First of all, I'm a Sprint user, so the concept of sim cards is kind of foreign to me.
Just picked up an Atrix 2 for a friend, rooted, flashed CM10.1 from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2121029
Rebooted, everything's dandy. Turned it off, put in their sim card, and I still have no service. So I poked around, and under Settings -> More... -> Mobile Networks -> Network Operators, if I choose either Search networks or Choose automatically, I get an error. I don't have the sim card now, so I can't say, but one of them was "Error while searching for networks" I think and the other "Can't connect to this network right now"
I'm not sure how to tell if it's recognizing the sim card, or 2, if there's something I have to do to get service.
I'd rather not flash it back to factory if I can help it. I was hoping someone here could help. Thanks!
shouck886 said:
First of all, I'm a Sprint user, so the concept of sim cards is kind of foreign to me.
Just picked up an Atrix 2 for a friend, rooted, flashed CM10.1 from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2121029
Rebooted, everything's dandy. Turned it off, put in their sim card, and I still have no service. So I poked around, and under Settings -> More... -> Mobile Networks -> Network Operators, if I choose either Search networks or Choose automatically, I get an error. I don't have the sim card now, so I can't say, but one of them was "Error while searching for networks" I think and the other "Can't connect to this network right now"
I'm not sure how to tell if it's recognizing the sim card, or 2, if there's something I have to do to get service.
I'd rather not flash it back to factory if I can help it. I was hoping someone here could help. Thanks!
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Did you ever try it on stock? if yes, did it work there?
Also, what carrier are you using, and if it is not whatever your phone was sold for (ATT if it has the symbol on the bottom, but not sure if you are in the US. If it is not the same carrier, it must be unlocked, but it should have asked for a code. Does it give you a message saying no sim card ever, or does it just not work at all?
I know that was a lot of questions, but there are a lot of things that it could be.
Also, try just blowing in the sim card slot and stuff to clear it of any lint or crap that could be in there.
lkrasner said:
Did you ever try it on stock? if yes, did it work there?
Also, what carrier are you using, and if it is not whatever your phone was sold for (ATT if it has the symbol on the bottom, but not sure if you are in the US. If it is not the same carrier, it must be unlocked, but it should have asked for a code. Does it give you a message saying no sim card ever, or does it just not work at all?
I know that was a lot of questions, but there are a lot of things that it could be.
Also, try just blowing in the sim card slot and stuff to clear it of any lint or crap that could be in there.
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Whoa. Brighton. I'm in Milford. Crazy. No, I didn't try it stock, but I just RSD'd it back to stock, so I'll try that next. I don't have the sim card with me. She had to put it back in her phone so she could have something. I'll try it in a bit.
Yeah, it's ATT. And when the sim card was in it, if I remember correctly, it just said "No Service". Before I flashed it to stock, it DID say "No SIM Card" So I guess it's seeing it to an extent. I'll try stock and report back.
Do I need to have the sim card in it once so it registers on ATTs system or something, then I can CM the thing? Like I said, I'm on Sprint, so sim cards are new to me. Thanks!
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Whoa. Brighton. I'm in Milford. Crazy. No, I didn't try it stock, but I just RSD'd it back to stock, so I'll try that next. I don't have the sim card with me. She had to put it back in her phone so she could have something. I'll try it in a bit.
Yeah, it's ATT. And when the sim card was in it, if I remember correctly, it just said "No Service". Before I flashed it to stock, it DID say "No SIM Card" So I guess it's seeing it to an extent. I'll try stock and report back.
Do I need to have the sim card in it once so it registers on ATTs system or something, then I can CM the thing? Like I said, I'm on Sprint, so sim cards are new to me. Thanks!
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LOL, I'm Milford too sort of. Milford mailing, Brighton Township, but more people have heard of Brighton around here, so I use that.
Anyways, yeah that means it's seeing it and it is probably an apn problem. you NEED the sim card for any network stuff to work. let me know about stock, it could just bee that cm did something dumb, but my guess is you need the right apns for ATT, which I could give you. What phone is the sim from? it might not work with the A2 if it is not made for smartphones. once is stock, I would just bring it to the store if it doesn't work, and tell them to activate it, and they will give you a free sim.
lkrasner said:
LOL, I'm Milford too sort of. Milford mailing, Brighton Township, but more people have heard of Brighton around here, so I use that.
Anyways, yeah that means it's seeing it and it is probably an apn problem. you NEED the sim card for any network stuff to work. let me know about stock, it could just bee that cm did something dumb, but my guess is you need the right apns for ATT, which I could give you. What phone is the sim from? it might not work with the A2 if it is not made for smartphones. once is stock, I would just bring it to the store if it doesn't work, and tell them to activate it, and they will give you a free sim.
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The current phone is a Huawei something. Fusion? Fusion 2? I'm not sure. But it's Android, but it's 2.2 or 2.3. It's a pretty lame phone. I'll get back over there and grab the sim in a few hours, and see what it does.
