Hello, I'm a bit new here so pardon me if this is in the wrong place.
About three weeks ago I've acquired a Glacier to replace an old Sidekick 4G. I've been trying to install custom ROMs for a while now, but they've all ended in failure. I've gone through several upon several post from various sites, most of them here in XDA. Ive done everything I've seen to get this phone a custom ROM. I've made a goldcard to downgrade which failed, I've installed CWM version 5.something, I've got permaroot on my device and I've unlocked the bootloader through HTCdevs' site. I cannot get a custom ROM to install without the package being signed, and even if I install a signed ROM, my device bricks and refuses to load past initial bootscreen. I've even left my device on entire night after flashing a signed ROM to see if it would load past the bootscreen, but it won't. I'm also still a bit new to the custom tom community as a whole, as the o ly device I've had experience customizing and flashing was the SK4G.
Can anyone here please help me? I've gone through almost every single thread on XDA regarding this phone and achieving S=Off, but nothing has worked. I honestly don't even know how I managed permaroot on here since it seems to.be difficult to do from what I've read.
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I think if you unlocked your bootloader (s-off) with HTC dev you have to flash the boot.img separately. The boot.img
Is the kernel. Don't worry bro I'm a noob too can I still remember how frustrated I was while rooting. Expecially cause I have the bad emmc and I have the Canadian version of the mytouch which you have to root a different way
What rom do you want? If you open the open there will be the boot.img and extract it and flash it separately
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HI There,
I too had a few hiccups when trying to load custom Roms. I also tried to use the Unlocker through HTC, and it didn't work. It says it unlocks the BOOTLOADER, but I still had S-ON. The only way I could permanently root the Glacier with S-OFF was to downgrade to 2.2 then root.
When you go into Bootloader, does it show you have S-OFF?
N_otori0us_ said:
I think if you unlocked your bootloader (s-off) with HTC dev you have to flash the boot.img separately. The boot.img
Is the kernel. Don't worry bro I'm a noob too can I still remember how frustrated I was while rooting. Expecially cause I have the bad emmc and I have the Canadian version of the mytouch which you have to root a different way
What rom do you want? If you open the open there will be the boot.img and extract it and flash it separately
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I was looking at this rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383629 , it was the first I've tried. My bootloader is still S=On, but the bootloader itself is unlocked. I dunno if that makes any sense, I'm just reading what I see on my bootloader screen.
Anyway, after flashing the boot.img for the rom I wanted, my phone fully booted up and is now working. Thank you very much for you help.
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HI There,
I too had a few hiccups when trying to load custom Roms. I also tried to use the Unlocker through HTC, and it didn't work. It says it unlocks the BOOTLOADER, but I still had S-ON. The only way I could permanently root the Glacier with S-OFF was to downgrade to 2.2 then root.
When you go into Bootloader, does it show you have S-OFF?
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No, and the threads I've read about downgrading to 2.2 through a goldcard hasn't worked. Would getting a stock 2.2 rom for it and flashing that work?
TacoSeeker said:
No, and the threads I've read about downgrading to 2.2 through a goldcard hasn't worked. Would getting a stock 2.2 rom for it and flashing that work?
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I don't believe so. You would still need S-OFF to flash that custom ROM anyhow.
This was the only video I found that was helpful. A lot of people complain about visionary bricking devices so I guess that's the inherent risk here, but I am still going strong. You must be on 2.2 to use the /gfree method as described in the video. Also, you will have to scour the web for the visionary APK and gfree files. I can't remember where I got them.
Downgrade using the first link, then root using the second. Do a factory reset and follow the steps to downgrade on unlockr EXACTLY and you will be fine. I know it's two different guides, but I had to piece these steps together pulling bits from each to get it to work. Be careful though, as always you take responsibility if you damage your phone using any method to root.
If you run into a misc_version permission denied error during this step, it's because you pushed the whole MISC folder and need to use:
/data/local/tmp/misc_version/misc_version -s 1.00.000.0
http://theunlockr.com/2011/10/25/ho...ire-z-desire-hd-and-mytouch-4g-back-to-froyo/
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/32293-mytouch-4g-rooting-234-ota-roam/
After that, read the GUIDE TO PERMANENT ROOT S-OFF here on XDA and piece together what you are missing.
