Q how well do our devices handle underclocking - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

So I'm planning to take a lengthy trip and want the device to save as much power as possible with out sacrificeing feature and services, so I'm figuring on underclocking to 1.2ghz so if I'm doing so how would the device and it's hardware be affected?
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FragmentedLogik said:
So I'm planning to take a lengthy trip and want the device to save as much power as possible with out sacrificeing feature and services, so I'm figuring on underclocking to 1.2ghz so if I'm doing so how would the device and it's hardware be affected?
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depends on your device - not all CPUs are created equal.
everything should run OK at 1.2.
best power saving tips are don't turn the screen on unless you have to and disable data.

Well this is the evita with the Qualcomm s4 processor I'm running viper and elemental 6.6 so if I downclock to 1.2 would I also have to undervolt to match?
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FragmentedLogik said:
Well this is the evita with the Qualcomm s4 processor I'm running viper and elemental 6.6 so if I downclock to 1.2 would I also have to undervolt to match?
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Even within the same devices CPUs differ greatly. Try it at 1.2... if that's good try 1.0. Some CPUs don't handle any underclocking/undervolting.
Trial and error is the best way to work out a happy balance between battery and performance. When you go too low with UV you'll find your device rebooting etc. Most people are ok around 850-900, but some have reboots at anything under 1000.

Thanks for the input as far as data and brightness go for power I have it set for a 15 second time out auto brightness and where data is concerned I usually have lte disabled eventhouh I live in an h+ and lte dominant area so the uc,uv is the last step
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Battery life guide.......anyone?

Being a new user of android and the HTC one s. I'm not really sure what uses all the juice and what doesn't. Is there anyone that can write up a brief guide to give beginners a guide on getting the best battery life.
Thanks
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Gavin01 said:
Being a new user of android and the HTC one s. I'm not really sure what uses all the juice and what doesn't. Is there anyone that can write up a brief guide to give beginners a guide on getting the best battery life.
Thanks
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Here is the ultimate guide....
http://www.google.com/webhp?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&source=android-home
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Gavin01 said:
Being a new user of android and the HTC one s. I'm not really sure what uses all the juice and what doesn't. Is there anyone that can write up a brief guide to give beginners a guide on getting the best battery life.
Thanks
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The guide is simple. Turn down brightness all the way, turn off data if not using it (or use 2G-only), limit the number of background apps running, use a custom kernel if possible and underclock the CPU speed below 1.5 GHz.
Use apps with dark preferably black backgrounds, AMOLEDS doesn't use any power when displaying black unlike LCDs with backlights. Set black background image, use inverted mode in browser etc. Surf old school porn- and warez sites instead of Wikipedia to profit from black backgrounds Use Wi-Fi for large downloads since a quick download using wifi will save power compared to longer times using cellular data. But by far most important is use display as little as possible and at low brightness displaying dark colors.
Turning sync off helps a lot. If you don't plan on using GPS frequently, turn that off as well. Same with Bluetooth.
Thanks guys ill check out all that info
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How do I underclock the CPU. I'm using the mjd kernel I think it is
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mdj? There might be info on this where you got the kernel. If it was included in a custom rom then there might be some sort of control app included as well, in CM9 its just part of settings. I think ppl use an app called setcpu as well sometimes, 2 USD on market.
Mdj kernal is what I have installed. So will have to try as I'm.getting horrendous battery life
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running the latest trickdroid and setcpu enabled.....
on 2g with wifi enabled i get nearly 24 hours.....battery life
on 3g with data enabled i lose about 10% battery a hour.