So in theory, stock Atrix 2 rom, and her sim, it should just work, right?
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The current phone is a Huawei something. Fusion? Fusion 2? I'm not sure. But it's Android, but it's 2.2 or 2.3. It's a pretty lame phone. I'll get back over there and grab the sim in a few hours, and see what it does.
So in theory, stock Atrix 2 rom, and her sim, it should just work, right?
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It Should, but might not. if it does, keep the sim in and flash cm again if you want. if not, post a screenshot of settings--about phone--status
or just post the info of network through Mobile network state, and make sure the imei shows a number not some error.
also check under wireless & networks--Mobile Networks--Access Point Names and make sure stuff seems normal there. (should have ATT stuff of some kind)
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It Should, but might not. if it does, keep the sim in and flash cm again if you want. if not, post a screenshot of settings--about phone--status
or just post the info of network through Mobile network state, and make sure the imei shows a number not some error.
also check under wireless & networks--Mobile Networks--Access Point Names and make sure stuff seems normal there. (should have ATT stuff of some kind)
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Oh, I forgot to add that to the OP. I did look at the IMEI and there was a long string there. Not sure what it means, but...
shouck886 said:
Oh, I forgot to add that to the OP. I did look at the IMEI and there was a long string there. Not sure what it means, but...
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That's fine. it is basically the serial number of sorts for the radio chip. it is distinct for all phones, and is how it is identified internationally for carriers and unlocking and such. sometimes with broken harware/firmware this can become unknown or something, so just wanted to make sure it wasn't a problem. I would say there is a chance you need to get it activated from att. you can't totally share a sim card, as they want ou to add the phone to the plan, but if the old one is going away, it would be worth just bringing it in and asking for a new card.
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That's fine. it is basically the serial number of sorts for the radio chip. it is distinct for all phones, and is how it is identified internationally for carriers and unlocking and such. sometimes with broken harware/firmware this can become unknown or something, so just wanted to make sure it wasn't a problem. I would say there is a chance you need to get it activated from att. you can't totally share a sim card, as they want ou to add the phone to the plan, but if the old one is going away, it would be worth just bringing it in and asking for a new card.
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That would probably be the problem then. I need to have att add it to the plan? I wonder if I can call them and if I'd need any account info. Dammit
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That would probably be the problem then. I need to have att add it to the plan? I wonder if I can call them and if I'd need any account info. Dammit
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what is the background of the plan. like what did you have before this phone plan wise, and what are you trying to do now. my guess i things are not set up right, which could end up costing you more money if you have an old plan or something. let me know, and I can see if anything is glaring, but you probably have to have it activated or something, I remember calling to activate i or something, but I am not sure exactly what the process was.
the only info the will likely want is the last 4 digits of your SSN (or whoever's the account is under), the IMEI, and maybe something from the sim card.
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what is the background of the plan. like what did you have before this phone plan wise, and what are you trying to do now. my guess i things are not set up right, which could end up costing you more money if you have an old plan or something. let me know, and I can see if anything is glaring, but you probably have to have it activated or something, I remember calling to activate i or something, but I am not sure exactly what the process was.
the only info the will likely want is the last 4 digits of your SSN (or whoever's the account is under), the IMEI, and maybe something from the sim card.
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Her grandpa's plan. She's currently using the Huawei, and in the end, I want her running the A2 with CM. I have nothing to do with the plan, technically. I'm just trying to help out. I'll get that info, and give them a call before I try. Or while I try.
shouck886 said:
Her grandpa's plan. She's currently using the Huawei, and in the end, I want her running the A2 with CM. I have nothing to do with the plan, technically. I'm just trying to help out. I'll get that info, and give them a call before I try. Or while I try.
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Just an update, ended up needing a new sim card. Then she lost the phone in a field a few days later. :good:
shouck886 said:
Just an update, ended up needing a new sim card. Then she lost the phone in a field a few days later. :good:
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LOL, classic, anyways, glad you got it to work for a few days at least!
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With AT&T you can simply throw a sim card in and away you go with any phone you want. What do you do on AT&T namely if you have an iPhone and TBolt?
You wont be able to do it without going through Verizon to have your TB Sim card reset everytime you want to use your TB after using your iPhone.
Normally you just have to do a simple ESN swap (can do online). Unfortunately with the Thunderbolt and it's LTE SIM, things might be more complicated. I'd check with a Verizon rep to see what would be involved.
Sadly its a complete pain in the butt. One of the guys I work with had to deactivate it and reactivate it a couple of days later. The guy in the store couldn't figure out how to do it, and it took him about 3 hours on the phone with various techs to finally get it working. They ended up having to swap out the SIM card in the store.
Not sure if its the process that is tough, or if they just don't know what they are doing. Either way, I wouldn't recommend it if you can avoid it. If you really need to do it, it is possible, but its not as simple as just swapping out a SIM card like on AT&T.
Once there are more phones utilizing LTE wouldn't you just be able to swap out your sim card and put it in any LTE phone?
