Bootloader, CUZ...Whats the fuss! - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General

CONCERNING AT&T's Galaxy S4
So I looking thru the threads every ones frantic bout this bootloader stuff...
I'm Thinking what-de-do.
We playing smoke and mirrors here!
Dan the man has done the job, and if your already rooted, no problems....(Give him his props though)
ASK YOURSELF:
1. Are you rooted? If yes go to question #2
2. IS GooManager Installed? If yes go to Question #3
3. Can you find TWRP version 2.5.0.2 in GooManager for AT&T? If yes Install it! and Go to Question # 4
4. There is no question 4 your done!!!!
You have a custom Recovery bootloader!!!

Are you OK?

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akira02rex said:
Are you OK?
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Look at my hair, do I look OK?

Bro...
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Lol awesome
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retard...sheeez

These are perfect instructions. Thanks for sharing.

iSaint said:
Bro...
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OOPS....
TOO LATE!!!

Custom bootloader??? Nowhere in that process do you get a custom bootloader
But really though, Loki will suffice for now...and its incredible that Dan was able to find the exploit and utilize it...
But, we do still need to worry about bootloaders...for the sake of future s4 owners...sure we have something that works now, but what about the people who buy the phone a couple months from now? It's something that should always be looked into just for the Saks of future patches
I'm not bashing Dan here...take note I gave him a compliment...just trying to explain why some are still worrying about the bootloader - for us current owners nothing to worry about, its just the possibility that future owners may not be able to use this...
And yes, even future exploit may/will get patched...so its just a cat and mouse game were playing, hopefully att isn't going to get to into keeping the bootloader locked...and who knows, maybe they never will bother to patch Loki...only time will tell
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I have to say this thread was the most helpful thread for me

mg2195 said:
Custom bootloader??? Nowhere in that process do you get a custom bootloader
But really though, Loki will suffice for now...and its incredible that Dan was able to find the exploit and utilize it...
But, we do still need to worry about bootloaders...for the sake of future s4 owners...sure we have something that works now, but what about the people who buy the phone a couple months from now? It's something that should always be looked into just for the Saks of future patches
I'm not bashing Dan here...take note I gave him a compliment...just trying to explain why some are still worrying about the bootloader - for us current owners nothing to worry about, its just the possibility that future owners may not be able to use this...
And yes, even future exploit may/will get patched...so its just a cat and mouse game were playing, hopefully att isn't going to get to into keeping the bootloader locked...and who knows, maybe they never will bother to patch Loki...only time will tell
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Actually now that Dan has released the exploit and satisfied the masses, it seems like he is diving head first into a more solid bootloader solution. Along with the satisfying part, it seems to have stopped the idiots from posting in the R&D thread when they were not supposed to be, hindering development. Either way, as expected, development is taking off full force and a new exploit will be found in time. Hopefully before they patch the current one so when they do, we can just give carriers the bird and boot unlock the same day bwahahaha :laugh:

Well My Thoughts
mg2195 said:
Custom bootloader??? Nowhere in that process do you get a custom bootloader
But really though, Loki will suffice for now...and its incredible that Dan was able to find the exploit and utilize it...
But, we do still need to worry about bootloaders...for the sake of future s4 owners...sure we have something that works now, but what about the people who buy the phone a couple months from now? It's something that should always be looked into just for the Saks of future patches
I'm not bashing Dan here...take note I gave him a compliment...just trying to explain why some are still worrying about the bootloader - for us current owners nothing to worry about, its just the possibility that future owners may not be able to use this...
And yes, even future exploit may/will get patched...so its just a cat and mouse game were playing, hopefully att isn't going to get to into keeping the bootloader locked...and who knows, maybe they never will bother to patch Loki...only time will tell
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The AT&T Guys as well as the Verizon Guys know that enough stuff goes wrong in the most normal times.. so in my humble opinion they can not lock these devices down where as the masses of company techs are unable to fix their own $hit such as resetting downgrading etc... The big companies have to fix their stock units, nuff said!! (remember thats just my opinion..)

Dude he's got a valid point. Thanks to Dan and numerous other devs who have Loki'd their work, I've got TWRP, a nandroid, and Faux's kernel. On a device with a locked bootloader. All in less than 24 hours since Dan released his exploit. That's incredible, and saying "thank you" just doesn't seem like enough.
As far as future S4 owners, the same badass peeps are working on a permanent unlock. People with lives besides XDA, and families too.
But in the meantime, if you've got an AT&T or Verizon S4 and you wanna flash stuff, you've got not a dang thing to complain about.
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TRUE DAT
Planktron said:
Dude he's got a valid point. Thanks to Dan and numerous other devs who have Loki'd their work, I've got TWRP, a nandroid, and Faux's kernel. On a device with a locked bootloader. All in less than 24 hours since Dan released his exploit. That's incredible, and saying "thank you" just doesn't seem like enough.
As far as future S4 owners, the same badass peeps are working on a permanent unlock. People with lives besides XDA, and families too.
But in the meantime, if you've got an AT&T or Verizon S4 and you wanna flash stuff, you've got not a dang thing to complain about.
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Dan's the Man as in the first post... (you better believe, I've ponied up some funds)
:angel:

I'm just trying to understand.
I followed all the easy to follow instructions and had no issues.
What do I have now?
Is it that my bootloader is unlocked? I keep seeing "loki" mentioned everywhere.....
I'm coming from an s3. Once I had cmw I could flash roms.
Now on the s4 I have twrp. Can I flash roms at my leisure?
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Tjisana said:
I'm just trying to understand.
I followed all the easy to follow instructions and had no issues.
What do I have now?
Is it that my bootloader is unlocked? I keep seeing "loki" mentioned everywhere.....
I'm coming from an s3. Once I had cmw I could flash roms.
Now on the s4 I have twrp. Can I flash roms at my leisure?
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If you have twrp, you can only flash roms with the loki patch. You may also flash a t-mobile rom without the loki patch as long as you also flash a loki patched kernel before rebooting.