That's the best I can do without being there with you. I am sorry.
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thevindicated said:
I don't believe so. You would still need S-OFF to flash that custom ROM anyhow.
This was the only video I found that was helpful. A lot of people complain about visionary bricking devices so I guess that's the inherent risk here, but I am still going strong. You must be on 2.2 to use the /gfree method as described in the video. Also, you will have to scour the web for the visionary APK and gfree files. I can't remember where I got them.
Downgrade using the first link, then root using the second. Do a factory reset and follow the steps to downgrade on unlockr EXACTLY and you will be fine. I know it's two different guides, but I had to piece these steps together pulling bits from each to get it to work. Be careful though, as always you take responsibility if you damage your phone using any method to root.
If you run into a misc_version permission denied error during this step, it's because you pushed the whole MISC folder and need to use:
/data/local/tmp/misc_version/misc_version -s 1.00.000.0
After that, read the GUIDE TO PERMANENT ROOT S-OFF here on XDA and piece together what you are missing.
That's the best I can do without being there with you. I am sorry.
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My bootloader still says S=On, but I just got finished flashing CM7 onto my device. So I think I'm pretty much done with this thread. Thank you for all of your help.
My only other concern would be if it's possible for me to restore the /data portion of my stock rom NANDroid backup to get all of my app data back. Would that work, or would the device brick because they're two diffrent OS's?
Thats HTC Dev for you. You gotta flash the kernel after the ROM. If you have S-ON, but flashed a rom and got it to work, then you basically have S-Off, otherwise you couldn't have flashed a rom. Good luck in flashing other roms in the future bro.
TacoSeeker said:
My bootloader still says S=On, but I just got finished flashing CM7 onto my device. So I think I'm pretty much done with this thread. Thank you for all of your help.
My only other concern would be if it's possible for me to restore the /data portion of my stock rom NANDroid backup to get all of my app data back. Would that work, or would the device brick because they're two diffrent OS's?
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Use titanium backup to extract the app data from the backup you made. Don't restore the data partition.
By the way, S-Off is far superior to HTC Dev unlock. You'll figure that out sooner or later.
Originally Posted by TacoSeeker
My bootloader still says S=On, but I just got finished flashing CM7 onto my device. So I think I'm pretty much done with this thread. Thank you for all of your help.
My only other concern would be if it's possible for me to restore the /data portion of my stock rom NANDroid backup to get all of my app data back. Would that work, or would the device brick because they're two diffrent OS's?
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Use titanium backup to extract the app data from the backup you made. Don't restore the data partition.
By the way, S-Off is far superior to HTC Dev unlock. You'll figure that out sooner or later.
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Yeah, I realize know that S=off is better. Like I said, I'm new to the whole ROM community thing so I thought an HTCDev unlock WAS S=off.
Anyway, thank you all for your help. Much appreciated.
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Maybe cause I'm use to the captivate but all this stuff seems confusing to me ...like gold card ? And recovery how does one get to recovery ? Etc what is the easiest way to root and enable sideload step by step if possible please
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983840
1. Create gold card using a utlility posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970157
2. Use bubby's tool to root your phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
You should be done in less then an hour
I actually think the hack kit is easier. Plus you don't have to worry about cwm messing up.
I don't see how cwm is messing up? Just try to reflash it until it works. Or use the fix. Do you think rooting the phone with the desire hd method works? The easy one click tool? It includes visionary. Its the same phone, idk why it wouldn't.
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Nope the inspire software closes the bug that allowed visionary to work. That's why the goldcard is needed so you can downgrade.
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That seems exsessive. Why reflash until it works when you can just do it once and have it work. Not to mention some people have had to get engineering hboot just to get it to work.
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I just wanted to add something about bubby's tool. I used that process to root my phone. Afterward, I could not get the GPS to work at all. So, I reflashed the stock ROM (via SD method) and used SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse to root the device. I have since loaded a Gingerbread ROM, but reloading stock (without losing S-off) fixed the GPS issue for me.
I guess the bigger news, and the point, is that the psneuter rooting process works on this device. I also used SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse to enable non-market apps on the stock ROM.
psneuter works because when you went back to stock you were still S-off.
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psneuter works because when you went back to stock you were still S-off.
