Hey there,
I just got a Samsung Galaxy S Relay and I am trying to figure out if I should upgrade it to Jelly Bean and which version.
The phone is not rooted, I am a newbie and I do not have a custom rom in there.
Before I do this, can I go back to ics if I don't like jb for some reason?
thanks so much
JD421 said:
Hey there,
I just got a Samsung Galaxy S Relay and I am trying to figure out if I should upgrade it to Jelly Bean and which version.
The phone is not rooted, I am a newbie and I do not have a custom rom in there.
Before I do this, can I go back to ics if I don't like jb for some reason?
thanks so much
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you should unlock it while on stock ics (read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892 - method works only on ics) and then you may update to stock jb/root/custom rom.
there is cyanogenmod 10.2 custom rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405310 - or you can use stock, root it and debloat.
yes, it is possible to revert to stock ics.
LitD said:
you should unlock it while on stock ics (read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892 - method works only on ics) and then you may update to stock jb/root/custom rom.
there is cyanogenmod 10.2 custom rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405310 - or you can use stock, root it and debloat.
yes, it is possible to revert to stock ics.
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Thank you for that. I think I am too new to try a custom rom and root. I can suffer with the bloat because unlike the captivate, this phone, w a keyboard, has 4 gb for apps. on the captivate it had about 1.5 gb for apps after the os was installed. i really don't know what a custom rom is, really.
i watched a video comparing the jb to the ics and my 4.0.4 ics appeared to have almost all the improvements of the jb, so i don't know what the pros or cons would be upgrading to the jb, (I assume the latest jb version)
the last thing i want to do is slow my phone down, ruin battery life, or reduce my app space etc so i am just trying to get a feel for the pros of doing something like this.
ps i did hear it would make my phone faster....
JD421 said:
Thank you for that. I think I am too new to try a custom rom and root. I can suffer with the bloat because unlike the captivate, this phone, w a keyboard, has 4 gb for apps. on the captivate it had about 1.5 gb for apps after the os was installed. i really don't know what a custom rom is, really.
i watched a video comparing the jb to the ics and my 4.0.4 ics appeared to have almost all the improvements of the jb, so i don't know what the pros or cons would be upgrading to the jb, (I assume the latest jb version)
the last thing i want to do is slow my phone down, ruin battery life, or reduce my app space etc so i am just trying to get a feel for the pros of doing something like this.
ps i did hear it would make my phone faster....
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the latest stock is jb 4.1.2
i do not know if stock jb is faster than stock ics as i have no experience with stock ics. cyanogenmod is faster than stock, but i use debloated stock jb anyway.
bloatware running in the background can slow down the phone.
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Hi all be nice its my first time..
i would like to know how to tell if my phone is branded (tmobile) there is no web n walk icon etc. so might need gold card.
also if i was to root my dhd with the upcoming ota release of 2.3 is it worth doing for custom roms.
what is the difference between ota rom and custom. i ask this because if the custom roms are all good then should i ignore the stock rom updates. and just use rooted.
i do like the stock rom but ive done the update at xmas and need to roll back...
ive just rooted my first android tablet, which was a risk because i wasnt sure what machine it was.. but its all good.. so doing the root shouldnt be a problem.
My wife has decided that her new phone will be the S3 from Verizon. She's coming from a Droid X2, so this will be a huge upgrade for her.
I personally have a Galaxy Nexus running Bugless Beast. I have done some searching and so far only found SuperNexus. Are there any other "vanilla" Jelly Bean ROMs out there for the S3 like Bugless Beast?
I want to keep it simple and avoid too many modifications if possible. In the end I may just root it and leave it stock for her as I know there are a ton of features built into it that she may like.
Looking for opinions too. Stay stock and wait for Jelly Bean to be approved from Verizon or unlock and ROM right away?
Thanks in advance!
norsedakotan said:
My wife has decided that her new phone will be the S3 from Verizon. She's coming from a Droid X2, so this will be a huge upgrade for her.
