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[Q] Soon To Receive, What To Do First?

Soon I will be receiving my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8013 (White) hopefully Thursday 1/24/13
I'm familiar with the Samsung Galaxy line as I've own the S II and currently own the S III
Reading through these forums before I decided to purchase the Note 10.1, over the Nexus 10, I was excited to see so much development for this tablet. I'm guessing when I receive this tablet it will have ICS 4.0 installed, here is my question
What is the first thing I should to do the tablet when I receive it should I do an OTA to get it to JellyBean or would it be better for me to just root it and the flash a provided ROM in the forum to upgrade it to 4.1.2 via TWRP?
IMy guess is that I should not do any OTA and just root, install recovery and then flash a 4.1.2 ROM, for now I'll be sticking a stock ROM since I kinda like TouchWiz
Thank you in advance for all suggestions!

elephant007 said:
Soon I will be receiving my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8013 (White) hopefully Thursday 1/24/13
I'm familiar with the Samsung Galaxy line as I've own the S II and currently own the S III
Reading through these forums before I decided to purchase the Note 10.1, over the Nexus 10, I was excited to see so much development for this tablet. I'm guessing when I receive this tablet it will have ICS 4.0 installed, here is my question
What is the first thing I should to do the tablet when I receive it should I do an OTA to get it to JellyBean or would it be better for me to just root it and the flash a provided ROM in the forum to upgrade it to 4.1.2 via TWRP?
IMy guess is that I should not do any OTA and just root, install recovery and then flash a 4.1.2 ROM, for now I'll be sticking a stock ROM since I kinda like TouchWiz
Thank you in advance for all suggestions!
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yes skip the ota part and root your phone once you get it.. then flash 4.1.2.. you can choose from the 3 custom recovery that we have here., twrp.,
zedomax cwm., and darkman_RS cwm..

I would say use your tablet stock for a few dayz just so u know could experience pure stock.. Its nice to see wat a device can do untouched. Than I would say update in a few dayz because if you like me I just love knowing I can do things to my device because once u fix up tge tablet u gonna become bored and wanna try more roms.. thats why I say play with stock for awhile. Once you go custom its boring using pure stock..
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Thank you both for your suggestions
I can do the pure stock thing for a few days, with root of course!
Actually my main thinking was to run it with stock 4.1.2

Yep. I flashed a lot of different custom roms on my old tablet (asus transformer), but I've never really found the need to do it for this one. I'd advise you to root with the exynos exploit apk (because it's easy, but it might not be as safe), then use mobile odin to flash to 4.1.2 while keeping root. Then, with root, you can add multiwindow to all your apps with another apk available in the Themes and Apps section here!

If your stay stock on 4.1.1 why not just ota as its easier then root with exploit app? This is what I did, love touchwiz all I've done is made more apps available in multiwindow and rooted
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I got my tablet today, WOW!!! Two days earlier than I expected
The following is what I did
1. Installed CMW via Odin
2. Installed SuperSU via CMW
3. Installed Goo IM and installed TWRP
4. Installed Stock 4.1.2 via TWRP after doing a backup of course!!!
Man so far Peel is awesome
How can I move the soft keys from the left side to the right?

[Q] Picking up a refurb Xoom (Wifi) - how best to update, unlock, install ROM?

Hi all,
I am receiving a factory refurbished Wifi-only Xoom next week. I am guessing that it will be on 3.0, and I'd like to bring it up to the latest JB and install a custom rom (probably EOS 3 for the moment, then EOS 4 at the next MR).
What's the best procedure for this? Should I take OTA updates up to 4.1.2, then unlock, root and install a ROM? Or should I just unlock, root and flash a ROM from the start, i.e. skipping the OTA updates? Or does it not really matter?
Thanks in advance.

Venable said:
Hi all,
I am receiving a factory refurbished Wifi-only Xoom next week. I am guessing that it will be on 3.0, and I'd like to bring it up to the latest JB and install a custom rom (probably EOS 3 for the moment, then EOS 4 at the next MR).
What's the best procedure for this? Should I take OTA updates up to 4.1.2, then unlock, root and install a ROM? Or should I just unlock, root and flash a ROM from the start, i.e. skipping the OTA updates? Or does it not really matter?
Thanks in advance.
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Not really answering your question, just an opinion .....
Why not just leave it on OTA 4.1.2? Unless you have a real need to unlock or some pressing need for 4.2. In my experience the difference between 4.1.2 and 4.2 is insignificant. EOS 3 is conceivably a back step on the OTA updates. Continually updating for updating's sake is fine if that is your hobby (and that is why you are here in these forums), but it might not achieve much. And you could replace a smooth stable 4.1.2 with a buggy and laggy 4.2 - for what?
If there is some app or function you need that requires root or a custom rom then that is a different story.
I am awaiting a refub MZ604 myself so I share you impulse, but I am taking a wait and see approach and giving it some thought.

