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Advanced task killer not killing everything?

Came from an x10, where every app would close when i ran atk...now gbaroid, pandora, last.fm, all stay running... whats up?
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It seems that the API for killing tasks has changed under Froyo. According to other task killers I've used, you can no longer directly kill an app from another app. Only the 'settings' page can do that.
I generally use Free Advanced Task Manager. It will "attempt" to kill the background process of the app, but admits this is not reliable. Otherwise it will take you to the Application Management tab of the specific app your are trying to kill and let you manually kill it from there.
Also note that there is no consensus that killing apps to free memory makes your device faster. By caching programs in memory, android is able to execute them faster when called upon. By killing them, you are forcing the OS to reload them (slower) when needed).
You might be better served by looking into some of the tweaks out there that set the memory management system of the OS into a more aggressive mode. The proper settings will find a nice balance between killing off apps/free memory, and letting the cache system take care of itself.

KILL the TASK KILLER.....

If you can kill the task you can force close it. Long hold on the app, then select force close and it should do the trick. Ive had that issue too but force closing should work with most apps.
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Is there a way to make a shortcut to the default app manager?
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kdkinc said:
KILL the TASK KILLER.....
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Agreed, Task killers are a total waste in the Android environment. I've found over the years my devices runs better, faster, and has better battery life when I stopped using a Task killer.

will2live said:
Agreed, Task killers are a total waste in the Android environment. I've found over the years my devices runs better, faster, and has better battery life when I stopped using a Task killer.
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This is correct. The "nervous system" (so to speak) is built on process management. I'll try to explain it as quickly and as plainly as I can
On a computer and some other devices, you want to close an application when you are finished with them, because a running program will continue to draw on system resources even when you aren't using it. This is not the case with Android. When an app is not running/in use (best example: pandora. running=on the screen, in use=streaming music in the background), it is in a "frozen" state. While the app appears to be taking up memory, the allocated space isn't actually being used. Instead, it's reserved for that application. So while the memory is not "free", it is also NOT being used constantly.
Task killers are useful if you download an app that causes your system to slow, that way you can kill it then remove it. But most apps are going to open themselves back up in a few minutes anyway, and they are designed to do so.
Summary: over a long period of time, frequent task killing will drain more battery than it saves.

The5ickne55 said:
Is there a way to make a shortcut to the default app manager?
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long press on blank homescreen>shortcuts>settings>manage applications

Why are task killers so bad?

I'm just curious. There are 4 apps I want to kill upon bootup.
ATT Family Map
ATT navigator
ATT hotspots
Asphalt
I don't use them and dont want them loading.
So what would be wrong with using something like Advanced Task Killer to do that?
Also on a side note. The captivate comes with a really nice task manager which I thought made it really easy to just shut down a program you aren't using at the moment.
Is there an easy way to install that on the inspire without rooting? Or is there something just like that in the market?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963478
shutting down an app generally causes it to simply reopen itself. theres a link about taskillers in the thread i linked. a good read.

From my understanding it was mainly caused from killing system processes that kept coming back.
I doubt the ATT programs would restart once closed cause are not being used. They just start when the phone boots.
As far as asphalt. Why a racing game would auto start upon boot is beyond me.
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You will have to root in order to keep Apps from restarting. Use titanium backup to freeze them.
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apps running in the back ground don't use your battery. Apps that go crazy and randomly use 50%-60% of your CPU kill you battery. If you must have a some sort of task killer download Watchdog lite off of app market. It will tell you which apps are overusing your CPU and give you the option to kill them. Keep in mind that android naturally kills a background process when it needs the space.

mudknot2005 said:
apps running in the back ground don't use your battery. Apps that go crazy and randomly use 50%-60% of your CPU kill you battery. If you must have a some sort of task killer download Watchdog lite off of app market. It will tell you which apps are overusing your CPU and give you the option to kill them. Keep in mind that android naturally kills a background process when it needs the space.
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Thanks for the info.

apps in background without ever opening

So I noticed this the other day going through my running apps. Upon a reboot, without opening any apps, I noticed that half my app drawer was open. So I manually forced stopped all of them, which naturally quickened my phone and seemed to help battery. I just don't understand why this is happening?
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Common problem with Android, I had same problem with every Android device I've had. That's why we have task killer apps, though this is something the OS should do anyways
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It isn't a problem with android. It is the way android works. It keeps things ready to be opened if needed. If you close them manually they will just restart using up memory and your battery. Task killers aren't good for much except in rare cases of force closing crashed apps.
And this should probably be in the general section not development.
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My bad, I put it here cuz I thought it may have been because I'm rooted running debloat. Never had that problem on my dx or if I did I didnt notice. Anyway thanks for the responses
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adamd1169 said:
It isn't a problem with android. It is the way android works. It keeps things ready to be opened if needed. If you close them manually they will just restart using up memory and your battery. Task killers aren't good for much except in rare cases of force closing crashed apps.
And this should probably be in the general section not development.
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see I don't agree with that at all. When using froyo, task killers are a must. And these apps don't just "reopen" if I kill them all in my task killer and come back 20 mins later, maybe an app or two has opened, but not the 30 when my phone first boots.
Gingerbread is a whole different story.

