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Can I restore apps after flashing CM10?

I'm rooted and running stock 4.1.1 on Kernel 3.0.31. I would like to flash CM10 and have a couple of questions.
1. If I use Titanium Backup to save all my apps and data, can I restore them after flashing CM10 without any issues?
2. I beleive CM10 comes with it's own kernel, please confirm.
3. If CM10 comes with it's own kernel, is there a better kernel out there or is ibetter to stick with the one with CM10?
4. Should I just flash a stock CM10 nightly and gapps or is there a better custome rom with CM10 built in?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks ::laugh:

snyperr said:
I'm rooted and running stock 4.1.1 on Kernel 3.0.31. I would like to flash CM10 and have a couple of questions.
1. If I use Titanium Backup to save all my apps and data, can I restore them after flashing CM10 without any issues?
2. I beleive CM10 comes with it's own kernel, please confirm.
3. If CM10 comes with it's own kernel, is there a better kernel out there or is ibetter to stick with the one with CM10?
4. Should I just flash a stock CM10 nightly and gapps or is there a better custome rom with CM10 built in?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks ::laugh:
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1. Should work for most apps, if not all apps
2. It does come with a Kernel
3. It's up to you, Matr1x and Air kernel are good alternatives
4. I like Androxide for a CM10 like rom. It's stable enough and has most of the good features

petenatas said:
1. Should work for most apps, if not all apps
2. It does come with a Kernel
3. It's up to you, Matr1x and Air kernel are good alternatives
4. I like Androxide for a CM10 like rom. It's stable enough and has most of the good features
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Thanks petenatas!
Besides wiping all the caches, do I need to also wipe all data/user info? This will mean on first boot up i would need to re-enter all my user info, right?

snyperr said:
Thanks petenatas!
Besides wiping all the caches, do I need to also wipe all data/user info? This will mean on first boot up i would need to re-enter all my user info, right?
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If you have CWM, do a data/factory reset before the installation, else CM10 will not boot
Yes, it's a complete re-installation. Your SD card will be safe though
You can also re-install from Play Store in My Apps / All
But if you enter you Google account at start-up and set up your wi-fi, it should re-install all the apps on it's own

petenatas said:
If you have CWM, do a data/factory reset before the installation, else CM10 will not boot
Yes, it's a complete re-installation. Your SD card will be safe though
You can also re-install from Play Store in My Apps / All
But if you enter you Google account at start-up and set up your wi-fi, it should re-install all the apps on it's own
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Excellent, thanks again for your quick help!

snyperr said:
I'm rooted and running stock 4.1.1 on Kernel 3.0.31. I would like to flash CM10 and have a couple of questions.
1. If I use Titanium Backup to save all my apps and data, can I restore them after flashing CM10 without any issues?
2. I beleive CM10 comes with it's own kernel, please confirm.
3. If CM10 comes with it's own kernel, is there a better kernel out there or is ibetter to stick with the one with CM10?
4. Should I just flash a stock CM10 nightly and gapps or is there a better custome rom with CM10 built in?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks ::laugh:
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I use Titanium for the apps I really need the data for. I will stop all updates through the store as soon as I get on a new ROM. Get TB restore apps with essential data. I will often just go through the store for others since I have had a few issues in the past doing everything through TB (lag, not working properly, Force closing).
I often use Matr1x cfs or bfs (CFS is a nice overall scheduler, with nice stability and it is good for a multitasker. BFS is a performance scheduler giving more performance to the currently running app, like a game. So if you aren’t really a multitasker or if you play a lot of games, BFS is a better choice. -- source http://matr1xkernels.com/category/matr1x-kernels/)
Thalamus is very stable, more stockish so there is less extras (BLN, BLD, OC, etc) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1651756
Try CM10 but I suggest you try many and decide for yourself. Ebvery phone is different and every user wants/likes different things as thay become "flashaholics" Just remember there is no "best ROM" Everything has some sort of bug.
stempox has an amazing always up to date complation of ROMs and Kernels http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721856
Finally clean install:
if you get a cluster f*#@ of problems then clean install. It isn't that hard. Use Titanium Backup and good to go.
In Recovery:
1. wipe data/factory reset (this formats /data, /cache and .android_secure on sd)
2. format /system, /boot
this leaves you with only bootloader, recovery and radio...dalvik-cache resides on /data, so it's gone already.
3. flash rom
4. gapps & custom-kernel (if needed). No need to let the phone boot & settle before flashing them (most custom-kernels have a script that automatically wipes /cache & dalvik during kernel-install)
5. reboot
6. Run TB -- restore missing apps with data --1st option under restore
just updating rom:
1. flash rom-zip
2. wipe /cache and dalvik-cache
3. reboot
Do this before reporting any issues on the thread since the problems are often related to this and not the ROM or kernel.

