[Q] Disabling "clear data" button + removing app icon from launcher? - General Questions and Answers

Hello all,
I have a neighbor who has a son that has been getting into trouble...specifically a lot of illegal activity. I don't want to go to far into it but it is very serious trouble (not just smoking weed or whatever). My neighbor has installed the app "SMS Backup and Restore" onto the sons phone without the sons knowledge. All SMS will be sent to my neighbors email. The phone was rooted so I was able to make the app a system app so it cannot be uninstalled.
However, we still have 2 remaining issues.
1.) The app icon could generate suspicion
2.) If a user of the phone clicks "clear data" than the settings of the app will be erased and the SMS messages will not be received by my neighbor
How would we be able to remove the app icon from the launcher as well as disable the clear data button? One idea I had for disabling the clear data button was to get the source code of the app and going from there. The source code, however, is not publicly available so that plan has been thrown out the window.

Anyone have any ideas or is this completely impossible?

SMS backup and restore is not a "spying" app, all the backups are stored locally on the system, so your neighbor would still have the problem of retrieving said information, which I guess is your question. Your solution would to install malware on his phone that would sit on the phone without any icons or appearing in the applications menu. However, I would recommend that your neighbor talk to his/her son, rather than attempt to spy on him. If he finds out, it would only cause your neighbor's plan to backfire and probably make things worse.

syung said:
SMS backup and restore is not a "spying" app, all the backups are stored locally on the system, so your neighbor would still have the problem of retrieving said information, which I guess is your question. Your solution would to install malware on his phone that would sit on the phone without any icons or appearing in the applications menu. However, I would recommend that your neighbor talk to his/her son, rather than attempt to spy on him. If he finds out, it would only cause your neighbor's plan to backfire and probably make things worse.
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The SMS Backup and Restore has an option where the backups can be sent to an email address. My neighbor has tried talking to his son before but the son refuses to listen to reason of any sort. Where could we acquire the malware to install on the phone?

LazyNDaCrazyDayz said:
The SMS Backup and Restore has an option where the backups can be sent to an email address. My neighbor has tried talking to his son before but the son refuses to listen to reason of any sort. Where could we acquire the malware to install on the phone?
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You won't find any help with that here.
Wayne Tech Nexus

zelendel said:
You won't find any help with that here.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Alright thanks anyway. We will find a solution.
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More compatible backup program?

So, TiBu is great and everything, but is a real pain in the butt sometimes because it just restores all the files directly which can cause compatibility issues.
Is there an app out there there backs up data and later re-injects settings, so to speak, into the existing system, to avoid incompatibility?
For an example of what I'm talk about, ex WinMo users can observe PIM Backup, how it injected messages and contacts into the new system database.
I realize this can be lengthy, but worth it in my opinion if possible.
Any ideas?
Regards
Smith
I recently used TiBu, but I long pursed my apis and chose "view in market" then installed directly from the market (took longer but avoids the compatibility/corruption issues), then chose to install data only for each app.
Hope this helps ya......
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I used this http://global.mobileaction.com/product/product_AM.jsp It seems to work pretty good as long as you have a wireless network at home.

Sending phone back, best way to back things up?