I got approved for an upgrade from AT&T even though I got a Note 2 with an upgrade last November, they are even giving it to me for $174. However I will for sure be flashing AOSP on it, my concern is, once a new version of Android comes out, and new bootloaders are required(4.3, 5.0) what are we going to do then? If we want to run any future version of android that require new bootloaders we are kinda screwed. So not only are future buyers in jeopardy of not being able to run custom firmwares, the current user-base who can take advantage of Dan's exploit may not be able to update to future versions of Android unless they want to run stock Samsung TouchWiz.
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Jonnyredcorn said:
I got approved for an upgrade from AT&T even though I got a Note 2 with an upgrade last November, they are even giving it to me for $174. However I will for sure be flashing AOSP on it, my concern is, once a new version of Android comes out, and new bootloaders are required(4.3, 5.0) what are we going to do then? If we want to run any future version of android that require new bootloaders we are kinda screwed. So not only are future buyers in jeopardy of not being able to run custom firmwares, the current user-base who can take advantage of Dan's exploit may not be able to update to future versions of Android unless they want to run stock Samsung TouchWiz.
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Pretty sure we can odin back to factory firmware and apply MDL ota and then apply root/recovery and you're set :thumbup:
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[ROM] CWM3 Flashable - T959VUVKC1 - DEODEXED[05/15/2011]