jayjay3333 said:
I use Titanium for the apps I really need the data for. I will stop all updates through the store as soon as I get on a new ROM. Get TB restore apps with essential data. I will often just go through the store for others since I have had a few issues in the past doing everything through TB (lag, not working properly, Force closing).
I often use Matr1x cfs or bfs (CFS is a nice overall scheduler, with nice stability and it is good for a multitasker. BFS is a performance scheduler giving more performance to the currently running app, like a game. So if you aren’t really a multitasker or if you play a lot of games, BFS is a better choice. -- source http://matr1xkernels.com/category/matr1x-kernels/)
Thalamus is very stable, more stockish so there is less extras (BLN, BLD, OC, etc) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1651756
Try CM10 but I suggest you try many and decide for yourself. Ebvery phone is different and every user wants/likes different things as thay become "flashaholics" Just remember there is no "best ROM" Everything has some sort of bug.
stempox has an amazing always up to date complation of ROMs and Kernels http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721856
Finally clean install:
if you get a cluster f*#@ of problems then clean install. It isn't that hard. Use Titanium Backup and good to go.
In Recovery:
1. wipe data/factory reset (this formats /data, /cache and .android_secure on sd)
2. format /system, /boot
this leaves you with only bootloader, recovery and radio...dalvik-cache resides on /data, so it's gone already.
3. flash rom
4. gapps & custom-kernel (if needed). No need to let the phone boot & settle before flashing them (most custom-kernels have a script that automatically wipes /cache & dalvik during kernel-install)
5. reboot
6. Run TB -- restore missing apps with data --1st option under restore
just updating rom:
1. flash rom-zip
2. wipe /cache and dalvik-cache
3. reboot
Do this before reporting any issues on the thread since the problems are often related to this and not the ROM or kernel.
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Wow, thanks jayjay. That's a ton of great info! I know what I'm doing tomorrow night! Cheers!

[Q] CWM Recovery Question On SGH-I727

Hello, I have recently been able to install and make a backup of my SGH-I727 using CWM. I have also purchased Titanium backup and made application backups.
I have a few specific questions that I have not been able to find an answer to :
1) Will a CWM backup contain all the apps that are on the phone as well? Meaning, if I restore with a backup image I made, will the
unit be exactly as it was before the backup (i.e. home pages, apps, etc)?
2) If the answer to #1 is YES, then what is the use of Titanium backup/restore?
3) I saw on a YOUTUBE video a user "teaching" how to use CWM, before the RESTORE, he formatted the /cache, /data and /system partitions, then did the RESTORE. Is this needed? required? recommended? best practice?
4) I have gb 2.3.5 on the device now and it works fantastic. I would like to try ICS but before I go there, I want to make sure I have a way to get back to what I have now. Is a CWM backup all I need?
5) Will installing a stock Kernel (ICS AT&T in my case) get rid of CWM Recovery? Or will it be there when I want to go back to the backed up version?
6) Lastly, and maybe this one should not be in this thread but lets try : I am learning about Android, and I see references to the "modem/radio" files for each device. Will a CWM backup also backup the radio/modem code in case the ICS install does not go as planned?
Thank you!!

