Hello,everyone....recently I overclock my desire s and thanks to many of you I received many useful information so I want to share impression how overclocking has improved performance and battery to help other like us to know what and how to use overclocking and governor....
So I start ....
I use Viper saga with tweaked kernel 3.x/ondemand with deadline/cpu min.245-max.1410
I noticed that my graphic is very good and everything works like a charm....for example in FIFA12 I noticed that even the shadow of all player are so intense and everything is so clear,it seems that improves my graphic and my phone is faster..I hope that overclocking to 1410 to not damaged my phone.So what configuration do you have ?
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Set the governor to performance. Battery eater though. But u only can choose better battery life or smoother graphics, so make up ur mind and choose one :thumbup:
When playing with overclocking unstick 'set on boot'. So that it goes back to normal once reboot in case of any freeze. Overclock it based on ur desired value, experiment with it, slowly. increase the value step by step. Leave it for a day then increase again. If it freezes then u know ur phone's limit.
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i have read that people say it's stable up to 1.5 GHz.
I have set mine to 1.3GHz to be on the safe side.
And set it to,on demand,so it only takes up more when it needs to.
setting it up to high speeds can result in a melt down,draining batteries and will shorten out the life of your phone even when stable for a couple of days so be aware of what your doing...
there is no best value for everyone, some say 1ghz is enough, some say 1.5 ghz is not enough.
so it depends on what you need, its a trial and error thing
u will get a fast response phone but battery life is sucs ... cant complain though
LOL? :what: how many threads must u made to ask a question? answer can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092673:D
why not just continue on your thread?
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Right now I'm using PACman v19.3 and I can get up to 1.8ghz no lag but battery life can sometimes get a little bit bar but works like a dream on games
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king of disaster said:
i have read that people say it's stable up to 1.5 GHz.
I have set mine to 1.3GHz to be on the safe side.
And set it to,on demand,so it only takes up more when it needs to.
setting it up to high speeds can result in a melt down,draining batteries and will shorten out the life of your phone even when stable for a couple of days so be aware of what your doing...
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How do you managed to set to 1,3Ghz?I have CPUset and I don't have the value 1,3 Ghz....
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ifti786 said:
Right now I'm using PACman v19.3 and I can get up to 1.8ghz no lag but battery life can sometimes get a little bit bar but works like a dream on games
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What kernel you have?
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Never a good idea to overclock CPU more than 1.5 GHZ . That is the maximum stable frequency for our processor.
I use my phone at 1.2 GHZ.
Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
What is the best application for overclock?
for example when I play a game to switch automatically to my desire frequency and governor?Now I have Cpu master but unfortunately i don't have more option for profile ....and is it possible to set frequency to 1300Mhz ?
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petrevirgil said:
What is the best application for overclock?
for example when I play a game to switch automatically to my desire frequency and governor?Now I have Cpu master but unfortunately i don't have more option for profile ....and is it possible to set frequency to 1300Mhz ?
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If you want separate screen on/screen off profiles, I would recommend daemon controller app (with andrev_oc installed through the app).
If you want more profiles for different situations, setcpu is probably the only real option.
Setting to 1.3 GHz depends on the kernel you're using, not on the app.
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If you want separate screen on/screen off profiles, I would recommend daemon controller app (with andrev_oc installed through the app).
If you want more profiles for different situations, setcpu is probably the only real option.
Setting to 1.3 GHz depends on the kernel you're using, not on the app.
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I use tweaked kernel 3.x but i dont have the option to set to 1300....I have all value from 245 to 1495 but 1300is missing...
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petrevirgil said:
Hello,everyone....recently I overclock my desire s and thanks to many of you I received many useful information so I want to share impression how overclocking has improved performance and battery to help other like us to know what and how to use overclocking and governor....
So I start ....