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Once there are more phones utilizing LTE wouldn't you just be able to swap out your sim card and put it in any LTE phone?
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Yes, this is correct. I can go buy the Droid Charge, and put in the SIM from my Thunderbolt, and I'll be good to go.
Thats pretty sweet, I wish I had the cash to drop on some more LTE phones when they come out.
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Yes, this is correct. I can go buy the Droid Charge, and put in the SIM from my Thunderbolt, and I'll be good to go.
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Are you sure about that? I thought we were still using CDMA for calls and there is no voice over 4G/LTE on VZW just yet.
WilliamStern said:
Yes, this is correct. I can go buy the Droid Charge, and put in the SIM from my Thunderbolt, and I'll be good to go.
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Pretty sure this is wrong.
When setting up my phone the rep had to set up the sim card and phone separately.
Razorz is right, we still utilize cdma for voice, so it may be possible to get data on a new phone but no voice?
A rep told me you could, never tried I don't have another Verizon phone to swap it out with. Also ATT charges activation when you swap sims "if the sim is in a different phone for a lengthy time". Also ATT will add a data plan to your account if the phone you put it in requires one.
the id number for the sim card and the ESN for the phone both must be in the verizon system associated with your phone number or the device will not work.
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Sadly its a complete pain in the butt. One of the guys I work with had to deactivate it and reactivate it a couple of days later. The guy in the store couldn't figure out how to do it, and it took him about 3 hours on the phone with various techs to finally get it working. They ended up having to swap out the SIM card in the store.
Not sure if its the process that is tough, or if they just don't know what they are doing. Either way, I wouldn't recommend it if you can avoid it. If you really need to do it, it is possible, but its not as simple as just swapping out a SIM card like on AT&T.
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they didn't know what they were doing.
When I had data problems with my TB, I switched to my INC via the activate phone link on the "my account" web page. An hour later when I tried to return to the TB, I got a prompt for the phone's IMEI, then prompted for the SIM card's number.. It error-ed. After calling CS, the rep couldn't help, got TS on the line, they manually entered the SIM number to make it work...
So it appears switching away from the TB deactivated the SIM, to switch back, VZW's TS had to re-add or re-activate the SIM.
And as thetwiztidfreak said, they did need BOTH the IMEI and SIM numbers to re-activate the TB.
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the id number for the sim card and the ESN for the phone both must be in the verizon system associated with your phone number or the device will not work.
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Correct but when you put the registered SIM in another LTE device it registers that handsets IMEI with your account. You can infact do a SIM swap with LTE, since your phone number is tied to the SIM putting the sim in another device effectively activates the phone on your account.
I should know, it's my job ;-)
It works the same way as GSM, but going from an LTE phone to a CDMA phone is a bit different, the SIM gets decactivated and becomes useless and if you want to switch back you need to go the a Verizon store for them to sell you out a new SIM for $0(some times old SIMs can be reactivated however there may b e issues with this). It's a PITA so I don't reccomend switching back and forth between CDMA and LTE devices unless you absolutely HAVE to.
chaoscentral said:
Correct but when you put the registered SIM in another LTE device it registers that handsets IMEI with your account. You can infact do a SIM swap with LTE, since your phone number is tied to the SIM putting the sim in another device effectively activates the phone on your account.
I should know, it's my job ;-)
It works the same way as GSM, but going from an LTE phone to a CDMA phone is a bit different, the SIM gets decactivated and becomes useless and if you want to switch back you need to go the a Verizon store for them to sell you out a new SIM for $0(some times old SIMs can be reactivated however there may b e issues with this). It's a PITA so I don't reccomend switching back and forth between CDMA and LTE devices unless you absolutely HAVE to.
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I can confirm that it is a royal pain in the ass to go to the vzw store to get a new sim...
I just got a replacement for my tbolt. I had 5 days to return the "defective" one. I bounced the SIM card back and forth between the two phones a dozen times trying to see which one got better 3G/4G reception. The rep told me to decide which one works better and send the other phone back. It didn't matter.
Alright not too long ago, I called verizon to notify them about my travels to Japan, 2 weeks prior my trip (i got back less than 24 hours ago). They did some over the phone stuff, added that 100mb plan. And told me to dial *228, I've been warned about dialing *228 on 4G phones before... But this is a Verizon REP telling me this. So i did it, and i was supposed to dial it again when i reached Japan, to update my roaming with their cell towers.
I did so as well... thought little did i know the message i got when i was in japan said my phone did not work over there (didn't know it at the time had my friend translate the message for me days after i already dialed)
Long story short, I've noticed after my initial dial of *228, I somewhat noticed my phone never connected to 4G again. It bugged me, but i was still able to FORCE LTE Only in Phone Info. But when i had that setting in, i couldnt recieve or send calls, or texts... just blazing fast internet.
In my area since I live relatively close to Los Angeles 4G is pretty much everywhere here. What i dont understand why my phone hasn't connected to 4G ever since i called.