I think you need to do more reading. Many of these questions have been answered.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

1. Yes a cwm or twrp b/u will put all your apps back just like you never left.!
2. You use titanium when you flash a new rom because of course the new rom won't contain your apps.
3. I've done lots and lots of restores and never wiped first....but wouldn't hurt i guess.
4.yup.!
5.no the recovery remains untouched.
6.I don't think the radio gets backed up or restored. But it's not critical to the rom operation and can be reflashed when ever..

calderonr said:
Hello, I have recently been able to install and make a backup of my SGH-I727 using CWM. I have also purchased Titanium backup and made application backups.
I have a few specific questions that I have not been able to find an answer to :
1) Will a CWM backup contain all the apps that are on the phone as well? Meaning, if I restore with a backup image I made, will the
unit be exactly as it was before the backup (i.e. home pages, apps, etc)?
2) If the answer to #1 is YES, then what is the use of Titanium backup/restore?
3) I saw on a YOUTUBE video a user "teaching" how to use CWM, before the RESTORE, he formatted the /cache, /data and /system partitions, then did the RESTORE. Is this needed? required? recommended? best practice?
4) I have gb 2.3.5 on the device now and it works fantastic. I would like to try ICS but before I go there, I want to make sure I have a way to get back to what I have now. Is a CWM backup all I need?
5) Will installing a stock Kernel (ICS AT&T in my case) get rid of CWM Recovery? Or will it be there when I want to go back to the backed up version?
6) Lastly, and maybe this one should not be in this thread but lets try : I am learning about Android, and I see references to the "modem/radio" files for each device. Will a CWM backup also backup the radio/modem code in case the ICS install does not go as planned?
Thank you!!
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1. 99.9% back to what you had
2. if you install a new rom you can use titu to restore your apps and settings, 99.9% of apps should work, but some people like reinstalling thier apps fresh and not from backups
3. i wipe b4 i reinstall from backup, but dont wipe/format your sdcards, thats where all the backups of cwm and titu are, good practice is to backup your sdcards onto your computer, that reminds me, i need todo that
4. yes except for the radio
5. if you mean stock firmware , then yes custom recovery gone, you will get everything back to stock - recovery, kernel, rom, radio. if you mean just the kernel then no
6. no cwm/twrp do not backup or wipe the radio , you will still have what you had b4, but the ics stock firmware install you will get another radio and should be fine, worry about flashing the firmware correctly(do the wipes), radio is easy to flash/reflash with custom recovery(cwm/twrp)

vincom said:
1. 99.9% back to what you had
2. if you install a new rom you can use titu to restore your apps and settings, 99.9% of apps should work, but some people like reinstalling thier apps fresh and not from backups
3. i wipe b4 i reinstall from backup, but dont wipe/format your sdcards, thats where all the backups of cwm and titu are, good practice is to backup your sdcards onto your computer, that reminds me, i need todo that
4. yes except for the radio
5. if you mean stock firmware , then yes custom recovery gone, you will get everything back to stock - recovery, kernel, rom, radio. if you mean just the kernel then no
6. no cwm/twrp do not backup or wipe the radio , you will still have what you had b4, but the ics stock firmware install you will get another radio and should be fine, worry about flashing the firmware correctly(do the wipes), radio is easy to flash/reflash with custom recovery(cwm/twrp)
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Hi Vincom and all,
Thanks for the responses....Very useful and I think I am putting all the dots together now. Before I ask this let me say that I am a computer programmer as well but for IBM mainframe systems, so I am a technical person but the distributed computing world (Windows/Unix/Linux, etc) is not that familiar to me, therefore these follow up questions.
I am trying to understand the difference between FIRMWARE, and ROMS and Kernels.
1A) I gather firmware is the software that drives the hardware like device drivers..correct?
2A) I also gather that the Kernel is the version of the operating system. Correct?
3A) ROM is the one that is stomping me a bit...is that the UI version? Like Gnome in Linux?
When I look at my S2, in About Phone I see the following :
Baseband Version - I727UCKJ2
Kernel Version - 2.6.35.11
Build Number GINGERBREAD.UCKJ2
4A) Lastly, when I do a CWM backup, what am I backing up? The ROM and the Kernel? Does it also back up the firmware?
Anyway thanks to all for your input and help!...I love my Android device!