why T959VUVKC1 and not T959VUVKD1 because T959VUVKC1 is more stable and T959VUVKD1 has frequent self reboots.
Condition to be fullfiled before flashing this rom is at below link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079930
Install procedure:
1- Download Rom to PC from below link.
2- Put Rom.zip in sdcard.
3- Use Rom Manager to Reboot into recovery mode.
4- Choose Install Zip from sdcard.
5- Wait untill completed and reboot the phone.
6- wait for 3-5 mins for phone to fully come up first time.
Features included in the Rom:
1- Deodexed
2- Root
3- 6 LockScreens and Extended Power Menu options.
Rom.zip download link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MQGXTBMS
it doesn't work for me.
cwm3 complains about it being amend not edify.
not to complain, but did you test this?
Have you followed this first before flashing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1079930
arahma said:
Have you followed this first before flashing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1079930
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I clicked on it several times to read the link. I got:
404 PAGE NOT FOUND
The page you requested not found
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arahma said:
Have you followed this first before flashing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1079930
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Of course not.
I ran it directly from the orange ClockworkMod Recovery v3.0.2.8.
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arahma said:
why T959VUVKC1 and not T959VUVKD1 because T959VUVKC1 is more stable and T959VUVKD1 has frequent self reboots.
Condition to be fullfiled before flashing this rom is at below link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079930
Install procedure:
1- Download Rom to PC from below link.
2- Put Rom.zip in sdcard.
3- Use Rom Manager to Reboot into recovery mode.
4- Choose Install Zip from sdcard.
5- Wait untill completed and reboot the phone.
6- wait for 3-5 mins for phone to fully come up first time.
Features included in the Rom:
1- Deodexed
2- Root
3- 6 LockScreens and Extended Power Menu options.
Rom.zip download link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MQGXTBMS
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Can you please tell me why you continue to post telling people to use ROM manager? I know that you have used it, but there is no official release of CWM (FOR SGS4G models) inside of ROM Manager yet. Additionally, Edify is the current standard for CWM 3.x.x not Amend so why are you pointing people to use zip's not following edify scripting.
Furthermore, do you really have any proof that KC1 (AN UNRELEASED BUILD from Samsung) is MORE stable than the KD1 WHICH WAS released?
Again for people who just take your word and then mess up their phone it's not helpful.
I say ban. Already
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badboy68 said:
I say ban. Already
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+1 i agree
Im so sick of this forum.... seriously worst collective group of enthusiasts ever.
mavictb said:
Im so sick of this forum.... seriously worst collective group of enthusiasts ever.
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don t come back then, seriously, we are not the ones with the problems, its rooks like you.. u obviously missed a thread. im jus saying
badboy68 said:
don t come back then, seriously, we are not the ones with the problems, its rooks like you.. u obviously missed a thread. im jus saying
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lol as if you know me. cocky much?
oh and also I dont have any problems with my device... and Im far from a "rook" I have been modding smartphones since smartphones existed... and before that I was modding pocketpcs and psps. It seems people like you jump to conclusions.
mavictb said:
oh and also I dont have any problems with my device... and Im far from a "rook" I have been modding smartphones since smartphones existed... and before that I was modding pocketpcs and psps. It seems people like you jump to conclusions.
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There's no reason to be enthusiastic over a bad solution such as the one proposed in the OP.
My point for commenting wasn't to not be enthusiastic, the point is THIS PROCEDURE may work for the author, but it's not the recommended nor the proper way to use CWM. It's not the CWM designed for this device.
So pardon me to rain on the parade, preventing users from doing something to mess up their device.
mavictb said:
lol as if you know me. cocky much?
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i dnt have to know you, wen it comes to the 4g, ur a rook, if i made u mad sorry, if das all u can say, den like i said, dnt come back to this forum
joedeveloper said:
There's no reason to be enthusiastic over a bad solution such as the one proposed in the OP.
My point for commenting wasn't to not be enthusiastic, the point is THIS PROCEDURE may work for the author, but it's not the recommended nor the proper way to use CWM. It's not the CWM designed for this device.
So pardon me to rain on the parade, preventing users from doing something to mess up their device.
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Thank you for your comment. I'm a noob. I've been reading and rereading everything in our forum and to tell you the truth I'm am getting confused.
I definitely need the correct, easiest and simplest method. Not because I'm lazy. I'm just a brand new noob and if I screw up my phone I'm in real trouble.
I barely know the basics but I'm itching to mod my phone. I'm missing all the fun! Lol.
All this dialog concerning our current developments and different methods may be annoying to some of the more knowledgable but to a noob like me it is very informative.
Thank you all for your input.
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badboy68 said:
i dnt have to know you, wen it comes to the 4g, ur a rook, if i made u mad sorry, if das all u can say, dnt, den like i said, come back to this forum
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I have had my 4g since 10am release day... still not seeing how I'm a "rook" but I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion, ignorant or not.
P.S. its spelled didn't, that's and then.
Like joedeveloper said. Use the CWM from krylon. This is going to cause issues in the long run. The CWM from krylon is still beta, but that is the version you want. Not from the vibrant.
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joedeveloper said:
There's no reason to be enthusiastic over a bad solution such as the one proposed in the OP.
My point for commenting wasn't to not be enthusiastic, the point is THIS PROCEDURE may work for the author, but it's not the recommended nor the proper way to use CWM. It's not the CWM designed for this device.
So pardon me to rain on the parade, preventing users from doing something to mess up their device.
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My first post was also towards the OP. I'm tired of seeing the blind lead the blind. It only leads to "I bricked my phone, HELP!" threads. I guess I was a little tired last night and didn't articulate my thought properly. I am only on this forum because I own the device and I try to help the actual devs (all 3 of them for this device) and also have current information on progress for this device. I'm not here to be led by the blind. Not saying that you are one of the ones who is blind because I really don't know you. either way I am not at all enthusiastic over this so called solution at all... I used odin to update my device the proper way as I have been using odin well over a year now. Which it seems to some makes ME a "rook" lol Ignorance is bliss... must be a Obama supporter too I bet.
Jerry D said:
Thank you for your comment. I'm a noob. I've been reading and rereading everything in our forum and to tell you the truth I'm am getting confused.
I definitely need the correct, easiest and simplest method. Not because I'm lazy. I'm just a brand new noob and if I screw up my phone I'm in real trouble.
I barely know the basics but I'm itching to mod my phone. I'm missing all the fun! Lol.
All this dialog concerning our current developments and different methods may be annoying to some of the more knowledgable but to a noob like me it is very informative.
Thank you all for your input.
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stick to anything posted by krylon360/whitehawx, etc etc
mavictb said:
My first post was also towards the OP. I'm tired of seeing the blind lead the blind. It only leads to "I bricked my phone, HELP!" threads. I guess I was a little tired last night and didn't articulate my thought properly. I am only on this forum because I own the device and I try to help the actual devs (all 3 of them for this device) and also have current information on progress for this device. I'm not here to be led by the blind. Not saying that you are one of the ones who is blind because I really don't know you. either way I am not at all enthusiastic over this so called solution at all... I used odin to update my device the proper way as I have been using odin well over a year now. Which it seems to some makes ME a "rook" lol Ignorance is bliss... must be a Obama supporter too I bet.
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ok must be a hitler supporter bet, point taken. i believe i was also a little tired myself friend, but if your assisting with the devs on this device, then much apologies to you. i hope you continue to support this forum in making this phone better, for me and all of us who owns this sgs4g. thank you

[Q] Android Update with root?