After having nothing but trouble with my Sensation since June, I finally decided it needed to go back to Tmobile for a replacement. Thankfully I held off on rooting it since I know that can be a very hit or miss situation to fix prior to returning it. What is the best way to back up my apps and data so that I can get the new phone "looking" like this one? Clearly I can not root, so I need a solution that does not require tinkering. I have heard that all apps downloaded from the official Market should be available again (at no charge), can anyone confirm this? If so, how do I go about getting those apps? Also, will the same happen for free daily apps I downloaded from the Amazon App store?
Hi,
I'm also waiting for maturity and ease on rooting/unrooting this phone for the same reason you are
I had to do a factory reset on my Sensation after a couple of weeks and was pleasantly surpised to not only get my contacts back but all the apps I'd installed via Market.
Ensure both boxes are checked under "backup and restore" in Privacy settings and that you've been synchronizing with Google ok and you should get all the Market apps + your contacts and also your settings (like notification, ringtone etc) back
Sorry dunno about Amazon. Hope this helps.
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RazyB said:
Hi,
I'm also waiting for maturity and ease on rooting/unrooting this phone for the same reason you are
I had to do a factory reset on my Sensation after a couple of weeks and was pleasantly surpised to not only get my contacts back but all the apps I'd installed via Market.
Ensure both boxes are checked under "backup and restore" in Privacy settings and that you've been synchronizing with Google ok and you should get all the Market apps + your contacts and also your settings (like notification, ringtone etc) back
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That is interesting. Now, the question is did that work because you were using the same device? I am wondering how it works once you switch to a totally new piece of hardware with a different ESN and so forth.
You will keep all your maket app. Also, your Amazon app store purchase will be there if you sign in with the same account. Just backup your contact info to google and that should be it. The only thing that you will lose is app settings and data.
gottabekin said:
You will keep all your maket app. Also, your Amazon app store purchase will be there if you sign in with the same account. Just backup your contact info to google and that should be it. The only thing that you will lose is app settings and data.
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+1. all i had to do was setup my account on my second Sensation and it was just like the first one.
DrBrick said:
+1. all i had to do was setup my account on my second Sensation and it was just like the first one.
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Will text messages be carried over to the new device as well?
webmaster said:
Will text messages be carried over to the new device as well?
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Use SMS Backup in the market, remember to keep your current SD csrd, the backup will be on it. Backup with Gmail works good too, both are available in the market.
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Use MyBackup Root if you're rooted. It saves your stuff on your SD card and you can restore it on a new device.
webmaster said:
After having nothing but trouble with my Sensation since June, I finally decided it needed to go back to Tmobile for a replacement. Thankfully I held off on rooting it since I know that can be a very hit or miss situation to fix prior to returning it. What is the best way to back up my apps and data so that I can get the new phone "looking" like this one? Clearly I can not root, so I need a solution that does not require tinkering. I have heard that all apps downloaded from the official Market should be available again (at no charge), can anyone confirm this? If so, how do I go about getting those apps? Also, will the same happen for free daily apps I downloaded from the Amazon App store?
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You will be able to keep all of your amazon appstore and market purchases. You just have to redownload them while signed into the same gmail account that you made the original transaction. Be wary of some game apps however.. I remember there was a problem for some users using Gameloft apps where they were unable to redownload the games they had purchased and were told by the company that they had to repurchase them for use on their new device. I haven't had the problem since I back up with Titanium, but if root is not an option, then you've been warned
Rhiannon224 said:
Use SMS Backup in the market, remember to keep your current SD csrd, the backup will be on it. Backup with Gmail works good too, both are available in the market.
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Thanks, I will check those out.

