Touchwiz camera vs any AOSP camera - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General

I really like the camera functions and modes on the stock TW. However I have been trying out various AOSP roms and I feel that the camera quality is not the same and the modes for the AOSP camera dont seem to work very well like the TW do. Has anybody compared them? Or is it just my imagination?

Aosp camera is not as good as tw one
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This has always been the case for me. It sucks since I do enjoy aosp. But the Samsung camera on the s4 is really nice.
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I was in the same situation with my old htc inspire. The sense roms had the best camera but the aosp, aokp, even miui couldn't compare.
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I wish there was a way to get the best of both!
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When I had an AOSP rom running, I clearly noticed the downgrade in camera performance. For one thing, AOSP took about 1-2 seconds to snap a shot, whereas the TW rom (which I now have loaded) was pretty much instantaneous. The quality of the photos was lacking on the AOSP rom as well.
Yeah that would be awesome to have a TW camera version on AOSP, because I really do like everything else about AOSP.
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You aren't alone.
I loved using aokp by task but unfortunately the camera was sluggish and slow compared to tw camera.
So I switched over to cleanrom which is essentially stock with all the bloatware gone. Thankfully scott was able to make it happen. Even now, I am using tw camera. I could care less all the features in tw camera but the quality and speed are very nice compared to aokp's.

one of the reasons I'm sticking with a TW rom.

As much as i love the camera on TW, I just can't stand the legginess on tw.
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There is no comparison
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AOSP camera has and will always be garbage. That's the only thing that keeps me coming back to TW or any stock rom on my devices. it just so awful, there's really no comparison between any stock rom camera and the garbage AOSP camera.

eortizr said:
AOSP camera has and will always be garbage. That's the only thing that keeps me coming back to TW or any stock rom on my devices. it just so awful, there's really no comparison between any stock rom camera and the garbage AOSP camera.
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Try flashing the Google Play edition ROM, camera app is flawless. It literally takes pictures just as good as the touch wiz camera. And you get working photosphere
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cundiffr said:
Try flashing the Google Play edition ROM, camera app is flawless. It literally takes pictures just as good as the touch wiz camera. And you get working photosphere
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What ROM is this? I would just like the camera app to compare.

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thought one of the previous pages was the last page...my question has already been answered

You can download and install the Nexus Experience camera (without ROOT may I add) on your stock rom. It works perfectly. I really love the fact that I can use my TW camera and when I feel like using PhotoSphere or something I can just open the other camera. You can download the file in the link below. Just installs like any other APK
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...a-from-google-play-edition-devices-root-only/

Found this, don't know how well it works but they're getting there!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341770
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neriamarillo said:
Found this, don't know how well it works but they're getting there!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341770
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::grabs popcorn:: i'm watching that thread

The aosp camera takes just as good of quality photos as the touchwiz variant. If you doubt this statement then show me proof. I use cm10.1 on this device and I've got a pretty good knack for photography owning a nicer Sony nex.. So understanding the settings and your environment is most important to capturing a good photo.
Guys, don't believe the fluff around the touchwiz camera, its not any better - its the same hardware and that's what matters.

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The aosp camera takes just as good of quality photos as the touchwiz variant. If you doubt this statement then show me proof. I use cm10.1 on this device and I've got a pretty good knack for photography owning a nicer Sony nex.. So understanding the settings and your environment is most important to capturing a good photo.
Guys, don't believe the fluff around the touchwiz camera, its not any better - its the same hardware and that's what matters.
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So what youre saying is that I will get the same exact picture with either camera? I have tested the newer AOSP cameras and it has gotten better but I think on a few modes, like for example night mode, pictures do come out better on TW. Please clarify this because im itching to stay on AOSP and the camera is one of the biggest falls for me to stay on TW.
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Any comparison must include not only sample pictures/video but also account for the user experience while in the camera app. If AOSP cameras take longer to focus and snap pictures, that means the experience using the camera is worse than on TW, even if the actual pictures are equal in quality. It's all subjective anyway. (objective? I always mix those two up)
Comparing the two is like trying to compare SLCD to Super AMOLED screens. You will never ever get everyone to agree one is better than the other and the debates will go on and on.