Hi,
I'm new to this area and therefore I have a question.
Today I opened the bootloader of my HTC sensation and Rooted.
Then I noticed that an Android update from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 is available.
Can I just install this update? If after updating anything be different?
I do not want a Custom ROM.
Thanks!
Wanted to aks the same question, maybe a little bit more specific: Will the update make the Revolution-Hack impossible?
From what I read some peoples locked. What i suggest is that you flash cwm then a custom ROM that's 2.3.4 and problem solved.
I would recommend insert coin.
Edit: missed the don't want a custom ROM part. Well I still suggest it. I mean you already voided your warranty so what do u have to lose?
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Just install a custom ROM. You're already rooted. I don't understand the complete lack of logic people have. "I completely unlocked my device, and now I'm going to stay with the bare minimum ****ty stock ROM!"
Whoa, speak for yourself dudes! Stock ROM is better than any others, in MY opinion as well as many others. Just because you dont like the stock ROM (or a custom), doesnt make it worthless. My phone is likely just as fast as your ROM phone. So how bout you lighten up? My choice to stay with stock ROM is quite logical. I am happy with the ROOT apps that I am running, along with ADW EX, so I dont need any custom ROM.
Also, what does he have to lose? How about turning a shiny sensation into a brick if something goes wrong?
How has he voided his warranty? Getting back to S-On is doable now. So yea, pushing ROMs isnt very diplomatic of you, especially if he doesnt want one.
Also, I think that revolution may be updated now for the 2.3.4 people. Youll need to look into that if you want to be perm rooted with 2.3.4
Matt
Theres no way your stock rom is faster than insert coin or any other rom for that matter. Whats really the point of rooting if your not going to flash a rom eventually. I can understand for a little while keeping stock rom. Like i kept mine stock until there was an update. But after that you really dont have much choice unless you want to take the chance of breaking root or htc locking you out of bootloader again. Your choice. But the most logical thing you could do is find a good custom rom that has the upgrade you want. But dont sit there and say your stock rom is better or even close to better than roms these devs work day and night to make. Cause we all know thats garbage. Also its not flashing roms that brick your phone. Its getting s-off and flashing radios or new bootloaders. Youve already took the chance of bricking your phone. Your at the easy part now!!!! Flash a damn rom!!!! Do a nandroid backup so if you dont like it you can go back to your beloved stock rom.
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Xx12thANG3LxX said:
Theres no way your stock rom is faster than insert coin or any other rom for that matter. Whats really the point of rooting if your not going to flash a rom eventually. I can understand for a little while keeping stock rom. Like i kept mine stock until there was an update. But after that you really dont have much choice unless you want to take the chance of breaking root or htc locking you out of bootloader again. Your choice. But the most logical thing you could do is find a good custom rom that has the upgrade you want. But dont sit there and say your stock rom is better or even close to better than roms these devs work day and night to make. Cause we all know thats garbage. Also its not flashing roms that brick your phone. Its getting s-off and flashing radios or new bootloaders. Youve already took the chance of bricking your phone. Your at the easy part now!!!! Flash a damn rom!!!! Do a nandroid backup so if you dont like it you can go back to your beloved stock rom.
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Hahah, you are kidding me right? So, how is yours faster? How is mine faster? What the hell do you even mean by FASTER? Faster at what?
And WHOA...Just because a dev worked day and night on something, doesnt make it better. That mentality needs to come to a complete stop, cuz in the real world, no one gives a crap about your team spirit. Show them WHY its better. WHAT it does better. You sound like a teenager.
All a ROM is, is a customization of one's phone. So I customized mine, ON MY OWN? That doesnt discount what I have done, nor make it any better or any worse than yours.
Whats the point in rooting? How about being able to run TB or Root Explorer, or Adfree? Shall I go on? Do you really expect to change my, or anyone's, mind based on your reasons? And lets not forget you calling my feelings garbage.
Which do you want to be today, the pot or the kettle?
All those that pushed a ROM, FAILED the OP. He SPECIFICALLY asked NOT for a custom ROM. Go away if you cannot help him with his request, because there are others here that can.
Matt
Heated much?
Insertcoin is faster than stock and if u say it isn't u obviously haven't tried it. And u can't brick ur phone without being completely stupid. Xda has great support with instructions to help.
There was a chance of you bricking ur phone with revolutionary so i don't understand that why you would be worried about bricking with cwm.