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That is what I was trying to convey in my post. The point really, is that you can skip the manual rooting and just reload the stock rom after the s-off steps. It may be beneficial for some people to know that.
Sometimes I just like to do things from scratch myself. If there was a simple s-off process that reloaded a stock rom, I would think some people would be interested in it. Of course, I realize there is a stock rom with simply root and s-off. In my situation, that rom did not have a working GPS for some reason.
I am sure there will be a point where the whole process gets easier anyway. I believe, at some point, somebody will find a way to get s-off without downgrading first.
I was trying to create my gold card tonight but kept getting card is already being used error after formatting and placing the SD card in my phone. That's what happens when I try to get the CID for the card that is. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
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HI, guys you've really helped me with all my previous phones. I currently have an Att inspire, it's not rooted but I want to have access to install apk's on my phone everything else is okay. I know about sideloadwonder but, direct downloads and installs on the phone are even better. Does SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse enable non-market apps. thanks.
Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!
wageslave said:
Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!
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everything is possible. Just follow the guides in this forum how to root your device (I recommend not to use htcdev). You don't have to install a new ROM.
But my personal opinion is to use a custom ROM, since they often have much more possibilities for customizing and a lot modifications for speed and performance. Are you still using stock ROM with sense 3.0 ?
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?
wageslave said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?
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Yes, it's stock right now.
At first you need to s-off your device (caution, you are about to void your warranty). You can do that using the revolutionary tool. Then you have to root, which can be done with superoneclick.
(edit: at this point you need to install a recovery like 4ext or cwm)
Root will not be undone when installing a
New ROM, neither do you need to install a new ROM. But I recommend to use a ROM with sense 3.5, it's much better.
You can find tutorials for everything I'm talking about right here in the forums.
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Ah, thats great, thanks. I didn't get that superoneclick could allow you to keep root.
Much appreciated.
I'll also look into the Sense 3.5. thanks again!
I forgot to mention: after rooting,
You need to install a custom recovery like 4ext or cwm. It's for backing up your system and flashing roms and updates and anything else you need
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Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?
wageslave said:
Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?
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If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.
Steinhund said:
If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.
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+1
But I think if you s-off and root and DO NOT install any other ROM you might still be able to download official updates for your stock ROM over the air
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Yes, you can use OTA (Over The Air update) ... but I think after that, you will loose your root
look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401 FAQ's No. 5
ok, went to have a go at this but it looks like getting S-Off is quite complicated as well. I'm on HBOOT 2.00.0002.
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
If there isn't now is it likely to become available in the future or is the Desire S just difficult to do this with?
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
wageslave said:
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
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use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...
bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)
bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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That's great, and exactly what i was looking for, thanks!
eyahl said:
use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...
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I get that the steps might be easy enough, but there are quite a lot of them and instructions can contain loops when put together (I.e. downgrading to get root may require root in some instructionals). I do appreciate your help and advice though. I may well switch ROMs, especially in the future (I can't see myself affording a new phone any time soon!)
amidabuddha said:
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this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)
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Thanks for the tip!
ok i am late but i think i can help.
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.
@up wth are U talkin' bout dude?
Case was closed two days ago, op was informed, understood, even thanked everyone. What are You trying to show in here?
darkrider24 said:
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.
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Who do you think you are? Batman?
You've basically danced around the same bush that bronx, eyahl and amidabuddha planted already and announced salvation to the world!
Ohhh.... am I too late to save the day?...is it too late for the poor non-rooted buggers?!! What'll the world do without me? The ship you're trying to board sailed away two days ago... party's over man... but it's fascinating to see the way you look at yourself! Knight in shining armor indeed!!
This is your first post on the forum, and this is how you behave, and talk to other members...? You reap what you sow man...
P.S. : Even the OP has more posts than you!!
Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.
bronx said:
Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.
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Nope, you're not the only one
Enigmaamit at his best
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I screwed up my phone, I rooted it and was uninstalling some bloatware that came with it (sound hound, check-in app etc) but I deleted something important and for some reason I my internet browser was uninstalled and I cannot install CWM (will clarify below). Before my brower was uninstalled I was unable to install any more apps (things from the Market would download, but never install), so I tried a factory reset (being stupid since I uninstalled so much from the stock ROM) and then my browser was gone.
