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I just bought the sensation yesterday from T-Mobile. It seems to me after plenty of use that the battery gets drained good. Though, the speed doesn't. My friends HD2 with the similar sensation rom on it ran almost as smooth as this phone, while his was clocked single core 1ghz...even at a single core this phone should be faster right? Not only does HTC lock the bootloader, but do they also lock the dual-cores?
You decide...
While speed might not be as fast as it could be, I have to say that multitasking is flawless. I came from the Vibrant and the phone would freeze up doing normal activities (lock screen, phone calls, etc). I have yet to have the sensation freeze up on me. THAT is what I care about, not which app drawer loads fastest. Reliability is key.
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I just bought the sensation yesterday from T-Mobile. It seems to me after plenty of use that the battery gets drained good. Though, the speed doesn't. My friends HD2 with the similar sensation rom on it ran almost as smooth as this phone, while his was clocked single core 1ghz...even at a single core this phone should be faster right? Not only does HTC lock the bootloader, but do they also lock the dual-cores?
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Sounds like he was running a Sense 2.1 ROM with Sense 3.0 lockscreen - that's the only combination I could find on my HD2 that gave ANY kind of performance.
All of the Sense 3.0 ROMs ran so badly on my HD2 that I couldn't keep them on my phone more than a day.
Honestly I believe that the software we have right now is not optimized for dual core so until Ice cream Sandwich comes out. I really doubt dual cores are really gong to be make that much of a difference.
Most would agree that while Sense 3.0 is pretty to look at, it's a giant resource hog. And from what I understand, it's also poorly coded.
I think once we see an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs, you'll see and feel the benefits of dual cores.
Also, battery life gets better after a few days. I've had mine for over a week now and it seems to get better every day.
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Most would agree that while Sense 3.0 is pretty to look at, it's a giant resource hog. And from what I understand, it's also poorly coded.
I think once we see an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs, you'll see and feel the benefits of dual cores.
Also, battery life gets better after a few days. I've had mine for over a week now and it seems to get better every day.
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God.. thank you for mentioning about the battery life... Yesterday (1st day) my phone was draining ~9%/hr, today it's more like 5-7%/hr. With the same settings, my HD2 could do 2%/hr... I was starting to get worried about the issue. Hopefully I will see the battery life extend as time goes on like you suggested.
MAN thats the truth what a slow device and its funny i walked into tmobile to try it before i said it was slow and the rep saw my g2x in my hand and said your G2x is going to be faster then that sensation that your going to touch hahaha FUNNY.The sensation spit out a 2050 on quadrant i guess is ok but my g2x stock on 2.2 spits out a 2500 to 2700 so think when 2.3 hits anywho the sensation looks good on paper but real world no
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Sense 3.0 is crippling the phone. I think we'll see a big improvement when we get an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs
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Most would agree that while Sense 3.0 is pretty to look at, it's a giant resource hog. And from what I understand, it's also poorly coded.
I think once we see an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs, you'll see and feel the benefits of dual cores.
Also, battery life gets better after a few days. I've had mine for over a week now and it seems to get better every day.
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E-mac, what special methods, if any, did you use to condition the new battery? What was you charging habits? Care to give us your experience with the battery, like how long run and how much better left at end of day? Thanks allot
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Wait for an ota. It will iron out the kinks. According to android central, the evolution 3d is faster. There is little reason for this beyond the 3d maybe having more optimized software since it came out later/ was delayed. I know he sensation has less memory, but in the android architecture that is not a big deal if you still have some ram free...unlike windows where the more the better. In android, if your not using all your memory and you got a decent amount free, your good to go.
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One thing I have noticed reading all the Sensation reviews - the browser performance is quite poor, especially in sunspider. In fact it appears to be slower than my SGS which is a single 1ghz hummingbird processor. Is it just the Sense browser that is not optimised for dual core? does opera mobile give better performance?
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One thing I have noticed reading all the Sensation reviews - the browser performance is quite poor, especially in sunspider. In fact it appears to be slower than my SGS which is a single 1ghz hummingbird processor. Is it just the Sense browser that is not optimised for dual core? does opera mobile give better performance?
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Were you running a custom Rom on your SGS? Most custom roms have had major improvements to their javascript performance (which is what sunspider tests).
Multitasking is where this processor shines. Even on my G2X I would have to use the app called Fast Reboot to speed things up after a couple hours of use but I have had the Sensation on for 48 hours straight without using that app once and it's still lightning fast.
