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Force Stop vs task Manager

Hi,
I occassionally kill an app to free up resources via the built in HTC task manager. But, i also noticed that under the manage apps menu, when you click on an app, some of them allow you to press force stop if they are running.
I am confused though, becaue for example i never use slacker or google maps, yet these 2 apps give me the option to force stop. yet, some apps i use frequently do not have the force stop option (its greyed out).
Thanks

Freeze or remove the apps that you don't use, as long as they're not system apps. Check and be sure you know what it does before removing. Task manager apps are not really needed for Android 2.2+. I use the one in the pull down on occasions when I know my phone will be on stand-by for a while so nothing is running in the bg. You should be good. TiB is good for removing and freezing apps, but if you don't wanna pay, you can always disable them via adb.
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Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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dr.m0x said:
Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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I sometimes find myself wanting to kill an app that leaves GPS running, etc...

dr.m0x said:
Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.

DJouneyt said:
Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
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Basically anything Android 2.2+ handles applications. Closes them after the appropriate period of time. Ends all processes related to the app unless it had a background service that runs.
Task killer abruptly shuts down the app and doesn't let the Android OS do the job. Earlier on 1.5/1.6 days it was definitely needed because Android didn't handle it as well.
If you have to force stop or task kill make sure your task killer isn't set to auto kill. Also I do kill apps occasionally via Force Stop when the app isn't working. Usually facebook app does this at times or words with friends.

DJouneyt said:
Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
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It isn't really necessary to "free up resources" in Android. Apps that have been dormant for some time or are unnecessary are closed automatically when memory is required. Often apps that are force closed will simply be reopened by the system, which actually has a negative impact on battery life.

Ok I been using advance task killer since I got android I'm using 2.3.4 I have auto kill on 30mins I use it to save battery, are u guys telling me i don't need it?
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relldroid said:
Ok I been using advance task killer since I got android I'm using 2.3.4 I have auto kill on 30mins I use it to save battery, are u guys telling me i don't need it?
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You most definitely do not need it.

[Q] Background running services and data - any way to control these evil programs?

I don't know if out G2x can get chocked on the many programs that one can be running today. But I am assuming that managing RAM is always a good idea.
Any software that can tell me about RAM usage (in details) so I can chose to disable some programs or chose not to use these?
I see that facebook alone can take like 50MB of RAM. What???
But maybe I am mistaken about all of these and in today's world there is no need to keep these in check?
Thanks

If your rooted you can use droidwall to control what apps use data you can use startup pro to stop certain apps to startup on boot.
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With Titanium or root uninstaller you can freeze apps
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Get the app watchdog light it warns you for data hungry apps. And battery draining apps
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[Q] irritating star notfications

since updating my adobe apps I've started gettting irritating junk notifications, not email or text, in the form of a star on the notifications bar.
i have checked running apps etc... but cannot see how to stop these pests.
anyone know how i turn it off?
thanks
david

Hi yes, try ad blocker, or ad away, both apps are designed to stop those ads. I use ad away, it works good. Or you can find out which app is the cause and delete it. But if you don't know , use the ad blocking app. It's easy to use and works well. Hope this is helpful. Best wishes
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It sounds like you're describing airpush ads coming from some free app or game. Get Airpush Detector or another similar app off the Play store to find the culprit and uninstall it.

thanks guys.
traced it to 'flash open view' or something like that.
had reinstalled my apps and must have put this on by mistake instad of flash 11
now sorted

What happens when i free ram ?????!!

Each time i free the ram , i cant receive whatsapp messeges (until i re open whtsapp) even widgets stop (hd widget the clock freezes on the time i free the ram until i reopen hd widget) on samsungs it doesnt hellllllp plz
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khäled.M said:
Each time i free the ram , i cant receive whatsapp messeges (until i re open whtsapp) even widgets stop (hd widget the clock freezes on the time i free the ram until i reopen hd widget) on samsungs it doesnt hellllllp plz
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How are you freeing the RAM? I don't personally use whatsapp but I know some instant messaging apps (such as Touch) use a dedicated service for push notifications. By "killing all" you might be killing a service which is running in the background and notifying you when you receive messages.
When whatsapp is working - if you go to Settings > Apps > Running, is there a whatsapp entry listed?

"what happens when I free ram" - You kill all the background apps and free their resources.
This means that stuff like whatsapp and clocks might stop working untill they are restarted.
Most decent task killers have a feature to 'protect' apps of your choice, which means these tasks wont be killed (and, obviously, wont give you their ram usage back).

But on samsung mobiles it doesnt
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Not sure why it wouldn't be the same with Samsung phones, but I mean really, this phone has a whole gigabyte of RAM. I think without killing tasks the phone can still handle itself
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JN3141 said:
Not sure why it wouldn't be the same with Samsung phones, but I mean really, this phone has a whole gigabyte of RAM. I think without killing tasks the phone can still handle itself
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1GB is nothing
My TF101 is constantly out of memory haha, the S is not far behind :silly:

Well maybe cuz I'm on cyanogenmod, I have like 400+ mb of RAM at pretty much all times, and that's plenty for me
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[App] Greenify *Root*