[Poll] Favorite CPU App

I'm curious as to what everyone's favorite app for changing kernel frequencies is. I figured I'd do a poll thread to find out so that I wouldn't have to ask in different threads from time to time. If you want you can also list why in the comments.
I been using the built in CPU freq changers, works fine.. before that I use setcpu
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InflatedTitan said:
I been using the built in CPU freq changers, works fine.. before that I use setcpu
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I just started using Voltage Control. It seems pretty good. I heard some good things about setCPU and some bad. That's why I started this thread. I wanna know the difference between all of them cuz there's so many lol. Like, I don't know if some are the same app with just different names or if they are made and coded differently to handle things differenly.
I used setcpu before anything similar was integrated into ROMs, I bought it.after a while and haven't used it since. I don't overclock or anything because I don't use my phone for games, mainly media.
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Trickster mod is what I use
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Setcpu, sometimes NoFrIlls.
I also use CPUnotify to tell me if the phones cores are active via the status bar.
WR
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I mostly use the buil-in cpu tool. Together with some other tools (CPU-Spy) it's completely sufficient.
reblow said:
I mostly use the buil-in cpu tool. Together with some other tools (CPU-Spy) it's completely sufficient.
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I love the CPU Spy app. It's usually one of the first apps I install.
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absolutelygrim said:
I used setcpu before anything similar was integrated into ROMs, I bought it.after a while and haven't used it since. I don't overclock or anything because I don't use my phone for games, mainly media.
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I never thought about that. So is overclocking really meant mostly for gaming?
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I never thought about that. So is overclocking really meant mostly for gaming?
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I'd say so. But I use to have an aria which was a 600MHz single core. I clocked it up to 806MHz. And that was considered fast 2 years ago!
With a dual core at 1.5GHz, I'd say it's nothing more than a battery drain if you aren't gaming. What I do however, is underclock my hox while the screen is off.
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absolutelygrim said:
I'd say so. But I use to have an aria which was a 600MHz single core. I clocked it up to 806MHz. And that was considered fast 2 years ago!
With a dual core at 1.5GHz, I'd say it's nothing more than a battery drain if you aren't gaming. What I do however, is underclock my hox while the screen is off.
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Using profiles? What do you underclock it to? Whenever I would do that I would set up a profile for screen off and use max 384 and min 192 or 384 but that may be a little extreme.
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Using profiles? What do you underclock it to? Whenever I would do that I would set up a profile for screen off and use max 384 and min 192 or 384 but that may be a little extreme.
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Governor powersave and max and min both at 205 MHz
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I use System Tuner Pro. It does CPU speed, voltage, I/O and so much more.
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I use System Tuner Pro. It does CPU speed, voltage, I/O and so much more.
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Same here....
I agree though, that there is rarely a real "need" to overclock unless you feel the rom is slow or you are an avid gamer..
I use SetCPU because it was the first app I came across, but I've stuck with it for the small features. I like being able to set notifications when individual profiles become active (useful for games), and seeing the "Time in State" pie chart lets me know if my CPU is being fussy when idling. Sure, other apps may have more features, but there's literally no reason for me to look for a new one
Rom toolbox pro works fantastic!
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Using No-Frills, not a whole lot of features but the most lightweight app I have found for handling OC, I like SetCPU but I would get wakelocks it seemed using profiles, so didn't add much benefit IMO.

