said:
you should unlock it while on stock ics (read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892 - method works only on ics) and then you may update to stock jb/root/custom rom.
there is cyanogenmod 10.2 custom rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405310 - or you can use stock, root it and debloat.
yes, it is possible to revert to stock ics.
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Thank you for that. I think I am too new to try a custom rom and root. I can suffer with the bloat because unlike the captivate, this phone, w a keyboard, has 4 gb for apps. on the captivate it had about 1.5 gb for apps after the os was installed. i really don't know what a custom rom is, really.
i watched a video comparing the jb to the ics and my 4.0.4 ics appeared to have almost all the improvements of the jb, so i don't know what the pros or cons would be upgrading to the jb, (I assume the latest jb version)
the last thing i want to do is slow my phone down, ruin battery life, or reduce my app space etc so i am just trying to get a feel for the pros of doing something like this.
ps i did hear it would make my phone faster....
JD421 said:
Thank you for that. I think I am too new to try a custom rom and root. I can suffer with the bloat because unlike the captivate, this phone, w a keyboard, has 4 gb for apps. on the captivate it had about 1.5 gb for apps after the os was installed. i really don't know what a custom rom is, really.
i watched a video comparing the jb to the ics and my 4.0.4 ics appeared to have almost all the improvements of the jb, so i don't know what the pros or cons would be upgrading to the jb, (I assume the latest jb version)
the last thing i want to do is slow my phone down, ruin battery life, or reduce my app space etc so i am just trying to get a feel for the pros of doing something like this.
ps i did hear it would make my phone faster....
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the latest stock is jb 4.1.2
i do not know if stock jb is faster than stock ics as i have no experience with stock ics. cyanogenmod is faster than stock, but i use debloated stock jb anyway.
bloatware running in the background can slow down the phone.
I have a rooted SCH-I535 running stock 4.1.2. I am still getting OTA update notices every five minutes and it is time to move on to 4.3. What has has been your experience out there? My goals are:
1) to keep root, and
2) run 4.3 stock and have the option to play around with 4.4 ROMs.
Should I OTA to 4.3 then root? From what I have read, it may not be possible to flash custom ROM's this way. Can I get 4.3 ROMs and 4.4 ROMs another way? What is the best method from a rooted 4.1.2?
Thanks from an noob.
Ryan
uiryan said:
I have a rooted SCH-I535 running stock 4.1.2. I am still getting OTA update notices every five minutes and it is time to move on to 4.3. What has has been your experience out there? My goals are:
1) to keep root, and
2) run 4.3 stock and have the option to play around with 4.4 ROMs.
Should I OTA to 4.3 then root? From what I have read, it may not be possible to flash custom ROM's this way. Can I get 4.3 ROMs and 4.4 ROMs another way? What is the best method from a rooted 4.1.2?
Thanks from an noob.
Ryan
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If you take the OTA 4.3 update your boot loader will be locked and you will not be able to do anything that you said. If you have Titanium Pro use it to freeze "SDM 1.0" that will stop the update nags. If you want to go to 4. 3 you will find a rooted, stock 4.3 rom with an unlocked boot loader developed and posted by "Old&Slow" at this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895
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If you take the OTA 4.3 update your boot loader will be locked and you will not be able to do anything that you said. If you have Titanium Pro use it to freeze "SDM 1.0" that will stop the update nags. If you want to go to 4. 3 you will find a rooted, stock 4.3 rom with an unlocked boot loader developed and posted by "Old&Slow" at this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895
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Huge thanks for the SDM freeze tip. That was my primary nuisance. It worked perfectly.I followed the link you provided. The ROM seems to be a bit buggy. Are a lot of you staying with 4.1.2? I like the idea of cloud printing and a few other updates, but I don't know if I want to risk my flash going off every time my phone rings. Can anyone recommend a good 4.4 ROM that can be flashed from my current state?
In general, the 4.4 ROM's are going to be a little more "buggy" when compared to a custom TW 4.3 ROM. From my understanding of this it's due to the devs being able to use the official OTA as a base and just customize it. I've ran both and prefer the custom TW 4.3 ROMs. To each their own however.
If you want to stay as close as OTA as possible, scrosler has posted a 4.3 ROM on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III Android Development thread. It's titled, "[ROM][1/27/14] - Stock Rooted Knoxless - VRUCML1 - Android 4.3 - Stay Classy XDA!". I'd link you but don't have that ability yet on the forum.
RipCity12 said:
In general, the 4.4 ROM's are going to be a little more "buggy" when compared to a custom TW 4.3 ROM. From my understanding of this it's due to the devs being able to use the official OTA as a base and just customize it. I've ran both and prefer the custom TW 4.3 ROMs. To each their own however.
If you want to stay as close as OTA as possible, scrosler has posted a 4.3 ROM on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III Android Development thread. It's titled, "[ROM][1/27/14] - Stock Rooted Knoxless - VRUCML1 - Android 4.3 - Stay Classy XDA!". I'd link you but don't have that ability yet on the forum.
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Hey just you know 4.4 ROMS do not use the OTA as a base. The OTA is 4.3 first of all. 2nd its Touchwiz. 4.4 ROMs are AOSP only. Not Touchwiz. Now 4.4 ROMs just like any AOSP ROM use the Stock AOSP source code from Google as a Base (stock AOSP like on a Nexus) and then merge in device specific proprietary drivers after. They are buggy at first especially the modem/radio because we have to reverse engineer those proprietary drivers from Samsung to work on AOSP. Blame Samsung for not releasing source code for the modem.