[Q] Android without Google, completely

Hey,
jsut thought about this thought the whole day. I´ve got a Moto XT720 (Stock ROM) and it works pretty good. Now the thing is, I have the Google Account and so on. But I do not want that Google is tracking me, has access to my phone, and that my phone can connect to google servers (Mail, Calendar, Market, SYSTEM).
Is it possible that I can delete some apk´s so that I have a real standalone mobile phone?
Sorry for my bad english,
greetings
you gotta be kidding
Google's stuff is the spirit of their OS... Android needs google's account for the market moreover.
sounds a little impossible. just make an account for the market and don't use it for anything else. Only thing i can think of.
Exactly, but he wants remove google's apps too...
He wants a total googleapplicationless Android phone. What a problem !
Thanks guys,
I do not need the market also (for what?, I have the apps I want to use)
Greets
push..no one knows it?
If you do any web browsing on any device even on a pc or iphone google and bing etc will track data about you. You can't use any device online without someone tracking you unless you use a proxy and even then the proxy could still track you.
You can delete or freeze googles apps but browsing will be tracked on any online device so only sure way is switch off wifi and mobile data.
But that defeats the point of a smartphone then.
Dave
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Maybe you should forget mobiles cause anytime you're tracked as soon as you power it on
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a guess, flash a custom rom and dont flash the google apps pack?
ICS, at least stock ICS, has the ability to disable system apps.
Settings -> Apps (under 'Device) -> 'All' tab, click an app, click "Disable". It won't be uninstalled, but it will never run, meaning it cannot connect to the internet or do anything else.
e.coli said:
ICS, at least stock ICS, has the ability to disable system apps.
Settings -> Apps (under 'Device) -> 'All' tab, click an app, click "Disable". It won't be uninstalled, but it will never run, meaning it cannot connect to the internet or do anything else.
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The problem is if he ever uses internet he will still be tracked. If he uses gps his location can also be tracked.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
The problem is if he ever uses internet he will still be tracked. If he uses gps his location can also be tracked.
Dave
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Yeah, it's a very strange request, but he could disable all internet-capable apps, and just use his phone for voice and offline apps?
He could still use GPS though, but not A-GPS. GPS just receives the signal from the satellites, this is why you can still log your position while off the cell network. It's one-way communication, so there's no way to be tracked just by listening to the GPS signal. He could download maps to the phone and use it for navigation that way.
Don't get an Android phone is my advice if you want no connection to Google.
-Sent from my Droid 2-
I agree, why would you use an google operating system, if you don't want to have any connection with google?
Android without the Android market is pretty dull, and even if you would use the amazon appstore (which is officially only working in the US/and maybe CAN) you would be stuck with only a fractal of not up to date apps, since in the amazon app store are alot of old versions flying around.
And please dont believe in the old google creep, who is sitting in front of the "internet" waiting is whole life only to set cookies in your browser. He does not exists!
I don't understand why you would want Android on your mobile device and not want google on it? Thats how smartphones work, if you don't want google on your phone I suggest you get a non smart phone.
Why so much hostility? Isn't the point of Android, and these forums, that it is so customizable? Maybe he doesn't like the new privacy policy.
Anyways, he could disable all Gapps and install Firefox or whatever, which would disconnect most of your connection to Google, but it's hard to avoid it if you want to use the internet at all.
e.coli said:
Why so much hostility? Isn't the point of Android, and these forums, that it is so customizable? Maybe he doesn't like the new privacy policy.
Anyways, he could disable all Gapps and install Firefox or whatever, which would disconnect most of your connection to Google, but it's hard to avoid it if you want to use the internet at all.
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I don't think anyone's been hostile, just surprised maybe as seems op wants no tracking yet to be able to use internet which can't be done except at best through a proxy.
To the op, you can root and uninstall or freeze google apps and browse via a public proxy server if you want to avoid tracking but your carrier and possibly google (the main operating systems all record your gps data inc ios android and wp7, think only wp7 was found collecting that though which is why I say possibly not probably) can still see where you have physically been via cell, gps and wifi logs.
If its just google you wish to avoid another option could be use a firewall or dns blacklist app to stop your device being able to connect to known google internet addresses.
Dave
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miro101 said:
And please dont believe in the old google creep, who is sitting in front of the "internet" waiting is whole life only to set cookies in your browser. He does not exists!
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Actually, he does:
http://www.stateofsearch.com/top-15-of-eric-schmidts-remarkable-quotes/
If you don't know by now that all of the "free" apps aren't really free, you're kidding yourself. How do you think Google makes money? It's primary purpose is collecting information. Private informtaion (even the carriers...search on the term "carrier IQ"). That is the age we live in. The best that can be done is to either throw your phone away or learn how to secure your phone and info in as much as is possible. There are apps that can identify what apps are sending what data and block them from doing so (on rooted phones). Even then, data still gets out. It's a trade-off. For now, it's used for marketting purposes. However, that much data is bound to fall into the hands of some government who will use it to control the masses. It's just too tempting, and it's the nature of humanity. So, I'll limit whatever data exodus I can and accept the trade-off for the rest (until the government {read Anti-Christ} wrests control). The old saying applies: "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you".
I honestly don't get the point in using a smartphone with fears of being 'monitored' or tracked. If you don't want to be tracked, don't use the internet, don't use a cell phone, and live under a rock for the rest of your life. That's the best advice I can offer.

How do I delete Google's Cloud Backups?

