Getting a sore thumb? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General

I love this phone, but the larger size (coming from a GS2) definitely puts a strain on my thumb as I move it up and down the screen, especially to hit the buttons. I don't have small hands, but I don't have large hands either, and this is definitely causing some discomfort after heavy usuage.
So, in case anyone else is experiencing this is well, a nice solution is to install Pie Control from the play store and configure it to provide home, back and menu buttons on the sides of the screen when you swipe. It works great, just takes a while to get into the habit, and it's much quicker and easier than moving all the way to the bottom to press the buttons. It's completely configurable as well.

Lol, gave me a chuckle.
I had a similar situation when I got my s3 coming from an s1. Eventually I got used to the larger screen and just naturally started holding the phone differently. My s4 isn't a great deal bigger than my s3 but it is noticeable. You will all get used to the size in no time at all, I promise.
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hansonator said:
Lol, gave me a chuckle.
I had a similar situation when I got my s3 coming from an s1. Eventually I got used to the larger screen and just naturally started holding the phone differently. My s4 isn't a great deal bigger than my s3 but it is noticeable. You will all get used to the size in no time at all, I promise.
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Actually the only thing larger on the GS4 is the screen. The phone itself is the same size.
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hansonator said:
Lol, gave me a chuckle.
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I know, it sounds like a classic first-world problem ... I have this amazing, incredible, portal device that can do almost anything anywhere I go, but ... my poor thumb gets tired using it!! :crying:

Are you kidding me? This thread is sooooo pointless.

Guys, my eyes are straining from peering around at such a larger screen than my Galaxy Nexus.
Any tips?
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i game a lot so my thumbs have built muscle from it.

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Are you kidding me? This thread is sooooo pointless.
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Your post is off topic and pointless
I had the s2 and the s4 feels more comfortable
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jsmith8858 said:
I love this phone, but the larger size (coming from a GS2) definitely puts a strain on my thumb as I move it up and down the screen, especially to hit the buttons. I don't have small hands, but I don't have large hands either, and this is definitely causing some discomfort after heavy usuage.
So, in case anyone else is experiencing this is well, a nice solution is to install Pie controls from the play store and configure it to provide home, back and menu buttons on the sides of the screen when you swipe. It works great, just takes a while to get into the habit, and it's much quicker and easier than moving all the way to the bottom to press the buttons. It's completely configurable as well.
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I had a similar problem going to s3 but I have small hands. I had to get treated for an injury at the base of my palm which was probably due to one-handed use. I kind of avoid using my thumb for scrolling or pressing buttons while holding the phone one-handed. I just use the index finger of the other hand to touch the screen. As a general rule, if you have discomfort using something, don't keep doing it, or take a rest, or find another way to do it. I learned the hard way

dsixda said:
I had a similar problem going to s3 but I have small hands. I had to get treated for an injury at the base of my palm which was probably due to one-handed use. I kind of avoid using my thumb for scrolling or pressing buttons while holding the phone one-handed. I just use the index finger of the other hand to touch the screen. As a general rule, if you have discomfort using something, don't keep doing it, or take a rest, or find another way to do it. I learned the hard way
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Yeah, very true! That's why I'm trying out the Pie Control, so far it's working pretty well. Also alternating by using my left hand when possible.

jsmith8858 said:
Yeah, very true! That's why I'm trying out the Pie Control, so far it's working pretty well. Also alternating by using my left hand when possible.
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I tried using Pie Control for a while but it became a bit of an annoyance whenever you didn't want to touch it. Another thing you can do, if your S4 version supports it, is to install an AOSP-based ROM and turn on the soft/virtual keys so that they appear above the capacitive buttons. Then turn off the capacitive buttons and their LED (the hack is found in a Google search). This makes reaching for the buttons easier but at the expense of shorter screen space.
There will be insensitive people here who will scoff at and mock your problems (happened to me before too, just for saying I had small hands), but RSI is a real serious issue and is relevant to this phone, especially as these flagship devices are not going to get any smaller. Not everyone here has large hands.
Anyways I think this should be moved to the Q&A section.. ?

akira02rex said:
Guys, my eyes are straining from peering around at such a larger screen than my Galaxy Nexus.
Any tips?
:silly::silly:
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So you're saying you've never seen anything that big down there before.

dsixda said:
Anyways I think this should be moved to the Q&A section.. ?
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Well, there really isn't a question, just a tip I thought I'd share. Maybe Apps is a better place? (Though I do realize I phrased my topic as a question of course)

Baldilocks said:
Actually the only thing larger on the GS4 is the screen. The phone itself is the same size.
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Yes, I realize that. I compared the two when I got my s4. The extra height of the screen is negligible but noticeable. I use my nexus 7 one handed so not a problem for me.
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Related