I think most people on here are expecting way to much from the dual core devices when most everything out there isn't even optimized for it. Sit back, relax and wait until we get optimization or go back to your HD2.
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E-mac, what special methods, if any, did you use to condition the new battery? What was you charging habits? Care to give us your experience with the battery, like how long run and how much better left at end of day? Thanks allot
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Not intending to hijack the thread, but I havent done anything special to condition the battery like I had to on my Evo. I can easily get through a day and a half with moderate use. It's almost always going to seem abysmal to start with simply because you can't put the damn thing down.
I just bought the sensation yesterday and played with it extensively and speed was fine, I'm sure time will tell if my opinions will change. Its charging now...but honestly folks, for those that complain about its speed, how fast does the phone need to be before people stop complaining about speed.
The question should really be does the phone perform fast enough so that the user does not experience lag on any of the apps, video/audio, texting, etc...functions they perform. If you are experiencing this then please explain what apps or programs you were running and what you are using as your basis for comparisons.
Its like buying the latest and greatest PC or Mac and then running dos programs...unless you are running really intensive A/V, memory or resource processes/programs, these benchmark scores really don't amount to much but a number for the average/typical user no matter how geeky or technical we think we are.
~rant over :-D
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jrwingate6 said:
Multitasking is where this processor shines. Even on my G2X I would have to use the app called Fast Reboot to speed things up after a couple hours of use but I have had the Sensation on for 48 hours straight without using that app once and it's still lightning fast.
I think most people on here are expecting way to much from the dual core devices when most everything out there isn't even optimized for it. Sit back, relax and wait until we get optimization or go back to your HD2.
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Amen!
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I've read many reviews of people who say that the Atrix 2 is "slightly laggy." I'm sure that after ICS comes out which will enable hardware graphical acceleration, that lag will be pretty much gone. The phone will be much smoother with ICS. What do you guys think?
What lag? o.o My phone hasn't stuttered at all even in games.
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I've read many reviews of people who say that the Atrix 2 is "slightly laggy." I'm sure that after ICS comes out which will enable hardware graphical acceleration, that lag will be pretty much gone. The phone will be much smoother with ICS. What do you guys think?
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ICS performance on the Galaxy Nexus should be an excellent indication of how it will run on the Atrix 2, as its chipset is the same one used in the Galaxy Nexus, except for lower clock speed. GPU performance between the two is expected to be quite close even though the Atrix 2's SGX 540 has an 84 MHZ disadvantage because it doesn't have to render at higher resolution.
I agree with Kori, my phone has 0 lag even when downloading multiple apps and constant texting as well as syncing
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LOL what lag are you talking about? Zero lag here.
Somebodys lying to you then cause my A2 doesnt lag at all
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It is funny that A2 has such a nice review from everyone, but not many peoples are actually getting it.
+1. For $99 its an unbelievable steal as far as what you get for your money.
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It is funny that A2 has such a nice review from everyone, but not many peoples are actually getting it.
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I think thats due to a few reasons
1. It came on the coattails of the iP4
2. It got no marketing push and isnt even avail. at all AT&T stores
3. It has just a few upgrades over the OG Atrix
4. It came just before two overhyped devices, the RAZR and Nexus
I think the combination of people not knowing about it, the timing of its release and the release of two heavily marketed devices has paralyzed the market for the A2.....and a locked bootloader doesnt help at all.
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There really isn't much lag except with some ****ty apps that are badly coded/not optimized yet. Really though, the Atrix 2 runs quite well.
Glad to hear that you guys have no lag on your A2s. I'm just repeating what I read. Some have reported it as laggy compared to the GS2.
For the price ($50 on Amazon), this phone is a steal. I'll be getting it next month. Really looking forward to ICS!
No lag here, smooth as silk compared to other Android phones and especially my OG Atrix.
Honestly, I don't know what all the lag statements are about. I guess if I switched screens at a rapid pace continually it might lag once but who uses their phone like that?
I don't see much lag at all...there is an occasional slight stutter, but every android phone does that at some point.
Everyone with a GS2 just wants to talk smack on the Atrix 2, bro. I tried the GS2 and I'm glad I made the decision to go with the Atrix 2.
I think the GS2 is a nice device but I just didnt think it was $150 better than the Atrix 2
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Also i think another advantage vs GS2 is that the omap 4 series cpu are using duel channel memory controller. I think this is one of the reason that A2 doesn't have lag issue.
everything about this phone makes me drool
only thing im hesitating about is the random reboots
how often does it reboot for you guys?