I use Viper saga with tweaked kernel 3.x/ondemand with deadline/cpu min.245-max.1410
I noticed that my graphic is very good and everything works like a charm....for example in FIFA12 I noticed that even the shadow of all player are so intense and everything is so clear,it seems that improves my graphic and my phone is faster..I hope that overclocking to 1410 to not damaged my phone.So what configuration do you have ?
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I think the stable is 1,2~1,3GHz, but u can overclock it up to 1,5ghz but it eats your battery... so be careful!
dave3002 said:
I think the stable is 1,2~1,3GHz, but u can overclock it up to 1,5ghz but it eats your battery... so be careful!
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Thanks but how can I set to 1300?....I don't have that value in setCPU....
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Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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at the risk of offending you, I would not recommend setting your phone to 2ghz..I can assure you nothing great in the long term is going to happen. As for kernels give LordClockan and TalonAce a glance, I'm not 100% sure if they are 2ghz kernels but its a good jumping off point
2ghz will fry your CPU. Maybe not initially buy your phone will definitely fail prematurely. The only reasons other people do it is because they can and they probably have a newer phone for their daily. Even just overclocking a little bit can have a negative impact but not as drastic. If you insist on overclocking I wouldnt exceed 1.4.
With that said there are several Aosp kernels that will allow you to push it to the limit. Just search the dev forum.
Overclocking your cpu will not hurt it unless its running hotter than the cooling system can handle. It will cause lock ups and failure to boot. If you start overvolting it, you WILL cause premature damage to the chip itself. Optimum overclock has always been 10-20% increase for any processor. Personally id rather underclock and undervolt a little, runs cooler and less power drain.
gizmoe is right, 2ghz is a 'just cuz i can' overclock. it wont run stable at that level. its like the 8ghz overclocks you see on the intel processors using LN2 cooling lol.
2ghz is bad.
I ran my inspire at 2ghz and besides the battery practically counting down the phones was heating up and that was maybe 15 minutes. Definitely not a goods idea.
Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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knightofthe9 said:
Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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Setcpu use to be the go to app but many found it to lag after waking the phone. Many have now moved on to daemon controller. From the looks of it you're using CM7 which has the function built in..I believe its menu > settings > CM settings > performance...or something like that...don't check set on boot until you know how much OC your phone can candle. If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
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I've clocked to 2ghz a few times just to get a crazy quadrant score but that's about it. I usually keep mine somewhere in the 900mhz range with a little lite uv'ing and found that to be plenty.
2ghz can definitely be bad for your cpu..... Like to much bacon can be bad for your arteries.....
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TripnRaver has released a 2.2 ghz undervolted kernel for the sensation!!!!! Its actually stable and it doesn't rape battery life!! Unbelievable!
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Sensation-al! said:
TripnRaver has released a 2.2 ghz undervolted kernel for the sensation!!!!! Its actually stable and it doesn't rape battery life!! Unbelievable!
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does he have a Corsair Hydro Series H100 Cooler strapped to it?
Hahaha not even! Its barely getting warm for me! I LOVE that guy
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Could you previously overclock to 1836 without problems? I only ask as that clock for me way back was too much.Wondered if he had cracked the "only for some devices"
I was made aware that it is not 2.2ghz and is actually 1.78ghz with false identification on actual speed, trip has been made aware of this whether he did it intentially or by accident.
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Hahaha not even! Its barely getting warm for me! I LOVE that guy
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so what exactly does this do for the performance of your phone? Is it just apps opening up faster and games a little better?
I understand the performance gains in cpu overclocking for computers in that you get faster encoding for videos, maybe a few more fps in gaming etc but how noticeable is doing an overclock for your phone?
Is it more of a just because you can or is there a real benefit to the user that they can notice?
A 30% overclock on your PC might give you 10-15% better performance but does that equate to similar improvements with a moving to 1.5 or 1.78ghz on your phone?
DANOFDANGER said:
I was made aware that it is not 2.2ghz and is actually 1.78ghz with false identification on actual speed, trip has been made aware of this whether he did it intentially or by accident.