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Alright not too long ago, I called verizon to notify them about my travels to Japan, 2 weeks prior my trip (i got back less than 24 hours ago). They did some over the phone stuff, added that 100mb plan. And told me to dial *228, I've been warned about dialing *228 on 4G phones before... But this is a Verizon REP telling me this. So i did it, and i was supposed to dial it again when i reached Japan, to update my roaming with their cell towers.
I did so as well... thought little did i know the message i got when i was in japan said my phone did not work over there (didn't know it at the time had my friend translate the message for me days after i already dialed)
Long story short, I've noticed after my initial dial of *228, I somewhat noticed my phone never connected to 4G again. It bugged me, but i was still able to FORCE LTE Only in Phone Info. But when i had that setting in, i couldnt recieve or send calls, or texts... just blazing fast internet.
In my area since I live relatively close to Los Angeles 4G is pretty much everywhere here. What i dont understand why my phone hasn't connected to 4G ever since i called.
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I'd pull the sim, reinsert and reboot. You may need to reactivate. Sounds like the rep you talked to was a complete waste of space.
preusstang said:
I'd pull the sim, reinsert and reboot. You may need to reactivate. Sounds like the rep you talked to was a complete waste of space.
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I've tried a SIM pull, no luck. I read somewhere dialing *228 could fry to SIM card? Maybe thats what happened, and i'd need to get a replacement...
What do you mean by re-activate?
I've done factory resets quite a few times already today, as well as the IMEI push/fix just in case... still to no luck
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I've tried a SIM pull, no luck. I read somewhere dialing *228 could fry to SIM card? Maybe thats what happened, and i'd need to get a replacement...
What do you mean by re-activate?
I've done factory resets quite a few times already today, as well as the IMEI push/fix just in case... still to no luck
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There's another command using the keypad you can use to factory reset your phone...i just can't remember it. Something like *#4342..etc. I remember seeing it posted on here somewhere but I would search for "factory reset" and see what you can come up with.
This is what people did when they flashed an AOSP rom and were unable to get 4G...it could likely work for you also. It's worth a shot!
Here is the thread and the command: Back up all your info because your phone will be wiped and make sure you are on a stock based TouchWiz rom...go into dialer and hit *2767*3855#. Allow it to reboot and hopefully you will have full use of your phone. If not, go and get yourself a new sim card at the local VZW.
Marcismo55 said:
There's another command using the keypad you can use to factory reset your phone...i just can't remember it. Something like *#4342..etc. I remember seeing it posted on here somewhere but I would search for "factory reset" and see what you can come up with.
This is what people did when they flashed an AOSP rom and were unable to get 4G...it could likely work for you also. It's worth a shot!
Here is the thread and the command: Back up all your info because your phone will be wiped and make sure you are on a stock based TouchWiz rom...go into dialer and hit *2767*3855#. Allow it to reboot and hopefully you will have full use of your phone. If not, go and get yourself a new sim card at the local VZW.
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Tried that twice during the IMEI push. Still to no avail. I'm going to assume the SIM card got bugged during the *228 process... And would probably need a new simcard. My dad also has the S3, and his connects to 4g just fine in my area... THe things i go through with this phone man... I prefer my bionic if the galaxy's camera wasnt so good.
Sorry about the phone woes but once you're up and running again you will see how this device runs circles around your Bionic.
Getting a new SIM card is easy. Verizon gives them away for free and you can just walk in there. Hopefully you get this taken care of.
Marcismo55 said:
Sorry about the phone woes but once you're up and running again you will see how this device runs circles around your Bionic.
Getting a new SIM card is easy. Verizon gives them away for free and you can just walk in there. Hopefully you get this taken care of.
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Got a new SIM card from the Vz store, fixed my problems, got 4G connectivity back...
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I just bought a phone the guy who made no mention of the fact that it was rooted when I bought it. What is worse is he mentioned that his GF worked for Verizon, which did not seem to mean much at the time. Knowing that here is what i'm dealing with.
I was in a rush when I checked out the phone as I had to meet another person to pick one up for my wife as well. It's the sch-i575 in white 16gb. After having a minute to look at the phone it turns out he had Paranoid Android flashed and the phone was rooted. CRAP! Not what I was looking for and he was not upfront about it. The incredibly strange thing was that with NO SIMCARD the phone was getting 3g signal! I spent all night trying to unroot \ undo what he did. I managed to use ODIN to get back to the stock rom although I think it's still a rooted one since I still have the super user app. I got a sim card from verizon but since it was rooted I did not bring the phone in and when I tried to activate later it would not activate. My wife's by the way is working flawless and when I put my sim in her phone it works fine as well. I had to put the sim in my wife's phone and it activated there. Here is the crazy thing, with or with out a simcard the phone makes calls and has 3g internet only but when I make a call it uses HIS NUMBER!! I'm not sure what the hell to do, what could have he done? Any ideas? Please all help is appreciated! I did not think this was even possible for the phone to function w/o a sim. I'm worried about taking it in to Verizon because of the funkiness. Ty again for any insight...
