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Carat The Brilliant App That Increases Your Battery Life...

Just saw it on techcrunch and installed it some 30 min ago. It might be of use for our hungry beast.
...The guys that built Carat? They’re not joking around. They’re a team of top-notch M.S. and Ph.D scientists from the UC Berkeley electrical engineering and computer science department’s Algorithms, Machines, and People Laboratory (AMP Lab). Carat wasn’t built to make money. It’s the consumer product of cutting-edge battery science and a way for the team to collect more anonymous, privacy-respectful data for research that could make all our devices last longer.....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.berkeley.cs.amplab.carat.android

Just use BetterBatteryStats.

Like the guy with the One X said in the comments (on the Play Store), how can it work properly if it keeps your device in a constant wake lock? Surely that will eat up your battery and render the "test" useless and then that kills the entire point of the app?
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Apart from the rating on playstore has anyone tested the app actually bfore writing it off....

hmmm... BetterBatteryStats is still better I think...

luckymustafa said:
hmmm... BetterBatteryStats is still better I think...
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I don't think you can compare apps that are so different, and conclude that one is better...
Betterbatterystats is a good app to debug your phone, Carat is a project to collect info about the consumption of the apps people use, and provide some statistics about how your phone behaviour compares to others and how it can be improved.

not worth it. im far more happy with my System Panel

Snapdragon™ BatteryGuru

Anyone Tried this yet?
Snapdragon™ BatteryGuru
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
App is from Qualcomm.
I've never used apps the limit functionality to save battery before, but if anyone would know how to do this right, it should be Qualcomm.
Snapdragon™ BatteryGuru extends battery performance and improves overall user experience by intelligently making changes that optimize Snapdragon device functionality. This app:
• Delivers longer battery life with fewer charges
• Intelligently learns how you use your Snapdragon smartphone and optimizes your device without disabling smartphone functionality
• Requires no user configuration - Snapdragon BatteryGuru automatically learns and adjusts the smartphone settings so you don’t have to.
After a brief 2-4 day introduction period, Snapdragon BatteryGuru learns the user’s behaviors and then notifies the user that it is ready to extend the battery life and improve the experience. Snapdragon BatteryGuru continues to operate in the background, deepening its understanding of the user and further optimizing the experience over time.

Thanks man!
Will give it a go.

I'm not really sure on what the value of these apps are.
Letting my phone do whatever it wants when I'm on wifi and my phone is sitting idle, my phone uses around 1%/hour of battery life.
Some portion of that is all this app could really save then, right?
Why bother if, in exchange, I'm possibly having delayed notifications, apps not updating in the background, etc.?

Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.
I'll be shocked if this makes any discernable difference.
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I installed this and 3 days later it was still in learning mode. I got tired of waiting for it to do something else, so I deleted it and installed Greenify.

I'll give it a whirl.

I may try this out, but I already have the no–brainer solution to battery life woes...a big fat extended battery. If only lots of others would do the same lol.

I use the cPU sleeper, i;; give this a try, i get great batt life on stock, stock kernel..

Some of the reviews said it actually drained the battery. Might be wort trying but I have my doubts.
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I've had it on my sick Verizon s3 for about 3 days, so far not impressed. It took 2 days in learning mode, then once that period ended it seems to actually be a significant battery drainer! I will try for another couple of days and report back, but I'm not optimistic so far.
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It seems to keep me from adjusting my CPU with rom toolbox pro or system tuner pro. Can someone else that is running a custom kernal (IMO 2.0) and let me know if they can adjust theirs.
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This is an app written and distributed by a component manufacturer. They will cut speed/processing power as much as they can to make the device use less battery. This inherently means the app will take control of the CPU/governor adjustments. A kernel such as KT with an app that LOCKS frequencies may prevent this, but also will render the app useless.
They aren't concerned with the same things as we in the rooting world are. We want to push as much processing power as possible while using the least amount of electrical power needed, not slow the device down while hoping ppl don't notice. Lol..

I too experienced battery drain from this app.
+1 on CPU Sleeper
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tryed for about 1weeks.
After the learning mode...it started to appear as one of the most stealer of battery life...with 12/13% of daily battery usage. Disinstalled lol ...and my phone seems to be turned at a good battery life

Has Samsung debloating been quantified?