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Haha I want to use a kernel that says "5.0GHz" just to show off to other people
sergeybrin said:
Haha I want to use a kernel that says "5.0GHz" just to show off to other people
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why stop at 5? carry a bottle of Liquid Nitrogen with you and the sky is the limit !!
Even IF it isn't 2.2 (which surprises me) it is INCREDIBLY snappy and faster than when I was running sebastianFM's 1.728 or whatever and benchmarks are pretty damn high
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Sensation-al! said:
Even IF it isn't 2.2 (which surprises me) it is INCREDIBLY snappy and faster than when I was running sebastianFM's 1.728 or whatever and benchmarks are pretty damn high
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let us know how its going after a week or so please
Eh, not amazed but it's decent I guess... Coming from the Glacier we have a kernel capable of 2.1GHz but I never go above 1.4 anyway. Clock speed isn't everything.
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so what exactly does this do for the performance of your phone? Is it just apps opening up faster and games a little better?
I understand the performance gains in cpu overclocking for computers in that you get faster encoding for videos, maybe a few more fps in gaming etc but how noticeable is doing an overclock for your phone?
Is it more of a just because you can or is there a real benefit to the user that they can notice?
A 30% overclock on your PC might give you 10-15% better performance but does that equate to similar improvements with a moving to 1.5 or 1.78ghz on your phone?
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It's a balance there is only so much you can get out of the CPU in anything once it passes the threshold you get less from it more heat less life we are at 1.2 default I would say after 2.0 we won't get much more but a dead battery is 3 hrs I got mine at 1.1 I am good with battery vs power consumption
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craven667 said:
It's a balance there is only so much you can get out of the CPU in anything once it passes the threshold you get less from it more heat less life we are at 1.2 default I would say after 2.0 we won't get much more but a dead battery is 3 hrs I got mine at 1.1 I am good with battery vs power consumption
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so you downclocked yours by .1GHZ? why did you do this?
BigRoo69 said:
so you downclocked yours by .1GHZ? why did you do this?
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He just said it...the battery consumption is much better. I don't run any apps/games which need the higher clock rates. So I also underclocked to 1.1 Ghz and I'm very happy with it.
Yes I saw this kernel! This is awesome! But my phone will fry i think
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tiigeri said:
I also underclocked to 1.1 Ghz and I'm very happy with it.
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so going from 1.2 down to 1.1 improved battery life?? By how long?
A lot but I have set cpu and can jump to 1.7 easy
You tell me as of now what app needs more then 1.1 1.2 ??? Once phone boots up the phone don't need more then that
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I beleave the CPU speed is at max when you boot up and I don't run benchmark allday everyday lol
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Is this a bug in the rom, or is it safe?
It's constantly running on the OC of 1500MHz.
Usually the cpu is meant to scale down when idle. Not the case here.
Thanks
Are you using setCPU, system tuner, or any user app to OC?
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stringer7 said:
Are you using setCPU, system tuner, or any user app to OC?
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It's OC'd out of the box
I just downloaded and run CPU MASTER FREE and it shows constant 1500MHz reading.
I think I will have to depart from this ROM (even though it's very good). I am assuming it will kill the already week battery
benyben123 said:
It's OC'd out of the box
I just downloaded and run CPU MASTER FREE and it shows constant 1500MHz reading.
I think I will have to depart from this ROM (even though it's very good). I am assuming it will kill the already week battery
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Try another CPU controller like system tuner, setcpu or no frills. Its not the roms fault.
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benyben123 said:
It's OC'd out of the box
I just downloaded and run CPU MASTER FREE and it shows constant 1500MHz reading.
