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The HTC One X has 16GB of storage total, but only about 2GB can be used for apps. I don't get it, its all internal memory, why separate it like that? Or is it just similar to my current Android phone where i have 2 separate storage areas, a small amount of phone memory, and SD Card. Should i think of the One X as having phone memory and a built in SD card so to speak. Because on my current phone i can move some apps from phone memory to SD card in Android Settings based off how they work, and some need to stay on the phone. Would this be a similar way that it may work on the One X?
schnirf said:
The HTC One X has 16GB of storage total, but only about 2GB can be used for apps. I don't get it, its all internal memory, why separate it like that? Or is it just similar to my current Android phone where i have 2 separate storage areas, a small amount of phone memory, and SD Card. Should i think of the One X as having phone memory and a built in SD card so to speak. Because on my current phone i can move some apps from phone memory to SD card in Android Settings based off how they work, and some need to stay on the phone. Would this be a similar way that it may work on the One X?
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the 10gb partition is basically an sdcard yes. 2gb of app storage is actually a lot. if an app needs extra data, it's saved to the internal memory (10gb).
That's the typical configuration for almost all Android phones. You have system partition where the kernel/OS/system resides. You have app paritition where all apps install to. Then you have the SDcard type storage area where all user/app data stores to.
2GB app partition is quite large. You can also install app to SDcard if you use up all the 2GB space.
schnirf said:
The HTC One X has 16GB of storage total, but only about 2GB can be used for apps. I don't get it, its all internal memory, why separate it like that? Or is it just similar to my current Android phone where i have 2 separate storage areas, a small amount of phone memory, and SD Card. Should i think of the One X as having phone memory and a built in SD card so to speak. Because on my current phone i can move some apps from phone memory to SD card in Android Settings based off how they work, and some need to stay on the phone. Would this be a similar way that it may work on the One X?
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This has been covered before, but the reason HTC went this route is to have usb mass storage mode. With one big partion, such as I have on my gtab 10.1 mtp is used, usb mass storage is not an option.
And yes, moving apps to sd works, even large games where most of the data is downloaded afterwords, that data goes to your "sd". In short, the 2gb app partion is plenty.
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really?
don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but really, is 2gb enough? i'm on a t-mobile mytouch 4g slide and i might be leaving t-mobile to come to at&t and get the htc one x, but one of my biggest complaints is the storage space. i'm CONSTANTLY having to delete apps to stay above 200mb free (and i have no music on my phone and all pics are on the sd card). right now i have 102 apps/games installed. i find that if i start moving apps/games to sd i start having phone issues (and i know not to move apps that have widgets, but even still, just installing games and stuff still tends to cause freezes and force closes). now the only reason i might be able to trust you guys and take the leap of faith here with the 2gb is that i'm running android 2.3 here... i know that android 4.0 is a totally different beast and things just run amazingly better to begin with (especially with the added hardware of the one x)... so maybe i really don't need to worry about moving some of my bigger games like plants vs zombies and peggle (thats like 150mb right there on the phone storage alone) to sd on this android 4.0 device...
SO... anyone wanna help me feel a little better about this and give me some more assurance that everything is just gonna be ok haha.
thanks
One major difference here is that your T-Mo MyTouch 4G Slide needs to use the slower microSD card for SD storage. Due to the speed difference and general unreliable performance of external SD storage, it could cause issues for apps stored on those external SD cards.
For HOX, there is no external SD card involved. The 10 GB or so storage you can use is from the same NAND chip that is used by the internal 2GB app storage. So, there shouldn't be any problem for moving apps to that storage.
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One major difference here is that your T-Mo MyTouch 4G Slide needs to use the slower microSD card for SD storage. Due to the speed difference and general unreliable performance of external SD storage, it could cause issues for apps stored on those external SD cards.
For HOX, there is no external SD card involved. The 10 GB or so storage you can use is from the same NAND chip that is used by the internal 2GB app storage. So, there shouldn't be any problem for moving apps to that storage.
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interesting. sounds pretty reasonable. i don't really store any music on my phone other than a few spotify offline playlists, and no movies, so the space would be totally pictures, apps and games... so if what you're saying is true, i guess i shouldn't really worry about the 2gb... gonna go play with one in a store tomorrow to make sure i'll be happy jumping from 3.7 to 4.7" but i think this might be a done deal for me ...