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I just bought a phone the guy who made no mention of the fact that it was rooted when I bought it. What is worse is he mentioned that his GF worked for Verizon, which did not seem to mean much at the time. Knowing that here is what i'm dealing with.
I was in a rush when I checked out the phone as I had to meet another person to pick one up for my wife as well. It's the sch-i575 in white 16gb. After having a minute to look at the phone it turns out he had Paranoid Android flashed and the phone was rooted. CRAP! Not what I was looking for and he was not upfront about it. The incredibly strange thing was that with NO SIMCARD the phone was getting 3g signal! I spent all night trying to unroot \ undo what he did. I managed to use ODIN to get back to the stock rom although I think it's still a rooted one since I still have the super user app. I got a sim card from verizon but since it was rooted I did not bring the phone in and when I tried to activate later it would not activate. My wife's by the way is working flawless and when I put my sim in her phone it works fine as well. I had to put the sim in my wife's phone and it activated there. Here is the crazy thing, with or with out a simcard the phone makes calls and has 3g internet only but when I make a call it uses HIS NUMBER!! I'm not sure what the hell to do, what could have he done? Any ideas? Please all help is appreciated! I did not think this was even possible for the phone to function w/o a sim. I'm worried about taking it in to Verizon because of the funkiness. Ty again for any insight...
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It sounds like you didnt flash the proper stock image. I would start with that and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755386
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I just bought a phone the guy who made no mention of the fact that it was rooted when I bought it. What is worse is he mentioned that his GF worked for Verizon, which did not seem to mean much at the time. Knowing that here is what i'm dealing with.
I was in a rush when I checked out the phone as I had to meet another person to pick one up for my wife as well. It's the sch-i575 in white 16gb. After having a minute to look at the phone it turns out he had Paranoid Android flashed and the phone was rooted. CRAP! Not what I was looking for and he was not upfront about it. The incredibly strange thing was that with NO SIMCARD the phone was getting 3g signal! I spent all night trying to unroot \ undo what he did. I managed to use ODIN to get back to the stock rom although I think it's still a rooted one since I still have the super user app. I got a sim card from verizon but since it was rooted I did not bring the phone in and when I tried to activate later it would not activate. My wife's by the way is working flawless and when I put my sim in her phone it works fine as well. I had to put the sim in my wife's phone and it activated there. Here is the crazy thing, with or with out a simcard the phone makes calls and has 3g internet only but when I make a call it uses HIS NUMBER!! I'm not sure what the hell to do, what could have he done? Any ideas? Please all help is appreciated! I did not think this was even possible for the phone to function w/o a sim. I'm worried about taking it in to Verizon because of the funkiness. Ty again for any insight...
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I thought the I575 was an old slide phone. So A. your in the wrong section of the forum since this is Verizon's S3 or B. you mentioned the wrong device number? I saw phones before working and running on networks without sim-cards but that was years ago. If it is an S3, you sure it's a Verizon device? Also since you see 3g....can you browse around in the browser or make a phone call?
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galchristian said:
I thought the I575 was an old slide phone. So A. your in the wrong section of the forum since this is Verizon's S3 or B. you mentioned the wrong device number? I saw phones before working and running on networks without sim-cards but that was years ago. If it is an S3, you sure it's a Verizon device? Also since you see 3g....can you browse around in the browser or make a phone call?
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Yes, it's a galaxy s3 16gb in white. It looks like currently I was using the tar66 using ODIN. I'm reverting back to the bone stock one now. As far as the models go isn't the SCH-I575 the Verizon version of the S3?
I'm waiting on the stock unrooted rom to take through ODIN and will report back. Thank you for taking the time to try and help.
Ohh, yes the internet works and when I make phone calls with or with out my sim in it makes calls successfully but the other guys number shows up. What the heck did this guy do to the phone!
Our model is the SCH-i535
Dont thank/like/rep my posts or ill report you.
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Our model is the SCH-i535
Dont thank/like/rep my posts or ill report you.
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You are obviously absolutley correct. I'm frantically trying to figure this out. I have flashed the stock rom and don't have super user anymore. The problem persists with the guys number.
Could he have flashed a custom kernel and modem or does reverting back using the stock rom cover all that ?
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You are obviously absolutley correct. I'm frantically trying to figure this out. I have flashed the stock rom and don't have super user anymore. The problem persists with the guys number.
Could he have flashed a custom kernel and modem or does reverting back using the stock rom cover all that ?
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The one i linked covers all that and completely erases all data on the phone. Did you insert your sim after the stock flash?
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The one i linked covers all that and completely erases all data on the phone. Did you insert your sim after the stock flash?
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I just double checked and I had the I535VRLAG1 version, yours is the I535VRALF2 in the link you posted trying this now. The crazy thing is that it even says that the sim is activated with MY number! but the calls are still comming from him. I even tried wiping the device and clearing the cache. I also tried to JUST flash the modem with VRLG1.modem.tar.md5 and nothing :\. Waiting on the file from your link to download and will try that.