I think I will have to depart from this ROM (even though it's very good). I am assuming it will kill the already week battery
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and even if u r using cpu master free , just make sure that its on Ondemand , n everything wll b just fine
can someone please help me with how to speed up my cpu speed? im new to flashing roms and i just flashed the android revolution hd 6.6.5 with beats audio but my ghz still says 1.2??? is there a app/tool i need to speed it up?? sorry for the noobie question!!!
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gatorboy87 said:
can someone please help me with how to speed up my cpu speed? im new to flashing roms and i just flashed the android revolution hd 6.6.5 with beats audio but my ghz still says 1.2??? is there a app/tool i need to speed it up?? sorry for the noobie question!!!
HTC sensation 4g
android revolution 6.6.5 XE with beats audio (ICS 4.0.3)
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Use SetCPU app
ok thanx ill look for it!! and another question...ive seen alot of ppl talking about overclocking what does that mean??
gatorboy87 said:
ok thanx ill look for it!! and another question...ive seen alot of ppl talking about overclocking what does that mean??
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Overclocking implies increasing the CPU clock speed (more cycles per second).
Overclocking helps increase performance my overloading the processor thus, everything runs faster.
This can however cause phone hardware to ware out faster and cause overheating problems also.
our cpu can handle 1.5 ghz of clock speed. by default is set at 1.2.
the overclock is speed up the cpu above the maximum speed (es 1.7, the maximum stable clock we reached IMHO)
obviously high speed means less the battery, more heating and you risk to damage the cpu, because the frequency is above the max. limit
I personally keep it at 1.2ghz for daily use and at 1.5ghz for gaming, you should find you settings...
take a look to the governors, too. they are very important to control your device's response and speed. search for a specific guide to understand better
thanx allot to the both of you!!! helped me out heaps. Ill play around with it
gatorboy87 said:
thanx allot to the both of you!!! helped me out heaps. Ill play around with it
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Not too much. 1.2-1.6 is the safe range at most lower 1.7
Don't use an app.Do it naturally with a kernel use a faux v006.
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ok can u post a link so i can download??? thanx
Make sure the kernel is compatiable with your Rom and firmware! You can find then either in Android development, or themes and apps. Try development first. Good luck! remember over clocking can be more of a battery drain, just so you are aware of that. Have fun!
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Google faux kernels and you will find them o.k.
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I would not recommend using setCpu it will not give u the best performance.
Use a kernel which is already overclocked and it will be much better. I recommend faux or bricked with that rom.
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What from are you using?
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I try to find more information about overclocking but I didn't find so much information .
I have many questions about overclocking which are :
1-which is the best value for desire s?a combination between daily usage and game....
2-it can harm my phone if I use a higher value?ex.1450....
3-stock value is 1024,and I set to 1200.is good or worse?
4-could someone explain every value from 1024 to 1450 value?
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Ok I've decided to give you this link to stop you triple posting this same question and filling up another development thread http://bit.ly/VO2bW1
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petrevirgil said:
I try to find more information about overclocking but I didn't find so much information .
I have many questions about overclocking which are :
1-which is the best value for desire s?a combination between daily usage and game....
2-it can harm my phone if I use a higher value?ex.1450....
3-stock value is 1024,and I set to 1200.is good or worse?
4-could someone explain every value from 1024 to 1450 value?
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I'm currently using an Interactive governor with MinCPU 368MhZ (Less is laggy) and MaxCPU 1401Mhz...
I don't have any game installed on my phone so I can't tell you how they work...But battery is very good (almost 13hours) with an heavy usage of phone and messaging!
I think the major improvement you can archieve is changing IO Governor to noop -> it's really faster and reactive...
TheLegendGZ said:
I'm currently using an Interactive governor with MinCPU 368MhZ (Less is laggy) and MaxCPU 1401Mhz...
I don't have any game installed on my phone so I can't tell you how they work...But battery is very good (almost 13hours) with an heavy usage of phone and messaging!
I think the major improvement you can archieve is changing IO Governor to noop -> it's really faster and reactive...