Yeah I notice when using task killers my battery life is drastically increased. And has been with all 6 Android phones I have had. And if those app running don't drain battery why do most Verizon employees install task killer for u at purchase?
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thetwiztidfreak said:
And if those app running don't drain battery why do most Verizon employees install task killer for u at purchase?
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Because the retail-monkeys are morons and don't know any better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688513

I use an app called Autorun Manager. It will tell you which apps automatically start and lets you disable them. The nice thing - it tells you which one's are self-restarters. Don't disable them because they will restart & slowly kill your battery as they fight the killing (just as they would any other task manager).

strongergravity said:
I use an app called Autorun Manager. It will tell you which apps automatically start and lets you disable them. The nice thing - it tells you which one's are self-restarters. Don't disable them because they will restart & slowly kill your battery as they fight the killing (just as they would any other task manager).
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Now that sounds like a useful app will have to check it out thx.
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thetwiztidfreak said:
Common problem with Android, I had same problem with every Android device I've had. That's why we have task killer apps, though this is something the OS should do anyways
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Completely, 100% inaccurate....this is not a "problem", it is the way the OS is supposed to operate. This isn't Windows, it's linux.
Okay, maybe not 100% inaccurate. There are the occasional rogue apps that you'll improve performance on by killing them, but they're not the rule.
Along with Autorun Manager to stop apps from opening on start, I'd suggest using AutoKiller Memory Manager from the same author: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
Probably the worst named app ever, because it makes people think it is something that it isn't. It's not a task killer, per se, it's a way to tweak the settings in Android that control Android's own memory management scheme. MinFreeManager is another one. If your handy with the terminal, you can do the same with a cat command.
For a much better explanation of how Android works in this regard, check out this blog post: http://www.androidcentral.com/fine-tuning-minfree-settings-improving-androids-multi-tasking

distortedloop said:
Along with Autorun Manager to stop apps from opening on start, I'd suggest using AutoKiller Memory Manager from the same author: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
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Yeah...I forgot about AutoKiller...I've had Gingerbread on my Eris for the last 3 months

Im Rooted!... Now my apps are always on?

So I rooted this sucker yesterday and have noticed that once I have rooted my apps are always opening on their own... What gives? When I say opening on their own, every time I open task killer their are a ton of apps that are opened that i never even touched. And after I kill them they start showing back up automatically. Also advanced task killer will not kill itself any more I have to manually close the program... anyone else experiencing this? Anyone know how to make it stop?

Stop using task killers would be a good start. You are actually slowing your phone down
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Yes sir, task killers are a joke. Android is the best task management you can have.
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Task killers are a bad idea. Let android deal with the memory management itself, there is no need for an app to do this. The apps you are seeing aren't really "apps," they are services, and they were designed to run in the background to deal with certain things. Ditch the task manger and don't worry about the running services unless something is misbehaving.

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Another task killer bites the dust... Sweet!

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Android has always opened your apps in the background when it feels it wants to. Nothing to do with root, just the way android works.

RogerPodacter said:
Android has always opened your apps in the background when it feels it wants to. Nothing to do with root, just the way android works.
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Not when it wants to lol, when an app starts a background service. If you want to disable auto run apps on startup check out autostarts. A root app which can stop apps from opening on their own at boot. Some things you don't need to run on boot, if it doesn't have push notifications and it's not something you use regularly no need for it to open and you can disable it to speed up boot.

mjones1052 said:
Not when it wants to lol, when an app starts a background service. If you want to disable auto run apps on startup check out autostarts. A root app which can stop apps from opening on their own at boot. Some things you don't need to run on boot, if it doesn't have push notifications and it's not something you use regularly no need for it to open and you can disable it to speed up boot.
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no actually android loads up groups of apps at one time, when it thinks it might be needed by the user. open system panel and go thru and check, i have 5-7 apps, all started at say 5:07pm, and were never opened by me. but they are cached in the background. its been this way for a long time.

Stop using a task killer, android... oh wait...

How can I disable apps from autorunning instead of constantly killing them?

Can I disable qwikvid, market, and all the otherstuff that seems to run on its own without having to constantly go into a task manager to kill those apps?

Depends on app, if system doesn't use it, use titanium backup to freeze it.

I think this should be in the Q&A section. But answering your question, I don't think there's a way to stop an app from running randomly, except in events such as boot. You may wanna check out the app called Autostart in the market. You should keep in mind though that task killers do more harm than good. Android's memory management on 2.3 and up is very efficient.
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I wouldn't recommend AutoStarts, never worked for me.
Anyways, to answer your question, there should be settings within those apps to disable them from auto-running. If there isn't and the app is misbehaving you can either determine if you want to keep the app, and freeze it, or uninstall it.
As far as I know, market will autorun if you have apps set to update automatically, or if you have background data enabled it will run to check for updates. Haven't figured out how to stop that one yet.
And I don't personally use qwikvid, but isn't that the wifi calling app? If so, it's probably autorunning to make sure your phone is available to handle calls, probably used as a push notification type thing.

donatello88 said:
I think this should be in the Q&A section. But answering your question, I don't think there's a way to stop an app from running randomly, except in events such as boot. You may wanna check out the app called Autostart in the market. You should keep in mind though that task killers do more harm than good. Android's memory management on 2.3 and up is very efficient.
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So am I to assume that freezing those apps wont give me any tangible benefit?

DerangedGoose said:
So am I to assume that freezing those apps wont give me any tangible benefit?
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Depends. If you want to use those apps, than freezing will sort of uninstall them (it actually sort of deactivates them). They are unusable once frozen and can only be used again if you unfreeze them. This is used usually for apps that come pre installed on the phone that you are not gonna use.
I don't think there's a way to stop an app from randomly starting. It's just how it works on Android. I wouldn't worry about this too much. As I said, Google has done a good job on memory management.
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You can revoke start on boot permissions for the app if you're on cm 7. That should do the trick.