Hello there, To answer a few of your questions.
1.A. Typically Firmware is a patch or software update/version that affects what the hardware is supposed to do..Google definition-Permanent software programmed into a read-only memory.
2.A. Kernel - pretty good explanation of it...
3.A. Google definition - The Android ROM is the Android operating system. This is the User interface (Sense UI in HTC phones) and the file system for maintaining contacts etc. It is composed of a Linux kernel and various add-ons to achieve specific functionality.- I would define it as a user-developed version of android if we are talking about custom ROMs.
4.A. Yes when you back up it backs up everything except the radio.
To further explain why people might use TIBU and CWM/TWRP is because most people make a full nandroid (cwm backup) for safety / oops moments or just to try out a different rom. TIBU is usually used when users go from rom to rom and dont want to mess with playstore taking its sweet time to reinstall. (only restore app/app data. NEVER RESTORE SYS DATA unless on the same version of android. the sys files are always different rom to rom or version to version)
Baseband is the Radio, Just fyi there are several different versions of radios for our phone but they are typicall Version specific. ie: gb radios wouldnt work on JB
Not as a troll or flame but I am just curious why you are still using GB? My advice is just to install cm10 + gapps and look up installing cyandelta from the playstore.
I offer that as a suggestion because it will update your phone autonomously. also review the forums for which radios are best for cm (I'm still using uclf6 even though there are newer versions)

[Q] questions to guide me in my phone

Dear all I want to change my ROM but by your experience I need to have answers for these questions
to have the decision to start or not please help me and thank you all .
First I have LG P500
android : 2.2.2 V10h
kernal version : 2.6.32.9
the phone is rooted
ROM manager is installed and I made a backup in CWM
1) is there any other backup should I have ?
2) is there any risk by installing a new ROM by the CWM / if yes what is the best way ?
3) if i have backed up the Ndrive through titanium backup can I have back in a new ROM ?
4) if I didn't like the new ROM with CWM can I have my old one as it was with Ndrive working good ?
5) what is the best ROM for my phone ?
Thank all for helping me
Note : most what I care is the Ndrive because I use it alot and it help me alot .

if you installed CWM and did a backup, is OK
no risk installing a new rom trough CWM, I have inslalled alot(I didn't try other recovery but if you want someting else search forum for it) any recovery is good, alot of people says that CWM is a liitle old and have some problems, but if it works for you, use it, I didn't have any problem, for installing new rom read careffuly the OP instructions, all of the post(do not miss anything), and it will work, read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 but not all roms are included, for that search http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=839 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1545
everything backuped with TITANIUM can be restored if you didn't erased it from sd card, by formating or partitioning(one more tip is to go in titanium folder in sdcard an extract apk manualy and install it), trough TITANIUM install app+data, after restoring do not open app, chooze ok and let TITANIUM restore data for app
yes you can restore the original rom by CWM but some times it will not work propertly, better try another custom rom that you will like(there are alot of them, serch and read feedback)
this is rr0yy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4689008) post in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876951
"Go to your SDcard.. search and go to clockworkmod folder.. go to backup.. now whichever file you see.. Rename it xyz or anything WITHOUT any space!!
Try restoring then!! And keep a small name!! Dont use any special characters like $ & # " credits to him(good hint)
if you encounter problems with restoring a rom trough CWM
I like ICS, but you can search to see what suits you, ICS is good for O1 despite of ram usage, I like it more than GB(old), JB is too large for me and my phone memory

thanks but one more
grigtm said:
if you installed CWM and did a backup, is OK
no risk installing a new rom trough CWM, I have inslalled alot(I didn't try other recovery but if you want someting else search forum for it) any recovery is good, alot of people says that CWM is a liitle old and have some problems, but if it works for you, use it, I didn't have any problem, for installing new rom read careffuly the OP instructions, all of the post(do not miss anything), and it will work, read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 but not all roms are included, for that search http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=839 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1545
everything backuped with TITANIUM can be restored if you didn't erased it from sd card, by formating or partitioning(one more tip is to go in titanium folder in sdcard an extract apk manualy and install it), trough TITANIUM install app+data, after restoring do not open app, chooze ok and let TITANIUM restore data for app
yes you can restore the original rom by CWM but some times it will not work propertly, better try another custom rom that you will like(there are alot of them, serch and read feedback)
this is rr0yy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4689008) post in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876951
"Go to your SDcard.. search and go to clockworkmod folder.. go to backup.. now whichever file you see.. Rename it xyz or anything WITHOUT any space!!
Try restoring then!! And keep a small name!! Dont use any special characters like $ & # " credits to him(good hint)
if you encounter problems with restoring a rom trough CWM
I like ICS, but you can search to see what suits you, ICS is good for O1 despite of ram usage, I like it more than GB(old), JB is too large for me and my phone memory
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thanks but one more question the app ndrive is it now working good with new ROM ??

