Good Task Killer??? - RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I added question marks because I've often read task killers make things worse.
I'm frustrated because if I add up the sum of running apps and add 200 mb for system it only comes to about 500 mb yet I seldom have more than 90 mb free ram.
It is annoying that apps I use for minutes at a time like amazon, best buy, sports center actually run 24/7. I do use these apps so I hate to freeze them yet they are just wasting ram most of the time. Then there must be about 400 mb worth of apps running in the background that I can't even see.
So my questions include:
Is there an app that will monitor ALL the apps actually running and allow me to choose some I want to allow to run all the time and others I want killed as soon as I exit from them?
if there is such an app does it do more harm than good somehow? Again I have read task killers just mess up the rom although I don't know why.
I am not rooted so running stock jb with nova launcher.
suggestions?
thanks!
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recDNA said:
I added question marks because I've often read task killers make things worse.
I'm frustrated because if I add up the sum of running apps and add 200 mb for system it only comes to about 500 mb yet I seldom have more than 90 mb free ram.
It is annoying that apps I use for minutes at a time like amazon, best buy, sports center actually run 24/7. I do use these apps so I hate to freeze them yet they are just wasting ram most of the time. Then there must be about 400 mb worth of apps running in the background that I can't even see.
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You need to understand that Android manages RAM differently to Windows. Android prefers to utilise as much of it's RAM as possible. Having free RAM won't gain you anything. In fact it will probably slow things down, as Android will try to restart the apps you kill anyway, and that uses CPU.
You shouldn't be concerned with RAM usage. What you should be concerned with is how much CPU those background apps are using. If there are processes that are using any more than about 2% of your CPU when the app should be sleeping (ie, not the current foreground app), that is a problem. An app like Android Assistant will show you that, as will many others. With any misbehaving apps, you could start by killing them, but if the problem reappears, I would be getting rid of them as there are obviously inefficiencies in the programming.
You need to get away from the Windows mindset.
Hope that helps

Well sometimes my ram drops to 0 so that can't be good!
Still, I downloaded that app and 50% of cpu is free so that sounds good. Google+ uses the most (over 2% which is odd since I'm not even enrolled in Google+. That's the social app right? I can't keep the Google apps straight. I do use the one that tells me traffic to work and what's up at the movies.
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Google plus uses a lot of resources. Its the social networking app like Google's version of facebook. if you don't use the app, you can freeze it or delete it and the services like playstore feedback that use your Google plus account still work perfectly fine. Unused RAM is wasted ram and what the user above said is spot on correct, and actually a great explanation. I've never seen task killers do anything but harm. Especially if your phone is ice cream sandwich or newer.
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If I uninstall Google plus will my phone still accept VZW updates?
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recDNA said:
If I uninstall Google plus will my phone still accept VZW updates?
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Yes. You can disable anything and still get updates.
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jfriend33 said:
Yes. You can disable anything and still get updates.
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I heard if vzw bloatware or system apps were frozen it screwed up the update unless u remember to reactivate the apps. before the update (which i would never remember to do).
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[Q] What Hoggs Your Ram?

I would like to know what are your guys readings of RAM usage. Mine sits around 240MB/339MB
Is that high or normal? I do have quite a bit of widgets on different home screens so I dont know what the baseline is. Please share your results.
Good topic I was wondering this myself ...
Average ram I have is about 128MB free out off 339MB
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179mb out of 339
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moshe22 said:
179mb out of 339
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Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.
fknfocused said:
Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.
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No widgets running at the moment though.
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Task MAnagers!?!?!
I'm not sure if i am 100% right about this maybe won of the senior members who does know can enlighten us on this...
But I remember reading somewhere that task managers some times can hurt your phones RAM usage. I don't use one anymore unless it comes stock. and then I rarely find a reason to open it on mine. In standby I am running around 80-100 with 200-300 of freem RAM so with the SGS4G i don't think i will find a reason to use more than the stock utilities. I somtimes will installl a tool to monitor the RAM to see what I'm usin but every once in a while I go through and uninstall anything I don't need right away. I figure ussually being in good internet coverage I can always put something back.
So does anyone else know about wether or not the "Task Manager" could actually be a tantric in some cases?
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No widgets running at the moment though.
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So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.
http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Very good article about task killers
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Bassmanjames said:
So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.
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Well, this is def not the case anymore. I sit around 200MB free. Ever since cwm's final release the doors opened for us. Go get some love
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You shouldn't have to worry too much about RAM usage. A lot of it used by the OS. But yeah widgets does lower it and whatever app you're using. But I hope you don't resort to using task killers just to save 50mb's of RAM. It's there for use and shouldn't be looked at too much.
Mine shows about 400/626, but haven't noticed any big difference in battery drain when it's at 300/626.
Simple answer....everything hogs ram. The best way to tell what's worse is settings » applications » manage applications and watch your ram usage when you have certain things running. You will notice what is hogging more than others.
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Thank you for the info everybody. Been ruinning just fine all day with the ram almost maxed out, hard to break that task manager habit though lol. Goona keep reading before I root-flash-mod need to make sure I get it right the first time.
On the moon our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week
Samsung and Tmo set many bloatware to run ALL the time and hogs RAM
via Linda file manager and auto memory manager (which tweak's android's memory management, not a standard task killer), i saw many apps that always run (many with priority equals to android system and the phone app) such as "wifi calling, visual voice mail, my account, qik, device management, drm, etc.
not everyone use these apps and they take up precious RAM and tiny amount of CPU cycles.
worse, however, is how the phone keeps loading unused, unaccessed, unwanted apps into memory (been weeks since I used pandora, yet it keeps getting reloaded into memory).
from clean boot, I get 150mb free. after a week, I get 45-55mb. This causes memory manager to kill off app as soon as you switch away and alot of stutter (dont you hate it when your browser gets killed)
Dont know if theres a fix for this. I tried tweaking the OOM parameters but it doesnt seem to work on this phone. Samsung probably tweaked something that broke this.