Is it possible that this is being caused by something on Verizon's end? The phone ( with out the SIM ) is registered to him somehow? I know this is not normal but because his GF worked for Verizon could they have done something funky?
Yeah its definitely possible its from something she did to the phone but most likely nothing from Verizon's end. Does the IMEI number under status match the IMEI number under the battery?
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Yeah its definitely possible its from something she did to the phone but most likely nothing from Verizon's end. Does the IMEI number under status match the IMEI number under the battery?
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Yes IMEI is the same in the OS as behind the battery.
The curious thing is that on the same screen in the OS where you find the IMEI there is also a field called Network and it says " Unknown"
It also has things like:
Eri v : 5
Mobile network type : EvDo-rev.a:8
The thing I keep coming back to is how is it possible for this phone to make calls\ have data with out a sim?
Starting to really think I got cheated
Cheated? Sounds like you have free Verizon service.
Roll with it. If you really want a bill you can have mine...
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tekkski said:
Yes IMEI is the same in the OS as behind the battery.
The curious thing is that on the same screen in the OS where you find the IMEI there is also a field called Network and it says " Unknown"
It also has things like:
Eri v : 5
Mobile network type : EvDo-rev.a:8
The thing I keep coming back to is how is it possible for this phone to make calls\ have data with out a sim?
Starting to really think I got cheated
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Very strange that's for sure. Try re-provisioning the device *2767*3855#
toy028 said:
Very strange that's for sure. Try re-provisioning the device *2767*3855#
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Just did and the same thing happened. I went to the Verizon store and the guy there had no idea and got me in touch with tech support from the store. They were dumbfounded and flat out said that what is happening is impossible. "It's impossible to make\receive phone calls with out a sim unless they are emergency" I harped on the fact that I am making phone calls as one of their other customers and that this is a big deal. In the end since I had the insurance and extended warranty they will ship me a new phone.
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Just did and the same thing happened. I went to the Verizon store and the guy there had no idea and got me in touch with tech support from the store. They were dumbfounded and flat out said that what is happening is impossible. "It's impossible to make\receive phone calls with out a sim unless they are emergency" I harped on the fact that I am making phone calls as one of their other customers and that this is a big deal. In the end since I had the insurance and extended warranty they will ship me a new phone.
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Wow... you gave away free service
Dont thank/like/rep my posts or ill report you.
Yeah i agree. Screw it. Just forward your number to the new one until everyone gets used to the new number. Free service equals win baby win
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I currently have a Nexus 5 (I was previously using it through MetroPCS), however I recently ordered a "Tablet (data-only)" sim card from T-mobile and tried to get it working. At the time, the T-mobile rep told me that it SHOULD work. However, after running around in circles for a few days with them, I've finally found out that it does not work (...YET!).
When I try to get the Nexus 5 to use this SIM card, it just keeps giving me a "Sign into network" notification, and never lets me use any data. (and no amount of signing into my account from my phone has helped)
According to the T-mobile rep, "this SIM card will ONLY work with a tablet". However, this is Android, and there's not much difference between a phone, and a tablet. There must be some kind of setting I can change to get my phone to think it's a tablet, or at least to get it to use this tablet-only sim card!
So I'm wondering what do I have to do to trick my phone into using this data-only sim card?
Things you may need to know:
I'm already rooted
I'm running stock Android 4.4.2
Lastly, because I'm sure people will ask: "Why do you care?, why don't you just get a standard phone-sim card?!?"
So, preemptively, here is my answer: "Because, they're giving me a data-only plan for $10/month! (and $20/month after the first year). AND, if I were to switch to a phone plan, the CHEAPEST they will allow me to have is $50/month, which is HUGE! That's a $40 difference per month!"
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I currently have a Nexus 5 (I was previously using it through MetroPCS), however I recently ordered a "Tablet (data-only)" sim card from T-mobile and tried to get it working. At the time, the T-mobile rep told me that it SHOULD work. However, after running around in circles for a few days with them, I've finally found out that it does not work (...YET!).
When I try to get the Nexus 5 to use this SIM card, it just keeps giving me a "Sign into network" notification, and never lets me use any data. (and no amount of signing into my account from my phone has helped)
According to the T-mobile rep, "this SIM card will ONLY work with a tablet". However, this is Android, and there's not much difference between a phone, and a tablet. There must be some kind of setting I can change to get my phone to think it's a tablet, or at least to get it to use this tablet-only sim card!
So I'm wondering what do I have to do to trick my phone into using this data-only sim card?
Things you may need to know:
I'm already rooted
I'm running stock Android 4.4.2
Lastly, because I'm sure people will ask: "Why do you care?, why don't you just get a standard phone-sim card?!?"
So, preemptively, here is my answer: "Because, they're giving me a data-only plan for $10/month! (and $20/month after the first year). AND, if I were to switch to a phone plan, the CHEAPEST they will allow me to have is $50/month, which is HUGE! That's a $40 difference per month!"