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That's the typical configuration for almost all Android phones. You have system partition where the kernel/OS/system resides. You have app paritition where all apps install to. Then you have the SDcard type storage area where all user/app data stores to.
2GB app partition is quite large. You can also install app to SDcard if you use up all the 2GB space.
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No it is not the typical configuration for all Android phones, not after ICS. After ICS I think HTC is the only one who insist on sticking to it. Even though MTP have its pro and cons, I think sticking to the old 2 GB partition has more Cons than Pros.
And while 2GB is enough for many users, for many others, it is NOT enough. FYI not all apps can be moved to SDcard and right now I have almost 4 GB on apps on my tablet. So for a heavy user, 2GB space is both restrictive AND unnecessary.
This is a stupid decision by HTC that has stopped me from buying their phone since HTC desire HD (which gave me such an headache due to this restriction)
Also consider the exponential growth in the file size of the apps. A few years ago, you will have hard pressed to find an apps that is more than 100 MB, now some apps even approaches 0.5 GB to 1GB size. Enough? Hardly.
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don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but really, is 2gb enough? i'm on a t-mobile mytouch 4g slide and i might be leaving t-mobile to come to at&t and get the htc one x, but one of my biggest complaints is the storage space. i'm CONSTANTLY having to delete apps to stay above 200mb free (and i have no music on my phone and all pics are on the sd card). right now i have 102 apps/games installed. i find that if i start moving apps/games to sd i start having phone issues (and i know not to move apps that have widgets, but even still, just installing games and stuff still tends to cause freezes and force closes). now the only reason i might be able to trust you guys and take the leap of faith here with the 2gb is that i'm running android 2.3 here... i know that android 4.0 is a totally different beast and things just run amazingly better to begin with (especially with the added hardware of the one x)... so maybe i really don't need to worry about moving some of my bigger games like plants vs zombies and peggle (thats like 150mb right there on the phone storage alone) to sd on this android 4.0 device...
SO... anyone wanna help me feel a little better about this and give me some more assurance that everything is just gonna be ok haha.
thanks
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Of those 102 apps/games, name 51 of them without looking lol.
Why is this here?
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Hay everybody, tomorrow i get HTC One S and i want to play GTA 3 on it. now, the problem is that on every site writes i have to place data on SD card, but HTC One S doesn't have SD card slot. now where i must put game data to play that amazing game? please answer fast
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Don't worry it'll work, think of it as having an non replaceable sdcard. 10GB of storage is mounted in /sdcard so to apps and users it seems just like say a HTC desire or what have you.
It installs fine.
I get static (GTA3 not so bad), and it seems quite a few have the same problem (skype does this too).
Both games run good, just the sound.
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Just a quick question before I buy my Note 10.1..
I would want to have the 32GB version, but it's really hard to find around here while the 16GBG is available everywhere.. If I buy the 16GB and pop a 64GB SD card in it, can I use this for apps and all, specially the bigger games and such?
Hilari0 said:
Just a quick question before I buy my Note 10.1..
I would want to have the 32GB version, but it's really hard to find around here while the 16GBG is available everywhere.. If I buy the 16GB and pop a 64GB SD card in it, can I use this for apps and all, specially the bigger games and such?
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Well, it depends on the game. Most games which data file is downloaded by Google Play would be saved in your SDCARD partition. The same goes to most games which download its files upon first start up. So far, I only see Gameloft's Modern Combat 3 and Nova 3 downloaded their data files into EXTERNAL_SD\Android\Data. However newer Gameloft's games now used OBB files, which are saved in SDCARD\Android\OBB.
You could however root your device and write a script to bind folders from your external sd into sdcard, or use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857070.
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Well, it depends on the game. Most games which data file is downloaded by Google Play would be saved in your SDCARD partition. The same goes to most games which download its files upon first start up. So far, I only see Gameloft's Modern Combat 3 and Nova 3 downloaded their data files into EXTERNAL_SD\Android\Data. However newer Gameloft's games now used OBB files, which are saved in SDCARD\Android\OBB.
You could however root your device and write a script to bind folders from your external sd into sdcard, or use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857070.
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Ok, thanks. It looks like I'll be forced to get the 16 GB if I want to avoid ordering it. Local stores dont have the 32GB. Is it possible to remap the sd card so the internal is on external_sd and the external is on sdcard? Or would that break stuff?
there is a app called bind directory that is very easy to use and will move the obb files to a directory on your external card. This i used on the nexus 7 before i sent it back because of Very poor build quality... Just get a class 10 name brand sd card.. some games will not run off the slower or generic cards.. Mine is a Patriot card.