Being a total moron I did not back anything up, so I thought I could install CWM to just reflash the stock ROM. I rooted my phone successfully (following htc dev) but could not install CWM, after flashing the .img file and rebooting it just reboots as normal and shows no evidence of CWM being installed.
My phone is a Rogers HTC One X and I've been making sure to find the guides for Rogers/AT&T HTC's, but I'm still failing .
Use ADB to push the missing apps to the phone?
But it sounds like you want to restore the phone to the state it was before you removed apps?
If so, first step is to get a working recovery. Can you get Rom Manager on your phone? If so, you could flash CM from there.
If not, find a thread on flashing recovery. I have not yet rooted mine so can't be more specific.
And you do know how to get into recovery by holding volume down and power etc? Sorry if I underestimate your experience but sometimes people miss basic stuff.
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Whatever you do, don't flash an HTC official RUU (rom) over all of this.... The only hard bricks you read about are caused by people flashing manufacturers' roms after rooting.
Edit: I see from comments below it appears that some people think I was being sarcastic in making this post: however, see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22897771
I have seen a number of other warnings over the years of inexperienced users who try to get out of trouble by simply applying manufacturers' updates or factory images to an unlocked phone with a custom recovery and make things much worse.
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How do I use ABD to push missing apps back? Don't worry about underestimating my knowledge at all, this is my first android phone.
I googled how to install custom ROMs and CWM and TWRP came up, I tried both and neither installed. I unrooted my phone successfully and started phone in fastboot, flashed the .img files and then restarted but nothing new was installed.
tangiers said:
Whatever you do, don't flash an HTC official RUU (rom) over all of this.... The only hard bricks you read about are caused by people flashing manufacturers' roms after rooting.
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Why are you saying that? Nobody is hard bricking a phone by flashing the correct RUU.
Whatever you do, don't flash an HTC official RUU (rom) over all of this.... The only hard bricks you read about are caused by people flashing manufacturers' roms after rooting. <br />
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Funny guy.
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The FUD is strong in this one...
So what do you guys suggest I do? Should I just bring it back to the store? I got it like four days ago. How do I unroot it? I can't access the market (no brower or market app) so I can't get SU to unroot.
to get back to factory you can do the following
relock the bootloader.
reboot to bootloader and use the command fastboot oem lock
after that install the 1.85 RUU from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670238
it will take longer than the 10 minutes it says it will take so don't worry.
after that you can unlock again with that same token you used to unlock in the first place.
I'm at work right now so I can't do that yet
If I bring it in without doing that stuff will they know or even care? I have some BS story made up D). Also mine is a Rogers, but the AT&T stuff works with it right?
I appreciate your quick responses
Rogers phone would need rogers ruu loaded
ATM I still have the Rogers RUU, just broken XD
Would it be enough to just lock the blootloader again before returning it to the store?
bman3k said:
ATM I still have the Rogers RUU, just broken XD
Would it be enough to just lock the blootloader again before returning it to the store?
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why do you want to return it? For this problem or is there something else?
Yes it is for this problem (and all the ones in the first post) I tried for several hours last night to fix it, but couldn't.
I followed the guides for how to install CWM and TWRP to the word and they would not install. If I cannot install them, I cannot reflash stock RUU right?
I still want the HTC One X... just one I didn't screw up XD.
This will put you back to stock and you won't need to return anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658929
Ok, I'll try that when I get home, thanks for your help.
PJ83IMG_Evita_UL_Rogers_WWE_1.73.631.1_Radio_0.16a.32.0... from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543593 is what I'll need right?
Correct.
Thanks for your help, that last guide you linked solved it. The first time I looked at it I misread "lock" for "unlock", but I got it to work now . Thanks for your patience and help gunny.
No problem. I'm glad you got it sorted.
I just got my rogers one x and, I'm fairly disappointed in the storage capacity. What advantages would I gain from routing a phone that is already as fast and responsive as it is?
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Hello everyday android fans just got this great phone from my uncle and would love to flash a rom on it (not a fan of sense ui) , Rooting. the best thing about android, we all want to root it, flash a rom or other goodies. But the one thing we android fans hate? Bricking. Im tired of bricking my phones because of someone elses stupid mistake, weather its a broken link when your half way into the process, wrong file or broken file, im tired of it, i have bricked so many great phones, so i have googled and searched this thread and i dont know where to start i cant find any root tuts, i know that htc dosent like it when people root their phones (dont know if this is true correct me if im wrong) because of the unlock thing and S-On. Now can someone please direct me to a root thread and maby even a rom, i would like a non sense rom but ics 4.0.4 or jb 4.1.1 sorry for how dumb i am.