Grege50 said:
Not really answering your question, just an opinion .....
Why not just leave it on OTA 4.1.2? Unless you have a real need to unlock or some pressing need for 4.2. In my experience the difference between 4.1.2 and 4.2 is insignificant. EOS 3 is conceivably a back step on the OTA updates. Continually updating for updating's sake is fine if that is your hobby (and that is why you are here in these forums), but it might not achieve much. And you could replace a smooth stable 4.1.2 with a buggy and laggy 4.2 - for what?
If there is some app or function you need that requires root or a custom rom then that is a different story.
I am awaiting a refub MZ604 myself so I share you impulse, but I am taking a wait and see approach and giving it some thought.
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Hey, thanks a lot for your advice. I wasn't so much counting on jumping ahead to 4.2 just yet, so I'm with you there.
Regarding a 4.1.1 ROM vs the 4.1.2 OTA, I had thought (just based on my personal experience with other Android devices, my Razr in particular) that a nice 4.1.1 ROM like EOS 3 would outperform stock, even a version that is one minor update ahead, since the ROM would (presumably) be optimized, free of bloatware, etc. Perhaps that's not a big issue with the Xoom?
Again, thanks. I'll probably take your advice and see how things go with 4.1.2 OTA for a while.

Interestingly, the refurbished Xoom came with 4.1.2 pre-loaded. I wasn't expecting that. Seems to be running fine.

Mine arrived today. It only took 11 days to cross the world. An MZ604 GED device. Came with 4.04 then promptly updated itself to 4.1.1 then a few minutes later it upgraded itself to 4.1.2. It is pure Android and runs fast and smoothly.
More than happy with this refurb - it looks brand new and 4.1.2 is new enough.

[Q] ICS 4.0.4 to JB 4.? Samsung S Relay

Hey there,
I just got a Samsung Galaxy S Relay and I am trying to figure out if I should upgrade it to Jelly Bean and which version.
The phone is not rooted, I am a newbie and I do not have a custom rom in there.
Before I do this, can I go back to ics if I don't like jb for some reason?
thanks so much

JD421 said:
Hey there,
I just got a Samsung Galaxy S Relay and I am trying to figure out if I should upgrade it to Jelly Bean and which version.
The phone is not rooted, I am a newbie and I do not have a custom rom in there.
Before I do this, can I go back to ics if I don't like jb for some reason?
thanks so much
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you should unlock it while on stock ics (read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892 - method works only on ics) and then you may update to stock jb/root/custom rom.
there is cyanogenmod 10.2 custom rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405310 - or you can use stock, root it and debloat.
yes, it is possible to revert to stock ics.

LitD said:
you should unlock it while on stock ics (read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892 - method works only on ics) and then you may update to stock jb/root/custom rom.
there is cyanogenmod 10.2 custom rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405310 - or you can use stock, root it and debloat.
yes, it is possible to revert to stock ics.
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Thank you for that. I think I am too new to try a custom rom and root. I can suffer with the bloat because unlike the captivate, this phone, w a keyboard, has 4 gb for apps. on the captivate it had about 1.5 gb for apps after the os was installed. i really don't know what a custom rom is, really.
i watched a video comparing the jb to the ics and my 4.0.4 ics appeared to have almost all the improvements of the jb, so i don't know what the pros or cons would be upgrading to the jb, (I assume the latest jb version)
the last thing i want to do is slow my phone down, ruin battery life, or reduce my app space etc so i am just trying to get a feel for the pros of doing something like this.
ps i did hear it would make my phone faster....

JD421 said:
Thank you for that. I think I am too new to try a custom rom and root. I can suffer with the bloat because unlike the captivate, this phone, w a keyboard, has 4 gb for apps. on the captivate it had about 1.5 gb for apps after the os was installed. i really don't know what a custom rom is, really.
i watched a video comparing the jb to the ics and my 4.0.4 ics appeared to have almost all the improvements of the jb, so i don't know what the pros or cons would be upgrading to the jb, (I assume the latest jb version)
the last thing i want to do is slow my phone down, ruin battery life, or reduce my app space etc so i am just trying to get a feel for the pros of doing something like this.
ps i did hear it would make my phone faster....
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the latest stock is jb 4.1.2
i do not know if stock jb is faster than stock ics as i have no experience with stock ics. cyanogenmod is faster than stock, but i use debloated stock jb anyway.
bloatware running in the background can slow down the phone.