Has Samsung debloating been quantified or are we operating on an 'action bias'? 'I took action so it MUST be effective. I even perceive more battery life !' This happens when we buy cars, golf clubs, computers and maybe when we debloat?
Has anyone compared two identical phones with identical software and shown before and after performance numbers over a significant time-frame? If not, we may be operating on assumption and action bias. This would be an outstanding XDA study and article.
FWIW I use a non-rooted S6, Nougat, and disabled stock apps and processes I don't need via BK Disabler 3 days ago. Can't perceive any improvement in battery. Had no performance issues before debloating and perceive no improvement post-debloat.

There are many guides on XDA that advertise the wonders of debloating your device, it's not rocket science really, less apps running in the background and less apps waking up the device from sleep equals more battery life out of your device.
Since you've disabled your apps, you can take it to the next step by reading this Well-known guide on getting the most out of your battery.
Good luck

Lag

I know i made some negative posts on the htc u11 but tbh i love this phone and i was just feeling annoyed by some things.. But i wanted to ask, i expected this phone to be lag free and super fast, yes it is super fast abd smooth but the thing is that it does lag with me and it is noticable. Happens a couple of times a day i think, am i the only one having lag problems? I do have the power saving option on and idk if it's what's causing the phone to lag or not but all i know is it does lag with me and it is unexpected since this phone has htc sense and snapdragon 835. Share your thoughts below

Not just lag but freeze

I'll share my thoughts : you should really stop openning these threads because actually no one believes you, we're all aware that you're here to throw up on this phone.
For who ? We don't know.
Maybe a simple Samsung fanboy who's upset because HTC made a better phone than Samsung's flagships two years in a row ?
Now stop please, it's not funny and it will not prevent people to buy the U11 if they want to.

I don't see Samsung logo on front... Soo no lag here.

Dejan Kruljac said:
I don't see Samsung logo on front... Soo no lag here.
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Turn off the power saver. It's not needed with the Snapdragon 835 and it alters the distribution of the load between the clusters. Things that would complete swiftly and thus conserve power on the big cores gets offloaded to the little cores. The kernel isn't optimized to take advantage of the efficiency of the 835. With it being incredibly easy to get 7 hours of SoT, there is no need for the power saver. Somewhere on XDA there's a very detailed explanation as to what the power saver does and why it shouldn't be used unless your phone is about to die but it curbs both clock speeds and shuffles around the load, preferring to not use the big cores at all. It basically abolishes the efficiency of the big.LITTLE premise and often has opposite the intended effect if you're actively using the phone.
If you need optimization, you can use Boost+ to set individual high drain apps up to be run in 1080p, limit background usage, etc. This is much more effective than essentially killing the performance of the phone and gaining little, if any, additional battery life. It can have the opposite effect and in fact did so on the 10.
Think of it like this - the little cluster may take half the power per cycle than the big cluster (I don't know the exact numbers and highly doubt it's anywhere near half but it works for the example). You open an app that would have completed in a single cycle on the big cluster. That same app can take four to five cycles on the little cluster. You've just thrown efficiency out the window.
If you have a lot of background apps misbehaving and a lot of apps constantly syncing, it can be advantageous but I haven't seen any evidence of that since the Snapdragon 820. The 805 in my Nexus 6 benefited from it but my Note 5 with the Exynos 7420 and my 10 with the Snapdragon 820 suffered.

Lag?? OP must be in the wrong forum. Please go back to your Lagsung S8..

I had freezes on my previous HTC(one m7), and the reason was some crappy game I installed. After removal - no lag at all. Just try and revise your applications and remove ones you have doubts

0 lag. None, Nada, zilch. Either the person who started this post has an app or setting that is causing it or they are intentionally trying to keep people from buying it...Which seems crazy...who would care that much...?

General Game Optimizing Service / "App-Performance-Limitter" on S22 Ultra?

