So I rooted this sucker yesterday and have noticed that once I have rooted my apps are always opening on their own... What gives? When I say opening on their own, every time I open task killer their are a ton of apps that are opened that i never even touched. And after I kill them they start showing back up automatically. Also advanced task killer will not kill itself any more I have to manually close the program... anyone else experiencing this? Anyone know how to make it stop?
Stop using task killers would be a good start. You are actually slowing your phone down
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Yes sir, task killers are a joke. Android is the best task management you can have.
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Task killers are a bad idea. Let android deal with the memory management itself, there is no need for an app to do this. The apps you are seeing aren't really "apps," they are services, and they were designed to run in the background to deal with certain things. Ditch the task manger and don't worry about the running services unless something is misbehaving.
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Another task killer bites the dust... Sweet!
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Android has always opened your apps in the background when it feels it wants to. Nothing to do with root, just the way android works.
RogerPodacter said:
Android has always opened your apps in the background when it feels it wants to. Nothing to do with root, just the way android works.
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Not when it wants to lol, when an app starts a background service. If you want to disable auto run apps on startup check out autostarts. A root app which can stop apps from opening on their own at boot. Some things you don't need to run on boot, if it doesn't have push notifications and it's not something you use regularly no need for it to open and you can disable it to speed up boot.
mjones1052 said:
Not when it wants to lol, when an app starts a background service. If you want to disable auto run apps on startup check out autostarts. A root app which can stop apps from opening on their own at boot. Some things you don't need to run on boot, if it doesn't have push notifications and it's not something you use regularly no need for it to open and you can disable it to speed up boot.
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no actually android loads up groups of apps at one time, when it thinks it might be needed by the user. open system panel and go thru and check, i have 5-7 apps, all started at say 5:07pm, and were never opened by me. but they are cached in the background. its been this way for a long time.
Stop using a task killer, android... oh wait...
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I use advanced task killer and minutes later I see MP3 Store, and Messages running. Before I saw a few others. Are they set to start running in memory for some reason? Not sure if they eat up much juice, but I wonder if I can make a list of certain ones and disable their start up somehow. Is there a task killter that blocks startups?
same here we need something to block these apps
Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
jeffrimerman said:
Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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yeah, that is a great idea. I imagine if I wanted it back I could just install it again. Thanks Codemonk.
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
it actually does, as well as lets the battery last longer since it isnt using as much processing power
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
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Let the phone run for a good 12 hours. I was down to 42MB free basically idling and only using Handcent. Killed a few tasks and back up to 175 and everything is snappy again.
I don't like having to use a task killer, I didn't have to with my N1.
maybe there will be an app like Scotty for windows 7. I check and a bunch of bloatware starts on it's own. It's all marketing bs. When there is a nice root stripped down, with all the nice stuff enabled I'll do that.
download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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So if I leave it to no apps, will it load up with 0 apps running? Will it also prevent apps from randomly starting after phone is already on? Sounds like a nice app.
Unless startup auditor disables the service there is a list of apps that will randomly start up at times. I went into the application settings and apps like MP3 store don't have an option to uninstall.
I have used task killer to kill all apps and within minutes some start again.
"thecodemonk" why do you not use a task killer. I have only had an Android phone about 24 hours now and got a lot to learn.
First thing being how to enable tethering.
I have mine set to "safe" and it auto closes things when screen goes black.
Make sure you "IGNORE" certain apps... like the clock or else your alarm wont work... I almost over slept
I have the following set to ignore:
Messages
Handcent
clock
gmail
Mort Music player
Fastbright
Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
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I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
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It is in market, search "autokiller". Requires root access, but I can confirm it is working fine.
Wanted to add that I am annoyed by programs that I never intend to use running in the background. From recovery I used Android Commander to quickly select and delete every .apk in /system/app that I never wanted to see again.
Helo guys saw this topic and was over at androidcentral and saw this article which talks about an app that would kill any app that autostarts.
won't let me post links as i'm a new user, but go to androidcentral and look for the article about the app autostarts or just google "autostarts"
using task panel to kill the "junk" like amazon and mp3 store- also any program that doesnt attach itself to things like facebook or messages - i use skyfire so i have set that to autokill but leave the "internet" running..
i also use this to switch between apps running.. having to hit back back back or even going to home then program list then finding it is a long process.. for example ...
i get a handcent message - go into the threaded sms- type and im done - holding down the home screen doesnt pop all the programs up - therfor i set task panel up to stay on my status bar and hit it then go to the program i want.