I acknowledged that he didn't want a custom ROM but i did suggest it. It would save him some trouble in the future.
There are also stock roms that have just been optimized and what not.
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And here u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218110
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chrisizzle492 said:
Heated much?
Insertcoin is faster than stock and if u say it isn't u obviously haven't tried it. And u can't brick ur phone without being completely stupid. Xda has great support with instructions to help.
There was a chance of you bricking ur phone with revolutionary so i don't understand that why you would be worried about bricking with cwm.
I acknowledged that he didn't want a custom ROM but i did suggest it. It would save him some trouble in the future.
There are also stock roms that have just been optimized and what not.
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Whoa there, chill out. I asked for an explanation as to WHAT a particular ROM was faster at. I didnt claim to have the fastest setup. And again, you guys need to define "fast". WHAT is fast about the ROM?
Matt
Why dont you click on the link that he gave you and read whats fast about the rom. Instead of being rude to people that are trying to help you.
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Thanks.
And I'm talking in terms of UI fluidity. And how fast the phone responds to your actions. Stock ROM can't touch a custom ROM.
And i am calm, I'm clarifying my point so the op can make the best decision.
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i agree with the OP.
Currently I am happy with the stock rom, it does all I need, I like the fact that I CAN DECIDE when/if I change to a custom rom.
I am using the Sensation with the OTA update to 2.3.4 and I got my root and S-OFF thanks to the wonderful people at revolution
I just wanted s-off and root in order to use Titanium backup
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iftikar666 said:
i agree with the OP.
Currently I am happy with the stock rom, it does all I need, I like the fact that I CAN DECIDE when/if I change to a custom rom.
I am using the Sensation with the OTA update to 2.3.4 and I got my root and S-OFF thanks to the wonderful people at revolution
I just wanted s-off and root in order to use Titanium backup
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Bingo!
It is everyone else pushing ROMs that are the ones being rude! Not us! Just because we dont want to flash one of your ROMs doesnt make us rude, or illogical. So stop that crap!
Its no different than the SGS2 people coming on here telling us their samsung is better. If we want a ROM, we know where to go. Deal?
Arguing over which ROM is best, is beating a dead horse. The OP didnt ask anything about a custom ROM, yet he had it shoved down his throat. You guys treat it like its your Religion or something. Sheesh!
To the OP-Doesnt it feel nice now, to know you can choose what apps run in your phone? I was so excited the first time I watched those bloat apps STOP!
Matt
Matt, ur points are valid but ur killing ur credibility by ranting. Turn the flame down and make your point without all the aggression and you'll get better results.
mrg02d said:
Hahah, you are kidding me right? So, how is yours faster? How is mine faster? What the hell do you even mean by FASTER? Faster at what?
And WHOA...Just because a dev worked day and night on something, doesnt make it better. That mentality needs to come to a complete stop, cuz in the real world, no one gives a crap about your team spirit. Show them WHY its better. WHAT it does better. You sound like a teenager.
All a ROM is, is a customization of one's phone. So I customized mine, ON MY OWN? That doesnt discount what I have done, nor make it any better or any worse than yours.
Whats the point in rooting? How about being able to run TB or Root Explorer, or Adfree? Shall I go on? Do you really expect to change my, or anyone's, mind based on your reasons? And lets not forget you calling my feelings garbage.
Which do you want to be today, the pot or the kettle?
All those that pushed a ROM, FAILED the OP. He SPECIFICALLY asked NOT for a custom ROM. Go away if you cannot help him with his request, because there are others here that can.
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I totally agree with you. The OP said he does not want custom ROM so lets help him with what he wants and not force him to do something that you or me want.
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Matt, ur points are valid but ur killing ur credibility by ranting. Turn the flame down and make your point without all the aggression and you'll get better results.
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Agreed. I find myself heating up with so much fire all around here. Theres nothing more irritating than having someone call you illogical for not wanting to use someone's ROM.
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I totally agree with you. The OP said he does not want custom ROM so lets help him with what he wants and not force him to do something that you or me want.
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I already did first page
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AT&T update?