Trozzul said:
Hello everyday android fans just got this great phone from my uncle and would love to flash a rom on it (not a fan of sense ui) , Rooting. the best thing about android, we all want to root it, flash a rom or other goodies. But the one thing we android fans hate? Bricking. Im tired of bricking my phones because of someone elses stupid mistake, weather its a broken link when your half way into the process, wrong file or broken file, im tired of it, i have bricked so many great phones, so i have googled and searched this thread and i dont know where to start i cant find any root tuts, i know that htc dosent like it when people root their phones (dont know if this is true correct me if im wrong) because of the unlock thing and S-On. Now can someone please direct me to a root thread and maby even a rom, i would like a non sense rom but ics 4.0.4 or jb 4.1.1 sorry for how dumb i am.
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This is what you need....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379
glevitan said:
This is what you need....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379
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this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
Trozzul said:
this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
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you are wrong. Inspire and desire HD are the same phone except for the radio frequencies. If you have read the guide in post 7 you would have found that.
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Trozzul said:
this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
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They're the same phone. I recommend you read the guide. Root, S-Off and Unlock are all explained in great detail in the guide.
There have to be other small differences too, no? Screens or something, right?
First thing OP needs to do is check the build version. That will determine if you can run the aahk straight or if you need to unlock with htcdev first, flash insecure boot, downgrade, then root...
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There have to be other small differences too, no? Screens or something, right?
First thing OP needs to do is check the build version. That will determine if you can run the aahk straight or if you need to unlock with htcdev first, flash insecure boot, downgrade, then root...
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The Hack Kit can always be used, he has to find what kinda preparation needs to be done for it to work.
Desire HD and Inspire and similar, DHD is the European version, and therefore the different frequencies, the rest are just the same. Even radios can be shared.
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The Hack Kit can always be used, he has to find what kinda preparation needs to be done for it to work.
Desire HD and Inspire and similar, DHD is the European version, and therefore the different frequencies, the rest are just the same. Even radios can be shared.
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I still dont see what im looking for post 7 dosent show any links or what to do but it looks like you guys want me to unlock the bootloader first. But I have read in some threads and posts that they dont want you using the offical bootloader unlock if your going to use the hack kit aahk or whatever they are
Trozzul said:
I still dont see what im looking for post 7 dosent show any links or what to do but it looks like you guys want me to unlock the bootloader first. But I have read in some threads and posts that they dont want you using the offical bootloader unlock if your going to use the hack kit aahk or whatever they are
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Post 7 has a PDF guide. That includes any instructions you want. And no, you can't run AAHK on an unlocked bootloader.
how do i know if my device was shipped with gingerbread? i got this thing from my uncle and im sure he wouldnt know when he got it.
Trozzul said:
how do i know if my device was shipped with gingerbread? i got this thing from my uncle and im sure he wouldnt know when he got it.
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AAHK was retired a few days ago. The only option now is bootloader unlock, unless someone else comes up with a similar tool.
What do you mean AAHK is retired? is it not supported anymore? am i not able to root and flash a custom rom on my phone now?
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What do you mean AAHK is retired? is it not supported anymore? am i not able to root and flash a custom rom on my phone now?
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It's neither available nor supported; the server hosting all the files it needs is no longer up. Like I said, the only option to root now is boot loader unlock.
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It's neither available nor supported; the server hosting all the files it needs is no longer up. Like I said, the only option to root now is boot loader unlock.
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sorry im pretty dumb... so if i root and unlock the boot loader can i flash roms with Cwm? or do i have to be S-off? its S-on right now, not really sure what S-off /S-on is from what i have read its so you cant unistall stock apps?
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sorry im pretty dumb... so if i root and unlock the boot loader can i flash roms with Cwm? or do i have to be S-off? its S-on right now, not really sure what S-off /S-on is from what i have read its so you cant unistall stock apps?
