So, TiBu is great and everything, but is a real pain in the butt sometimes because it just restores all the files directly which can cause compatibility issues.
Is there an app out there there backs up data and later re-injects settings, so to speak, into the existing system, to avoid incompatibility?
For an example of what I'm talk about, ex WinMo users can observe PIM Backup, how it injected messages and contacts into the new system database.
I realize this can be lengthy, but worth it in my opinion if possible.
Any ideas?
Regards
Smith
I recently used TiBu, but I long pursed my apis and chose "view in market" then installed directly from the market (took longer but avoids the compatibility/corruption issues), then chose to install data only for each app.
Hope this helps ya......
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I used this http://global.mobileaction.com/product/product_AM.jsp It seems to work pretty good as long as you have a wireless network at home.
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Ok, I have MyBackup PRO now and it works GREAT, it backups my installed .apk and Market apps and also backups all my settings and messages etc. Only thing that it does not do is Market links and settings in installed apps, but I havent tried it since I rooted my phone yesterday. So, can someone tell me which one is better and why ? I see that most of the people say that Titanium is No.1 but only thing that it has and it is GREAT feature is ability to uninstall default apps with root but MyBackup has much nicer interface. So, bottom line, which app will be better in restoring when we need it, after flashing new ROM, so which will get the phone in exactly same state as before flashing, like nothing happened ?
So please, some comments, I think that it will help a lot of people
Cheers
Well titanium is good for uninstalling apps that ya dont need but don't let that fool ya as titanium has the ability to backup data aswel which allows you to restore ya app back to its usual self with customisations! amongst other things such as settings, wallpapers, wifi, etc...
but to be honest its wrong to compare them both because they kind of do different things, although my backup does a good job of restoring contacts, apps, messages and more!
I think whoever has both, won't have too much to worry about!!
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Even though Titanium Backup is voted #1 backup for rooted phones, i have not had any luck with it restoring my data or apps... i get the odd force close during restore and once it apparantly restored my contacts but they were never there
Dont get me wrong Titanium Backup is way above the rest when it comes to backing up your data/links/settings pretty much everything (when it works in my case), however i stuck with My Backup Pro as it does exactly what i want... restore my data lol...
Just my 2cence..
Till now MyBackup PRO has done backup/restore of all apps, settings, shortcuts and phonebook flawlessly ! Things that it didnt do is restored wallpaper, widgets AND market links, that is it. And that was with non rooted phone, didnt tried it now with that feature since it says that it restores EVERYTHING including marktet links. So if, that widget - market stuff is working then it cannot be better than this, so Titanium can be the same. Or it does something even better ?
And I dont think that is wrong to compare these two since they both have Backup in their name and that is their purpose, to backup our phones. Only thing that matters is which is better in doing that ? And I think that is stupid to have both apps if we dont have to, or even if you are sure of that, what app should we use for what ?
I use Titanium backup and it fulfills all my needs ..
Titanium backup looks geeky too. I like it that way .. lolz
And that is why I dont like it Does it restore the phone completely, like nothing happened after you flash new firmware ? I like MyBackup PRO a lot but only thing that I am missing is ability to uninstall default apps from ROMs...can I remove E-Mail, Wisepilot and Voice dialer with no problems ? Also, I am using ADW, it eats my memory, can I turn off default launcher to save some RAM ?
Cheers
You can remove voice dialer, wisepilot, email and more without a problem I think.
I mean I got rid of them, plus quadropop, track id, playnow, mediascape, messaging (seen as I use chompsms), alarm clock (seen as I use kaloer clock) and many more.
also if your on bout removing the default se launcher and only keeping adw then ye you can.
just be careful of certain apps such as timescape and google stuff.. usually linked to other stuff such as phonebook or market.. best not touching them (yet).. also calendar I think!!
Hope it helps!!
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Yep, it is better now wothout those apps. Someone should make complete list of apps that can be removed since this is not on that list in root thread.
Tnx
Not sure if it was a network thing or related to maybe removing my messaging app but I used to miss quite a few texts from friends/family :-s different timings an all!
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MyBackup Root
MyBackup has just released a special root version for the root community for free..
batch backup/restore, scheduler, backup data to move between roms or different OS versions
ex: backup contacts from 1.x and restore on 2.x
it does most of the the pro version does except there is no online and one device support.
I use my backup root and it always does its job to recover apps and their data after flashing new ROM!
Does my backup back up desktop. Is there a way to restore a desktop instead of manually positioning the apps
Titanium Backup rulez men! It's the best backup app, undoubt.
trikotret said:
Does my backup back up desktop. Is there a way to restore a desktop instead of manually positioning the apps
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Using MyBackup PRO restores the desktop - at least in the attempts I have performed
damirbusic said:
Ok, I have MyBackup PRO now and it works GREAT, it backups my installed .apk and Market apps and also backups all my settings and messages etc. Only thing that it does not do is Market links and settings in installed apps, but I havent tried it since I rooted my phone yesterday. So, can someone tell me which one is better and why ? I see that most of the people say that Titanium is No.1 but only thing that it has and it is GREAT feature is ability to uninstall default apps with root but MyBackup has much nicer interface. So, bottom line, which app will be better in restoring when we need it, after flashing new ROM, so which will get the phone in exactly same state as before flashing, like nothing happened ?