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Tanks for your answer,is good to know that overclocking is benefit for phone but overclocking to maximum level it won't damage your phone?I meant that you can damage your cpu if you don't have the right value....
So my question is if someone know which is the right level minimum and maximum for a balance performance between daily usage and game ...
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petrevirgil said:
Tanks for your answer,is good to know that overclocking is benefit for phone but overclocking to maximum level it won't damage your phone?I meant that you can damage your cpu if you don't have the right value....
So my question is if someone know which is the right level minimum and maximum for a balance performance between daily usage and game ...
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Every chip is different, some will handle oc to the max some won't. I suggest you start slowly and see what you're phone can handle. The phone handles most games and daily use at about 1.2. Don't try to push it too far too soon.
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petrevirgil said:
Tanks for your answer,is good to know that overclocking is benefit for phone but overclocking to maximum level it won't damage your phone?I meant that you can damage your cpu if you don't have the right value....
So my question is if someone know which is the right level minimum and maximum for a balance performance between daily usage and game ...
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Maximum: MSM8255 - Up To 1.4 GHz Scorpion (Source: Wikipedia)
Minimum: as shipped
amidabuddha said:
Maximum: MSM8255- Up To 1.4 GHz Scorpion(Source: Wikipedia)
Minimum: as shipped
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What do you mean MSM8255?I have viper saga and kernel tweaks 3X....
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TheLegendGZ said:
I'm currently using an Interactive governor with MinCPU 368MhZ (Less is laggy) and MaxCPU 1401Mhz...
I don't have any game installed on my phone so I can't tell you how they work...But battery is very good (almost 13hours) with an heavy usage of phone and messaging!
I think the major improvement you can archieve is changing IO Governor to noop -> it's really faster and reactive...
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How many level of IO Governor are and what means everyone?
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petrevirgil said:
What do you mean MSM8255?I have viper saga and kernel tweaks 3X....
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Have you even bothered to open the link? This is the chipset of our device (like a motherboard of the PC).
It contains the CPU (Scorpion), GPU (Adreno 205), and some other chips (WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, etc.)
Sorry....I will open now....thanks again....
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petrevirgil said:
How many level of IO Governor are and what means everyone?
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You can take a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23616564&postcount=6
They are descripted quite well!
Tanks to all of you...i read and i got many informations about overclocking....
Right now i have Vipersaga,tweaked kernel 3.9.0,set my cpu to
min.245-max.1200/
smartassV2 with noop and it working like a charm....In Antutu i got 4654 point....games works very well,....everything is super fast....thanks again....
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Anyone else what configuration you have?
My configuration that i write up is ok?....or i can make a better configuration ?
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petrevirgil said:
Anyone else what configuration you have?
My configuration that i write up is ok?....or i can make a better configuration ?
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It all depends on what are you using your device for. As long as it is smooth and works for you it is fine.
I personally always had lag while opening the app drawer on Viper whatever kernel and CPU setup I had.
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amidabuddha said:
It all depends on what are you using your device for. As long as it is smooth and works for you it is fine.
I personally always had lag while opening the app drawer on Viper whatever kernel and CPU setup I had.
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I dont have any problem using Viper,actually I give up using Rosie ,I use go launcher...anyway Viper it's not so perfect but it's one of the best ROM I use and I hope it will be updated until will be the best...
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Amidabudha,what is your configuration and what kernel you use?
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petrevirgil said:
Amidabudha,what is your configuration and what kernel you use?
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Desire XS + B2B
It feels like I actually bought a Desire X. Everything works, no bugs, no lags, it is super smooth. But I do not need any full Sense features
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You are using desire xs Rom....and what kind of governor and scheduler?
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petrevirgil said:
You are using desire xs Rom....and what kind of governor and scheduler?
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Have a read of this to understand about governors and schedulers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736168
CPU Governors explained
It might help you to understand more and help you ascertain what would be best for you. I think a lot of us here though use on demand and deadline
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