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Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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I obtained AAHK literally the day before he retired it. I read everything thoroughly and it went off great with no problems. I think I might have been one of the last people to get S-OFF on this phone before he retired it. The only thing I can tell you is you might be able to google for ace advanced hack kit. I know you can find the blog this way, and you may be able to find the kit somewhere else to download. If you do happen to find the download somewhere, read EVERYTHING on the blog. If you read for comprehension and follow directions carefully, you can root and s-off without bricking. I did it first try no problems. Now I'm running Energy ROM for Sense 3.5 and love it.
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Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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so if i want to get custom roms like a ICS or JB Rom i would have to root/cwm and unlock the bootloader? and if i had to unlock the bootloader would i use htcdev? i have seen so many tuts its not even funny some people say to use it some say its bad and dont use it im very confused
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I obtained AAHK literally the day before he retired it. I read everything thoroughly and it went off great with no problems. I think I might have been one of the last people to get S-OFF on this phone before he retired it. The only thing I can tell you is you might be able to google for ace advanced hack kit. I know you can find the blog this way, and you may be able to find the kit somewhere else to download. If you do happen to find the download somewhere, read EVERYTHING on the blog. If you read for comprehension and follow directions carefully, you can root and s-off without bricking. I did it first try no problems. Now I'm running Energy ROM for Sense 3.5 and love it.
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I do not recommend trying to download AAHK and run it. You will probably get stuck in the middle. AAHK downloaded files from its servers during the process. That server is now down.
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so if i want to get custom roms like a ICS or JB Rom i would have to root/cwm and unlock the bootloader? and if i had to unlock the bootloader would i use htcdev? i have seen so many tuts its not even funny some people say to use it some say its bad and dont use it im very confused
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Now, you need to unlock the bootloader with HTCDEV, flash a recovery like CWM, and either: flash a rooted ROM, or a su binary and a superuser app.
In the past when AAHK was around it was a much better option (gave S-Off) than bootloader unlock, which is probably why you see people saying not to use bootloader unlock. Now that AAHK is gone, unless/until glevitan makes his S-Off tool, bootloader unlock is the only option.
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I do not recommend trying to download AAHK and run it. You will probably get stuck in the middle. AAHK downloaded files from its servers during the process. That server is now down.
Now, you need to unlock the bootloader with HTCDEV, flash a recovery like CWM, and either: flash a rooted ROM, or a su binary and a superuser app.
In the past when AAHK was around it was a much better option (gave S-Off) than bootloader unlock, which is probably why you see people saying not to use bootloader unlock. Now that AAHK is gone, unless/until glevitan makes his S-Off tool, bootloader unlock is the only option.
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you said a Rooted ROM? how would that work i dont know how to flash CWM yet since AAHK is gone .do i flash CWM on the stock recovery? if so how would i? download a CWM Version and rename it to Update.zip?
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you said a Rooted ROM? how would that work i dont know how to flash CWM yet since AAHK is gone .do i flash CWM on the stock recovery? if so how would i? download a CWM Version and rename it to Update.zip?
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In post #7 of the thread linked in my signature, glevitan has a beginner's guide that includes instructions on bootloader unlock and root. There are also many threads strewn around the HTC Desire HD forums detailing how to do it step by step. (Note: DHD is essentially the same phone as the Inspire 4G; you can use their ROMs and their instructions, though I would be careful about their radios.)
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169515 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168500
I've spent hours searching for how to S-Off my device. I've been running CM 9 and then 10, but it seems like my problem with 10.1 is S-on.
Most searches come to someone recommending Hasoon2000s S-Off tool, and linking to the original thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696373&highlight=s+off
The problem is that the link in that original thread to download the S-Off Tool is no longer there. I've looked through Hasoon2000s other downloads, and while there is the all-in-one toolkit 2.0, there doesn't seem to be a way to do S-Off in that kit.
I'll probably settle for JuopunutBear's solution, but since everywhere I go people are swearing by Hasoon2000s, (and I used the all-in-one toolkit with great success), does anyone have any new direction to track down a downloadable version of the S-Off tool, or a way to access it, or is JuopunutBear's all that is left for some reason? I haven't found any posts saying why Hasoon2000's has been pulled?
Thanks!
If I were you I would stay away from toolkits altogether. Not because they are bad, only because you learn absolutely nothing from using them and usually come bomb the threads when **** hits the fan.