I'm just curious. There are 4 apps I want to kill upon bootup.
ATT Family Map
ATT navigator
ATT hotspots
Asphalt
I don't use them and dont want them loading.
So what would be wrong with using something like Advanced Task Killer to do that?
Also on a side note. The captivate comes with a really nice task manager which I thought made it really easy to just shut down a program you aren't using at the moment.
Is there an easy way to install that on the inspire without rooting? Or is there something just like that in the market?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963478
shutting down an app generally causes it to simply reopen itself. theres a link about taskillers in the thread i linked. a good read.
From my understanding it was mainly caused from killing system processes that kept coming back.
I doubt the ATT programs would restart once closed cause are not being used. They just start when the phone boots.
As far as asphalt. Why a racing game would auto start upon boot is beyond me.
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You will have to root in order to keep Apps from restarting. Use titanium backup to freeze them.
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apps running in the back ground don't use your battery. Apps that go crazy and randomly use 50%-60% of your CPU kill you battery. If you must have a some sort of task killer download Watchdog lite off of app market. It will tell you which apps are overusing your CPU and give you the option to kill them. Keep in mind that android naturally kills a background process when it needs the space.
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apps running in the back ground don't use your battery. Apps that go crazy and randomly use 50%-60% of your CPU kill you battery. If you must have a some sort of task killer download Watchdog lite off of app market. It will tell you which apps are overusing your CPU and give you the option to kill them. Keep in mind that android naturally kills a background process when it needs the space.
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Thanks for the info.
So I noticed this the other day going through my running apps. Upon a reboot, without opening any apps, I noticed that half my app drawer was open. So I manually forced stopped all of them, which naturally quickened my phone and seemed to help battery. I just don't understand why this is happening?
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Common problem with Android, I had same problem with every Android device I've had. That's why we have task killer apps, though this is something the OS should do anyways
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It isn't a problem with android. It is the way android works. It keeps things ready to be opened if needed. If you close them manually they will just restart using up memory and your battery. Task killers aren't good for much except in rare cases of force closing crashed apps.
And this should probably be in the general section not development.
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My bad, I put it here cuz I thought it may have been because I'm rooted running debloat. Never had that problem on my dx or if I did I didnt notice. Anyway thanks for the responses
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It isn't a problem with android. It is the way android works. It keeps things ready to be opened if needed. If you close them manually they will just restart using up memory and your battery. Task killers aren't good for much except in rare cases of force closing crashed apps.
And this should probably be in the general section not development.
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see I don't agree with that at all. When using froyo, task killers are a must. And these apps don't just "reopen" if I kill them all in my task killer and come back 20 mins later, maybe an app or two has opened, but not the 30 when my phone first boots.
Gingerbread is a whole different story.
Yeah I notice when using task killers my battery life is drastically increased. And has been with all 6 Android phones I have had. And if those app running don't drain battery why do most Verizon employees install task killer for u at purchase?
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And if those app running don't drain battery why do most Verizon employees install task killer for u at purchase?
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Because the retail-monkeys are morons and don't know any better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688513
I use an app called Autorun Manager. It will tell you which apps automatically start and lets you disable them. The nice thing - it tells you which one's are self-restarters. Don't disable them because they will restart & slowly kill your battery as they fight the killing (just as they would any other task manager).
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I use an app called Autorun Manager. It will tell you which apps automatically start and lets you disable them. The nice thing - it tells you which one's are self-restarters. Don't disable them because they will restart & slowly kill your battery as they fight the killing (just as they would any other task manager).
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Now that sounds like a useful app will have to check it out thx.
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thetwiztidfreak said:
Common problem with Android, I had same problem with every Android device I've had. That's why we have task killer apps, though this is something the OS should do anyways
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Completely, 100% inaccurate....this is not a "problem", it is the way the OS is supposed to operate. This isn't Windows, it's linux.
Okay, maybe not 100% inaccurate. There are the occasional rogue apps that you'll improve performance on by killing them, but they're not the rule.
Along with Autorun Manager to stop apps from opening on start, I'd suggest using AutoKiller Memory Manager from the same author: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
Probably the worst named app ever, because it makes people think it is something that it isn't. It's not a task killer, per se, it's a way to tweak the settings in Android that control Android's own memory management scheme. MinFreeManager is another one. If your handy with the terminal, you can do the same with a cat command.