Just a simple question. is this the update for the new radio and such? Or is it just a fake message? I'm rooted and read up on the new update but was just curious is all
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It's probably just for the ROM.
That is correct its Sense 3.0 update
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Just a simple question. is this the update for the new radio and such? Or is it just a fake message? I'm rooted and read up on the new update but was just curious is all
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It's legit. That's the message my wife got on her phone that updated her to the new Rom with sense 3.0. She's not s-off though so she was able to install it. I rooted it for myself to use and I must say it's probably the smoothest gingerbread experience for our phones since all the custom roms are built on dhd base or our buggy gingerbread update.
Okay I'm not a sense fan and still on absolution 3.7 imo its the best rom for our phones but I just was making sure... I think my phones being duped(hacked) so I can't really say if the texts I'm getting are correct or just fakes lol. XD I have traces set up and such in my phone to see if I'm getting mixed stuff xD but thanks guys
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What did you use to root and could you post instructions to root the new ROM from AT&
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It's legit. That's the message my wife got on her phone that updated her to the new Rom with sense 3.0. She's not s-off though so she was able to install it. I rooted it for myself to use and I must say it's probably the smoothest gingerbread experience for our phones since all the custom roms are built on dhd base or our buggy gingerbread update.
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How did you root the update. I had rooted 2.3.3 and now I have 2.3.5 update from AT&T. Totoally removed everything back to square one. I used ACE kit before and it wanted to uninstall and take me back. I like the new ROM, better all around.
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How did you root the update. I had rooted 2.3.3 and now I have 2.3.5 update from AT&T. Totoally removed everything back to square one. I used ACE kit before and it wanted to uninstall and take me back. I like the new ROM, better all around.
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I use dsixda kitchen on ubuntu O.S. just look up dsixda's kitchen on xda if you are curious about how to develop roms.
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I use dsixda kitchen on ubuntu O.S. just look up dsixda's kitchen on xda if you are curious about how to develop roms.
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Thanks. I will be looking into your suggestion
I am a newbee no doubt to this world and an old man from Walla2 living in Chicago area now since 76. I will do as you have suggested....and check out the dsixda kitchen. I do develope, but it is on iSeries systems for back office. This has been fun as well as an eye opener what they do with smart phones.....wife has the iPhone 4s and hates it....but with 17mo left no doubt will convert her over to Android.
My wife got the notice for the update but the phone never connects to upgrade server. It's never been rooted.
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My wife got the notice for the update but the phone never connects to upgrade server. It's never been rooted.
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This happened a few times on my wifes phone before it actually updated. She never rooted either. Just keep trying once every 24 hours. It will start eventually.
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It's legit. That's the message my wife got on her phone that updated her to the new Rom with sense 3.0. She's not s-off though so she was able to install it. I rooted it for myself to use and I must say it's probably the smoothest gingerbread experience for our phones since all the custom roms are built on dhd base or our buggy gingerbread update.
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I got that message this morning. I did the update. Now my phone won't stop resetting. Nothing works any longer. Please help if anyone can. I wish it was back to the way it was before the update.
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I got that message this morning. I did the update. Now my phone won't stop resetting. Nothing works any longer. Please help if anyone can. I wish it was back to the way it was before the update.
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It's normal to keep resetting a bunch during the upgrade. But if it finished and let you into Rom and is resetting then something went wrong. You aren't bricked though so I will tell you how to fix it. Just to be sure, I am assuming you are not s-off since the update actually ran. If you are s-off then just flash cwm through hack kit and install different Rom. If s-on do this. First from a pc download and install HTC sync and make sure it's running. Download the new ruu from HTC to your computer. Now take the battery out of phone. Put battery back making sure not to press the power on accident. Now with battery in hold volume down and tap power button while still holding volume down. You should enter hboot. Select fastboot and plug phone into pc. You will see fastboot USB on phone. Now from the pc run the ruu update and follow the prompts until finished. This will leave you at new stock with no data except what's on sd card.
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I got that message this morning. I did the update. Now my phone won't stop resetting. Nothing works any longer. Please help if anyone can. I wish it was back to the way it was before the update.
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It sounds like you have some app is conflicting. Figure out the exact app, and clear data for that.
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It sounds like you have some app is conflicting. Figure out the exact app, and clear data for that.
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An app doesn't cause the issues he is having. Apps force close themselves not the whole system. He can't even use the phone long enough to remove apps anyways.
Okay this is a fyi , i have been trying to do the AT&T update via WiFi all weekend, and got the the server busy message, so i tried again, same issue, then i turned on my data and WiFi , then i was able to download the update... it is down loading as we speak.
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Okay this is a fyi , i have been trying to do the AT&T update via WiFi all weekend, and got the the server busy message, so i tried again, same issue, then i turned on my data and WiFi , then i was able to download the update... it is down loading as we speak.
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You have to be on WiFi for it to download. They took out the function of doing it over mobile network with the last Rom update. So if anyone else is having issues be sure WiFi is connected.
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You have to be on WiFi for it to download. They took out the function of doing it over mobile network with the last Rom update. So if anyone else is having issues be sure WiFi is connected.
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Wow did you read what i stated ? The updated started after I also turned on my Data , I did have my WiFi on, but only got past the server busy notice after the DATA was turned on......
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With over 700 posts and only 20 thanks I think it speaks for itself. Your what I like to call a pseudo intellectual. Your really hung on your loosely based argument of what name calling means. Your a **** and I'm sure other people in your life think your a **** too. And yes I'll say it again, YOUR A ****! Now stop cluttering threads with your useless bull. No one thinks your cool and your mom hates you too. Lol.
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oh hey there yeah this is my thread that I had posted. Ignorance was not what this was about, it was about a question with the update. It wasn't to be name calling or being ignorant. Also when you refer to someone its "you're" as in you are. Not your. So please take the ignorance and rude comments else where. You haven't answered the main question I had stated so you really shouldn't be posting your silly nonsense moderators you are allowed to close this I got my answer. Thank you in advance
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Pretty sure I hard bricked my Skyrocket