Related

Best Camera App

There are quite a few out there, what do you think is the best camera and and what apps have you tried (if you think one is best, but haven't tried others, not very valid tbh!)
Myself, I would like one that takes pics in the same ratio as my phone screen. The Desire HD would do this. I know you actually lose resolution, but they look better on the phone...
Can't say I've tried them all, but Vignette is pretty good. It has a wide range of options to select from.
+1 for Vignette - I use it all the time
you can check out my review of it from the link in my signature
Had a quick play with Vignette, certainly seems very good. I love I can set the volume rocker to be the shutter release!
Is there a way to change aspect ratio of the photo's, so it takes full screen? If I select Full Screen of 16:9 as the frame, it does this, but crops the photo to only be about 600 by 300...
Another +1 user for Vignette here =D
Camera Magic is the one i use most. Just because it's fast and has both rapid fire mode and timer mode.
Camera 360 ultimate is kool also.
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yes 360 is really nice
I'm shopping for a new camera app right now, as the stock one for AOSP ROMs is horrible. Can't believe how crappy it is, especially after coming off a modded Sense ROM (Virtuous) where that camera kicked ass. Right now I'm torn between Vignetta and Camera Advance. It seems that most here like Vignette, but what about Camera Advance? On Amazon it only got 3/5 stars, but after playing with the "free" version it seems pretty good.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Miui Camera or Sleek Camera. Miui is basically a prettier version of the stock camera and seems to work well on CM7 if you turn down the resolution.
Sleek Camera is a little bit buggy but it takes high quality photos on CM7 roms without any bloat or all the extras of Camera 360 and others. I highly recommend this app as a partial fix for CM7 users.
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dustrho said:
I'm shopping for a new camera app right now, as the stock one for AOSP ROMs is horrible. Can't believe how crappy it is, especially after coming off a modded Sense ROM (Virtuous) where that camera kicked ass. Right now I'm torn between Vignetta and Camera Advance. It seems that most here like Vignette, but what about Camera Advance? On Amazon it only got 3/5 stars, but after playing with the "free" version it seems pretty good.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
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Camera Advance Pro is very good so far in my testing but still suffers from the same problems as the stock CM7 camera.
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+1 Vinette
It's good. +1 for Vinette, though little bit slow.
+1 Vignette is pretty good xD
I think Pro HD Camera is the best.many settings available after take a photo
I just want an app that controls shutter speed, but pretty sure that can't happen.
tommyboy2034 said:
I just want an app that controls shutter speed, but pretty sure that can't happen.
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Precisely what I am wishing for too
+1 for camera360.
What's wrong with the original camera? 0_o
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What's wrong with the original camera? 0_o
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Well the Milestone 2 camera is pretty bad, camera 360 allowed me to take some great pics. My friend who has a SGS didn't notice any difference with 360 compared to his stock app.
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Little Photo has some nice effects although I wouldn't say its a camera replacement app. Coming from the iPhone which has so many wonderful camera apps, I must say android does seem a little behind. I wonder why it doesn't have the same broad range of apps?