According to some news, the so called "Game Optimizing Service" is availeable on S22 Ultra devices - which potenially controlls about 10.000 Apps of the App-Store.
Can someone confirm if it is installed / active on S22 Ultra on SD & Exynos ?
[Update: Samsung reponds] Galaxy phones appear to be throttling 10,000 Android apps, like OnePlus did
According to recent findings, Samsung is throttling thousands of common Android apps on its Galaxy devices, and without a clear reason.
9to5google.com
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499009797035008002

Package Disabler Pro

krogoth said:
Package Disabler Pro
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Pay for the money greedy developer.

Here's a link to my thread, i debloat Samsung firmware including GOS (Game Optimizing Service) for the best performance and battery.
[DISCONTINUED] Samsung Galaxy One UI - Optimization Guide
THIS IS A SUGGESTED CONFIGURATION FOR SAMSUNG DEVICES OUT OF SUPPORT/CLOSED I - RECOMMENDED SETTINGS To Start With - Factory Reset before starting optimisations - Factory Reset after every Major update (One UI/Android) - Remove SIM before first...
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I remember that Samsung used something like this in my Note 5 and S7 Edge from Android 6 to limit game performance on purpose.
I advise you all to disable this "optimization".

Reports say that the GOS cannot be disabled the old way b'cos it's now system app since One UI 4.0?

Will it help to uninstall insted of disabling?

You can't disable it in OneUI 4.x
It's part of the Kernel now.

Maybe instead of panicking and basing decisions on headlines and mob mentality you think about the reasons why this might have been done to start with?
Most of if not all of these apps will be very poorly optimised in general but especially for the hardware in the S22 series of devices - this means that left unchecked they will use more resources than they really need to, warming up the devices causing thermal throttling to kick in and draining the battery fast (as well as possibly reducing the lifespan of certain components).
This APK keeps these things in check, but for games where you really need more performance you can use gamebooster to switch to performance mode and recovery virtually all the lost power (if not all of it) - making it your choice to sacrifice heat and battery life for performance when you need it, not all the time.

Yeah, I uninstalled it via ADB but it returns after reboot.

Yeah only thing working from the sounds of it is being rooted and using a package disabler but yeah then you lose widevine currently.

I've disabled all it's permissions including "Change system setting", maybe that helps.
Also here it's mentioned that it's possible to disable the GOS for non-game apps, still waiting for answer to how though:
https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/t56kta

Lennyuk said:
Maybe instead of panicking and basing decisions on headlines and mob mentality you think about the reasons why this might have been done to start with?
Most of if not all of these apps will be very poorly optimised in general but especially for the hardware in the S22 series of devices - this means that left unchecked they will use more resources than they really need to, warming up the devices causing thermal throttling to kick in and draining the battery fast (as well as possibly reducing the lifespan of certain components).
This APK keeps these things in check, but for games where you really need more performance you can use gamebooster to switch to performance mode and recovery virtually all the lost power (if not all of it) - making it your choice to sacrifice heat and battery life for performance when you need it, not all the time.
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It is more or less the same discussion as we had with the oneplus 9 pro.
I am not seeing bad intend - but i dont't support the overall approach.
Most of theses apps are poorly optimized .... Even if so: That's none of the OS to take care of - especially not if you can't change / edit the overall parameters as a user on a "per App" Solution. I would love to see MS introduce something like this into windows....
Also the oem now actively could impact the performance of an App and the developer ist reliable anymore: "Well Samsung decided our app has to run like this, thanks for buying the pro version, but we can't help you". Wonderfull. And if Samsung has a bad day - maybe we are dropping the performance of some famous apps even more.... cause samsung would love to push the own alternative. Which includes some new advertising service... One could get creative with this stuff.
The reduction of lifespan is also a argument which is... at least questionable. I would argue that this is then poor product design or use of wrong or not fitting-quality components for the job. Makeing up "flaws" in Hardware by Software isn't really a solution to the overall problem

OK, so apparently this GOS thing is what the "Processing speed" option controls. It enables all apps to run at native speeds. I thought it just raised the clock speeds or something. Hmm..

@omnimax
not really. The thing is that the term - "Game Optimizing Service" is a bit missleading.
It is not about allowing named applications to run "native" or "unristricted". Named applications run with predefined ressourcess which aren't by any means "native". It's not about "raising" clockspeeds. It is about restriction of availeable ressourcces.