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Sandman-007 said:
Hey just you know 4.4 ROMS do not use the OTA as a base. The OTA is 4.3 first of all. 2nd its Touchwiz. 4.4 ROMs are AOSP only. Not Touchwiz. Now 4.4 ROMs just like any AOSP ROM use the Stock AOSP source code from Google as a Base (stock AOSP like on a Nexus) and then merge in device specific proprietary drivers after. They are buggy at first especially the modem/radio because we have to reverse engineer those proprietary drivers from Samsung to work on AOSP. Blame Samsung for not releasing source code for the modem.
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That's what I meant. Sorry, wasn't clear in my post. I wasn't saying 4.4 ROMs use the OTA. I understand how they are built on AOSP. I was trying to say 4.3 ROMs have less problems (usually) because the devs have the OTAs to work with. For the most part anyway (I've read about the kernel problems on VZ 4.3). Thanks for clarifying.
I am using an AT&T s3 on cyanogenmod 11. I am trying to get back to the stock rom. The latest version that I could find is 4.1.1. Since my s3 is unlocked on T-mobile, I can't get OTA updates. I have also tried kies. Is there anyway for me to get back to stock 4.4.2 touchwiz? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I am new to rooting and flashing roms.
Can anyone help?
Quick question. I can get a good deal on a Galaxy Note Tab 10.1 that is running 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. It's a wi-fi version, no carrier. Will I be able to update to a newer OS such as Jelly Bean or KitKat? I should be able to just update over wifi, correct? Thanks - Dan
MustangDan74 said:
Quick question. I can get a good deal on a Galaxy Note Tab 10.1 that is running 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. It's a wi-fi version, no carrier. Will I be able to update to a newer OS such as Jelly Bean or KitKat? I should be able to just update over wifi, correct? Thanks - Dan
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IMHO, exept for the N8013 you get OTA/Kies updates up to 4.4.2. If you have a N8013 OTA 4.1.2, for 4.4.2 you can flash Gnabo V7 4.4.2 which by the way is much better than stock.
It is a GT-N8013 running ICS. It can be updated then to Kit Kat, without rooting? This would be for my wife as a gift, she doesn't like all that "tinkering" like I do on my phones, LOL.
MustangDan74 said:
It is a GT-N8013 running ICS. It can be updated then to Kit Kat, without rooting? This would be for my wife as a gift, she doesn't like all that "tinkering" like I do on my phones, LOL.
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The N8013 (i have the same) can be updated to 4.1.2 via OTA o Kies. There is no KitKat for this model, and i do not think there will be. Samsung forgot about it. If you want KitKat 4.4.2 than you have to flash a custom ROM which requires a Custom recovery and for that SuperSU and root. But it is worth it. The Gnabo 4.4.2 ROm is amazing, free from Bloatware and running like Speedy Gonzales Its easy to do.
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The N8013 (i have the same) can be updated to 4.1.2 via OTA o Kies. There is no KitKat for this model, and i do not think there will be. Samsung forgot about it. If you want KitKat 4.4.2 than you have to flash a custom ROM which requires a Custom recovery and for that SuperSU and root. But it is worth it. The Gnabo 4.4.2 ROm is amazing, free from Bloatware and running like Speedy Gonzales Its easy to do.
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This is not totally true.. You can flash FACTORY Stock rom for the n8010 to this device. Its totally stock Rom with the Boot- loader removed so it does not Alter the ability to go back. THE N810 IS The same device only its sold internationally. this is the base firmware of gnobo rom...
OP this is your best bed right here to keep as close to stock . She will be with this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770009
Everything works and if you run into trouble Carl is always there to help you with issues on getting it on your device...
Good Luck
erica_renee said:
You can flash FACTORY Stock rom for the n8010 to this device. Its totally stock Rom with the Boot- loader removed so it does not Alter the ability to go back. THE N810 IS The same device only its sold internationally. this is the base firmware of gnobo rom...
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Yes, forgot about that possibility.
I would like to hook her up with a smooth running, no bloat ROM. I realize it's been gone over in some of the other 1000+ page threads but what does the Gnabo ROM give me over the stock ICS?
hope this helps..
MustangDan74 said:
I would like to hook her up with a smooth running, no bloat ROM. I realize it's been gone over in some of the other 1000+ page threads but what does the Gnabo ROM give me over the stock ICS?
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Reasons to update
android 4.2
Samsung 2014 apps. including the new s-note Calender email and Others my mind slipped
Removed a Bunch of crap wear. and Useless apps.
Custom recovery where you can do full backups (can root without updating rom)
Moved Notifications to top Like on phone ( i really love this)
I think its a Bit faster then 4.1.2 stock rom.
You can rum 4.2 AND above only apps.
I am sure there are more
Reasons to not update
The new Multi window ui Kinda sucks. But it does work.
Prob more but for me its functioning file
You will no longer get Factory updates.. (ohh wait Samsung ditched us anyway)
Sounds like Gnobo rom would be best for you . But you read the forums and decide for yourself...
I would go for Gnabo Rom, and if you know what you do flash Boefflas Kernel. Top combination.
Would this ROM still be an improvement over 4.1 Jelly Bean? I was mistaken, it is a GT-N8013 running 4.1 JB.
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Would this ROM still be an improvement over 4.1 Jelly Bean? I was mistaken, it is a GT-N8013 running 4.1 JB.
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as i said two post up. I listed pros cons for me... I Like the 2014 note pro apps better then the old s- note and note2013 apps..
you can always root it . Install a custom recovery do a anand backup in custom recovery to external sd card.
install the rom and try it.. if you do not like Restore your backup.. You are way WAY Over thinking this simple solution.. Hope you do not mind me saying so..