Camera Apps for AOSP

CM10/AOKP may not have the Sense camera, but the the Play store seems to have some viable alternatives. What camera Apps would you guys recommend for the HOX?
Running AOKP Build 3 if that makes any difference.
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Chrysis said:
CM10/AOKP may not have the Sense camera, but the the Play store seems to have some viable alternatives. What camera Apps would you guys recommend for the HOX?
Running AOKP Build 3 if that makes any difference.
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If you are looking for something similar in quality to the Sense cam, I think you may be out of luck. It has to do with the camera framework being specific to Sense. AOKP and AOSP roms don't have the same integration to 'unlock' the same quality. Or so the internet told me
AOSP does not have the same drivers for the camera/camcorder hardware that Sense has. HTC made the drivers specifically for Sense, and specifically for the camera that the HOX has, so obviously, the Sense camera will ALWAYS be better.
AOSP ROMs are currently using an open-source camera/camcorder driver, so yes it can be improved and the possibility IS there for it to be just as good, if not better, than the Sense camera, but it is VERY hard since HTC doesn't help out at all
z3r0fam3 said:
If you are looking for something similar in quality to the Sense cam, I think you may be out of luck. It has to do with the camera framework being specific to Sense. AOKP and AOSP roms don't have the same integration to 'unlock' the same quality. Or so the internet told me
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jakew02 said:
AOSP does not have the same drivers for the camera/camcorder hardware that Sense has. HTC made the drivers specifically for Sense, and specifically for the camera that the HOX has, so obviously, the Sense camera will ALWAYS be better.
AOSP ROMs are currently using an open-source camera/camcorder driver, so yes it can be improved and the possibility IS there for it to be just as good, if not better, than the Sense camera, but it is VERY hard since HTC doesn't help out at all
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Both of you are missing the point, reread the op he is asking for a alternative camera for aosp as the stock one sucks
Try to find the miui camera. Its much better than the aosp one
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superchilpil said:
Both of you are missing the point, reread the op he is asking for a alternative camera for aosp as the stock one sucks
Try to find the miui camera. Its much better than the aosp one
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ah ok,
well in that case, i've heard good things about Angel Camera, but never used it personally
I use Camera Zoom FX
Ucam works great.
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Chrysis said:
CM10/AOKP may not have the Sense camera, but the the Play store seems to have some viable alternatives. What camera Apps would you guys recommend for the HOX?
Running AOKP Build 3 if that makes any difference.
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Try ucam it has lot of features like htc cam
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superchilpil said:
Both of you are missing the point, reread the op he is asking for a alternative camera for aosp as the stock one sucks
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Can I ask a similar, related question? Do the 3rd party camera apps mentioned above work on Sense ROMs too?
mrbillishere said:
Can I ask a similar, related question? Do the 3rd party camera apps mentioned above work on Sense ROMs too?
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they should work. try a free one if you're concerned.
also, camera zoom x is on sale in the play store today. haven't tried it myself.
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[Q] Change Camera & Beats Audio after flashed custom ROM?

Sorry for my noobness... but I flashed the paranoid ROM for my one S, the ROM is awesome except I don't like the new camera UI(It has a solid bar that takes up 1/4 of the screen, just for the shot button...), and I don't know if its possible to change this?
Another thing is how am I able to get beats Audio after custom ROM?
thanks in advance!
Paranoid is based of CM10/9 (main point is its stock android) so you will not be able to use the sense camera as it requires the sense framework. Basically, the camera requires HTC's proprietary camera drivers that are only available in sense-based roms like viper. Unless some magical developer with amazing skills comes along, it will never be possible. Now for beats, i have a solution and its called Awesomebeats.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728391
i personally don't like it as i prefer a flat sound without any EQ changes but whatever, to each there own.
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Thanks! that helps a lot!
so if im not mistaken, it means that basically all the stock CM9/10's camera UI has that huge bar taking over the screen, and resulting smaller pictures?
what if I install some third party camera software and use those instead, do I get the same basic performance(pic quality) from my camera?
Didn't virtuous team achieve something like this over in the sensation boards? Basicly a real senseless Rom that kept the camera but replaced basicly everything else with aosp stuff all within the HTC framework? That would be really interesting if someone can achieve that for us since we all love aosp but want to keep the camera
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daniel3323 said:
Thanks! that helps a lot!
so if im not mistaken, it means that basically all the stock CM9/10's camera UI has that huge bar taking over the screen, and resulting smaller pictures?
what if I install some third party camera software and use those instead, do I get the same basic performance(pic quality) from my camera?
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Yes and no. Im going to assume that when you took your pictures on sense, you left the widescreen setting, meaning the pictures you took with the sense camera are actually smaller. When left in widescreen, they cropped from the top and bottom resulting in a 6 MP widescreen shot. The AOSP camera takes the full 8 MP. Dont be fooled by the aspect ratio
coronangel said:
Yes and no. Im going to assume that when you took your pictures on sense, you left the widescreen setting, meaning the pictures you took with the sense camera are actually smaller. When left in widescreen, they cropped from the top and bottom resulting in a 6 MP widescreen shot. The AOSP camera takes the full 8 MP. Dont be fooled by the aspect ratio
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Yea but too bad the quality ain't the same, google should really consider better cameras for stock I mean that's all a nexus device really lacks anyways
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This is really one of the biggest drivers for people sticking with sense-based ROMs over AOSP and/or AOKP-based ROMs.
So, if you want the stock camera - look at the sense-based ROMs on the forum.
ridearoundsolo said:
Didn't virtuous team achieve something like this over in the sensation boards? Basicly a real senseless Rom that kept the camera but replaced basicly everything else with aosp stuff all within the HTC framework? That would be really interesting if someone can achieve that for us since we all love aosp but want to keep the camera
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Link?
ridearoundsolo said:
Yea but too bad the quality ain't the same, google should really consider better cameras for stock I mean that's all a nexus device really lacks anyways
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well i did extensive tests, both low and well lit situations, quality is the same. As a matter of fact, maybe even slightly better on AOSP. There is less compression, and can be seen when zoomed in. The only difference between the AOSP camera and Sense is the speed and functionality. And if youre using a Nexus, the speed of the camera is insanely fast. Look up videos on youtube, the nexus has a good camera.
Change to the viperone s Rom its great and you keep the camera from the original Rom
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Best non sense camera?