You shouldn't have any compatibility problems with NDrive. I'd recommend that you flash a rom, test the apps you need and if they don't work, flash another rom.
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda app-developers app

majdikabb said:
thanks but one more question the app ndrive is it now working good with new ROM ??
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I have tested NDrive on lots of ICS roms and it's working fine, haven't tried it on JB tho.

[Q] Valhalla Black - Gapps?

Been on CM7 & CM9 for a while but had to go back to GB because I need wifi calling most of the time. I'm gonna try VB...I've read all zillion pages in the threads and have 3 zips on my HD ready to copy over: the ROM, Adrenaline Injector, & the CWM version of Antonx's kernel (I'm currently using the Heimdall version of his kernel).
But I can't find a listing for the Gapps file (unless I missed it). I do have a backup copy of the Market 3.4.4 apk...am I gonna have to go to Google & install them one by one...or can I restore from Titanium Backup in case there in no Gapps file?
As usual, thanks.

No need to flash GApps, it's included in the ROM.

Infuse 4G on Froyo upgrade help

This second hand Infuse is running Froyo.uckh1 2.2.1 and kernel 2.6.32.9 and I've managed to root it, have green CMW 2.5.1.2 installed and rom manager installed (free ver). My goal is a stable newer stable custom ROM while keeping all the main functions working. the phone has no data to back up. I have been reading a lot of posts on how to upgrade to a custom ROM and i was trying to avoid having to flash it if possible (would like to stay with android)and let rom manager do it. can that be done? also which one should i try ? i know that this has been answered many times but i don't want to brick it and was looking for some guidance.
Thanks a lot and happy new year to all.

How did you root this phone...I was just given this phone and can't root it. My other phone is a galaxy 3 and that was a piece of cake...please help.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using xda app-developers app

mikeka said:
This second hand Infuse is running Froyo.uckh1 2.2.1 and kernel 2.6.32.9 and I've managed to root it, have green CMW 2.5.1.2 installed and rom manager installed (free ver). My goal is a stable newer stable custom ROM while keeping all the main functions working. the phone has no data to back up. I have been reading a lot of posts on how to upgrade to a custom ROM and i was trying to avoid having to flash it if possible (would like to stay with android)and let rom manager do it. can that be done? also which one should i try ? i know that this has been answered many times but i don't want to brick it and was looking for some guidance.
Thanks a lot and happy new year to all.
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Solution 1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705260
Solution 2:
READ: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293751
I don't know anything about green CWM red is available on the link provided though if it becomes an issue. You'll need a CWM flashable ROM and it sounds like you want a cleaned up stock version, others seems to have themes and other options you may not want, I didn't, performance is fine but I really didn't want to change the look. In that case you'll want this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508619
You'll find a working link in the last few pages of the thread.
Download it to your download directory on the SD which is built in the phone.
Also download this kernel:
2013.04.30-CWM-Synthesis-1.2Ghz.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25724526#post25724526
or this one:
DD_03042012.zip - [Click for QR Code] (6.31 MB, 3966 views)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212795
In CWM wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, format system, format data, format cache, install zip from SD card select ROM and flash then install zip from SD card select kernel and flash then reboot you'll have to uninstall the ATT stuff yourself or not, be careful that you don't remove apps needed by the system to function or by other system apps, most of the stuff with ATT in the name is safe and you need to remove tethering manager to be able to ever tether. Titanium backup root (TB) can uninstall them, be sure to first backup your new stock ROM in CWM before you start making changes because if you rip out the wrong apps you'll need to restore to boot. Use TB to backup an app if your not sure so you might not have to do a full restore. Be patient during boots.