The wire trick is a fun little task to handle though so everything should be okay that way.
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ArachnydZ28 said:
I've spent hours searching for how to S-Off my device. I've been running CM 9 and then 10, but it seems like my problem with 10.1 is S-on.
Most searches come to someone recommending Hasoon2000s S-Off tool, and linking to the original thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696373&highlight=s+off
The problem is that the link in that original thread to download the S-Off Tool is no longer there. I've looked through Hasoon2000s other downloads, and while there is the all-in-one toolkit 2.0, there doesn't seem to be a way to do S-Off in that kit.
I'll probably settle for JuopunutBear's solution, but since everywhere I go people are swearing by Hasoon2000s, (and I used the all-in-one toolkit with great success), does anyone have any new direction to track down a downloadable version of the S-Off tool, or a way to access it, or is JuopunutBear's all that is left for some reason? I haven't found any posts saying why Hasoon2000's has been pulled?
Thanks!
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His toolkit is still there, just browse around a bit... or go here... http://d-h.st/users/hasoon2000/?fld_id=2818#files
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His toolkit is still there, just browse around a bit... or go here...
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Thanks for your help I appreciate it- That was the same place linked to above.
Thats his toolkit 2.0 which I used to unlock my phone, but it doesn't give the phone S-Off (or atleast I couldnt find a way to do it in the toolkit)
His S-Off toolkit can't be found anymore on the otherhand, and I've searched in depth. I've been trying for at least 6-8 hours to get S-Off. Now I have a semi-bricked phone. Every path I go down is a dead end and its driving me nuts!
I was going to try the wire trick, but it requires stock rom. I had backed up the stock rom but it won't load. I downloaded 2 PD15IMG.zip files but neither of them will load, recovery says "Bad" when I try to run the .zip files. Did a little research. I think I need to do it via fastboot for the PD15IMG.zip files. Trying to figure that out now. Warnings seem pretty dire about trying to do it on a non-stock rom
This is getting above my head but I'm working my best to figure it out. Worst comes to worse I'll just have to order a new phone! I hate to be the novice that ends up being a PITA, as I've dealt with them plenty on the car forums I'm active on. I'd like to apologize up front for being "that guy".
Whats your situation now, do you have a recovery? What does it all say on your bootloader screen? Write that all down here
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Whats your situation now, do you have a recovery? What does it all say on your bootloader screen? Write that all down here
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Doubleshot PVT Ship S-On RL
Hboot- 1.45.0013
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I do have recovery and hboot. Stock backup won't load though even though the file is there in recovery.
Thanks!
And what if you were to try and flash another rom, like miktouch, through recovery?
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And what if you were to try and flash another rom, like miktouch, through recovery?
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I was able to reflash a version of CM10 I was using for a while and that works, but I can't find a stock one that will work. I've tried multiple, and they all give me "bad" error and don't finish the install.
I was going to try a different version of CM10, 10.1, or go to a stable release of 9. If none of those worked, I'd be happier with stock. None of the ones I've tried will work, but I'm assuming thats because I'm S-On, but since I can't find hasoon2000s S-Off tool everyone was raving about, and the wire trick requires stock ROM based on what the directions say, I find myself in a pickle.
The CM10 version I have can't do some basic things I need for work- like sync with my bluetooth in the car or not randomly freeze up during the day without me knowing it sending all my calls to voicemail. I tried versions of the others that other people are using (like silverL's 10.1 and the CM-listed stable CM9) and neither would load.
Do I have a different issue? AKA are other people with S-On able to load those Roms? I can try miktouch too.
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Also trying to load via fastboot and I'm getting this error:
"Whoops: didn't find expected signature
read_central_directory_entry_failed
error: failed to access zipdata in [Whole bunch of non-english characters taking up a few lines]"
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Update: Just to clarify, when I try to install a stock rom it gives me "Can't open [filename] (bad)
However, when I try to install the CM's, it installs fine and says "Install from sdcard complete" they just won't load when I restart my phone, except for the original version of CM10. (for example, in all the 10.1s I've tried I get "Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped" but the intro page will load. I figured that came down to an S-On issue when I tried to troubleshoot.