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"However, this is Android, and there's not much difference between a phone, and a tablet. There must be some kind of setting I can change to get my phone to think it's a tablet, or at least to get it to use this tablet-only sim card!"
this is wrong. they absolutely know that youre using a tablet, and a bunch of other things about your device as soon as it connects to their network. in order for them to let your device use their network, they need this info. and wont let any device connect to their network without the proper info. the network isnt some generic highway of data, its owned by tmobile, and only gives access to it if tmobile allows it.
anyways, i have a question, how much data do they give you for $10 a month?
simms22 said:
anyways, i have a question, how much data do they give you for $10 a month?
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They give you 1GB of data for $10/month, however it jumps to $20 after the first year. Seems pretty cheap to me.
I'm still holding out hope that there must be some sort of hack, or maybe editing my build.prop or something like that to trick it into believing it's a Nexus 7 or something :-\
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They give you 1GB of data for $10/month, however it jumps to $20 after the first year. Seems pretty cheap to me.
I'm still holding out hope that there must be some sort of hack, or maybe editing my build.prop or something like that to trick it into believing it's a Nexus 7 or something :-\
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na, wont work, build.prop edits. there are other files it reads, not the build.prop. it also creates files in root. which is funny, when you delete them, they reappear within 5 minutes. plus there is stuff in our radios as well, that tmobile reads, that we cant get to.
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anyways, $10 then $20 for 1gb data is not very cheap! lol, i use 1gb data within 2 days on my nexus 5(lte)
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na, wont work, build.prop edits. there are other files it reads, not the build.prop. it also creates files in root. which is funny, when you delete them, they reappear within 5 minutes. plus there is stuff in our radios as well, that tmobile reads, that we cant get to.
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anyways, $10 then $20 for 1gb data is not very cheap! lol, i use 1gb data within 2 days on my nexus 5(lte)
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What about changing the IMEI number? I believe that can be done, and I know when I was talking with a service rep, he was talking about how their system was registering my IMEI number. Maybe that's how they know it's a Nexus 5 and not a tablet? :-\
Also, you mention that 1GB/month for $10/month isn't cheap? (btw it's 1GB for $10, 3GB for $20, 5GB for $30) How do you figure? I know you're saying you can burn through it in a day, I'm sure I could too streaming netflix or something! That isn't the point though. Can you find a cheaper standalone data plan elsewhere? If so, where? I'd love to know
I have found some hope!
After doing further research, I found this article, which supports my IMEI theory.
http://www.cnet.com/news/using-a-tablet-sim-to-turn-a-smartphone-into-a-data-only-device/
In fact, according to the article, if I can find somebody with a 4g enabled tablet, I should hopefully be able to stick my sim card into their device, activate it, then pop the sim card back into my device, and hopefully that will work. (In the article she states that it works with verizon, wont work with at&t, and may, or may not work with T-mobile.)
Sadly, I don't believe I know of anybody with a 4G enabled tablet. Therefore my only option I know of would be to find a way (using root of course), to spoof, or change my IMEI number, which I'm sure should prove to be extremely fun! :silly:
Now I'm off to research that and I'll report back here what I find. :fingers-crossed:
Just go into the store with your sim and pop it into one of their tablets to activate it
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Just go into the store with your sim and pop it into one of their tablets to activate it
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That's not a bad idea, thanks!
Although, what I might do, just to be thorough (and if the sales rep is watching me like a hawk, since they might not like me shoving my SIM into the demo unit), is go into one of the stores and instead, write down the IMEI number of one of their tablets (which would be simple to just pick up the tablet, and go to settings>about device>status), and then, make my phone's IMEI number match that. That way I think it's less likely to have problems (it's possible that if the IMEI number changes, that will cause them to turn the service back off).
I dunno, I might try my thing first, and then, when that doesn't work, I'll try the more invasive, sticking my SIM in their tablet. Thanks for the idea :laugh:
It's finally over!
Ok thank you for trying to help me but I finally resolved this problem.
Previously it was caused by a t-mobile rep having me order a tablet-only sim card for my phone.
I WAS going to try and change my IMEI number to match a tablet because (and I still believe) that would have tricked t-mobile into thinking my phone was a tablet, however, after much digging I have found the following which A: suits my needs, and B: no longer requires any trickery
I'm going with the T-mobile prepaid $30 unlimited text and data plan. With that you get:
100 minutes (10 cents a minute thereafter)
Unlimited Text
5GB of data, thereafter they throttle you, just like anybody else does
all for $30 bucks a month. BUT, you have to have a phone that you own, it can't be something under contract etc.
It is WAY more data than I need, but it's the cheapest they offer so I'll take it!
I should note: you MUST get your SIM card from Walmart if you're going with this plan, just FYI
Thanks again for trying to help me.
Anyone try this lately to see if it works?
biggiestuff said:
Anyone try this lately to see if it works?
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Not sure what part you're referring to but discussion of IMEI changing is banned.
rootSU said:
Not sure what part you're referring to but discussion of IMEI changing is banned.