Picked up a G2X, most likely returning to my Vibrant

I picked up a G2x earlier today at lunch time
Pros:
Phone is very fast, looks good, and has good data speeds
GPS is absolutely instantaneous, and had me within under 10ft <--- flipping awesome
Screen looks good i.e. color and brightness, very comparable to amoled
HDMI mini
Stock android is nice, very little bloatware
[*[Camera takes very good pictures + flash is nice
Cons:
Beveled glass on the front looks nice, but doesn't feel well when holding
Phone is 20% heavier than the vibrant and is noticeable
Touch sensitivity isn't the greatest
Backlight bleed isnt as bad as some others on here, but still poorer than many other lcd phones ive had
Power button should have been on the top left
Very nice phone, I think LG did a good job with it. Just doesn't suit my tastes. I would highly recommend it to anyone though, even over the Vibrant/4g. But for me its back to Vibrant, awaiting the SGS2 if it ever comes out
These pros/cons are strictly personal opinions/taste please do not spam thread yelling or telling me I am a moron, its unnecessary.
How is the HDMI port a con?
Can you expand on what you mean about the feel of the glass, and also the touch sensitivity?
Touch sensitivity on the Samsungs were very good I agree. Your finger can actually be within a millimeter or so off the screen and it will pick you up, don't even have to touch it. Is this not the case with the LG? Wonder if this is software-tweakable/hackable.
those are some pretty minimal cons you have listed if you ask me. power button should be on the left? its not that serious. different stokes for different folks I s'pouse.
Ummm... I don't know what you're talking about with screen sensitivity... once I removed the protective film, it is just as sensitive as my Captivate was. And I have less miss-types as well because it seems like they used a tighter capacitive matrix (much like the Inspire has) than the Cappy.
I don't understand how HDMI is a con.
And the beveled glass just takes some getting used to - if you hold it with your hand wrapped around just below the camera, it adds more stability.
I agree with you on the weight though. I think manufacturers should make more emphasis on keeping weight down. Don't know why you'd want to carry any more weight than necessary. The usual argument is actually *for* higher weight, which I don't get at all. Weight doesn't make something "more solid." It actually usually makes it more prone to damage. A light, plastic object is much more likely to flex, bounce, and otherwise slowly absorb impact than a heavy, metal object which will immediately transmit the full G-force of the impact inside.
uploder said:
those are some pretty minimal cons you have listed if you ask me. power button should be on the left? its not that serious. different stokes for different folks I s'pouse.
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They are minimal I absolutely agree, which is why I stated the list is strictly personal opinion. I dislike the power button being so close to the volume keys, it doesn't feel good. Using thumb for volume rocker my pointer finger would either hit the left side top area or the top left area. I am right handed and hardly ever use the phone with left hand so its strictly a personal thing.
dasbin said:
Can you expand on what you mean about the feel of the glass, and also the touch sensitivity?
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Its not so much the feel of the glass, more or less the touch sensitivity. I find myself retouching the screen a lot more than I would like to
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How is the HDMI port a con?
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Not sure how that got in there as a con lol edited.
Lol i Love when u said power button should be on the left... just to satisfies u? Cause u coming from a vibrant.. Lol. I have a vibrant and side power button suck pretty much. And phone is 20% heavier than vibrant lol. Grab a Thunderbolt and we talk after.
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EtherealRemnant said:
Ummm... I don't know what you're talking about with screen sensitivity... once I removed the protective film, it is just as sensitive as my Captivate was. And I have less miss-types as well because it seems like they used a tighter capacitive matrix (much like the Inspire has) than the Cappy.
And the beveled glass just takes some getting used to - if you hold it with your hand wrapped around just below the camera, it adds more stability.
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Cant explain this one honestly. Just from personal use Is easier on my Vibrant. I have also had the Vibrant since launch so it might be I am just used to it thats all.
I think how I "like" to hold it, it doesn't do so well with my hands. Maybe I have smaller hands idk lol. It feels awkward to hold comfortably
ajftl said:
Lol i Love when u said power bottom should be on the left... just to satisfies u? Cause up coming from a vibrant.. Lol. I have a vibrant and side power button suck pretty much. And phone is 20% heavier than vibrant lol. Grab a Thunderbolt and we talk after.
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I love your comments. Please post more.
ajftl said:
Lol i Love when u said power bottom should be on the left... just to satisfies u? Cause up coming from a vibrant.. Lol. I have a vibrant and side power button suck pretty much. And phone is 20% heavier than vibrant lol. Grab a Thunderbolt and we talk after.
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lol I wouldn't/don't expect them to redesign a phone just for me. Hence the cons/pros are personal opion/taste only. I think the Vibrant power button would have been a little nicer if it was easier to f*ing click so I agree with you on that one mostly. I cant comment on Thunderbolt since I have not held one yet, but I feel sorry for anyone who has one if its that heavy. So used to the Vibrant's weight.
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I love your comments. Please post more.
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Not really. This thread stupid
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ajftl said:
Not really. This thread stupid
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I don't see how my thread is stupid. While the pros/cons may be personal taste/opinion, it doesn't make it stupid. I think the phone is a fantastic device and I would highly recommend it. I am merely giving a different review then others already have. Reviews are good to have, especially ones that are non-biased and truthful.
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Not really. This thread stupid
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Agreed but I was talking in general
To the OP, I have been using a Vibrant as well since July and I don't know about you but It's a relief to actually have a working GPS. I understand you like the lightness of the Vibrant but come on. It's so light, it feels like a cheap piece of plastic.
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To the OP, I have been using a Vibrant as well since July and I don't know about you but It's a relief to actually have a working GPS. I understand you like the lightness of the Vibrant but come on. It's so light, it feels like a cheap piece of plastic.
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I can not agree with you more on the GPS. I don't even bother trying to use it on my Vibrant. I will however disagree to an extent on the "cheapness" I enjoy the feel of it. I only look at the front of the phone so the back can be whatever it needs to be and I could care less. I don't need a phone to look aesthetically pleasing, or feel luxurious. For me it feels just about right. Personal taste
U might be waiting a while for the sgs2. Hence why I just ordered the g2x. The sgs4g is slow as ****, and lags like a ************. Not to mention no camera flash, no internal memory. The g2x seems like a nice piece of hardware. Cant wait til ups gets here with it tomorrow.
Side note... Anyone wanna buy my sgs4g.... Im just a **** hair out of the buyers remorse.
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Vibrants lack of camera flash is a big CON for me as well. Don't even try to say night mode replaces a camera flash because it doesn't.
highdefdinardo said:
U might be waiting a while for the sgs2. Hence why I just ordered the g2x. The sgs4g is slow as ****, and lags like a ************. Not to mention no camera flash, no internal memory. The g2x seems like a nice piece of hardware. Cant wait til ups gets here with it tomorrow.
Side note... Anyone wanna buy my sgs4g.... Im just a **** hair out of the buyers remorse.
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Hey no threadjacking : P. Yeah I am not gonna get my hopes up on a release thats before July. My Vibrant is extremely fast and does not lag(custom rom). Camera flash would have been nice yes. The g2x is a very nice piece of hardware, just not my cup of tea.
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Vibrants lack of camera flash is a big CON for me as well. Don't even try to say night mode replaces a camera flash because it doesn't.
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And the need to modify for decent performance sux. Good bye vibe.
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jrwingate6 said:
Vibrants lack of camera flash is a big CON for me as well. Don't even try to say night mode replaces a camera flash because it doesn't.
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I will not argue that. The night mode only works better if your actually outside taking a picture of something not so close which would render the flash useless anyways. I carry a regular camera with me when I need to take good pics, so phone camera isn't all that important to me.