I personally have a Galaxy Nexus running Bugless Beast. I have done some searching and so far only found SuperNexus. Are there any other "vanilla" Jelly Bean ROMs out there for the S3 like Bugless Beast?
I want to keep it simple and avoid too many modifications if possible. In the end I may just root it and leave it stock for her as I know there are a ton of features built into it that she may like.
Looking for opinions too. Stay stock and wait for Jelly Bean to be approved from Verizon or unlock and ROM right away?
Thanks in advance!
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At this point, you should stay stock and wait for Verizon Jelly Bean. For your wife it is better to keep everything stock. With Jelly Bean, the phone is going to be super fast and trouble free vs custom rom (specially when new update arrived, you have to do extra work to get the new update).
I would just wait. If shes coming from a DX2 it doesnt sound like she wants/needs all the mods. Stock is awesome if you want to make minor tweeks you can just root it. Jelly Bean will be over from Verizon early next year.
I put some custom ROMs on my fiances S3 and when I put a TW ROM on she asked what I did as she couldnt tell a difference. Tried a AOSP and she hated it so I ended up putting it back to stock and rooting it for apps like TiBu
Sccrluk9 said:
I would just wait. If shes coming from a DX2 it doesnt sound like she wants/needs all the mods. Stock is awesome if you want to make minor tweeks you can just root it. Jelly Bean will be over from Verizon early next year.
I put some custom ROMs on my fiances S3 and when I put a TW ROM on she asked what I did as she couldnt tell a difference. Tried a AOSP and she hated it so I ended up putting it back to stock and rooting it for apps like TiBu
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Thanks for your suggestion. I may just leave her stock and root it to ensure we can back up data. She's lost data before on her X2 sadly when the flash card died and another time when her original Droid X died and had to be warrantied.
Thanks again.
I would put cleanrom on it for her. It has the stock feel but with a smoother experience.
Hi all,
I am receiving a factory refurbished Wifi-only Xoom next week. I am guessing that it will be on 3.0, and I'd like to bring it up to the latest JB and install a custom rom (probably EOS 3 for the moment, then EOS 4 at the next MR).
What's the best procedure for this? Should I take OTA updates up to 4.1.2, then unlock, root and install a ROM? Or should I just unlock, root and flash a ROM from the start, i.e. skipping the OTA updates? Or does it not really matter?
Thanks in advance.
Venable said:
Hi all,
I am receiving a factory refurbished Wifi-only Xoom next week. I am guessing that it will be on 3.0, and I'd like to bring it up to the latest JB and install a custom rom (probably EOS 3 for the moment, then EOS 4 at the next MR).
What's the best procedure for this? Should I take OTA updates up to 4.1.2, then unlock, root and install a ROM? Or should I just unlock, root and flash a ROM from the start, i.e. skipping the OTA updates? Or does it not really matter?
Thanks in advance.
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Not really answering your question, just an opinion .....
Why not just leave it on OTA 4.1.2? Unless you have a real need to unlock or some pressing need for 4.2. In my experience the difference between 4.1.2 and 4.2 is insignificant. EOS 3 is conceivably a back step on the OTA updates. Continually updating for updating's sake is fine if that is your hobby (and that is why you are here in these forums), but it might not achieve much. And you could replace a smooth stable 4.1.2 with a buggy and laggy 4.2 - for what?
If there is some app or function you need that requires root or a custom rom then that is a different story.
I am awaiting a refub MZ604 myself so I share you impulse, but I am taking a wait and see approach and giving it some thought.
Grege50 said:
Not really answering your question, just an opinion .....
Why not just leave it on OTA 4.1.2? Unless you have a real need to unlock or some pressing need for 4.2. In my experience the difference between 4.1.2 and 4.2 is insignificant. EOS 3 is conceivably a back step on the OTA updates. Continually updating for updating's sake is fine if that is your hobby (and that is why you are here in these forums), but it might not achieve much. And you could replace a smooth stable 4.1.2 with a buggy and laggy 4.2 - for what?