[Q] I have not yet accepted the OTA on my rooted 4.1.2. What should I do next?

I have a rooted SCH-I535 running stock 4.1.2. I am still getting OTA update notices every five minutes and it is time to move on to 4.3. What has has been your experience out there? My goals are:
1) to keep root, and
2) run 4.3 stock and have the option to play around with 4.4 ROMs.
Should I OTA to 4.3 then root? From what I have read, it may not be possible to flash custom ROM's this way. Can I get 4.3 ROMs and 4.4 ROMs another way? What is the best method from a rooted 4.1.2?
Thanks from an noob.
Ryan

uiryan said:
I have a rooted SCH-I535 running stock 4.1.2. I am still getting OTA update notices every five minutes and it is time to move on to 4.3. What has has been your experience out there? My goals are:
1) to keep root, and
2) run 4.3 stock and have the option to play around with 4.4 ROMs.
Should I OTA to 4.3 then root? From what I have read, it may not be possible to flash custom ROM's this way. Can I get 4.3 ROMs and 4.4 ROMs another way? What is the best method from a rooted 4.1.2?
Thanks from an noob.
Ryan
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If you take the OTA 4.3 update your boot loader will be locked and you will not be able to do anything that you said. If you have Titanium Pro use it to freeze "SDM 1.0" that will stop the update nags. If you want to go to 4. 3 you will find a rooted, stock 4.3 rom with an unlocked boot loader developed and posted by "Old&Slow" at this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895

joekiv said:
If you take the OTA 4.3 update your boot loader will be locked and you will not be able to do anything that you said. If you have Titanium Pro use it to freeze "SDM 1.0" that will stop the update nags. If you want to go to 4. 3 you will find a rooted, stock 4.3 rom with an unlocked boot loader developed and posted by "Old&Slow" at this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895
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Huge thanks for the SDM freeze tip. That was my primary nuisance. It worked perfectly.I followed the link you provided. The ROM seems to be a bit buggy. Are a lot of you staying with 4.1.2? I like the idea of cloud printing and a few other updates, but I don't know if I want to risk my flash going off every time my phone rings. Can anyone recommend a good 4.4 ROM that can be flashed from my current state?

In general, the 4.4 ROM's are going to be a little more "buggy" when compared to a custom TW 4.3 ROM. From my understanding of this it's due to the devs being able to use the official OTA as a base and just customize it. I've ran both and prefer the custom TW 4.3 ROMs. To each their own however.
If you want to stay as close as OTA as possible, scrosler has posted a 4.3 ROM on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III Android Development thread. It's titled, "[ROM][1/27/14] - Stock Rooted Knoxless - VRUCML1 - Android 4.3 - Stay Classy XDA!". I'd link you but don't have that ability yet on the forum.

RipCity12 said:
In general, the 4.4 ROM's are going to be a little more "buggy" when compared to a custom TW 4.3 ROM. From my understanding of this it's due to the devs being able to use the official OTA as a base and just customize it. I've ran both and prefer the custom TW 4.3 ROMs. To each their own however.
If you want to stay as close as OTA as possible, scrosler has posted a 4.3 ROM on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III Android Development thread. It's titled, "[ROM][1/27/14] - Stock Rooted Knoxless - VRUCML1 - Android 4.3 - Stay Classy XDA!". I'd link you but don't have that ability yet on the forum.
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Hey just you know 4.4 ROMS do not use the OTA as a base. The OTA is 4.3 first of all. 2nd its Touchwiz. 4.4 ROMs are AOSP only. Not Touchwiz. Now 4.4 ROMs just like any AOSP ROM use the Stock AOSP source code from Google as a Base (stock AOSP like on a Nexus) and then merge in device specific proprietary drivers after. They are buggy at first especially the modem/radio because we have to reverse engineer those proprietary drivers from Samsung to work on AOSP. Blame Samsung for not releasing source code for the modem.
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Sandman-007 said:
Hey just you know 4.4 ROMS do not use the OTA as a base. The OTA is 4.3 first of all. 2nd its Touchwiz. 4.4 ROMs are AOSP only. Not Touchwiz. Now 4.4 ROMs just like any AOSP ROM use the Stock AOSP source code from Google as a Base (stock AOSP like on a Nexus) and then merge in device specific proprietary drivers after. They are buggy at first especially the modem/radio because we have to reverse engineer those proprietary drivers from Samsung to work on AOSP. Blame Samsung for not releasing source code for the modem.
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That's what I meant. Sorry, wasn't clear in my post. I wasn't saying 4.4 ROMs use the OTA. I understand how they are built on AOSP. I was trying to say 4.3 ROMs have less problems (usually) because the devs have the OTAs to work with. For the most part anyway (I've read about the kernel problems on VZ 4.3). Thanks for clarifying.