[Q] Size of Infuse 4G

Hey guys, new here and just wondering what you think about the size of the infuse. I'm considering getting one, but I am worried that I won't get used to carrying such a massive phone around. I am also thinking about the captivate because it is smaller, but definitely like the infuse more except wrt every other aspect of the phone. Thanks
corywd said:
Hey guys, new here and just wondering what you think about the size of the infuse. I'm considering getting one, but I am worried that I won't get used to carrying such a massive phone around. I am also thinking about the captivate because it is smaller, but definitely like the infuse more except wrt every other aspect of the phone. Thanks
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To me, I barely even notice the size until I hold a different phone. It just feels perfect in my hands. Its not really that much of a hassle to carry around since its so darn thin. Its not at all bulky. Fits nicely in my jeans pocket.
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The infuse feels better in your hand than you would think. This is due to its extremely thin profile. I owned a Dell Streak 5 and I hated it yet it is only a 1/2 inch bigger in the screen....reason being the thickness. Go for the infuse, best phone out there!
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It totally depends on you actually. I know a some people have trouble using it with one hand, where I have no problem swyping one handed and reaching all corners of the keyboard. You should go check it out in store, and see if you can operate it one handed. If you usually use two hands and don't swype, definitely get this phone! The screen is gorgeous and watching media such as netflix streaming on it is unbelievable. Basically like having a mini HDTV that I can carry around in my pocket.
Also, I had a captivate and was very happy with the screen size...until I got my infuse that is. Haha. My dad uses my captivate still, and every time I pick it up I can't believe how small it feels and just feel like I could never go back to anything smaller than 4.5". Like others have said, the thin form factor definitely makes this phone svelte and very useable.
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i thought the same thing. Coming from my hd2 it wasn't a really big difference. what you will really notice is the thin profile. i found... kinda hard to grasp on to. but in the end, you will find out it is the a really good device.
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what you will really notice is the thin profile. i found... kinda hard to grasp on to.
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I agree. It really isn't "THAT" big but the biggest problem for me is the thinness. It's so light and thin that for me it is difficult to hold on to but I have other issues such as arthritis in my hands which makes it worse. Putting it in a Bodyglove rubber case added enough surface to it to resolve that.
The screen size is absolutely perfect for me. I came from a g2x where I thought the screen was way to small. I was at the movies recently showing my girl how good Netflix looked and some random Guy asked me where I got my portable TV from.
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corywd said:
Hey guys, new here and just wondering what you think about the size of the infuse. I'm considering getting one, but I am worried that I won't get used to carrying such a massive phone around. I am also thinking about the captivate because it is smaller, but definitely like the infuse more except wrt every other aspect of the phone. Thanks
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I just made the switch from the i897 Captivate to the i997 Infuse on Monday night and I carry my device directly in my pocket and I have to say I really do not notice any difference between the two devices. Where I start to notice the difference is when it comes out of the pocket and into my hand. Definately a difference when it hits your hand and you start to use it. I had a little bit of a transition from using the Infuse with the cord plugged in (Captivate plugs in on the top, Infuse on the bottom) I thought I hated the cord on the top but not I actualy prefer it over the bottom plug scenario. When it was on top it was easier to hold in hand without the cord in the way. Now that it is there I am having to constantly adjust the way I am holding the device to accomodate this placement of the cord.
Other than that little "Inconvienience" The device is fantastic, brilliant in display...I am constantly getting the WOW factor when people see the screen and how vibrant it is. And battery life is right on par with all other devices (1/2day/12-13hrs of moderate to heavy use all day). So I would say go for it if you were on the fence or hold off a little longer and get the SGSII (pretty much the same phone but with dual core) which will be out in a month or so...or so they say.
It will be difficult to step down to a smaller screen size
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As long as you don't death grip all the time or your hands are on the smaller end of the spectrum, the Infuse should be great.
Even with the screen being larger than other smart phones, the phone itself doesn't feel massive. Between the weight, thinness and just overall dimensions; this is a great phone. Compare to a Captivate or a Vibrant, there is no inconvenience that I've seen. If anything, you get a larger screen with better resolution and more capability. Development is building for the phone as well.
Overall, I don't think you will be disappointed with this phone. I have nothing but good things to say about it.
Way, way too big.
It is literally impossible to hold it with one hand and drag the notifications down.
With the same 480x800 resolution you don't get more screen real estate than a Captivate, just everything is bigger and pixelated.
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Mikey is just angry because people started asking him if he was compensating for something. =P
Just messing with you. I personally haven't seen the pixelation issue, but maybe I'm just overlooking it.
I would definitely have to agree that it isn't a phone that's super easy to manipulate with one hand, but at the same time I haven't really had any issues. I think it just takes some adjustment coming from a smaller phone.
One thing I forgot to mention earlier, is that I'm much happier with the GPS on this phone than the previous generation Galaxy S models(i.e. Vibrant, Captivate and Fascinate). I know that isn't really size related, but it's definitely an improvement.
Ok Thanks everybody. I think I'm gonna go with the Infuse. 1 other quick question. Does it's thinness and size make it more fragile? I would put a case and screen protector on it, but is the screen breaking going to be an issue? Thanks
corywd said:
Ok Thanks everybody. I think I'm gonna go with the Infuse. 1 other quick question. Does it's thinness and size make it more fragile? I would put a case and screen protector on it, but is the screen breaking going to be an issue? Thanks
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Mine fell from the stairs at my house. Hit the last step. Still kicking
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Mikey is just angry because people started asking him if he was compensating for something. =P
Just messing with you. I personally haven't seen the pixelation issue, but maybe I'm just overlooking it.
I would definitely have to agree that it isn't a phone that's super easy to manipulate with one hand, but at the same time I haven't really had any issues. I think it just takes some adjustment coming from a smaller phone.
One thing I forgot to mention earlier, is that I'm much happier with the GPS on this phone than the previous generation Galaxy S models(i.e. Vibrant, Captivate and Fascinate). I know that isn't really size related, but it's definitely an improvement.
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The GPS on the Infuse is nice. Not as good as a real GPS or my Xoom was, but nice.
I have yet to try tracking but it locks on faster indoors than the Captivate could floating in space next to the satellites.
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Insane battery life on CM10