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there is a app called bind directory that is very easy to use and will move the obb files to a directory on your external card. This i used on the nexus 7 before i sent it back because of Very poor build quality... Just get a class 10 name brand sd card.. some games will not run off the slower or generic cards.. Mine is a Patriot card.
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+1 I currently use Directory Bind, 16gb Note + 32gb sd card. Have mapped app data folders to external storage, so internal storge is barely used. You will need root though.
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Thanks! I don't mind rooting the Note and Directory Bind sounds like it would do exactly what I want to do.. I assume Directory Bind would work fine with 64 GB cards as well? I've seen people having success in inserting 64 GB SD cards in the Note.. Planning to use Sandisk SD card.. I only trust Sandisk and Kingston on SD cards.
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Thanks! I don't mind rooting the Note and Directory Bind sounds like it would do exactly what I want to do.. I assume Directory Bind would work fine with 64 GB cards as well? I've seen people having success in inserting 64 GB SD cards in the Note.. Planning to use Sandisk SD card.. I only trust Sandisk and Kingston on SD cards.
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64 gb card should be fine. I'm planning on buying 64 gb card myself soon, with all the large games I have purchased room is getting a little crowded on the 32 gb card I have.
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The 32GB tablet is a gigantic price gouge, considering a 16GB MicroSD only costs around $15.
I don't think I could respect myself if I paid an extra $120 or whatever for it.
That said, apps and games that store data on your "SD card" will be using the internal storage, not your actual MicroSD card. In some apps you can configure the location for saving data however.
The bulk of my storage is actually videos and music, which of course there's no problem having on the external MicroSD card. That's just me though.
the title says it all, I'm very very set on the Sensation XE because 1 I think in my opinion its the best looking phone I have seen period, at least until the ONE X+ comes out which looks very similar and plus it will cost 3x more and 2 I adore the Sense UI especially 3.5 and upwards
Coming from a Original HTC Desire used with lots of different custom roms etc
In any case just noticed it had 4gb memory but only 1gb user available? why is that? and have the developers found a way to over come that e.g. different hboot etc
and if not is 1gb internal memory enough for all the high quality 3d games n apps etc?
just wanted to get an overview of the memory customizations etc
1gb is more than enough...about 100 apps can be installed
1gb is great, in most cases this 3d games have a small apk and they download the game files to your sd card.
I highly suggest you buy a high capacity sd or use the 8gb one if you don't think it'll run out of space what with all the awesome 1080p video
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For phones like the S3, you can get them with up to 64 GB internal phone storage, what's the point?
You can't transfer your songs or movies from your SD card to your phone, so that means the internal memory can only store apps, and who has 64 GB of apps?
Isn't 1GB big enough for all your apps?
Or am I missing something here?
... I have over 1Gb of apps and I don't even have any particularly big ones on there... and I didn't think I had many, either. I have been considering a nearly 1Gb game app for my tablet, and I'm sure some people have mental fortitude to play such games on their phones (I like the bigger screen, can't concentrate on the phone sized screen for really detailed games).
Why couldn't you put music and movies on the internal storage ? Kies will try to put music on internal by default - I actually had to move to the external SD after transferring because I didn't realise that. I'm sure I could do the file transfer in the opposite direction as well and cut and paste from external to internal.
I think ur misunderstood by 64GB in S3...its Internal USB storage (in-built memory card) not phone memory.
I have a 32GB Galaxy S2 model..it doesn't mean that it has 32GB phone memory..lol
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#YOLO said:
For phones like the S3, you can get them with up to 64 GB internal phone storage, what's the point?
You can't transfer your songs or movies from your SD card to your phone, so that means the internal memory can only store apps, and who has 64 GB of apps?
Isn't 1GB big enough for all your apps?
Or am I missing something here?
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This is internal but accessable as storage space for films etc.
On many new devices (like nexus4/7/10) everything is kept on one partition so the internal memory is for apps and files
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Pennycake said:
... I have over 1Gb of apps and I don't even have any particularly big ones on there... and I didn't think I had many, either. I have been considering a nearly 1Gb game app for my tablet, and I'm sure some people have mental fortitude to play such games on their phones (I like the bigger screen, can't concentrate on the phone sized screen for really detailed games).
