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Force Stop vs task Manager

Hi,
I occassionally kill an app to free up resources via the built in HTC task manager. But, i also noticed that under the manage apps menu, when you click on an app, some of them allow you to press force stop if they are running.
I am confused though, becaue for example i never use slacker or google maps, yet these 2 apps give me the option to force stop. yet, some apps i use frequently do not have the force stop option (its greyed out).
Thanks

Freeze or remove the apps that you don't use, as long as they're not system apps. Check and be sure you know what it does before removing. Task manager apps are not really needed for Android 2.2+. I use the one in the pull down on occasions when I know my phone will be on stand-by for a while so nothing is running in the bg. You should be good. TiB is good for removing and freezing apps, but if you don't wanna pay, you can always disable them via adb.
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Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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dr.m0x said:
Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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I sometimes find myself wanting to kill an app that leaves GPS running, etc...

dr.m0x said:
Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.

DJouneyt said:
Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
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Basically anything Android 2.2+ handles applications. Closes them after the appropriate period of time. Ends all processes related to the app unless it had a background service that runs.
Task killer abruptly shuts down the app and doesn't let the Android OS do the job. Earlier on 1.5/1.6 days it was definitely needed because Android didn't handle it as well.
If you have to force stop or task kill make sure your task killer isn't set to auto kill. Also I do kill apps occasionally via Force Stop when the app isn't working. Usually facebook app does this at times or words with friends.

DJouneyt said:
Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
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It isn't really necessary to "free up resources" in Android. Apps that have been dormant for some time or are unnecessary are closed automatically when memory is required. Often apps that are force closed will simply be reopened by the system, which actually has a negative impact on battery life.

Ok I been using advance task killer since I got android I'm using 2.3.4 I have auto kill on 30mins I use it to save battery, are u guys telling me i don't need it?
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relldroid said:
Ok I been using advance task killer since I got android I'm using 2.3.4 I have auto kill on 30mins I use it to save battery, are u guys telling me i don't need it?
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You most definitely do not need it.

Can you have to many system apps? Odd.. .

All my system tools, network tools, repair tools, is it possible there tools over lap. Like if three apps all have same program all have start up app killers do they all work. Which wins out.. that's one thing I'm talking battery savers. Network defence. I have apps for there best options but some do things I don't want so can that cause conflict? Like slow phone down. I notice memory being eaten up and wonder if that could be the issue. I mean I want them all but if there duplicate abilities is hurting not helping I will uninstall them. Also how come programs that don't need to start up and come back even after I Kill them. Thanks
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Is there any other way to release more system memory each ram beside deleting apps. I hate using over 350ram which I often do
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Deleting apparently will not free up ram it will free up rom. Your ram is used when apps are running. I have only seen system monitors needed when you overclock and battery savers usually don't help that much. And yes they will overlap and conflict with each other. My battery lasts longer without battery savers and app killers. App killers can also (by default) turn off apparently your phone needs to run and cause stability issues unless you tell them not to (not all will do this but some.) I personally use the back arrow to go back to the home screen and that pretty much stops the app and I get on average about 18 hours out of mt photon (most I have gotten is 1 day 13 hours but I didn't use it a lot at all) and I got about 15 hour average on my evo.
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OK I just hate getting rid apps I paid for and are good. Like Rom manager. Super manager. Rom tool box and titanium back up. I mean others too where one does all functions. So if I uninstall a app it wont run, so more memory. Is there a way to clean duplicate system files running or does it need them. Like system tasks not apps. Thanks. Also why do some apps run even when I turn them off starting up is there as app for that. Freeze? Function keep it from running in the background
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why are you trying to use any type of task killer? its not needed.
why do you think you need to uninstall your useful tools?
do you understand how Android works?
why do you think you need to free up RAM? Free RAM is WASTED RAM....there are thousands of articles on this subject, i would suggest you do some reading on how the system works, before you randomly start killing processes and apps.

[Q] Background running services and data - any way to control these evil programs?

I don't know if out G2x can get chocked on the many programs that one can be running today. But I am assuming that managing RAM is always a good idea.
Any software that can tell me about RAM usage (in details) so I can chose to disable some programs or chose not to use these?
I see that facebook alone can take like 50MB of RAM. What???
But maybe I am mistaken about all of these and in today's world there is no need to keep these in check?
Thanks

If your rooted you can use droidwall to control what apps use data you can use startup pro to stop certain apps to startup on boot.
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With Titanium or root uninstaller you can freeze apps
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Get the app watchdog light it warns you for data hungry apps. And battery draining apps
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[IDEA] Block all apps from auto running, notification center

hey xda'rs
i am thinking about a concept, of an app that can block all apps from auto running and has a notification center, why?
okay in my samsung galaxy s2 i have a problem which is whenever my phone connects to the internet it starts freezing heating up and so, so i have installed autostarts gemini app manager and lbe security in order to block them " like facebook, maps, gmail, outlook, twitter and etc.."
but the problem is some of them are being blocked and some of them starts.
for the blocked apps i won't able to receive notifications unless i open the app, and for non blocked apps the will start whenever i onnect the power open the camera or in so ridiculous sates.
what am thinking if some on can modify android policy, by creating an app to block all those apps, and it have a notification center that will keep you notified with what is happening.
you see in IOS or wp8 " i think they have this policy" so their os is running smoothly despite how tons of apps you have.
in my s2 the ram is 60 mb free!!! it is somthing kills me!!
so what do you think guys? is it possible?!!

Delete my post please
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Not wanting to sing Free ram is wasted ram song again. anyhoo you can use greenify to hibernate apps (not kill , killing is bad real bad)

chris_marsh said:
Not wanting to sing Free ram is wasted ram song again. anyhoo you can use greenify to hibernate apps (not kill , killing is bad real bad)
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iam using greenify, but still it doesn't help me!

Greenify is great to Hibernate user apps and also you can use Rom toolbox to advance freeze any app
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[Q] Ram issue.....

Nexus 5 is an Awesome device no doubt but ..
From over a week my ram usage is increased
I only got 300 to 400. Mb left .....
Mainly use app
Fb for groups
Fb for android
Fb messenger
Whats app
Browser chrome

How is that an issue? RAM is supposed to be used up. That's how apps are stored in memory do you can quickly multitask. Reboot and it will drop until you open apps again.

You can try background process limit and don't keep activities button on developer settings
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After that it it start to hang up.
Sometimes system takes over gb