I'm not a noob at this or anything so I'm not sure where I went wrong. I had the newest CWM touch recovery by sk8erwitskill on my Skyrocket and I went into recovery and wiped data, system, and cache. I then flashed AOKP Milestone 6 for the Skyrocket along with Gapps for JB. When I tried to reboot my phone it won't come on at all. No Samsung logo or anything. I pulled the battery and even tried plugging it in and holding down the volume keys and nothing. I am almost certain its hard bricked but if anyone knows a way to fix it I'm willing to try. I also still have warranty left with AT&T since I only got it about 3 weeks ago. The flash counter had never been ticked so I assume they would accept it.
If you've only had it three weeks, I wouldn't waste my time. Take it back, tell them it won't turn on and you don't know why. They should give you a new one, no questions asked.
T.J. Bender said:
If you've only had it three weeks, I wouldn't waste my time. Take it back, tell them it won't turn on and you don't know why. They should give you a new one, no questions asked.
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Not every att shop is nice , some are awful ... or might hand him a refurb
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I'm not a noob at this or anything so I'm not sure where I went wrong. I had the newest CWM touch recovery by sk8erwitskill on my Skyrocket and I went into recovery and wiped data, system, and cache. I then flashed AOKP Milestone 6 for the Skyrocket along with Gapps for JB. When I tried to reboot my phone it won't come on at all. No Samsung logo or anything. I pulled the battery and even tried plugging it in and holding down the volume keys and nothing. I am almost certain its hard bricked but if anyone knows a way to fix it I'm willing to try. I also still have warranty left with AT&T since I only got it about 3 weeks ago. The flash counter had never been ticked so I assume they would accept it.
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You flashed Gapps for JB on an ICS ROM? Not saying that's what got ya. Just curious
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You flashed Gapps for JB on an ICS ROM? Not saying that's what got ya. Just curious
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Well, I flashed the Gapps that GooManager provided for that particular build and during the installation it showed "for Android 4.1.1" in the log so I know the Gapps were for JB but I assumed AOKP Milestone 6 was JB so I didn't think anything of it. Like you said though, I don't see how that would give me a hard brick. I was just in the AT&T store earlier today complaining that my Skyrocket wouldn't recognize my SIM so I doubt I'll have any trouble returning it. I might just get the HTC One X as well. That's another story though.
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Well, I flashed the Gapps that GooManager provided for that particular build and during the installation it showed "for Android 4.1.1" in the log so I know the Gapps were for JB but I assumed AOKP Milestone 6 was JB so I didn't think anything of it. Like you said though, I don't see how that would give me a hard brick. I was just in the AT&T store earlier today complaining that my Skyrocket wouldn't recognize my SIM so I doubt I'll have any trouble returning it. I might just get the HTC One X as well. That's another story though.
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Slightly off topic, but I just went from the one x to the skyrocket, so keep in mind that you'll likely get firmware 2.20 which is unrootable at this point in time and and not being able to expand the memory sucks. I only had about 10gb of free space to play with out of the box. Just wanted to give you a heads up.
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I also hard bricked mine
About five weeks ago or so I did the same thing - trying to get the AOKP jellybean (second release I think) on my skyrocket - it never would work but it was recomended that I go back to the ICS rom then try to go to JB from there (instead of the initial JB release.
So I flashed the AOKP ics rom and when my phone rebooted it shut off and never responded again. It didn't appear to charge or have any capabiilty of turning back on.
I've had my phone since last November and decided to take it to AT&T - they tried a few times then gave up so they called the warranty department who asked me if I had dropped it or gotten it wet; I said no, so they sent me a replacement (probably refurb) and took the dead phone.
The replacement works fine but I don't think I want to risk the AOKP build again.
I'll probably flash CM9 on it (Ive already put clockwork mod on it). I just am a little gunshy right now as I can't afford to replace the phone if it dies and I doubt I'll get so lucky with the warranty department again.
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About five weeks ago or so I did the same thing - trying to get the AOKP jellybean (second release I think) on my skyrocket - it never would work but it was recomended that I go back to the ICS rom then try to go to JB from there (instead of the initial JB release.
So I flashed the AOKP ics rom and when my phone rebooted it shut off and never responded again. It didn't appear to charge or have any capabiilty of turning back on.
I've had my phone since last November and decided to take it to AT&T - they tried a few times then gave up so they called the warranty department who asked me if I had dropped it or gotten it wet; I said no, so they sent me a replacement (probably refurb) and took the dead phone.
The replacement works fine but I don't think I want to risk the AOKP build again.
I'll probably flash CM9 on it (Ive already put clockwork mod on it). I just am a little gunshy right now as I can't afford to replace the phone if it dies and I doubt I'll get so lucky with the warranty department again.
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Wasn't aokp that bricked you, probably a ROM for a different phone
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finalkut said:
The replacement works fine but I don't think I want to risk the AOKP build again.
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Reading your post, I can think of several different possibilities as to how your phone was bricked. AOKP is not one of them. Don't trash developers like that; AOKP is an excellent ROM that a lot of people around here use without any problems.
I don't think he was saying that AOKP is bad and it bricks phones in general, I think he was just claiming there builds for Skyrocket aren't working properly.
Anyway I took it in today and they gave me a replacement no questions asked. I couldn't get the HTC One X without paying the $35 restocking fee and I'm going to save some money and go exchange it later.
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I don't think he was saying that AOKP is bad and it bricks phones in general, I think he was just claiming there builds for Skyrocket aren't working properly.
Anyway I took it in today and they gave me a replacement no questions asked. I couldn't get the HTC One X without paying the $35 restocking fee and I'm going to save some money and go exchange it later.
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"Their" builds are fine. I'm running it now. But I did download the correct ROM for my device. Your download may have been bad maybe?
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My guess is the download was bad. I downloaded it with GooManager and the built in MD5 checker said it was okay, but the download did freeze for a few minutes before completing.
By the way, I wasn't using R4INS' build when the brick happened, it was a build from AOKP's goo.im page. Milestone 6 for Skyrocket it was labeled. Judging from your picture I wasn't sure if you knew what I meant. I'm using the same build as you now and I had in the past as well I just thought maybe their build was different. R4INS' build works great though.
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My guess is the download was bad. I downloaded it with GooManager and the built in MD5 checker said it was okay, but the download did freeze for a few minutes before completing.
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Are you saying u used goo manager to DL and install the ROM, if you did, don't, DL the ROM directly to your sdcsrd then use recovery to install
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I was only using GooManager to download the ROM. I always use CWM to flash manually.
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Yes I agree
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Downgrading to 4.0.4 ICS