I am considering moving away from sense 5 to a kitkat Rom of some sort. I know that the sense camera is the best around but of course this is not available for non sense Roms.
Can anyone recommend a good camera app? I would like the option of taking hdr shots and panoramic. Also I'm interested in photosphere.
Maybe the stock kitkat camera is good.. I don't know yet as I haven't worked up the courage to downgrade hboot to 2.15...
All recommendations welcome
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razlack said:
I am considering moving away from sense 5 to a kitkat Rom of some sort. I know that the sense camera is the best around but of course this is not available for non sense Roms.
Can anyone recommend a good camera app? I would like the option of taking hdr shots and panoramic. Also I'm interested in photosphere.
Maybe the stock kitkat camera is good.. I don't know yet as I haven't worked up the courage to downgrade hboot to 2.15...
All recommendations welcome
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That's a tough one. There might not be any true replacement for the sense camera. I just installed Beanstalk 4.4 ROM and I found the stock camera to be horrible. Instead I am using Camera MX. I even tested the two side-by-side while I was still running sense and I would say that camera MX is pretty comparable for standard shots. Unfortunately it doesn't do panorama.
I am also hoping to try ProCapture which DOES do panorama.
fonnae said:
That's a tough one. There might not be any true replacement for the sense camera. I just installed Beanstalk 4.4 ROM and I found the stock camera to be horrible. Instead I am using Camera MX. I even tested the two side-by-side while I was still running sense and I would say that camera MX is pretty comparable for standard shots. Unfortunately it doesn't do panorama.
I am also hoping to try ProCapture which DOES do panorama.
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AGREED SENSE Camera Better THEN any AOSP ROM.
fonnae said:
That's a tough one. There might not be any true replacement for the sense camera. I just installed Beanstalk 4.4 ROM and I found the stock camera to be horrible. Instead I am using Camera MX. I even tested the two side-by-side while I was still running sense and I would say that camera MX is pretty comparable for standard shots. Unfortunately it doesn't do panorama.
I am also hoping to try ProCapture which DOES do panorama.
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Cheers. Might give it a shot
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Camera for CM11

Hi guys
Only thing stopping me from leaving touchwiz to CM11 is the fantastic camera app we have. I love slow motion video, smooth motion and 4k video.
I don't suppose there is any way of getting best of both worlds? - lauchers are just not as smooth as they were on stock (e.g. Nova has tiny but noticeable stuttering when looking at widgets compared to my friend's N5) , so that is not really an option.
Opinions please!
Thanks
have you tried Apex launcher? Nova always stuttered with me too but Apex is smooth
The Camerais not as good on CM11as TW Roms,also the sPEN apps are not as polished as TW.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427015 try this. For camera.
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Apex doesn't seem that much better. I don't think I can try that camera withoutflashing and therefore rooting. What does it add?
Also it seems a little odd that we can port the note camera to the s4 bit not to custom ROMs..
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Apex doesn't seem that much better. I don't think I can try that camera withoutflashing and therefore rooting. What does it add?
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I like the new Google Camera app so much (despite the lack of HDR on the hlte) that I would use it even if I were running TouchWiz.

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