Mine hasn't done it one time.
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Don't get it.
Great phone! I've had zero issues and have nothing but praise for this handset.
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No reboots unless your on stock 2.2 for some odd reason. Everything else is smooth. No problems here.
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I haven't had a single issue with the phone.
I've had about 5 random reboots in the past 6 months that I've had my G2x.
Only ran on stock for about 3 days. After that running differents roms weekly.
I've never had any reboots. No screen bleed. I've had zero issues, phone rules flawlessly. The capacitive buttons are legit and are the perfect sensitivity. ROMs make this the phone to beat for TMo, expect maybe the Amaze or SGS2. But this Tegra 2 chipset (despite it's closed nature) is really legitimate. Performs super well.
I say get it unless you're willing to shell out the $$ for either of the two mentioned above.
Reboots only occur on the Stock roms. It is a kernel issue.
CM7 has also boinked something up the past few nightlies and its kernel is doing a Screen of Death (won't wake up)... but their beta anyway. A different kernel is the solution. This is only for the past 3-4 nightlies. Normally no issues. I'm running the latest nightly #201 and I haven't had any issues the past few days.
Most custom roms don't have reboot issues.
There's better devices out there. Hell, I'd even get the Nexus S over this.
GB is really fast on this phone and other than the fact that the processor is closed source, it's a great phone.
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There are always gonna be better devices, and they will have their own issues, read somewhere that the NS had some overheating issues. I love my phone and I'm not changing it till I got ICS running on it for a while...
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I'm getting this phone too, hopefully. I want the g2x because its 4", 8mp flash, dual core, not too expensive, and is officially getting ICS(i think). I never buy my phones from t mobile because i feel its a rip off (short software support of phones that will be free in a month). I hope the closed source processor stuff changes.
My question is, do custom roms like miui and cm7 utilize the dual core processor in the phone?
if the processor is closed source, how come there are custom roms?
thanks
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I'm getting this phone too, hopefully. I want the g2x because its 4", 8mp flash, dual core, not too expensive, and is officially getting ICS(i think). I never buy my phones from t mobile because i feel its a rip off (short software support of phones that will be free in a month). I hope the closed source processor stuff changes.
My question is, do custom roms like miui and cm7 utilize the dual core processor in the phone?
if the processor is closed source, how come there are custom roms?
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No, MIUI nor CM7 uses both cores to the fullest. It uses the other core just for small stuff.
nVidia doesn't release the source for their Tegra, thus we don't have governors for the processors and ICS straight for source seems to be a failure with out the Tegra source as hardware acceleration won't be working with out it.
MIUI is still kinda buggy for me, so I stick to CM7 or a stock LG GB build.
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I had a g2x 5-6 months ago but had to sell it at the time for bills. I liked it a lot at the time. When I was caught back up, I picked up a Sensation. I drooled over the Sensation since it was announced and was glad to be able to get one. After a month or two of owning it, I was relieved to be able to get rid it. Rooted, overclocked, custom rom etc.. Battery life was poor regardless of what I tried. It was also surprisingly laggy to me.
I picked up another G2x a couple of days ago. Battery life has been livable, performance has been great overall. I'd still recommend a g2x to just about anyone. Cant necessarily say the same about the Sensation.
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No random reboots or other problems since I got a reborn g2x with GB because the OS died during the official update from Froyo. All around very satisfactory. Good cameras, reasonable battery life, gps locks at about the same speed as my Nexus One, good screen size. No reason to update to Nexus Prime and LG says ICS is coming, although this time I'll wait to see if they've done the upgrade right.
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I'm confident we will get a working ics rom with everything working eventually, when that happens and the new kernel/baseband proves to be better then previous versions, the g2x will be a force to be reckoned with!
It already is a beast of a phone and with ics utilizing all the strengths of the g2x i'll be that much more excited i stuck around with mine til a worthy upgrade comes around(quadcore/truely better battery life/display)
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any body go from super amoled to the g2x display?
how is it?
there is no good video online showing differences.
@OP: its a great phone, my current copy has not been giving me any hardware trouble. No reboots, no overheating etc. This is my 4th g2x though. I would not buy this phone on the used market without a good warranty. But direct from Tmo or with a decent warranty, it is worth the hassle for an otherwise awesome phone.