Why couldn't you put music and movies on the internal storage ? Kies will try to put music on internal by default - I actually had to move to the external SD after transferring because I didn't realise that. I'm sure I could do the file transfer in the opposite direction as well and cut and paste from external to internal.
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Wait, so you're saying that I can transfer files from my computer/sd card to the internal storage?
How?
DD-Ripper said:
I think ur misunderstood by 64GB in S3...its Internal USB storage (in-built memory card) not phone memory.
I have a 32GB Galaxy S2 model..it doesn't mean that it has 32GB phone memory..lol
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Yeah, I meant internal storage, as in space, and not RAM, if that's what you mean.
Unless you're saying there's the internal storage + internal sd card + external sd card?
You can drag and drop or use Kies/Kies Air or any other such program. I mean, they're not going to mandate you buy an external SD card in order to store media, that would be silly.
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Wait, so you're saying that I can transfer files from my computer/sd card to the internal storage?
How?
Yeah, I meant internal storage, as in space, and not RAM, if that's what you mean.
Unless you're saying there's the internal storage + internal sd card + external sd card?
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Yes ..there is:
- Phone memory : 2GB
-Internal memory Card : 32GB
-External Memory Card : 8GB
On my galaxy s2...
That's what I mean..
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You can drag and drop or use Kies/Kies Air or any other such program. I mean, they're not going to mandate you buy an external SD card in order to store media, that would be silly.
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I've installed Kies, and it does exactly what Windows Explorer can do. It syncs, backups etc. files on your SD CARD, I can't find any option to browse my PHONE STORAGE, like you said it could.
DD-Ripper said:
Yes ..there is:
- Phone memory : 2GB
-Internal memory Card : 32GB
-External Memory Card : 8GB
On my galaxy s2...
That's what I mean..
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So which one is the one you can buy in stores?
Where's the internal memory card located?
I've got a Galaxy Ace.
Galaxy ace doesn't have it.
Models like Galaxy s, S advance, S duos, S2, S3, Note...and others have it inbuilt.
You can't remove nor expand the internal SD card.
There is a slot for external card too like in galaxy ace....external SD cards are available for sales everywhere.
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#YOLO said:
For phones like the S3, you can get them with up to 64 GB internal phone storage, what's the point?
You can't transfer your songs or movies from your SD card to your phone, so that means the internal memory can only store apps, and who has 64 GB of apps?
Isn't 1GB big enough for all your apps?
Or am I missing something here?
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SD CARDS ARE NOT GOOD!
having internal storage is much better then having SD storage, reason being is the phones processor has process stuff much quicker if its on the internal memory. When stuff is stored on an SD card the access time is always greater. Also theat is not true you can store your mvoies videos and pictures on the interal memory.(I have an S3 and i know this works)
DD-Ripper said:
Galaxy ace doesn't have it.
Models like Galaxy s, S advance, S duos, S2, S3, Note...and others have it inbuilt.
You can't remove nor expand the internal SD card.
There is a slot for external card too like in galaxy ace....external SD cards are available for sales everywhere.
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I see.
So you can transfer files from your computer to your internal or external sd card, or from your internal card to external card or vice versa, but you can't transfer to your phone memory?
TheDroidKid said:
SD CARDS ARE NOT GOOD!
having internal storage is much better then having SD storage, reason being is the phones processor has process stuff much quicker if its on the internal memory. When stuff is stored on an SD card the access time is always greater. Also theat is not true you can store your mvoies videos and pictures on the interal memory.(I have an S3 and i know this works)
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Galaxy Ace has 158 MB internal storage, so I have to use my SD card.
How do I store movies/songs on my internal storage?
#YOLO said:
I see.
So you can transfer files from your computer to your internal or external sd card, or from your internal card to external card or vice versa, but you can't transfer to your phone memory?
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Yup..u got it right.
U can't transfer to internal memory (phone memory) but u can transfer to Internal Storage (inbuilt SD card) and External storage.
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I don't know how they wire these phones up, but I can tell you that the storage memory that is actually inbuilt to the phone will be faster than anything you plug in. SD Cards usually take more time for transfers/reads than internal memory. Hence, people go for more internal memory nowadays rather than use an SD card to store their crap on.
it is always better to have a hard-soldered memory chip for faster processing .
many applications wont install to an SD, one of them being Facebook!