If there is some app or function you need that requires root or a custom rom then that is a different story.
I am awaiting a refub MZ604 myself so I share you impulse, but I am taking a wait and see approach and giving it some thought.
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Hey, thanks a lot for your advice. I wasn't so much counting on jumping ahead to 4.2 just yet, so I'm with you there.
Regarding a 4.1.1 ROM vs the 4.1.2 OTA, I had thought (just based on my personal experience with other Android devices, my Razr in particular) that a nice 4.1.1 ROM like EOS 3 would outperform stock, even a version that is one minor update ahead, since the ROM would (presumably) be optimized, free of bloatware, etc. Perhaps that's not a big issue with the Xoom?
Again, thanks. I'll probably take your advice and see how things go with 4.1.2 OTA for a while.
Interestingly, the refurbished Xoom came with 4.1.2 pre-loaded. I wasn't expecting that. Seems to be running fine.
Mine arrived today. It only took 11 days to cross the world. An MZ604 GED device. Came with 4.04 then promptly updated itself to 4.1.1 then a few minutes later it upgraded itself to 4.1.2. It is pure Android and runs fast and smoothly.
More than happy with this refurb - it looks brand new and 4.1.2 is new enough.
So I was getting sick of running CM 10.2 on my Galaxy SIII so I decided to go back to Verizon stock 4.1.2 rom and then before reading up on the 4.3 OTA update, I stupidly just went through the update. I didn't know how much of a hassle this was going to be, but basically I was wondering if anyone has any information on how to get off of this standard rom and back into the world of custom roms. Because I really really dislike touchwiz and really just about everything to do with this OTA update that I've had to deal with for the past pretty much month now. Any information will be helpful on steps I can take to get off of this ROM or if any work is being done to make this phone rock as much as it did when I first bought it.
havidad said:
So I was getting sick of running CM 10.2 on my Galaxy SIII so I decided to go back to Verizon stock 4.1.2 rom and then before reading up on the 4.3 OTA update, I stupidly just went through the update. I didn't know how much of a hassle this was going to be, but basically I was wondering if anyone has any information on how to get off of this standard rom and back into the world of custom roms. Because I really really dislike touchwiz and really just about everything to do with this OTA update that I've had to deal with for the past pretty much month now. Any information will be helpful on steps I can take to get off of this ROM or if any work is being done to make this phone rock as much as it did when I first bought it.
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Saferoot and Safestrap only available option right now.
I may add that saferoot is to root your phone and safestrap is used to install TouchWiz custom rom only.
how to get a clean 4.4
I've done the same thing as well with a similar issue, is the consensus that there is no way to move from a stock 4.3 updated phone to a clean non-touchwiz 4.4 such as CM11 or similar? My phone is quite slow and laggy after this update especially the keyboard, so I'm looking to pare things down to speed it up.
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I've done the same thing as well with a similar issue, is the consensus that there is no way to move from a stock 4.3 updated phone to a clean non-touchwiz 4.4 such as CM11 or similar? My phone is quite slow and laggy after this update especially the keyboard, so I'm looking to pare things down to speed it up.
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That's correct!
Quick question. I can get a good deal on a Galaxy Note Tab 10.1 that is running 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. It's a wi-fi version, no carrier. Will I be able to update to a newer OS such as Jelly Bean or KitKat? I should be able to just update over wifi, correct? Thanks - Dan
MustangDan74 said:
Quick question. I can get a good deal on a Galaxy Note Tab 10.1 that is running 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. It's a wi-fi version, no carrier. Will I be able to update to a newer OS such as Jelly Bean or KitKat? I should be able to just update over wifi, correct? Thanks - Dan
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IMHO, exept for the N8013 you get OTA/Kies updates up to 4.4.2. If you have a N8013 OTA 4.1.2, for 4.4.2 you can flash Gnabo V7 4.4.2 which by the way is much better than stock.