First off I'd like to thank h8rift for his amazing port of CM10 to the One XL.
As an experiment, I wanted to test the battery with the screen on at all times and this phone just would not die. I stopped at 15%, but I probably could have hit 9 hours screen time if I let drain a bit more.
For reference, I didn't have mobile data connected as I was on Wi-Fi the entire time. Limited use of the phone, as you can see by the processes.
I am fairly new to whole rooting/unlocking/flashing aspect of Android, but boy am I glad I took the jump.
Looks amazing tho what Rom is it?
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So you turned your screen on and let it sit for 17 hours? Not really a "true" benchmark of battery but impressive none the less. Go post this in the battery thread and troll on all the other phones' battery thread saying the HOX is superior
You didn't even use the phone. I can leave my screen on overnight too and see 8 hours screen time. That's hardly "insane" or thread worthy for that matter.
Quit hatin guys....have you had a previous device that could do this? I haven't.
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I agree.. I just got the phone as well.. I traded my Samsung Galaxy S3 in for this phone.. and I'm beginning to regret my decision, I could leave the Galaxy off like this guy did and get 1 day 11 hours and 13 mins, obviously from time to time just checking the basics like if I've missed a call or new messages.. and I am happy with that.. but this phone I try doing the same usage and I can get the 11 hours, but not the extra day of usage.. so I'm really disappointed in my decision so far.. this weekend when I get paid again, I'm probably going to trade it back in for the SGS3 .. I love Sense, and I love the update to 4.0.4 Software version 2.20.502.7 It made the phone a hell of a lot more usable in day to day usage.. but it's still not enough to trump the SGS3..
However, if someone can give me good reasons to convince me to stick with the 1X please feel free, it'll save me another $100.. lol.. :laugh:
Yea battery life is important, I was gonna get Galaxy note but instead I got one x... Lol da battery life isn't that significant..
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sledgeharvy said:
I agree.. I just got the phone as well.. I traded my Samsung Galaxy S3 in for this phone.. and I'm beginning to regret my decision, I could leave the Galaxy off like this guy did and get 1 day 11 hours and 13 mins, obviously from time to time just checking the basics like if I've missed a call or new messages.. and I am happy with that.. but this phone I try doing the same usage and I can get the 11 hours, but not the extra day of usage.. so I'm really disappointed in my decision so far.. this weekend when I get paid again, I'm probably going to trade it back in for the SGS3 .. I love Sense, and I love the update to 4.0.4 Software version 2.20.502.7 It made the phone a hell of a lot more usable in day to day usage.. but it's still not enough to trump the SGS3..
However, if someone can give me good reasons to convince me to stick with the 1X please feel free, it'll save me another $100.. lol.. :laugh:
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I find it odd you're getting better battery life on the S3 than on the One X, since almost everyone seems to find them fairly comparable. I assume you have the exact same apps installed on both?
Yeah, I'm very specific.. there are certain apps i can't live without and theme-ing i love looking at... I hear it's due to the optimization of the UI.. but I use Nova Launcher anyways.. so it shouldn't really matter.. but I think it has to do with how fast the phones put themselves into "Dormancy mode".. but who knows. well.. other than actual "Developers".. lol.
But I'm can't help but notice the minor differences between the 2 phones.. like another that I just got fed up with is the fact that this phone appears to've been made for Right handers, I'm a lefty, and I can just notice the differences, but anyhow. enough about the phones little foibles ..
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I just got fed up with is the fact that this phone appears to've been made for Right handers, I'm a lefty, and I can just notice the differences
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That's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've seen said on these forums about the one X. I'm lefty, it works perfect. Fyi, most of the world is right handed.
I'm right handed
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Sense is a battery hog. Everyone knows it and HTC have done things to lessen the strain on the battery but a SG3 with an extended battery and an aosp ROM is going to give better battery life. That is just a fact. Is the extra battery life worth giving up a way better screen and form factor...that's up to each person. I would rather have the one X.
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That's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've seen said on these forums about the one X. I'm lefty, it works perfect. Fyi, most of the world is right handed.