@dapoharoun: My previous phone was an SGS4g (with super amoled display). Definitely a better display than the g2x. The blacks are (amazingly) completely black. Which makes the colors really pop. Particularly awesome if you use a ROM/app with black background (e.g. CM7 MMS has this option.) The single exception to this is with photography. Samsung has tuned up the saturation, and photos looks unrealistic on this display. The photos themselves are fine, it just when we review them on the AMOLED.
Great phone no problem's here.I was only stock for two days though.
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I see cheap Chinese android phones with single core CPU not any better than nexus, 512mb ram and a really weak GPU having better gaming performance than the nexus S. We have such weird stuttering in a lot of games that is not found with other 1Ghz phones. On the other hand nexus S seems to give great framerates but just the performance is so inconsistent.
So what exactly is wrong? Does nexus S have poor ram speed or flash memory speed? If that is the case then I wonder why Google cheaped out as nexus S was a very expensive phone at launch!!
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Gambler_3 said:
I see cheap Chinese android phones with single core CPU not any better than nexus, 512mb ram and a really weak GPU having better gaming performance than the nexus S. We have such weird stuttering in a lot of games that is not found with other 1Ghz phones. On the other hand nexus S seems to give great framerates but just the performance is so inconsistent.
So what exactly is wrong? Does nexus S have poor ram speed or flash memory speed? If that is the case then I wonder why Google cheaped out as nexus S was a very expensive phone at launch!!
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yeah its strange. the performance on this phone is very inconsistent. Cant really understand why the messaging app has some microlag in the opening animation for example. Its a really simple animation, it should not have microlag... if i set the animation to "ics animation" on nova launcher, animations do not have microlag anymore when opening apps. It seems that the animations and overall performance on JB is somehow broken
Another example is the app ANY.DO...on my girlfriends phone(galaxy s2), upon opening any.do, when the list of notes is displayed the animations are fluid. On my Nexus S, when the list of notes is displayed it is not fluid at all. I know the S2 is much more powerfull but still, it is just a simple list of notes loading and it should be as fluid as the S2 i think...
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yeah its strange. the performance on this phone is very inconsistent. Cant really understand why the messaging app has some microlag in the opening animation for example. Its a really simple animation, it should not have microlag... if i set the animation to "ics animation" on nova launcher, animations do not have microlag anymore when opening apps. It seems that the animations and overall performance on JB is somehow broken
Another example is the app ANY.DO...on my girlfriends phone(galaxy s2), upon opening any.do, when the list of notes is displayed the animations are fluid. On my Nexus S, when the list of notes is displayed it is not fluid at all. I know the S2 is much more powerfull but still, it is just a simple list of notes loading and it should be as fluid as the S2 i think...
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A friend told me that the galaxy S and nexus S have slow internal memory even by 2010 standards which is really pathetic since Samsung is the biggest manufacturer of flash memory.
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A friend told me that the galaxy S and nexus S have slow internal memory even by 2010 standards which is really pathetic since Samsung is the biggest manufacturer of flash memory.
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My confusion comes from the fact that I have both a Galaxy S and a Nexus S and I find that the Galaxy is noticeably snappier and less laggy than the Nexus regardless of ROM. I was under the impression they largely have the same basic hardware. Go figure. I would prefer to use the Nexus because I make use of the camera flash every now and again, but the lag is just enough to aggravate me.
My Nexus ran circles around my uncles and mother in laws Galaxy S when it was configured as I had it below. And that was with a soon-to-be-fatal memory error. I had a bunch of weird performance problems with certain kernels, and spent an unusual amount of time getting it set up to be snappy with decent battery life, but eventually found it with the combo in my sig. Then 2 weeks later it died because of a bug in CWM Touch v6 :crying:
Jellybean animations are optimized more for the newer dual and quad core phones, although it is supported on the Nexus there is no way to make it as smooth IMO. Google has been doing this "Butter Project" for awhile now, which is basically it's name for the efforts they have placed on making Android run smoothly via the screen and touch interface. Program to program performance relies on the person writing the app.
Honestly this thing is a marvel. Any other phone I had that is 2 years or more older was nowhere near as relevant as this thing still is. It is still my favorite phone out, because of form factor. I feel they are getting too big for my tastes. Really wish they would drop another Nexus that is still this same size, with at least a snappy dual core and a couple gigs of RAM. Let's get serious, this thing is super out-dated but still has every feature you could ever want, it can't stay fast forever while cramming all this crap into it.