So please, some comments, I think that it will help a lot of people
Cheers
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I like MyBackup Root and prefer it over Ti Backup....although now that I have TBP I'm gonna give it a shot next time I got to flash a rom
Titanium backup pro is a million times better.
I had some issues with mybackup..
IMO there is no comparison
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MyBackup has just released a special root version for the root community for free...
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I think root version is a limited version?? in description "Will work on 1 device.
" does it mean one device per account/ Or you can use your saved data on 1 device?
scoobysnacks said:
Titanium backup pro is a million times better.
I had some issues with mybackup..
IMO there is no comparison
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Had some issues too and decided to switch to Titanium, which has so many options:: Freezing app, multiple saves par app.. automatic/schedulde..
And the dev is realy responding to user recommandation.
Out of subject: I'm very dissapointed that some app on the market never get updated (i mean real update and not bug fixes) since so LONG and gain profit only because they are in top paid app.. For example Root Explorer 206ko of line of code/ never updated / Poor UI/.. and all of this for 3€.. ... I wish I had skills to developp a concurent app.
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I think root version is a limited version?? in description "Will work on 1 device.
" does it mean one device per account/ Or you can use your saved data on 1 device?
Had some issues too and decided to switch to Titanium, which has so many options:: Freezing app, multiple saves par app.. automatic/schedulde..
And the dev is realy responding to user recommandation.
Out of subject: I'm very dissapointed that some app on the market never get updated (i mean real update and not bug fixes) since so LONG and gain profit only because they are in top paid app.. For example Root Explorer 206ko of line of code/ never updated / Poor UI/.. and all of this for 3€.. ... I wish I had skills to developp a concurent app.
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Failing that, the,only thing root explorer has going for it is the change rw permissions button. There are dozens of better file explorers that lack this one feature.
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Does my backup pro/root uninstall system apps??
And tatnium backup doesnt backup contacts and sms...
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Only problem I have is that after I backed up on Back up pro like I always do & works fine, That it will not find the files, Would not restore for that reason, Im not to happy with the FROYO 2.2 thing, other than that it works good & fast.
Can some one help me on how to restore after the update
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I had the same issue....Back Up Pro could not find the apps. But I chalked it up to a different ROM. and reinstalled my apps the old fashioned way. I have since learned to list ny Apps so when I find the paid ones they will install.
So Im really worried about the data ? How can I get that, Is there another back up app better ? thats whats bothering me.
Use Titanium Backup. It now works with Froyo on the Captivate. Another option, for apps only, is to get an Appbrain account and sync your apps with Appbrain. That way, if the worst happens at least you can reinstall from there, but you won't have the data.
mobius911 said:
Use Titanium Backup. It now works with Froyo on the Captivate. Another option, for apps only, is to get an Appbrain account and sync your apps with Appbrain. That way, if the worst happens at least you can reinstall from there, but you won't have the data.
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AppBrain has been brilliant for app restores for me. That is one thing I always hated about flashing roms/doing resets, and although you still have to click through the permissions, it works great. The fast web installer is awesome too...
yeah i just use appbrain
Titanium Backup is Better
TB (Titanium Backup) is better to use because it can restore not just the app, but the data and settings as well. All AB (Appbrain) does is perform a reinstall of the app minus any data you may have created with the app.
A good example would be your email app. With TB you would get back all your email configuration and settings. While with AB, you would have to go through the process of setting up your email account info all over again as well as any other config settings.
If you use LauncherPro, you know how tedious it is to set it up just the way you like. Use TB and you get it back just the way you left it without having to go through the lengthy customization process.
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TB (Titanium Backup) is better to use because it can restore not just the app, but the data and settings as well. All AB (Appbrain) does is perform a reinstall of the app minus any data you may have created with the app.
A good example would be your email app. With TB you would get back all your email configuration and settings. While with AB, you would have to go through the process of setting up your email account info all over again as well as any other config settings.
If you use LauncherPro, you know how tedious it is to set it up just the way you like. Use TB and you get it back just the way you left it without having to go through the lengthy customization process.
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Restore apps only. Do not restore data or it could cause incompatibility and fc's.
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Restore apps only. Do not restore data or it could cause incompatibility and fc's.
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Chainfire (edit) Darkstriker told me the same in i9000 faq thread. He seemed to think it's discussed everywhere and obvious. Well I've read through at least a couple of the most recent active threads on the topic, and certainly it is not posted everywhere and is not obvious.
Can you point to a thread detailing specific instances of problems? All the problems I've read about are with SYSTEM DATA... widegets and SMS mostly. I have not found anyone mentioning problems with normal app data.
edit: and BTW three apps failing out of a couple of hundred is a big so what.. so long as un-install and re-install of those apps fix it without messing up the whole system. I thought it's pretty hard for a single app to do too much damage to the whole system in android.