So recently I factory reset my Nexus 5 because it was having performance issues,and during my time before resetting it, in the settings, my Nexus 5 data was backed up, as shown in the image below. Now, when I reset my N5 I forgot to uncheck back up my data, so there is an image of my N5 in googles cloud. And when I set up my phone, it asked if I wanted to restore from back up or scratch, and I chose scratch. But the thing is, I don't want the backup saved in the cloud.
So my question is this: How do I delete previous cloud backups?
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Log on to the gmail address on a PC and delete the back up data from there.
Can you be more specific? Where can I find the Cloud backups?
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First, untick those two options from your screenshot. Then you have to log out from your google account on phone and log in again.
deleting nexus backups
i've been trying to delete my nexus backups from the cloud. can't figure out how to. all these tutorials just keep sending you off into a different direction. the replies you get on the forums are usually poor quality. or google figures out a way to store away your information indefinitely.
I too want to know "where" specifically on the Google website I can find the phone backup and delete it.
Does anyone know? Is it even possible?
r7un said:
i've been trying to delete my nexus backups from the cloud. can't figure out how to. all these tutorials just keep sending you off into a different direction. the replies you get on the forums are usually poor quality. or google figures out a way to store away your information indefinitely.
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Anderson2 said:
I too want to know "where" specifically on the Google website I can find the phone backup and delete it.
Does anyone know? Is it even possible?
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http://developer.android.com/tools/help/bmgr.html
Warning!
When backup is disabled, the current backup transport will explicitly wipe the entire active data set from its backend storage. This is so that when a user says they do not want their data backed up, the Backup Manager respects that wish. No further data will be saved from the device, and no restore operations will be possible, unless the Backup Manager is re-enabled (either through Settings or through the above bmgr command).
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It seems that disabling backup deletes all backed up files on the server.
disabling backups does not delete the older backups
when we disable the backup, one may want to assume that no information is being stored on google servers. but what happens really is, no new back up is created, but the older backups remain.
so if you reset your device again, you'll see the older backups reflecting on google's servers. only nothing new has been stored.
i have backups that are ranging from 3-4 months old to last year. i don't want google to store my information, but i cannot figure out a way to remove these.
p.s. thanks for approving my first post. have been a smartphone user since xda days. hopefully looking to learn and contribute here.
r7un said:
when we disable the backup, one may want to assume that no information is being stored on google servers. but what happens really is, no new back up is created, but the older backups remain.
so if you reset your device again, you'll see the older backups reflecting on google's servers. only nothing new has been stored.
i have backups that are ranging from 3-4 months old to last year. i don't want google to store my information, but i cannot figure out a way to remove these.
p.s. thanks for approving my first post. have been a smartphone user since xda days. hopefully looking to learn and contribute here.
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I didn't find anything else I would also be interested to have a solution.
USE Google Dashboard
Click on Android
Scroll to: Delete backup data
please give detailed instructions
Celestial Fury said:
USE Google Dashboard
Click on Android
Scroll to: Delete backup data
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Dear Celestial Fury
The screenshot you've provided seems very dated. If I use Google Dashboard from the link you have provided, it lists out 2 android devices, while I have only one. Then, if I click on Manage Android Devices, I am unable to view the location of my Nexus, like one can do on the Find my iPhone Application, and there are options to erase the device and lock it. But there is no option to manage the backups and delete them.
Sorry to say, but a reply like yours has earlier as well sent me on a wild goose chase. Google has changed the way we approach the dashboard, I believe.
Dear @r7un,
You don't see this part in your Google Dashboard - all on the same page after signing in and clicking on Android?
If by dated screenshot you mean logged in to Google Dashboard and taken JUST BEFORE I posted?
Detailed instructions then:
Sign in to Google Dashboard
Click on Android NOT Manage Active Devices (It'll show you all the devices you have. You may have more than one listing if you're using XPrivacy to randomize your IMEI. A different IMEI counts as a different device. This thread is about deleting android backup. If you can't see location then perhaps your phone is blocking location permissions or your browser is or Google location is not working or slow.)
Scroll to the last device listed and you'll see Delete backup data.
By clicking the button you will permanently delete backup data of the account '[email protected]'. Please note that new backup data will be created if backup is enabled on any of your Android devices.
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@Celestial Fury Do you have 'backup my data' enabled on your device?
Because it seems that we do not have the same dashboard. I have neither 'NOT Manage Active Devices' nor 'Delete backup data'. Clicking of 'Manage active devices' redirects me to the android device manager.
@Primokorn, yes I have 'backup my data' enabled on my device and I'm using it. And no, I'm not going to try clicking delete backup data to see if it actually works (in case someone decides to ask me that) .
Step 2 is click on the WORD "Android" and NOT manage active device.
Do note, this is the first time I'm using Google Dashboard after trying to find a solution for this thread so it's not that hard for any first time user to Google Dashboard.
Celestial Fury said:
@Primokorn, yes I have 'backup my data' enabled on my device and I'm using it. And no, I'm not going to try clicking delete backup data to see if it actually works (in case someone decides to ask me that) .
Step 2 is click on the WORD "Android" and NOT manage active device.
Do note, this is the first time I'm using Google Dashboard after trying to find a solution for this thread so it's not that hard for any first time user to Google Dashboard.
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I don't see your picture.
Anyway I do understand your steps to reproduce but I can't
Finally, those cloud backups are correctly deleted if we disable the backup option. I'll try during my next clean flash.
@Primokorn, you're nearly there. I see you've clicked on "Android". So, scroll DOWN to the last of your devices listed and post a screenshot of what you see there.
there is no link that says delete backups
i am attaching a screenshot. i hope you're able to see that. but i am afraid there is no link that says remove or delete backups when i click on the android button. really apologetic. i also tried to enable the backup on my phone and run through the steps you've detailed, but its really not working.
it really seems that google is not interested in allowing people to delete their backups.
@r7un, scroll down and post what you see.
there is no button, posting again
Celestial Fury said:
@r7un, scroll down and post what you see.
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Dear Celestial Fury, please don't get angry. Like I said earlier, there is no button that says "Delete backup". All it gives are the details of the devices. That's it. Nothing is clickable out there. I am posting another screenshot to try and communicate what I am saying. Maybe there is a policy difference region to region. I feel if you're having the link and I am not, it's discriminating.
Celestial Fury said:
@Primokorn, you're nearly there. I see you've clicked on "Android". So, scroll DOWN to the last of your devices listed and post a screenshot of what you see there.
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Nothing as already explained