Well, I am downgrading to 4.0.4 but I got a couple of questions...
[Q #1] Should I do factory reset before or after downgrading?
[Q #2] Which method is more convenient?
[Q #3] Is it safe to downgrade from 4.1.2 to 4.0.4?
[Q #4] I am rooted. Will it make a conflict after the downgrade? Should I uninstall it?
Thank you for your help. I know I am still a noob but lately I am not comfortable with the OS 4.1.2 and want to have the old version back...
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Well, I am downgrading to 4.0.4 but I got a couple of questions...
[Q #1] Should I do factory reset before or after downgrading?
[Q #2] Which method is more convenient?
[Q #3] Is it safe to downgrade from 4.1.2 to 4.0.4?
[Q #4] I am rooted. Will it make a conflict after the downgrade? Should I uninstall it?
Thank you for your help. I know I am still a noob but lately I am not comfortable with the OS 4.1.2 and want to have the old version back...
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little reading would of helped
read the returning to stock sticky, link in my sig
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little reading would of helped
read the returning to stock sticky, link in my sig
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I know I've seen all of your threads. But I still don't understand a couple of stuff. I would really appreciate if you could answer them.
Read the stickies dude
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Read the stickies dude
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Ok I read them. Now I can't get into Odin mode... I am not pressing the power button and still boots into CWM recovery!
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Ok I read them. Now I can't get into Odin mode... I am not pressing the power button and still boots into CWM recovery!
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1. GETTING PHONE INTO DOWLOAD MODE(aka odin mode):
DO NOT TOUCH THE POWER BUTTON FOR THIS PROCEDURE.
Download mode is NOT the same as recovery mode
a. Remove and Reinsert the battery, have usb cable inserted to computer usb port but NOT to your phone until step (c).
b. ATT PHONES - Press and keep down both Volume Up and Volume Down keys simultaneously.
ROGERS PHONES - Press and keep down only the Volume Down key.
DO NOT RELEASE THE VOLUME KEY(S) UNTIL INSTRUCTED TO DO SO IN STEP (d)
c. While still holding the volume key(s) down insert the USB cable into your device.
The phone will turn itself on when usb cable is inserted. * DO NOT TOUCH THE POWER BUTTON *
d. When You see the screen warning you about installing a rom w/a yellow triangle RELEASE the volume key(s)
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Come on mates! Don't be jerks with him! He is a noob, of course. And your job here is not only develop ROMs and stuff. As part of this great community, you must explain <<Doesn't matter the times you've explained it.>> the newest people how to solve even the most simple problems. You can't expect to teach people with a lot of guides and stuff... They will obviously get confused! It's a simple requirement and doesn't harm anyone! Now, my noob mate, make sure to clean all Data and both Cache and Dalvik (that's the name I think.) before downgrading. I am quite sure that's the problem.
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Come on mates! Don't be jerks with him! He is a noob, of course. And your job here is not only develop ROMs and stuff. As part of this great community, you must explain <<Doesn't matter the times you've explained it.>> the newest people how to solve even the most simple problems. You can't expect to teach people with a lot of guides and stuff... They will obviously get confused! It's a simple requirement and doesn't harm anyone! Now, my noob mate, make sure to clean all Data and both Cache and Dalvik (that's the name I think.) before downgrading. I am quite sure that's the problem.
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This is the problem with XDA these days. XDA is not intended to be a site for people that aren't able to/don't want to teach themselves. This site was founded on the notion that people can and should teach themselves the skills to extricate themselves from the stranglehold of the manufacturers and OS providers. This is a development community full of self-taught gurus who are kind enough to share their work and knowledge with everyone else, with the hope that they carry on the learning tradition. People can't expect to have their hands held when there are perfectly acceptable guides and tutorials for practically every scenario. And note that it is no one's JOB to develop ROMs or offer troubleshooting-people are here because they love the community and development.
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Come on mates! Don't be jerks with him! He is a noob, of course. And your job here is not only develop ROMs and stuff. As part of this great community, you must explain <<Doesn't matter the times you've explained it.>> the newest people how to solve even the most simple problems. You can't expect to teach people with a lot of guides and stuff... They will obviously get confused! It's a simple requirement and doesn't harm anyone! Now, my noob mate, make sure to clean all Data and both Cache and Dalvik (that's the name I think.) before downgrading. I am quite sure that's the problem.
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fail, thats not the reason he cant get into dl mode, the guides are there for a reason, if its been answered and cant follow instructions then hows that not helping, and your answer says to me that u should do a little more reading, cmon its not that hard to do a little research
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This is the problem with XDA these days. XDA is not intended to be a site for people that aren't able to/don't want to teach themselves. This site was founded on the notion that people can and should teach themselves the skills to extricate themselves from the stranglehold of the manufacturers and OS providers. This is a development community full of self-taught gurus who are kind enough to share their work and knowledge with everyone else, with the hope that they carry on the learning tradition. People can't expect to have their hands held when there are perfectly acceptable guides and tutorials for practically every scenario. And note that it is no one's JOB to develop ROMs or offer troubleshooting-people are here because they love the community and development.
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we help because we like to not thats its a requirement, some effort is a requirement to be made by the newbs
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fail, thats not the reason he cant get into dl mode, the guides are there for a reason, if its been answered and cant follow instructions then hows that not helping, and your answer says to me that u should do a little more reading, cmon its not that hard to do a little research.
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Actually... I did what Xeiks told me and it worked. Now I am running OS 4.0.4 ICS. How's that possible Vincom?
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This is the problem with XDA these days. XDA is not intended to be a site for people that aren't able to/don't want to teach themselves. This site was founded on the notion that people can and should teach themselves the skills to extricate themselves from the stranglehold of the manufacturers and OS providers. This is a development community full of self-taught gurus who are kind enough to share their work and knowledge with everyone else, with the hope that they carry on the learning tradition. People can't expect to have their hands held when there are perfectly acceptable guides and tutorials for practically every scenario. And note that it is no one's JOB to develop ROMs or offer troubleshooting-people are here because they love the community and development.
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Well... Then why noobs join? I mean if it's intended for people with knowledge and skills why would noobs join if they wouldn't understand it?
This mate here is asking for something basic for you... But for him, it's kinda complicated. He's trying to learn from you guys... Te best when it's about this S II... Don't give him the link. With a simple "yes" and "no" will be ok. And then you can add the link.
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fail, thats not the reason he cant get into dl mode, the guides are there for a reason, if its been answered and cant follow instructions then hows that not helping, and your answer says to me that u should do a little more reading, cmon its not that hard to do a little research
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I'm not a developer mate. Not a Custom ROM and Android Development Fan. I'm just interested in making my phone better. I didn't read it or learned it. I had the same problems so when I first looked here I saw a comment yours saying "Factory Restore and clean Cache and Dalvik b4 u start" so I tried and it worked.
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TH35KULL said:
Actually... I did what Xeiks told me and it worked. Now I am running OS 4.0.4 ICS. How's that possible Vincom?
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great that u got odin to work.
ive used odin too many times to count and im telling you that nothing in the recovery or android operating system will prevent you from getting into dl mode other than driver issues, user error, bad flash(bricking) or hw failure.
why u succeeded now after wiping.......well it reminds me of daft punk's get lucky song

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