Note: This is not my app. This app is by Oasis Feng
Update: I think the link to the app thread by developer would be this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
There is a new app in play store called Greenify. This app is only for rooted users. This app is similar to the freeze option we find in Titanium Backup Pro, but does the job in a much better way - it puts the app to hibernation.
Key features include:
1. You can add the apps to list which you want to hibernate
2. After the app is added to list, Greenify does the rest of the job.
3. No need to manually hibernate and de-hinbernate (like we manually freeze and unfreeze in TB Pro)
To use Greenify follow the steps below:
1. Open Greenify and give SU permission
2. Add the app to list in the built in recent app list or if you want to add app manually then choose more and open the desired app from list and tap on Greenify in notification bar.
3. In the main screen of Greenify you will see the apps that are currently running under "pending" category.
4. Now turn off the screen and wait for 2-5 minutes. Open Greenify again and you would see that, all the apps added to list are movee to "hibernated" category. All these apps are as good as frozen/uninstalled.
When the apps are in hibernated, they don't run in foreground nor in background. This will help in saving the battery and also increase the performance of the device.
I could test this by adding WhatsApp to the list in Greenify and later when WhatsApp went to hibernation mode I did not receive any of the messages in it (as good as the app not running). Then once I opened Whatsapp, it was our of hibernation and I received all my pending messages. Voila!
Note 1: you cannot add the system apps to the list. Greenify gives a message stating "Sorry, system apps are impossible to be greenified due to safety reason". Who wants to hibernate system apps anyways.
Note 2: Like the app description says in play store, it's not advised to put IM, Alarm clock apps and other apps that you rely heavily on for it to be running in background.
Note 3: You can send the pending app to hibernation immediately by tapping the app in list and tapping the pause icon.
Suggested list of apps that to be hibernated:
1. Facebook (take that FB!)
2. Google Maps (install as user app)
3. Any other rouge app which you wish to keep but keeps on popping up as background process. You tell me.
Weirdly I could think of only two apps! So share your list here. Thanks.
So this is really a very useful app which I feel would increase the milage of the device in long run. Kudos to the developer!
Play store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
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Great APP. Thank you.

I often wondered what it took to be a recognized contributor.
Now I know. You have to spam an irrelevant forum with an advert for an app.

oinkylicious said:
I often wondered what it took to be a recognized contributor.
Now I know. You have to spam an irrelevant forum with an advert for an app.
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I in no way advertising this app. I found the app to be useful and worth sharing it. And I did not develop this app, nor did anyone pay me to advertise it.
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oinkylicious said:
I often wondered what it took to be a recognized contributor.
Now I know. You have to spam an irrelevant forum with an advert for an app.
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We got a bad ass over here. Perhaps this is the wrong forum but the app is damn useful.
I has a sig

Thanks for sharing with us all. :good:

I tested it, and it works well.
Maybe excepted for Google Maps which keep coming in running apps even if put in the 'hibernated' list.
But that's a great app, I'll give it a try the next couple of days.

i know you said this app works better than freezing/unfreezing via TiBu but how is it better? This apps sounds like its the same thing. Just curious...

nyydynasty said:
i know you said this app works better than freezing/unfreezing via TiBu but how is it better? This apps sounds like its the same thing. Just curious...
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The OP said that it automatically do so (freeze/unfreeze) which makes it unique. In TB you always have to do this manually whenever you plan to use an app after freezing it.
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If i greenify, no more push notifications right? Would be nice for Facebook, i could get rid of them if i could just use the app without it eating all my battery
EDIT: How about keyboards?

nyydynasty said:
i know you said this app works better than freezing/unfreezing via TiBu but how is it better? This apps sounds like its the same thing. Just curious...
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Testing this, I'm fed up freezing apps then un freezing them when I need them. Play store doesn't show updates for frozen apps. Could be promising as apps are hibernated and run only when you need them. Best of all worlds of it works.
Pressing more exits the app at the moment
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So far, i hibernated whatsapp, facebook and twitter. I don't care about push notifications, but this works real nice! They are not running (background, cache, anywhere) so it gives me more RAM (specially you, facebook) and i can open em with no problems, no errors or nothing. Great app!

How's your increase in battery life?
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gsw5700 said:
Testing this, I'm fed up freezing apps then un freezing them when I need them. Play store doesn't show updates for frozen apps. Could be promising as apps are hibernated and run only when you need them. Best of all worlds of it works.
Pressing more exits the app at the moment
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Pressing more exit the app so you can choose whichever app you wanna hibernate. You can see in the notification
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Initial impression is that this is very promising, can't wait to test further.

AW: [App] Greenify *Root*
I'm using the ViperS rom on a HTC Sensation and greenify doesn't ask for root so I can't hibernate maps. I get a error message there.
ViperS uses a special superuser app, how can make it work?

Sprint82 said:
I'm using the ViperS rom on a HTC Sensation and greenify doesn't ask for root so I can't hibernate maps. I get a error message there.
ViperS uses a special superuser app, how can make it work?
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You can try installing SuperSU app from market.. Then give SuprerSU su permission with special superuser app. From this point on you SuperSU app will be used to grant su permission. Greenify will support SuperSU.
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Loving it! Don't have to defrost the app every time I want to use it, but can still stop it from running when not using it.
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Hi dev. Please, could you add a option to ignore the fact that some apps are system ones? Sony has some apps that are media related, and even Facebook, that comes with software, that ate safe to hibernation.
Cheers.
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Felimenta97 said:
Hi dev. Please, could you add a option to ignore the fact that some apps are system ones? Sony has some apps that are media related, and even Facebook, that comes with software, that ate safe to hibernation.
Cheers.
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Dev won't be following this thread AFAIK. You can contact him at [email protected]
About hibernating system apps, since you are already rooted you can convert few apps like Facebook and other Sony apps which are media related to user apps with help of a titanium backup. This will enable you in hibernating them.
Take due care when converting Sony apps to user apps though.
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