Full app-data transfer or backup

I know this is a tired topic, and it seems without legit root + TB that it really isn't doable...still, I'm very curious if there are strides made that maybe I'm not aware of. All of my searches, regardless of device, seem to be more or less the same; you can get a good chunk between apps like Helium, SmartSwitch, and ADB backups, but none of those will be all-inclusive or really even close to that.
For those seasoned in this, is this just the status-quo at this point? Devs, is it safe to assume that without root, one simply cannot backup app data verbatim?
I ask for the obvious reason: I don't necessarily recall every user ID and password, all settings, etc that I set up for a given app. Especially with the introduction of finerprint readers. I seldom have to type in passwords anymore, between saved credentials in Chrome and established logins on individual apps.
I'm really hoping it isn't a far stretch to find a way to transfer, if not backup this data completely.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
Works on majority of apps, make sure its set to app data only, otherwise it won't backup. If it nags about some desktop password remove pin/pattern or any other screen locks.
If you want to backup sms/mms/call logs use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup
peachpuff said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
Works on majority of apps, make sure its set to app data only, otherwise it won't backup. If it nags about some desktop password remove pin/pattern or any other screen locks.
If you want to backup sms/mms/call logs use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup
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I've used Helium in the past, and it wasn't all-inclusive. If I do app-data only, will it backup app data that includes login info and whatever settings I've configured per app?
You really don't have much choice, this is the only app that can backup data, you can try smart switch but I didn't have much luck with it. Just try it and hope for the best.
disturbd1 said:
I know this is a tired topic, and it seems without legit root + TB that it really isn't doable...still, I'm very curious if there are strides made that maybe I'm not aware of. All of my searches, regardless of device, seem to be more or less the same; you can get a good chunk between apps like Helium, SmartSwitch, and ADB backups, but none of those will be all-inclusive or really even close to that.
For those seasoned in this, is this just the status-quo at this point? Devs, is it safe to assume that without root, one simply cannot backup app data verbatim?
I ask for the obvious reason: I don't necessarily recall every user ID and password, all settings, etc that I set up for a given app. Especially with the introduction of finerprint readers. I seldom have to type in passwords anymore, between saved credentials in Chrome and established logins on individual apps.
I'm really hoping it isn't a far stretch to find a way to transfer, if not backup this data completely.
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Are you coming from a non samsung phone? When I had to return my 1st Note 7 I backed it up to the samsung cloud and when I received the 2nd Note 7 I restored from the cloud and it did the screens, apps, data and everything. I was surprised and also happy with it.
I currently have the S7 Edge. Samsung cloud is enabled on it. I sincerely can't be the only one who is looking for this ability without root though.
Im also searching, but for per app as helium doesnt work for me
ggrant3876 said:
Are you coming from a non samsung phone? When I had to return my 1st Note 7 I backed it up to the samsung cloud and when I received the 2nd Note 7 I restored from the cloud and it did the screens, apps, data and everything. I was surprised and also happy with it.
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Sir when you did this did you have to login each app again or it was automatically logged in with your details please
iamviveksri said:
Sir when you did this did you have to login each app again or it was automatically logged in with your details please
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I can't remember as it's been well over a year. If you have Samsung Pass on your phone and you back it up I would think it would log you in to your individual apps.

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