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Referring to trying a t-mobile tablet sim on an N5.
biggiestuff said:
Referring to trying a t-mobile tablet sim on an N5.
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Well, a T-mobile tablet only sim doesn't work in a phone. They're not going to suddenly "allow" it.
rootSU said:
Well, a T-mobile tablet only sim doesn't work in a phone. They're not going to suddenly "allow" it.
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Just wanted an update on if anyone's tried it lately. things change. ya never know.
biggiestuff said:
Just wanted an update on if anyones tried it lately. things change. ya never know.
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True you never know, but you have to admit its pretty unlikely
I was also duped by a tmobile sales person. Telling me a data only sim card will work on a phone. Alot of hassle and back and forth with customer support, and advanced tech support, i found that it cant work. not sure why tmobile doesnt allow this. I only wanted data on my note 3 that i gave to my kids after i got a one plus one. I have not tried putting the sim card inside a tablet to activate it then putting back in mine. Kinda erks me that tmobile reps are not properly trained and that i cant just pop the data only sim into a phone
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So, here is what i just tried. I popped the data only sim card into my one plus one and it works fine. im going to try and put it back into the note 3 now
tansuperman said:
I was also duped by a tmobile sales person. Telling me a data only sim card will work on a phone. Alot of hassle and back and forth with customer support, and advanced tech support, i found that it cant work. not sure why tmobile doesnt allow this. I only wanted data on my note 3 that i gave to my kids after i got a one plus one. I have not tried putting the sim card inside a tablet to activate it then putting back in mine. Kinda erks me that tmobile reps are not properly trained and that i cant just pop the data only sim into a phone
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So, here is what i just tried. I popped the data only sim card into my one plus one and it works fine. im going to try and put it back into the note 3 now
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Thanks so much for posting this. I'm really anxious to see if this works out for you. I'd like to use a data only sim in the new Note 4.
Tablet data works on phones!
I have a nexus 4 and 5. I have the plan described by this guy. it works flawlessly in the 4. Also tested in a moto g. The nexus 5 is the only device I've tested that has this issue. Don't colose this off as impossible! it works, there must be a way!
Hey everyone thanks for your help in advance... I just bought my phone and went to T-Mobile to get a new micro Sims card. After putting it in, the phone didn't recognize it. I put in the APN settings and it doesn't save it. This really sucks right now because I don't know what else to do. Any help will be greatly appreciated. And my phone isnt rooted yet, just want the stock for now. Thanks again
Is the sim activated? Sometimes on a new sim it takes a few hours to start working.
I was already on Tmo with an N5. I just moved the sim over and all was good.
NaterTots said:
Is the sim activated? Sometimes on a new sim it takes a few hours to start working.
I was already on Tmo with an N5. I just moved the sim over and all was good.
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What he said. If OP has another phone that uses a MicroSIM, put the sim in that phone and see if it works.
Also did u insert the sim properly into its slot?
zephiK said:
What he said. If OP has another phone that uses a MicroSIM, put the sim in that phone and see if it works.
Also did u insert the sim properly into its slot?
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You Quoted the wrong post.
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You Quoted the wrong post.
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I actually didn't. I agreeing with what you said and added onto your point.
I didn't mean the u to be directed to NaterTots but to the OP. Sorry for the confusion.
I screwed up and instead of using my old Sim card and cutting I went into T-Mobile and had them activate a new micro Sim card and put it straight in. The old one is deactivated.
The new micro Sim does work in my old gslaxy S2 phone which used an older big Sim card. Its now using a Sim adapter.
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I screwed up and instead of using my old Sim card and cutting I went into T-Mobile and had them activate a new micro Sim card and put it straight in. The old one is deactivated.
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Did you insert the SIM card in the right direction and not upside down? I know thats silly to ask.
to be honest its simple man and actually nothing you needed to make a thread about. Simple go to TMobile store and try an already active sim card. Go to AT&T and see if they can put an active sim card to help you out. Basically go to anywhere that works with a TMobile or AT&T derivative and try it out. Nothing really else we can do to help you on this.
Not try to be rude or anything but its the truth. If none of that works then you may have to RMA. Also maybe find a friend or family member and try their sim . Good luck :good:
Should work. Using my one plus with Solavei (t-mobile based company) and having no issues.
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Did you insert the SIM card in the right direction and not upside down? I know thats silly to ask.
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First time i've also put the tray wrong. True story
Just had this problem after coming from using the phone overseas and no signal whatsoever on the phone despite numerous restarts, SIM cleaning, and chats with T mobile. After verifying the APN was correct I went to Settings-->About Phone-->Status-->SIM Status and checked to see if the SIM was connected(it showed my phone number, but was disconnected). So from here went to Settings-->Mobile Networks-->Network Operators and let the phone find carriers automatically. Mine showed T-mobile(with a little SIM icon to the right of it), Verizon, and ATT. I clicked on T-Mobile and it registered and is now working.
Probably saved me $15 at the T-Mobile store. Hope this helps even just one of you.