Task killer?

Title says it all. I know with froyo on Samsung phones the devs at sdx said it wasn't useful at all,but with HTC's phones,you see the apps running in the statusbar (I'm running gingerbread,inspired ace BTW) but my question is,will the task killer be useful? I quit using it a long time ago after I noticed a few of my phones battery life slowly getting worse. Any ideas?
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Those are just shortcuts to your recently opened apps. I'm not a big fan of task killers, they seem to make my phone run like crap.
Please have a look at Android Memory Management to get an overview of how android memory management works, be it on any device.
U can use task killer judicially to kill any stray apps.
Well see I kinda knew all that which is why I quit using them,but there's something that's eating the battery up and I deleted all my apps that synced huge amounts of data in the background besides Facebook. Contract killer was one app,after I deleted it I noticed a whole extra 2 hours of battery life each day. No lie. But if I could let go of sense,I'm sure battery would be better but it just wouldn't make sense to have such a great phone without its cool features
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I used to use task killers all the time. After getting my inspire I decided to stop using them. I have noticed no difference in performance other then the random freezes and small issues of that nature went away. I would say your on the right track just try and figure out what apps are causing the trouble. Then go into the settings of your apps that sync data to set the sync less frequently. That should help with your issues.
brd912 said:
Well see I kinda knew all that which is why I quit using them,but there's something that's eating the battery up and I deleted all my apps that synced huge amounts of data in the background besides Facebook. Contract killer was one app,after I deleted it I noticed a whole extra 2 hours of battery life each day. No lie. But if I could let go of sense,I'm sure battery would be better but it just wouldn't make sense to have such a great phone without its cool features
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You don't have to remove sense, just make it quit syncing. See my thread about it for currentwidget log proof.
The only app killer worth even thinking about putting on your phone is, watchdog/watchdog lite. It monitors for stray apps that hog the cpu and run your battery down, other then that they shouldn't be used, no task killer is going to be as efficient as the android operating system itself.
Install "Battery History for GB". This lets u see battery usage in more detail.
E.g., I noticed there was an instance where the GPS sensor was not turned off even after I quit the program GPS status. Though this was a stray instance, I would not have known this without this program. And for this specific issue, only a reboot was the answer.
mudknot2005 said:
The only app killer worth even thinking about putting on your phone is, watchdog/watchdog lite. It monitors for stay apps that hog the cpu and run your battery down, other then that they shouldn't be used, no task killer is going to be as efficient as the android operating system itself.
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I second this. For what it's worth..
Yup. Watchdog for the gross stuff. Elixer has a nifty widget I use in conjunction to easily be notified how many apps are consuming resources and easily FC....I made a 21 icon control panel from elixer widgets that only takes up half a screen to monitor n toggle stuff...that dev has resource management in mind....
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I use ATK but no way am I going to set it to auto kill tasks. I only use it when I notice my phone starts slowing down and being laggy and I have it set to kill only the tasks that do NOT automatically open themselves up again immediately (ie gmail, messaging, maps, pandora, etc). I use it to kill things that are just sitting around pointlessly IF I'm noticing my phone slowing down (just to reiterate ). Hope this helps someone
Yeah I decided to just let the phone do its thing. I just flashed a new Rom and battery life already seems 10 times better.
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nhshah7 said:
I use ATK but no way am I going to set it to auto kill tasks. I only use it when I notice my phone starts slowing down and being laggy ...
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As others said, let Android do it's thing regarding task and memory mgmt and - if you are still concerned - use watchdog.
ATK and other task killers are brilliant battery hogs - mine lasts at least 2h longer since I removed them.
Totally agree task killers are worthless and can cause apps to not work
bigdaddy818818 said:
Totally agree task killers are worthless and can cause apps to not work
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That's if you use them incorrectly and kill apps that automatically reopen. That's what kills the battery. Killing an app that you used 3 hours ago that's still running in memory is actually helpful, etc...
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[Q] Low RAM?

Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery level. these were the apps that i downloaded just before the raam went low. oh and i only have 4 widgets running on my screen. (google search widget, power control widget (the one with options to toggle wifi, bluetooth etc etc on and off), a go taskmanager widget to show me how much ram i have and a music app widget) BTW im rooted running stock 2.1. Hope someone can help me!
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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DarkMD said:
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
androidlover123 said:
oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
eejin2 said:
must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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oh ya i forgot to mention i have already been using autokiller memory optimizer at strict level for a month already. yesterday i changed it to aggressive hoping that my ram would increase but to no avail.
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
eejin2 said:
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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Try to clean cache frequently, that help to
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My suggestion would be to flash the stock Cincinnati bell sbf. I did that recently it is the most updated one from Motorola and is set at 720 MHz by default. I don't use anything and my ram is around 55-60. Smooth as hell. I use launcherpro. Its prettier, you can choose the keep in memory option which stops it from redrawing the screen. Mine is rooted. I get a day and half of battery life with wifi and autosync in 100% of the time, an hour of GPS, 1 hour gaming, one hour music and the odd texts or calls. Hope that helps. Nothing in my opinion beats stock 2.1
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I use CyanogenMod 6 and its pretty nice... i have around 70-80 mb of ram free... btw i have about 25 apps instaled...
Overclock at: 1.1ghz @ 70vsel
Sorry for my bad english jaja
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androidlover123 said:
Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery......
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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spectacle said:
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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I agree..... but there are still several issues to fix.... I'm waiting for the final product..... Great work by Mioze.
abet1017 said:
If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
eejin2 said:
if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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If you are going to do it from scratch, I suggest you use the cincinnati bell sbf. I have had a very good experience with that. Root with universal androot 1.6.2 beta. After that install open recovery and youre set.
i have about 60 applications installed and here a screen shot of a very comon amount of ram i have in mafia wars when done any were from 95 to 110 i have availble for use.

Lag in operation?

Hello,
First few days with Nexus S 4G and love it. I have noticed random lockups or delays in navigating the home screen or applications. I use SPB Shell 3D on my Tab10.1 and used it on my Evo 4G prior to the Nexus. Never really had this querliness and just love the app.
I use Active Apps (pay version) and see my ram gets in the high 200's to the 300+ RAM available. I can clear level 1 and 2 back/foreground processes and that seems the clear up the lag. But thw lowest it goes is low 200's. It is somewhat alarming considering I am not throwing anything at the Nexus that I didn't with the Evo 4G. I figure the newer 1ghz would perform pretty similar.
Was I wrong to assume? Is there something I should be looking out for? Is this a known issue with the phone or current Android version? Is there a work around or fix?
Thanks in advance. I know I could uninstall SPB and ensure that isn't taking up a ton of RAM or isn't the cause of the lag. But thought I'd ask before I undo the hours I took customizing my setup.
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Hello,
First few days with Nexus S 4G and love it. I have noticed random lockups or delays in navigating the home screen or applications. I use SPB Shell 3D on my Tab10.1 and used it on my Evo 4G prior to the Nexus. Never really had this querliness and just love the app.
I use Active Apps (pay version) and see my ram gets in the high 200's to the 300+ RAM available. I can clear level 1 and 2 back/foreground processes and that seems the clear up the lag. But thw lowest it goes is low 200's. It is somewhat alarming considering I am not throwing anything at the Nexus that I didn't with the Evo 4G. I figure the newer 1ghz would perform pretty similar.
Was I wrong to assume? Is there something I should be looking out for? Is this a known issue with the phone or current Android version? Is there a work around or fix?
Thanks in advance. I know I could uninstall SPB and ensure that isn't taking up a ton of RAM or isn't the cause of the lag. But thought I'd ask before I undo the hours I took customizing my setup.
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why don't you just do a titanium backup of the application settings and then remove it? i'm 99% sure that is the cause of the problem...
Ill look into it. I use Mybackup Pro but don't think it takes on app data. I thought Titianium requires root but ill check. so far its not hindered performance but ive tried to watch RAM levels and services via Active Applicationa program.
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[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM

I updated my atrix 2 with official ICS update 672.1.18.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 but found it to eat up all my RAM, normally i always had atleast 450-500mb free in normal state with the backgroud processes on, but after loading ICS i found my free RAM to be only 190mb-230mb. Does anyone face similar problem or know how how to rectify it???? I even uninstalled some of the Apps which work in background to get some of RAM back so i can play graphics heavy games, but it didn't help. Senior members please guide
rock12316 said:
I updated my atrix 2 with official ICS update 672.1.18.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 but found it to eat up all my RAM, normally i always had atleast 450-500mb free in normal state with the backgroud processes on, but after loading ICS i found my free RAM to be only 190mb-230mb. Does anyone face similar problem or know how how to rectify it???? I even uninstalled some of the Apps which work in background to get some of RAM back so i can play graphics heavy games, but it didn't help. Senior members please guide
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GB software was/is very stable and has great performance, so it’s not a bad idea for some to stay on this release until the official OTA has been pushed and tested by the devs to check the possibilities for flashing back to GB - if at all. ICS is more intensive, for example, in terms of resource usage. As smartphones become more capable, our own applications, as well as the Google Mobile Services (GMS) applications, are becoming more advanced, which means that they require more CPU power, run more network activities and use more RAM, and full hardware acceleration also results in a need to load additional graphic libraries for certain apps, which makes them use even more RAM.
Another effect of the hardware acceleration is that it can make the battery drain faster in some cases. An example of this is video playback, where the hardware acceleration requires every video frame to be run through the GPU, thus making the system use more power than it would have without HW acceleration.
Out of your RAM, about a third is used for functions that require a dedicated memory allotment to operate fast enough. For example, this is the case for certain multimedia functions. The remaining space, is reserved for the Android OS. Within the Android OS, functions like the activity manager and Home screen app are running.
When running low on RAM, typically with less than approximately 40MB left, the activity manager will start to close processes according to priority. At first, idle background activities are killed. The last thing to be closed down is the foreground activity.
Processes that are closed will obviously have to be restarted when the user enters the app again, which takes time and slows the system down. For example, when running a heavy game that uses all available RAM, the activity manager will be forced to kill all processes running in the background. This might include vital functions like the dialler and even the Home screen application. When you exit your game, there is a risk that the phone is perceived as slow, since the Home screen app will have to be restarted, just like every other activity you access afterwards.
Another interesting thing is that many apps use slightly more RAM in ICS. For example, the web browser is quite intensive, and uses 20-30MB more in ICS compared to GB. All in all, there are a lot of changes that together result in greater RAM requirements, and resource usage in ICS is heavier on the system compared to GB.
I've found that Android runs fine without having much free ram, if you think about it logically there is no need for free ram, if every bit of your ram is going to something then everything is going to work fine. My G2 has 366mb ram, about 40 of that is free right now, but the system still runs smoothly (mostly due to my 1.3ghz overclock), and I can multitask and play games just fine, Android manages memory very well. Keeping an eye on free ram isn't important, you should be worried if things start closing and the OS starts running very slowly tho. Is there more free ram with some of the mods in the development section? SCV7 and stuff?
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
Archmag3 said:
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
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Good point, the bloatware and blurware definitely bogs down the phone, happens on pretty much all phones with manufacturer skins. Which is why CM and AOSP is so awesome.
How does Jb compare to the memory useage of ics? Will it be better?
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how is the battery life on ics? better or less than GB???
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How does Jb compare to the memory useage of ics? Will it be better?
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I wouldn't hold your breath for JB on this device. I mean, for gripe's sake, look how long it's taking to get ICS for the A2. But, aside from this phone, CM10 on my S3 is flawless, I have absolutely no complaints. This phone, and this ROM, are perfection...
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i asked about gingerbread sir......comparison of battery life
For me i guess battery is draining just a little lesser in ICS than GB. Difference is not very huge but there its a slight improvement...also you can disable few background tasks...
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i have a similar problem but ...
i recently just flashed the ICS Supercharged rom and each time i boot up there is a notification that says " Low on Space". well i read around forums and they were talking about not having enough RAM, i am also running ICS leak and i am using bootmenu to keep both kinda like a Virtual Box. Could i solve this problem ?
Archmag3 said:
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
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surprisingly this OTA release is clean and neat with less such stock apps.. and if you want there is an option in the manage application (Settings -> Apps -> ALL) to "Disable" any such stock aps. I've disabled a few annoying running service for me, News and Weather, Facebook, Face Unlock, Social Location, Task etc..
Polycap said:
i recently just flashed the ICS Supercharged rom and each time i boot up there is a notification that says " Low on Space". well i read around forums and they were talking about not having enough RAM, i am also running ICS leak and i am using bootmenu to keep both kinda like a Virtual Box. Could i solve this problem ?
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I believe you have to format the webtop partition if you're using it for the 2nd system. I did that and had plenty of free space.
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Battery life on ics is actually pretty good.. Running on sc7 leak 2 and my bat life for some reason has greatly improved compared to when I was on GB
would that mess up with my webtop
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I believe you have to format the webtop partition if you're using it for the 2nd system. I did that and had plenty of free space.
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would that still enable me to use my webtop
And The task manager which we had in gb is gone. That could do auto kills which was great.
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