Overclock value

I try to find more information about overclocking but I didn't find so much information .
I have many questions about overclocking which are :
1-which is the best value for desire s?a combination between daily usage and game....
2-it can harm my phone if I use a higher value?ex.1450....
3-stock value is 1024,and I set to 1200.is good or worse?
4-could someone explain every value from 1024 to 1450 value?
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Ok I've decided to give you this link to stop you triple posting this same question and filling up another development thread http://bit.ly/VO2bW1
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petrevirgil said:
I try to find more information about overclocking but I didn't find so much information .
I have many questions about overclocking which are :
1-which is the best value for desire s?a combination between daily usage and game....
2-it can harm my phone if I use a higher value?ex.1450....
3-stock value is 1024,and I set to 1200.is good or worse?
4-could someone explain every value from 1024 to 1450 value?
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I'm currently using an Interactive governor with MinCPU 368MhZ (Less is laggy) and MaxCPU 1401Mhz...
I don't have any game installed on my phone so I can't tell you how they work...But battery is very good (almost 13hours) with an heavy usage of phone and messaging!
I think the major improvement you can archieve is changing IO Governor to noop -> it's really faster and reactive...
TheLegendGZ said:
I'm currently using an Interactive governor with MinCPU 368MhZ (Less is laggy) and MaxCPU 1401Mhz...
I don't have any game installed on my phone so I can't tell you how they work...But battery is very good (almost 13hours) with an heavy usage of phone and messaging!
I think the major improvement you can archieve is changing IO Governor to noop -> it's really faster and reactive...
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Tanks for your answer,is good to know that overclocking is benefit for phone but overclocking to maximum level it won't damage your phone?I meant that you can damage your cpu if you don't have the right value....
So my question is if someone know which is the right level minimum and maximum for a balance performance between daily usage and game ...
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petrevirgil said:
Tanks for your answer,is good to know that overclocking is benefit for phone but overclocking to maximum level it won't damage your phone?I meant that you can damage your cpu if you don't have the right value....
So my question is if someone know which is the right level minimum and maximum for a balance performance between daily usage and game ...
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Every chip is different, some will handle oc to the max some won't. I suggest you start slowly and see what you're phone can handle. The phone handles most games and daily use at about 1.2. Don't try to push it too far too soon.
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petrevirgil said:
Tanks for your answer,is good to know that overclocking is benefit for phone but overclocking to maximum level it won't damage your phone?I meant that you can damage your cpu if you don't have the right value....
So my question is if someone know which is the right level minimum and maximum for a balance performance between daily usage and game ...
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Maximum: MSM8255 - Up To 1.4 GHz Scorpion (Source: Wikipedia)
Minimum: as shipped
amidabuddha said:
Maximum: MSM8255- Up To 1.4 GHz Scorpion(Source: Wikipedia)
Minimum: as shipped
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What do you mean MSM8255?I have viper saga and kernel tweaks 3X....
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TheLegendGZ said:
I'm currently using an Interactive governor with MinCPU 368MhZ (Less is laggy) and MaxCPU 1401Mhz...
I don't have any game installed on my phone so I can't tell you how they work...But battery is very good (almost 13hours) with an heavy usage of phone and messaging!
I think the major improvement you can archieve is changing IO Governor to noop -> it's really faster and reactive...
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How many level of IO Governor are and what means everyone?
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petrevirgil said:
What do you mean MSM8255?I have viper saga and kernel tweaks 3X....
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Have you even bothered to open the link? This is the chipset of our device (like a motherboard of the PC).
It contains the CPU (Scorpion), GPU (Adreno 205), and some other chips (WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, etc.)
Sorry....I will open now....thanks again....
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petrevirgil said:
How many level of IO Governor are and what means everyone?
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You can take a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23616564&postcount=6
They are descripted quite well!
Tanks to all of you...i read and i got many informations about overclocking....
Right now i have Vipersaga,tweaked kernel 3.9.0,set my cpu to
min.245-max.1200/
smartassV2 with noop and it working like a charm....In Antutu i got 4654 point....games works very well,....everything is super fast....thanks again....
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Anyone else what configuration you have?
My configuration that i write up is ok?....or i can make a better configuration ?
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petrevirgil said:
Anyone else what configuration you have?
My configuration that i write up is ok?....or i can make a better configuration ?
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It all depends on what are you using your device for. As long as it is smooth and works for you it is fine.
I personally always had lag while opening the app drawer on Viper whatever kernel and CPU setup I had.
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amidabuddha said:
It all depends on what are you using your device for. As long as it is smooth and works for you it is fine.
I personally always had lag while opening the app drawer on Viper whatever kernel and CPU setup I had.
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I dont have any problem using Viper,actually I give up using Rosie ,I use go launcher...anyway Viper it's not so perfect but it's one of the best ROM I use and I hope it will be updated until will be the best...
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Amidabudha,what is your configuration and what kernel you use?
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petrevirgil said:
Amidabudha,what is your configuration and what kernel you use?
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Desire XS + B2B
It feels like I actually bought a Desire X. Everything works, no bugs, no lags, it is super smooth. But I do not need any full Sense features
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You are using desire xs Rom....and what kind of governor and scheduler?
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petrevirgil said:
You are using desire xs Rom....and what kind of governor and scheduler?
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Have a read of this to understand about governors and schedulers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736168
CPU Governors explained
It might help you to understand more and help you ascertain what would be best for you. I think a lot of us here though use on demand and deadline
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Best overclock value