It is a GT-N8013 running ICS. It can be updated then to Kit Kat, without rooting? This would be for my wife as a gift, she doesn't like all that "tinkering" like I do on my phones, LOL.
MustangDan74 said:
It is a GT-N8013 running ICS. It can be updated then to Kit Kat, without rooting? This would be for my wife as a gift, she doesn't like all that "tinkering" like I do on my phones, LOL.
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The N8013 (i have the same) can be updated to 4.1.2 via OTA o Kies. There is no KitKat for this model, and i do not think there will be. Samsung forgot about it. If you want KitKat 4.4.2 than you have to flash a custom ROM which requires a Custom recovery and for that SuperSU and root. But it is worth it. The Gnabo 4.4.2 ROm is amazing, free from Bloatware and running like Speedy Gonzales Its easy to do.
Thomas_BA said:
The N8013 (i have the same) can be updated to 4.1.2 via OTA o Kies. There is no KitKat for this model, and i do not think there will be. Samsung forgot about it. If you want KitKat 4.4.2 than you have to flash a custom ROM which requires a Custom recovery and for that SuperSU and root. But it is worth it. The Gnabo 4.4.2 ROm is amazing, free from Bloatware and running like Speedy Gonzales Its easy to do.
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This is not totally true.. You can flash FACTORY Stock rom for the n8010 to this device. Its totally stock Rom with the Boot- loader removed so it does not Alter the ability to go back. THE N810 IS The same device only its sold internationally. this is the base firmware of gnobo rom...
OP this is your best bed right here to keep as close to stock . She will be with this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770009
Everything works and if you run into trouble Carl is always there to help you with issues on getting it on your device...
Good Luck
erica_renee said:
You can flash FACTORY Stock rom for the n8010 to this device. Its totally stock Rom with the Boot- loader removed so it does not Alter the ability to go back. THE N810 IS The same device only its sold internationally. this is the base firmware of gnobo rom...
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Yes, forgot about that possibility.
I would like to hook her up with a smooth running, no bloat ROM. I realize it's been gone over in some of the other 1000+ page threads but what does the Gnabo ROM give me over the stock ICS?
hope this helps..
MustangDan74 said:
I would like to hook her up with a smooth running, no bloat ROM. I realize it's been gone over in some of the other 1000+ page threads but what does the Gnabo ROM give me over the stock ICS?
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Reasons to update
android 4.2
Samsung 2014 apps. including the new s-note Calender email and Others my mind slipped
Removed a Bunch of crap wear. and Useless apps.
Custom recovery where you can do full backups (can root without updating rom)
Moved Notifications to top Like on phone ( i really love this)
I think its a Bit faster then 4.1.2 stock rom.
You can rum 4.2 AND above only apps.
I am sure there are more
Reasons to not update
The new Multi window ui Kinda sucks. But it does work.
Prob more but for me its functioning file
You will no longer get Factory updates.. (ohh wait Samsung ditched us anyway)
Sounds like Gnobo rom would be best for you . But you read the forums and decide for yourself...
I would go for Gnabo Rom, and if you know what you do flash Boefflas Kernel. Top combination.
Would this ROM still be an improvement over 4.1 Jelly Bean? I was mistaken, it is a GT-N8013 running 4.1 JB.
MustangDan74 said:
Would this ROM still be an improvement over 4.1 Jelly Bean? I was mistaken, it is a GT-N8013 running 4.1 JB.
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as i said two post up. I listed pros cons for me... I Like the 2014 note pro apps better then the old s- note and note2013 apps..
you can always root it . Install a custom recovery do a anand backup in custom recovery to external sd card.
install the rom and try it.. if you do not like Restore your backup.. You are way WAY Over thinking this simple solution.. Hope you do not mind me saying so..