I just wiped my TF101 more or less voluntarily... I have witnessed before that in Google market only my PAID apps seem to be restored automatically; is there any way to also get the free apps at least listed? I always forget which apps I had installed
Thanks everyone! Even a pointer to other threads is appreciated since I couldn't find anything.
:cheers:
EDIT: It is especially annoying for programs like ROM Manager and Documents To Go where the free version is required before the (paid) key can be used
Well if you use Titanium backup you can backup all your apps so when you wipe your device you can restore them all quickly and easily.
I dont use Google to backup my apps, much easier to use Titanium.
One other app that is really good is Mybackup you can backup your apps that way as well along with many other features but most are really designed for a phone.
Hope that helps
Ultraman666 said:
Well if you use Titanium backup you can backup all your apps so when you wipe your device you can restore them all quickly and easily.
I dont use Google to backup my apps, much easier to use Titanium.
One other app that is really good is Mybackup you can backup your apps that way as well along with many other features but most are really designed for a phone.
Hope that helps
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Yeah, I know. I have Ti Backup but as I stated in my post I wiped more or less voluntarily... That's why I was wondering if there is some kind of Google magic that can be used as a backup-backup So basically it was my fault to not make a Ti Backup first. Luckily, I don't have any important data on the TF!
For me it restores all my downloaded apps automatically by default, weird.
if you log onto market. android.com go under my market account and that lists everyapp you ever downloaded.
seshmaru said:
For me it restores all my downloaded apps automatically by default, weird.
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Same for me.
tonyz3 said:
if you log onto market. android.com go under my market account and that lists everyapp you ever downloaded.
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I'll check that out, thanks!
I also found an app called AppBrain App Market which apparently also stores the installed app information and can be used to sync with any given device. It's got really good reviews and is free
EDIT: I think I know what might be the reason that I do not get the free apps. When I click on the apps in market.google.com they show up as "installed" although they are not! Either I am missing a setting or it's a bug in the system!
Well, not quite, but saved me a lot of aggravation! I know most people know this, but I thought I'd share. I had serious issues with a certain app from the market. After a few attempts and a reboot all my apps and system services were FC'ing. I rebooted several times, and the same happened. I could do nothing.
I researched, and others said you need a factory reset, so I girded my loins and did the deed.
By great fortune I had only recently cleared a couple of GB on my external SD and backed up the entire system with Titanium Backup. I could then easily not only restore the apps, but all the data, relieving me from the need to reconfigure several dozen critical apps. I even had my bluetooth and wireless settings restored.
Cannot praise it enough, just coughed up for the pro version to back up using dropbox too. That way, if my Note should ever get purloined, I can buy another one and restore at will.
TB, Superuser, CWM, Autostarts, SetDNS, Cerberus, all these are indispensable apps on an Android machine
Word!
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+1, I agree too..
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Completely agree! Ever since I converted from Symbian to Android, I could not resist myself with the amount of "playing around" that is possible, and hence the need to wipe all your data.
Over the weekend I used the TB at least 5-6 times and every time it worked flawlessly.
Other uses include- Market application which is a sore point for many custom ROMS, I could solve the issue by just toggling it to user app, uninstalling, installing the newer version and making it a sys app again. As simple as that!
jeremy.chan said:
TB, Superuser, CWM, Autostarts, SetDNS, Cerberus, all these are indispensable apps on an Android machine
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... and DroidWall. I feel naked without it!
TB was the first ever app i paid for. Pro version was not even avaible through android market for my country by that time so i had to donate to his paypal account. It is one of the essential apps on android and it is the biggest reason i root my phone even tho i prefer to use stock roms.
I've always used Titanium Backup to completely back up all of my apps just before wiping, resetting, and installing a new ROM, then restoring. Someone told me that in essence, the Google app store does the same thing, so long as your phone is set to back up your apps. If this is the case, which process does everyone here prefer?
I still use tibu. Google is unreliable. You can't force it to restore.
hartford said:
I've always used Titanium Backup to completely back up all of my apps just before wiping, resetting, and installing a new ROM, then restoring. Someone told me that in essence, the Google app store does the same thing, so long as your phone is set to back up your apps. If this is the case, which process does everyone here prefer?
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Not exactly the same. The Play Store will restore your apps without data. In essence, it just redownloads all your apps so you don't have to. TiBu will store data as well. Also, TiBu will backup and restore any app that you installed from outside the Play Store (like Swiftkey 3 Beta or the Amazon App Store) and restore apps much faster (since they are already downloaded, all it has to do is batch install them).
TiBu has a plethora of features too like automatic backups and syncing and such. However, restoring your apps with data may cause some headaches sometimes. For instance, restoring Friendcaster Pro with data after doing a wipe will break push notifications until I remove my Facebook account and re-login. Though restoring data to something like Tasker is freaking great since I don't have to go through the hassle of setting up all my profiles again.
Thank you very much for confirming my thoughts. I'm a long-time Titanium Backup user, and I don't doubt that sometimes the app store restoration process can be unreliable. I shall continue with what I know works, and works well!