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Dude that's hilarious.. Even I had to laugh at that.. I know it sounds dumb, but if you look at where everything is, in comparison to the SGS3. Try holding the 1X with your left hand and try pressing the Volume rockers, or the Power button.. It's awkward to do,.. And Yes, I completely agree that the majority of the world are Right handed.. but even Apple got it right, try Google-ing the photo for the iPhone Guess what hand they are holding the phone with.. lol.. :silly: j/k but honestly..I do like the phone.. I'm just trying to justify trading the phone back in for the SGS3 to myself, and also pointing out certain things I've noticed.. trust me.. I did the same thing with the SGS3 right before I got rid of it.. I came up with any excuse to get rid of it, and now I want it back.. goes to show you, "Some people just don't know what they really want." ha ha..
Now see I'm a lefty....and I have to disagree here..
Obviously everything is made for righties...but honestly try holding the phone in your right hand and try to hit the power button....I can't do it.
In my left hand it fits perfect so my thumb is on the upper left side and index finger is perfectly aligned to hit the power button. In this same position my middle and ring finger line up perfect for the volume rockers.
Maybe I've just adapted to a righties world....but the hox gives me no issues at all...
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ptesmoke said:
Now see I'm a lefty....and I have to disagree here..
Obviously everything is made for righties...but honestly try holding the phone in your right hand and try to hit the power button....I can't do it.
In my left hand it fits perfect so my thumb is on the upper left side and index finger is perfectly aligned to hit the power button. In this same position my middle and ring finger line up perfect for the volume rockers.
Maybe I've just adapted to a righties world....but the hox gives me no issues at all...
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Ah, okay, I see how you're holding it.. and yes that does help, up until you actually start scrolling around or texting on the phone and you have to reposition your hands, and that's fine, once you get accustomed to that method.. I'll have to give that a shot for the next couple of days..
Like I said, I'm trying to give this phone a real shot.. so I appreciate all the comments and suggestions..
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Ah, okay, I see how you're holding it.. and yes that does help, up until you actually start scrolling around or texting on the phone and you have to reposition your hands, and that's fine, once you get accustomed to that method.. I'll have to give that a shot for the next couple of days..
Like I said, I'm trying to give this phone a real shot.. so I appreciate all the comments and suggestions..
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NP! Glad I could help!
Now when it comes to scrolling...I use my right hand on the right side...thumb under the bottom right corner,middle finger on top right, index finger used for screen interactions for where left hand won't reach...
The same time on the left side I have my index on top left and the rest resting on the back of the device and use my left thumb for scrolling and clicking what I can't reach I use my index from the right...or I'll take my left hand completely off and support it with my right thumb and middle finger and use my left index to scroll etc
Hope that was somewhat useful!
once I need to type a lot I'll switch to landscape usually which is a whole new ball game.
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So wait, if you're left handed you should hold the phone with your left? I'm right handed and hold the phone usually always in my right hand.
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Relevant.
Getting back to the original purpose of this thread, I also have seen major battery life increases on CM10. I set 192MHz/1242MHz as my min/max processor speeds, and Ondemand as the CPU governor. With this setup I never get below 50% after a full day out without charging. Admittedly, I use my phone mostly for audio, so the screen isn't on as much as some other people. Even so, CM10 is a marked improvement over any Sense-based ROM. I don't know if I'll ever go back to any ROM that isn't AOSP based!
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But I'm can't help but notice the minor differences between the 2 phones.. like another that I just got fed up with is the fact that this phone appears to've been made for Right handers, I'm a lefty, and I can just notice the differences, but anyhow. enough about the phones little foibles ..
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........What? This is not true, i use the phone and i'm a lefty (otherwise mainly right handed.. not sure why :-/)
Anyways, i've never had problems handling this phone with my left hand, in fact, i can only handle it with my left hand :-/

[Q] Nexus 5, G2, HTC One and S4 in terms of one handed usage?