Hello,everyone....recently I overclock my desire s and thanks to many of you I received many useful information so I want to share impression how overclocking has improved performance and battery to help other like us to know what and how to use overclocking and governor....
So I start ....
I use Viper saga with tweaked kernel 3.x/ondemand with deadline/cpu min.245-max.1410
I noticed that my graphic is very good and everything works like a charm....for example in FIFA12 I noticed that even the shadow of all player are so intense and everything is so clear,it seems that improves my graphic and my phone is faster..I hope that overclocking to 1410 to not damaged my phone.So what configuration do you have ?
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Set the governor to performance. Battery eater though. But u only can choose better battery life or smoother graphics, so make up ur mind and choose one :thumbup:
When playing with overclocking unstick 'set on boot'. So that it goes back to normal once reboot in case of any freeze. Overclock it based on ur desired value, experiment with it, slowly. increase the value step by step. Leave it for a day then increase again. If it freezes then u know ur phone's limit.
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i have read that people say it's stable up to 1.5 GHz.
I have set mine to 1.3GHz to be on the safe side.
And set it to,on demand,so it only takes up more when it needs to.
setting it up to high speeds can result in a melt down,draining batteries and will shorten out the life of your phone even when stable for a couple of days so be aware of what your doing...
there is no best value for everyone, some say 1ghz is enough, some say 1.5 ghz is not enough.
so it depends on what you need, its a trial and error thing
u will get a fast response phone but battery life is sucs ... cant complain though
LOL? :what: how many threads must u made to ask a question? answer can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092673:D
why not just continue on your thread?
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Right now I'm using PACman v19.3 and I can get up to 1.8ghz no lag but battery life can sometimes get a little bit bar but works like a dream on games
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king of disaster said:
i have read that people say it's stable up to 1.5 GHz.
I have set mine to 1.3GHz to be on the safe side.
And set it to,on demand,so it only takes up more when it needs to.
setting it up to high speeds can result in a melt down,draining batteries and will shorten out the life of your phone even when stable for a couple of days so be aware of what your doing...
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How do you managed to set to 1,3Ghz?I have CPUset and I don't have the value 1,3 Ghz....
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ifti786 said:
Right now I'm using PACman v19.3 and I can get up to 1.8ghz no lag but battery life can sometimes get a little bit bar but works like a dream on games
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What kernel you have?
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Never a good idea to overclock CPU more than 1.5 GHZ . That is the maximum stable frequency for our processor.
I use my phone at 1.2 GHZ.
Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
What is the best application for overclock?
for example when I play a game to switch automatically to my desire frequency and governor?Now I have Cpu master but unfortunately i don't have more option for profile ....and is it possible to set frequency to 1300Mhz ?
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petrevirgil said:
What is the best application for overclock?
for example when I play a game to switch automatically to my desire frequency and governor?Now I have Cpu master but unfortunately i don't have more option for profile ....and is it possible to set frequency to 1300Mhz ?
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If you want separate screen on/screen off profiles, I would recommend daemon controller app (with andrev_oc installed through the app).
If you want more profiles for different situations, setcpu is probably the only real option.
Setting to 1.3 GHz depends on the kernel you're using, not on the app.
teadrinker said:
If you want separate screen on/screen off profiles, I would recommend daemon controller app (with andrev_oc installed through the app).
If you want more profiles for different situations, setcpu is probably the only real option.
Setting to 1.3 GHz depends on the kernel you're using, not on the app.
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I use tweaked kernel 3.x but i dont have the option to set to 1300....I have all value from 245 to 1495 but 1300is missing...
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petrevirgil said:
Hello,everyone....recently I overclock my desire s and thanks to many of you I received many useful information so I want to share impression how overclocking has improved performance and battery to help other like us to know what and how to use overclocking and governor....
So I start ....
I use Viper saga with tweaked kernel 3.x/ondemand with deadline/cpu min.245-max.1410
I noticed that my graphic is very good and everything works like a charm....for example in FIFA12 I noticed that even the shadow of all player are so intense and everything is so clear,it seems that improves my graphic and my phone is faster..I hope that overclocking to 1410 to not damaged my phone.So what configuration do you have ?
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I think the stable is 1,2~1,3GHz, but u can overclock it up to 1,5ghz but it eats your battery... so be careful!
dave3002 said:
I think the stable is 1,2~1,3GHz, but u can overclock it up to 1,5ghz but it eats your battery... so be careful!
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Thanks but how can I set to 1300?....I don't have that value in setCPU....
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Venom tweaks cpu settings

I'm on viper xl with elementalx default overclocked to 1.7. Venom tweaks can be a little mindboggling. Anyone wanna share their settings that provide no lag and good battery life? Which I/o scheduler and how much read ahead size? Which governor? And should I undervolt the global voltage or mess with the seperate voltages? Thanks you n advance if you have any advice
And what dpi do you guys like?
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roguly said:
I'm on viper xl with elementalx default overclocked to 1.7. Venom tweaks can be a little mindboggling. Anyone wanna share their settings that provide no lag and good battery life? Which I/o scheduler and how much read ahead size? Which governor? And should I undervolt the global voltage or mess with the seperate voltages? Thanks you n advance if you have any advice
And what dpi do you guys like?
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All phones will react differently so this information will not help you. Google each setting to see how if it will affect your phone and then change it to achieve what it is you desire. Then test, if you get reboots/bugginess, change settings and test again till things are optimized to your liking. Good luck, have fun. If this seems too much for you, my advice is don't touch those settings.
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All phones will react differently so this information will not help you. Google each setting to see how if it will affect your phone and then change it to achieve what it is you desire. Then test, if you get reboots/bugginess, change settings and test again till things are optimized to your liking. Good luck, have fun. If this seems too much for you, my advice is don't touch those settings.
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I'd like to know how all phones will react different if we all have the same phone 0.0
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ceo4eva said:
I'd like to know how all phones will react different if we all have the same phone 0.0
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Each chipset doesn't leave the factory the exact same that'd be impossible... Not all chips are clocked to 1.5 think of that as an average...having saying that..each phone will react differently to different voltages and cpu settings
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