For a much better explanation of how Android works in this regard, check out this blog post: http://www.androidcentral.com/fine-tuning-minfree-settings-improving-androids-multi-tasking
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Along with Autorun Manager to stop apps from opening on start, I'd suggest using AutoKiller Memory Manager from the same author: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
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Yeah...I forgot about AutoKiller...I've had Gingerbread on my Eris for the last 3 months
Hi,
I occassionally kill an app to free up resources via the built in HTC task manager. But, i also noticed that under the manage apps menu, when you click on an app, some of them allow you to press force stop if they are running.
I am confused though, becaue for example i never use slacker or google maps, yet these 2 apps give me the option to force stop. yet, some apps i use frequently do not have the force stop option (its greyed out).
Thanks
Freeze or remove the apps that you don't use, as long as they're not system apps. Check and be sure you know what it does before removing. Task manager apps are not really needed for Android 2.2+. I use the one in the pull down on occasions when I know my phone will be on stand-by for a while so nothing is running in the bg. You should be good. TiB is good for removing and freezing apps, but if you don't wanna pay, you can always disable them via adb.
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Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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I sometimes find myself wanting to kill an app that leaves GPS running, etc...
dr.m0x said:
Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
DJouneyt said:
Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
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Basically anything Android 2.2+ handles applications. Closes them after the appropriate period of time. Ends all processes related to the app unless it had a background service that runs.
Task killer abruptly shuts down the app and doesn't let the Android OS do the job. Earlier on 1.5/1.6 days it was definitely needed because Android didn't handle it as well.
If you have to force stop or task kill make sure your task killer isn't set to auto kill. Also I do kill apps occasionally via Force Stop when the app isn't working. Usually facebook app does this at times or words with friends.
DJouneyt said:
Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
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It isn't really necessary to "free up resources" in Android. Apps that have been dormant for some time or are unnecessary are closed automatically when memory is required. Often apps that are force closed will simply be reopened by the system, which actually has a negative impact on battery life.
Ok I been using advance task killer since I got android I'm using 2.3.4 I have auto kill on 30mins I use it to save battery, are u guys telling me i don't need it?
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Ok I been using advance task killer since I got android I'm using 2.3.4 I have auto kill on 30mins I use it to save battery, are u guys telling me i don't need it?
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You most definitely do not need it.
Can I disable qwikvid, market, and all the otherstuff that seems to run on its own without having to constantly go into a task manager to kill those apps?
Depends on app, if system doesn't use it, use titanium backup to freeze it.
I think this should be in the Q&A section. But answering your question, I don't think there's a way to stop an app from running randomly, except in events such as boot. You may wanna check out the app called Autostart in the market. You should keep in mind though that task killers do more harm than good. Android's memory management on 2.3 and up is very efficient.
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I wouldn't recommend AutoStarts, never worked for me.
Anyways, to answer your question, there should be settings within those apps to disable them from auto-running. If there isn't and the app is misbehaving you can either determine if you want to keep the app, and freeze it, or uninstall it.
As far as I know, market will autorun if you have apps set to update automatically, or if you have background data enabled it will run to check for updates. Haven't figured out how to stop that one yet.
And I don't personally use qwikvid, but isn't that the wifi calling app? If so, it's probably autorunning to make sure your phone is available to handle calls, probably used as a push notification type thing.
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I think this should be in the Q&A section. But answering your question, I don't think there's a way to stop an app from running randomly, except in events such as boot. You may wanna check out the app called Autostart in the market. You should keep in mind though that task killers do more harm than good. Android's memory management on 2.3 and up is very efficient.
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So am I to assume that freezing those apps wont give me any tangible benefit?
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So am I to assume that freezing those apps wont give me any tangible benefit?
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Depends. If you want to use those apps, than freezing will sort of uninstall them (it actually sort of deactivates them). They are unusable once frozen and can only be used again if you unfreeze them. This is used usually for apps that come pre installed on the phone that you are not gonna use.
I don't think there's a way to stop an app from randomly starting. It's just how it works on Android. I wouldn't worry about this too much. As I said, Google has done a good job on memory management.
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You can revoke start on boot permissions for the app if you're on cm 7. That should do the trick.