I used to have an SII, and then jumped on the large screen bandwagon (after using it in a store) thinking it wouldn't affect me much. Fast forward one year after my Note II's purchase, if there is one thing I want in my next phone, it is to be able to use it with one hand easily.
One handed usage - Reach all points on a phone, including all the navigational buttons without shuffling or moving the phone in your hands.
Now I have already tried the S4, and I couldn't use it with one hand (Mind you, I have average sized hands, it's just not easy to do it).
My questions are for those of you who have used these devices:
1. How does one handed usage compare between the Nexus 5 and S4? Is it a huge difference?
2. How does one handed usage compare between the Nexus 5 and HTC One? Is it a huge difference?
3. How does one handed usage compare between the Nexus 5 and G2? Is it a huge difference?
P.S. I will try the Nexus 5 in stores, though it's going to be some time before it comes in stores here.
UPDATE: I tried out the HTC One and it is possible for me to use it. But even a bit bigger would be impossible. I am more concerned about how the sharp edges of the Nexus 5 make it harder to use.
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I used to have an SII, and then jumped on the large screen bandwagon (after using it in a store) thinking it wouldn't affect me much. Fast forward one year after my Note II's purchase, if there is one thing I want in my next phone, it is to be able to use it with one hand easily.
One handed usage - Reach all points on a phone, including all the navigational buttons without shuffling or moving the phone in your hands.
Now I have already tried the S4, and I couldn't use it with one hand (Mind you, I have average sized hands, it's just not easy to do it).
My questions are for those of you who have used these devices:
1. How does one handed usage compare between the Nexus 5 and S4? Is it a huge difference?
2. How does one handed usage compare between the Nexus 5 and G2? Is it a huge difference?
P.S. I will try the Nexus 5 in stores, though it's going to be some time before it comes in stores here.
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I know you didn't list it, but I previously used an HTC One (similarly sized to the S4), and I have large hands. I can use the N5/One with one hand, but I wouldn't call it "comfortable," in fact I'd call it precarious, as in order for me to reach the notification drawer with my thumb, I have to rest the phone on the remaining four fingers and reach upward with my thumb. I never use the phone one handed when not sitting down or stable.
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I know you didn't list it, but I previously used an HTC One (similarly sized to the S4), and I have large hands. I can use the N5/One with one hand, but I wouldn't call it "comfortable," in fact I'd call it precarious, as in order for me to reach the notification drawer with my thumb, I have to rest the phone on the remaining four fingers and reach upward with my thumb. I never use the phone one handed when not sitting down or stable.
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The main one for me is to be able to use it with one hand in bed while looking at the ceiling. I think that is possible with the HTC One if I install navigational buttons (I don't care for real estate, one handed use is much more important to me).
I think the Nexus 5 is great to use one handed, the bottom bezel actually provides a nice area to hold, and the phone is easy to balance.
The HTC One has a slightly smaller screen than the S4, I think. Both are comfortable to reach the whole screen, but the One is more comfortable to hold in general due to its curved shape and tapered edges.
The G2/N5 are built on very smilar specs. I would guess they use the exact same screen panel. A 5 inch screen is a bit too big for my tastes. I could use them with my hands- average size but with longer versatle fingers that are good for manipulating devices- but it wouldn't be preferable. Plus, fitting such a large phone in my pocked would be a pain.
Of the choices you list, I would suggest the S4. I own the One, and recommend that above the S4. HTC really picked up their game since the old EVO days...
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I would suggest the S4. I own the One, and recommend that above the S4.
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Wait, what?!
I can tell you this - much harder to do than my N4, about the same as a Galaxy S3.
It is however manageable, and the curved back helps.
Once I stick it in my Spigen Slim Armor, it becomes a challenge for me, no way I can reach all points on screen one handed.
I do use my N5 with one hand on my way home from work. It is possible. But I need to move the phone in my hands in order to reach the top (e.g. address bar of browser) and the bottom (navigation keys) of the screen. This is dangerous because you can drop the phone if your are not very careful.
The width of the phone is not a problem for me.
I do not want to miss the large screen of the N5. But I am now 100% certain that I do not want an even larger phone.
-Tiz- said:
I do use my N5 with one hand on my way home from work. It is possible. But I need to move the phone in my hands in order to reach the top (e.g. address bar of browser) and the bottom (navigation keys) of the screen. This is dangerous because you can drop the phone if your are not very careful.
The width of the phone is not a problem for me.
I do not want to miss the large screen of the N5. But I am now 100% certain that I do not want an even larger phone.
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Can you compare it to Nexus 4, S4, S3, or G2?
Getting to the top isn't easy even with big hands. Which is why I HAVE NO IDEA why so many devs put their bars AT THE TOP OF APPS.
Anyway, might go back and try out Nova launcher so i can swipe down for notficiation bar as Google refuses to implement gestures.
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Getting to the top isn't easy even with big hands. Which is why I HAVE NO IDEA why so many devs put their bars AT THE TOP OF APPS.
Anyway, might go back and try out Nova launcher so i can swipe down for notficiation bar as Google refuses to implement gestures.
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That's how I am using my Note II right now.
darkgoon3r96 said:
I used to have an SII, and then jumped on the large screen bandwagon (after using it in a store) thinking it wouldn't affect me much. Fast forward one year after my Note II's purchase, if there is one thing I want in my next phone, it is to be able to use it with one hand easily.
One handed usage - Reach all points on a phone, including all the navigational buttons without shuffling or moving the phone in your hands.
Now I have already tried the S4, and I couldn't use it with one hand (Mind you, I have average sized hands, it's just not easy to do it).
My questions are for those of you who have used these devices:
1. How does one handed usage compare between the Nexus 5 and S4? Is it a huge difference?
2. How does one handed usage compare between the Nexus 5 and G2? Is it a huge difference?
P.S. I will try the Nexus 5 in stores, though it's going to be some time before it comes in stores here.
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the swiftkey keyboard just got an update that includes a 'compact keyboard' that pushes it to one side or the other. at first I laughed at such a feature, i mean it looks out of place. but i think it's a very good feature for people who like the large screens but want to only use one hand to type
Enddo said:
the swiftkey keyboard just got an update that includes a 'compact keyboard' that pushes it to one side or the other. at first I laughed at such a feature, i mean it looks out of place. but i think it's a very good feature for people who like the large screens but want to only use one hand to type
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I don't have problems with the width. I have problems with the height.
I tell you its much easier to wield one handed then my previous Note 2. I was getting tired of hearing "what is that?" "it's so big" and it's even worse hearing people remark about my phone. So I wanted to downsize my handset and its a great size. I can one hand it for the most part but a little stretch for the top and bottom areas...
Itchiee said:
I tell you its much easier to wield one handed then my previous Note 2. I was getting tired of hearing "what is that?" "it's so big" and it's even worse hearing people remark about my phone. So I wanted to downsize my handset and its a great size. I can one hand it for the most part but a little stretch for the top and bottom areas...
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So you can reach all the areas without shuffling the phone in your hand?
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So you can reach all the areas without shuffling the phone in your hand?
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Almost, the top and bottom are a slight stretch but my thumb can reach the other side again. So i can use swype one handed which was an issue with my note 2.
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I jumped directly from S2 two nexus 5..most of the time I can reach all parts of the screen with one hand(thumb).. perfect size, not too big like note 3 or too small like iPhone 5s..
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allyrocky said:
I jumped directly from S2 two nexus 5..most of the time I can reach all parts of the screen with one hand(thumb).. perfect size, not too big like note 3 or too small like iPhone 5s..
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At what times are you not able to reach all parts of the screen?
Say I'm using left hand and trying to reach setting in notification bar.. I won't be able to do that.. But don't find it an issue since I'm right handed
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allyrocky said:
Say I'm using left hand and trying to reach setting in notification bar.. I won't be able to do that.. But don't find it an issue since I'm right handed
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Setting is actually a big button on stock android.. When using right handed, can you reach the new tab button on chrome at the top left? Can you also reach the profile picture in the notification tray (the button next to brightness)?