Is there a specific 4.3 rom for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 SM-T210(R)?

From what I understand 4.3 has color emojis for Samsung devices and that's mainly what I want from it or Kitkat

DHeavy2011 said:
From what I understand 4.3 has color emojis for Samsung devices and that's mainly what I want from it or Kitkat
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No, there is not an official 4.3 ROM. There is some 4.4.2 ROMs but they are still in development.

DevMyAndroid said:
No, there is not an official 4.3 ROM. There is some 4.4.2 ROMs but they are still in development.
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Thanks. I didn't think so but on the roms page it has all the Jelly Bean roms together so I didn't know if one happened to be 4.3. I am aware of the Kitkat roms still being under development and I hope one finally becomes completely stable or at least useable. Best case scenario is an official Kitkat update from Samsung but I have little doubt of that. It'd be nice even if they skipped Kitkat but gave us Android L but that's even less likely. I've tried the Kitkat roms here and they just didn't cut it for me. I am happy with a 4.2.2 rom that I found when I tried to find a stock rom. It said stock rom on it for the SM-T210 but it wasn't stock at least for the SM-T210, as it was running 4.2.2 compared to the real stock 4.1.2. The wifi didn't work but I found an easy fix

DHeavy2011 said:
Thanks. I didn't think so but on the roms page it has all the Jelly Bean roms together so I didn't know if one happened to be 4.3. I am aware of the Kitkat roms still being under development and I hope one finally becomes completely stable or at least useable. Best case scenario is an official Kitkat update from Samsung but I have little doubt of that. It'd be nice even if they skipped Kitkat but gave us Android L but that's even less likely. I've tried the Kitkat roms here and they just didn't cut it for me. I am happy with a 4.2.2 rom that I found when I tried to find a stock rom. It said stock rom on it for the SM-T210 but it wasn't stock at least for the SM-T210, as it was running 4.2.2 compared to the real stock 4.1.2. The wifi didn't work but I found an easy fix
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I tried that rom. It is a port of the stock firmware on another device. I wish the development had not been discontinued.

DevMyAndroid said:
I tried that rom. It is a port of the stock firmware on another device. I wish the development had not been discontinued.
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theres a stable kitkat rom, ive been using it for a few days

multigamer120 said:
theres a stable kitkat rom, ive been using it for a few days
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You mean the port KitKat? it's not stable yet.

What's not stable? I've been using it with no issues.
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Pls Help Me
Had restored my tablet. And then start something the TWRP custom recovery and accidentally turn off the tab. Then I wanted to turn back and not even doing a hard reset lights or anything. Nor on when I connect the charger. My tab is dead. I need help
Samsung GALAXY TAB 3 10.1

DevMyAndroid said:
No, there is not an official 4.3 ROM. There is some 4.4.2 ROMs but they are still in development.
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Found a 4.4 rom!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/development-7/rom-port-nolekat-v1-0-t210r-t2837338

all ports will have bugs at the start but they will be sorted in due time

JoseLeonhart said:
Had restored my tablet. And then start something the TWRP custom recovery and accidentally turn off the tab. Then I wanted to turn back and not even doing a hard reset lights or anything. Nor on when I connect the charger. My tab is dead. I need help
Samsung GALAXY TAB 3 10.1
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I am assuming you flashed stock on odin. When you flash back to stock, your tab will always use the recovery installed to flash what i think is the kernel. All you need to do is, make sure your tablet is off. (It may be trying to boot without any lights.) Once it is off, hold down power, volume down, and home. Wait 4 seconds and relese the power buton but keep holding volume down and home for 2 seconds. Then let go of all the buttons, press volume up and connect your tablet to your computer. You should now be able to use odin to flash stock firmware.