Want it fast? Put Gingerbread on it. I had it on mine for awhile, and it was blazing fast. Awesome if you only use it for a phone and light browsing, sucks if you use a lot of random apps because of compatibility issues though
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Honestly this thing is a marvel. Any other phone I had that is 2 years or more older was nowhere near as relevant as this thing still is. It is still my favorite phone out, because of form factor. I feel they are getting too big for my tastes. Really wish they would drop another Nexus that is still this same size, with at least a snappy dual core and a couple gigs of RAM. Let's get serious, this thing is super out-dated but still has every feature you could ever want, it can't stay fast forever while cramming all this crap into it.
Want it fast? Put Gingerbread on it. I had it on mine for awhile, and it was blazing fast. Awesome if you only use it for a phone and light browsing, sucks if you use a lot of random apps because of compatibility issues though
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I agree with this statement entirely. Form factor is going from phone to tablet and I don't like it. NS to me, has the best size and form. Good size of screen, holdable and fit nice in the pocket. Sadly, good bye are the days of 'phone-phones'.
The problem that is getting big here on xda is that eveyone capable or incapable is reviewing the device. Most of the people are making stories by heart and on their personal liking or dislikes. So its creating confusions. So at a point when s4 forum is already full of false tid bits and totally biased reviews. Those who are planning to get the device, should see the known reviews by known authors and video testings. Not just a thread bashing s4 for overheating or its plastic nature.
I even read a review where a person is comparing the octa core with a dual core. Hahahahahaha
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I tend just to look out for the bad reviews and ask myself can I live with the faults, eg screen issue, made of plastic, internal storage issue, well the screen issue as mostly gone since the last update, the plastic issue for me is a none issue, the storage issue is a bit of a bummer but I have installled everything i use and have 4gb left plus 20gb of music on my sd card, the battery life is far better than i expected, people need to remember that the ui is only going to get smoother as samsung improves the firmware
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both phones suck.
can we mutually agree upon that?
That's just nonsense. There are plenty of posts mentioning negative aspects of S4. Obviously a fair share of bias would creep in as posters would be biased towards the phone of their choice. It's not as if they're doing this for a profession or something.
When s3 came. There was a false accusation that its battery exploded. There were rumors that it gets overheated. Then peopke even say that it lags and cant compete htc one x but in the end it was 60 million s3 sold within 10 months.
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I tend to read the reviews, then ignore them and choose the one I prefer myself, not what everyone else says.
Why should you hide defects from potential buyers? All phones have them at points. If someone is choosing a phone I would want to hear different opinions on it and potential issues. If someone is annoyed and bashing the S4 because they bought the phone why cant they? It was their money if they have a faulty product they probably will be annoyed.
I think the OS sees the Octa as a dual core, the OS is not aware of 4x4 witch should be transparent. But... I've not the skills in that department, someone correct me please?
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Well maybe u interpreted it right the core android kernel is still not octa core supported.
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IMO the S4 in its current state has a few issues:
Stutter on opening and closing apps and in scrolling.
Chrome freezes (even though it comes on the phone)
Wake locks caused by some apps
Sometimes when closing a game and opening another the device freezes.
But I'm still happy as I'm the kind of person who will put custom roms and kernels on my phone so I know this can all be sorted out.
However, if I was the kind of person who buys the phone and leaves it as stock I would be a bit disappointed. My galaxy s2 with a custom 4.2.2 rom was much smoother.
But I got my s4 for potential, not what it can do right now. The reviews mean different things to different people. Personally I don't think the S4 is the best advertisement for the latest version of Android, not yet anyway.
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I have the HTC One and S4. Both are excellent phones and different. Once the S4 has had a few software updates from Samsung to iron out a few bugs it will be fine. No different from any handset. My S3 took about 3 months to be cured of bugs.
Just ask yourself, does the S4 do what you need? If it does, go for it.
Both are very nice phones, no doubt about this. You just have to decide if you want:
+ better lowlight performance camera
+ better video capture with ridiculously good mic
+ vastly better outdoor visibility of the display
+ very clean and snappy UI
then you take the ONE.
That does not mean the S4 is a bad phone
^^ Here we go..... sighsss
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is it me or has anyone else noticed how heavily bias towards the Samsung S4??
The pen (words) are mightier than the sword,
But like the sword they can be bought for a price.
That's how i think and view most reviews
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In the case of reviews by sites such as Motley Fool, I have a sneaking suspicion that they want to influence stock prices.