The chin...

Does anyone LIKE the size of the chin? I found myself instantly pleased with the added area to handle my phone. I actually left the sim in my 5x for a while to be sure. But I've never noticed how much I use the top and bottom bezels in portrait view. Especially when. Showing someone pictures or portrait videos. I dunno... I'm loving it. Perfect size where my thumbs never bumps the touchscreen.
Am I the only one?
I have no problem with it either. Take a look at the iPhone 6, which I have, and the bezel is about the same size as the Pixel. Actually the whole phone looks similar with a very similar feel. The Pixel is a little larger screen dimension wise but both are beautiful devices. And let's be honest here, if you can compare to an iPhone you're saying something. This device is a jewel if the battery can hold up.
I just got my Pixel today, and I wish the chin was a bit smaller to be honest. The onscreen buttons take up a good chunk of space that I feel makes it look a bit...iPodish? That's for sure not an accurate assessment, but it is what I think when I look at the chin of the phone especially. Like I said, first day and all. I love everything else about this phone though. I even think the price is justifiable.
I actually like the chin too. I find it helps my thumb reach the home button much more comfortably when using it one handed, rather than over extending my thumb to reach the bottom of my phone.
Plus it gives the phone a very minimal/elegant look. So no complaints from me!
No complaints here! Keeps the phone looking balanced
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I like the large chin. Im with you, I think its nice for handling the phone.
Zer0_ said:
I actually like the chin too. I find it helps my thumb reach the home button much more comfortably when using it one handed, rather than over extending my thumb to reach the bottom of my phone.
Plus it gives the phone a very minimal/elegant look. So no complaints from me!
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Yes same here... While at first I thought it was huge and unsightly, when I think about it, I wouldn't want my thumb to have to reach any further down to get to the nav bar. It keeps the nav bar at a perfect height. Still seems kind of boring though. But I'm also glad they didn't put any branding there so kind of a conundrum for me.
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I dont mind the bottom too. It's not super noticeable and I agree that it makes the nav bar easier to reach.
I just wish people would stop calling it a "chin" - it's a bezel, not a chin. Look at the original G1 for a "chin".
bobby janow said:
I have no problem with it either. Take a look at the iPhone 6, which I have, and the bezel is about the same size as the Pixel. Actually the whole phone looks similar with a very similar feel. The Pixel is a little larger screen dimension wise but both are beautiful devices. And let's be honest here, if you can compare to an iPhone you're saying something. This device is a jewel if the battery can hold up.
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Totally... A lot of people seem to want this phone to be the opposite of iPhone. But we already had that... The Nexus lineup. Sure some were better than others but they were never trying to compete with anyone directly. Just good enough with a great price.
mmaaddict78 said:
I just got my Pixel today, and I wish the chin was a bit smaller to be honest. The onscreen buttons take up a good chunk of space that I feel makes it look a bit...iPodish? That's for sure not an accurate assessment, but it is what I think when I look at the chin of the phone especially. Like I said, first day and all. I love everything else about this phone though. I even think the price is justifiable.
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Just got mine last night. And I honestly looked at it and said 'why is everyone complaining about the chin?' to my girlfriend.
I agree, I am totally satisfied with the price now that the phone is in hand. Speed/Feel is amazing.
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I actually like the chin too. I find it helps my thumb reach the home button much more comfortably when using it one handed, rather than over extending my thumb to reach the bottom of my phone.
Plus it gives the phone a very minimal/elegant look. So no complaints from me!
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I never noticed that the home button was more comfortable on the Pixel until I used my 5X and Pixel side by side.. thanks for pointing that out! Of course I can't say much about the XL cause I didn't get that one.
brangalm said:
I dont mind the bottom too. It's not super noticeable and I agree that it makes the nav bar easier to reach.
I just wish people would stop calling it a "chin" - it's a bezel, not a chin. Look at the original G1 for a "chin".
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HAH. I've been Androiding since the G1... and yea, that thing had a Joe Swanson Chin for real.
I just joined the chin lingo cause everyone else seemed to be doing it... Peer pressure!
this is #13 of a long list of reasons i'm returning the Pixel. this phone makes so little sense to me i cannot even wrap my head around it, probably because i don't talk TO my damn phone. leave the AI for the kiddos. going back to my ****ing galaxy S3. maybe HTC 10 after that. dunno.
Now that I have my phone, in person, I don't mind it. I prefer balance/symmetry and the chin provides that. I would prefer a speaker there instead, but oh well …
The chin I actually don't notice. Maybe it's because I have the 5' black version. To me, the chin makes it better for one handed use. The galaxy s7 was hard for one handed use for me anyway. I think the chin thing is really blown out of proportion. Just my two cents.
In theory I'd like to see a smaller chin/ bezel and increase the screen size while keeping the overall size the same.
In practice, I don't mind the chin. I don't notice it at all.
I hear y'all but that Jay Leno chin and fivhead are fails to me. I do appreciate all the reasons why you like them but the could have put like 8 speakers in that space. Subs, tweeters and all that! Still love the phone though.
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Looks weird I'd rather have it to help with holding the phone and keeping the navbar at a decent height
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The bottom bezel adds balance, symmetry and consistency to the device.
I am still upset it gave up the speaker grill. But sure look uber minimalistic.
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troy` said:
Does anyone LIKE the size of the chin? I found myself instantly pleased with the added area to handle my phone. I actually left the sim in my 5x for a while to be sure. But I've never noticed how much I use the top and bottom bezels in portrait view. Especially when. Showing someone pictures or portrait videos. I dunno... I'm loving it. Perfect size where my thumbs never bumps the touchscreen.
Am I the only one?
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Jay approves..
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Now that I have my phone, in person, I don't mind it. I prefer balance/symmetry and the chin provides that. I would prefer a speaker there instead, but oh well …
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subhani said:
The bottom bezel adds balance, symmetry and consistency to the device.
I am still upset it gave up the speaker grill. But sure look uber minimalistic.
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Totally agree with both of you. I think it really adds the balance. When I saw it at first I wondered, but once I used it I don't mind a bit. I use headphones so I dont care about huge speakers.
Coming from the BB Z30 I am use to the chin and prefer it becuase of the way I hold the phone and navigate with my thumb. Now if only google would pick up a bb 10 device and take down some notes. Like moving things down low so I dont have to stretch my hand to the top.
twilk73 said:
Coming from the BB Z30 I am use to the chin and prefer it becuase of the way I hold the phone and navigate with my thumb. Now if only google would pick up a bb 10 device and take down some notes. Like moving things down low so I dont have to stretch my hand to the top.
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Same here, I only use my phones one-handed, whether it's the Pixel, Notes, iPhone 7+, etc. The extra space is where my palm digs into. The BlackBerry Classic is the only device I have to use two hands, but da*n, that physical keyboard is sooo worth it.

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