Lennyuk said:
Maybe instead of panicking and basing decisions on headlines and mob mentality you think about the reasons why this might have been done to start with?
Most of if not all of these apps will be very poorly optimised in general but especially for the hardware in the S22 series of devices - this means that left unchecked they will use more resources than they really need to, warming up the devices causing thermal throttling to kick in and draining the battery fast (as well as possibly reducing the lifespan of certain components).
This APK keeps these things in check, but for games where you really need more performance you can use gamebooster to switch to performance mode and recovery virtually all the lost power (if not all of it) - making it your choice to sacrifice heat and battery life for performance when you need it, not all the time.
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Nah, this is the same situation as OP did with OP9 series, except US SD user's cant even root and remove it completely so you're stuck at their mercy. If it was configurable, not enabled by default, only affected games and didn't phone home all the time, they might get a pass.... but the way it's implemented is pretty much the definition of malware.
Can't even opt-out
Always runs, with permissions or not.
Phones home with potentially identifying information. (EU people, check out how GDPR is handled here, it's probably not)
Makes your device slow.
The road to hell is paved on good intentions and what not...

I am really amused to see so much discussion on this here on XDA and social media as well. For 98% of the folks, as long as your phone runs smooth and gives you an all day battery life, enjoy it. Many app developers are also not saints. They may leak data and bloat code etc so OEMs need to take the matter in their hands. For avid gamers, they should probably get a gaming machine and use phones only for casual gaming. With current tech limits, gaming on phones will necessitate some tweaks to optimize performance. Apple is polished because it simply stops everything else in the background and focuses ONLY on 1 task on the foreground. And iPhones also do heat up after sometime while gaming.

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I am really amused to see so much discussion on this here on XDA and social media as well. For 98% of the folks, as long as your phone runs smooth and gives you an all day battery life, enjoy it. Many app developers are also not saints. They may leak data and bloat code etc so OEMs need to take the matter in their hands. For avid gamers, they should probably get a gaming machine and use phones only for casual gaming. With current tech limits, gaming on phones will necessitate some tweaks to optimize performance. Apple is polished because it simply stops everything else in the background and focuses ONLY on 1 task on the foreground. And iPhones also do heat up after sometime while gaming.
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It's really not the OEM's place to "take matter into their own hands". Don't push your use case on everyone else. Samsung does not know my user case, just like Apple does not know my use case, just like YOU don't know my use case. People bought this (and other, like the OP9) phone partially due to benchmark scores that should translate into performance metrics for their use case. When that's not the case, then they should be mad they got a paperweight. Check out the GOS enabled geekscore, it's basically a GS10. Why should users be happy they got a smooth UI experience when the things they actually want to do on a phone is gimped?
Your sentiment on a gaming machine... are you serious? This phone costs more than an actual mid-upper tier gaming PC. Some people like to play games on their phones, and some games are mobile only.
Again, optimizing by itself is not necessarily a bad thing. They just need to make it an opt-in experience, explain what it does clearly, let the users choose which apps to "optimize", and start letting people use their hardware like their own.

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It's really not the OEM's place to "take matter into their own hands". Don't push your use case on everyone else. Samsung does not know my user case, just like Apple does not know my use case, just like YOU don't know my use case. People bought this (and other, like the OP9) phone partially due to benchmark scores that should translate into performance metrics for their use case. When that's not the case, then they should be mad they got a paperweight. Check out the GOS enabled geekscore, it's basically a GS10. Why should users be happy they got a smooth UI experience when the things they actually want to do on a phone is gimped?
Your sentiment on a gaming machine... are you serious? This phone costs more than an actual mid-upper tier gaming PC. Some people like to play games on their phones, and some games are mobile only.
Again, optimizing by itself is not necessarily a bad thing. They just need to make it an opt-in experience, explain what it does clearly, let the users choose which apps to "optimize", and start letting people use their hardware like their own.
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Yeah, maybe you're right. They need to be transparent on the optimization choices.

lokto7 said:
Reports say that the GOS cannot be disabled the old way b'cos it's now system app since One UI 4.0?
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Cannot disable, adb fails...