Any rom that is based off stock (like miktouch) should work to do the wire trick. I would check md5sums of the roms that won't flash to make sure they aren't corrupt at all. Also some say the latest twrp (and maybe other recoveries) won't flash some roms, so may need to change that as well
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Any rom that is based off stock (like miktouch) should work to do the wire trick. I would check md5sums of the roms that won't flash to make sure they aren't corrupt at all. Also some say the latest twrp (and maybe other recoveries) won't flash some roms, so may need to change that as well
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Great, thanks!
I'll give miktouch a shot to see if I can use it for the wire trick. I'll let you know if it works.
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Great, thanks!
I'll give miktouch a shot to see if I can use it for the wire trick. I'll let you know if it works.
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negative.
miktouch would go through the install process, and end at the Tmobile mytouch 4g slide screen forever. I know on one install it took a long time to "load" the first time so I left it on this screen for about 15 minutes to no avail. Let me know if there is any chance of it taking longer than that. Reinstalls were the same story.
I got CM9.1 to install by installing it twice on top of itself (not sure why that fixes it) but it was a tiny bit buggy.
Is there any chance this could be bootloader related or recovery related? I can try to reload those too. grrr...
Its possible but if your bootloader can boot up one ROM it should be able to boot another. For this phone the only reason I have seen to change bootloaders is to unlock all the fastboot options. Flashing a new bootloader would reformat your partitions which may be the cause of your issue. Make sure you do a full wipe from recovery or fastboot -w or use a superwipe script, hell I tend to do all three between flashes but I'm kinda ocd when it comes to this, I hate debugging issues caused by residual effect from old data left after a dirty flash
But it may be worth it to flash a new recovery, not sure what you are using now but sometimes one will work when another doesn't, this would probably be my next step
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Its possible but if your bootloader can boot up one ROM it should be able to boot another. For this phone the only reason I have seen to change bootloaders is to unlock all the fastboot options. Flashing a new bootloader would reformat your partitions which may be the cause of your issue. Make sure you do a full wipe from recovery or fastboot -w or use a superwipe script, hell I tend to do all three between flashes but I'm kinda ocd when it comes to this, I hate debugging issues caused by residual effect from old data left after a dirty flash
But it may be worth it to flash a new recovery, not sure what you are using now but sometimes one will work when another doesn't, this would probably be my next step
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I'm running CWM 5.5.0.4
I'll try to reload it or another version (I'm seeing some issues people have with 5504)
Thanks!
ArachnydZ28 said:
I'm running CWM 5.5.0.4
I'll try to reload it or another version (I'm seeing some issues people have with 5504)
Thanks!
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You should try CWM 5.0.2.7. Also, since you are S-On you should extract the boot.img from Miktouch and flash it from fastboot, separately from the ROM. Since you have been on an ICS/Jellybean rom, I have to believe your original boot.img was replaced at some point. This is the only way to get back the Gingerbread boot.img. I am not savvy enough to know if this file is the bootloader or the kernel, but this process should get you back to stock-enough to do the wire trick.
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It's the kernel.....the boot.img file, I mean. The bootloader is that mostly white screen you see with "Hboot" at the top that will have "S-On" or "S-Off" after the word Radio. Good response.:good:
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Thanks for your help I appreciate it- That was the same place linked to above.
Thats his toolkit 2.0 which I used to unlock my phone, but it doesn't give the phone S-Off (or atleast I couldnt find a way to do it in the toolkit)
His S-Off toolkit can't be found anymore on the otherhand, and I've searched in depth. I've been trying for at least 6-8 hours to get S-Off. Now I have a semi-bricked phone. Every path I go down is a dead end and its driving me nuts!
I was going to try the wire trick, but it requires stock rom. I had backed up the stock rom but it won't load. I downloaded 2 PD15IMG.zip files but neither of them will load, recovery says "Bad" when I try to run the .zip files. Did a little research. I think I need to do it via fastboot for the PD15IMG.zip files. Trying to figure that out now. Warnings seem pretty dire about trying to do it on a non-stock rom
This is getting above my head but I'm working my best to figure it out. Worst comes to worse I'll just have to order a new phone! I hate to be the novice that ends up being a PITA, as I've dealt with them plenty on the car forums I'm active on. I'd like to apologize up front for being "that guy".
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Load the pd15img.zip on your sd card and boot to your bootloader. It should detect the file on your card and ask if you want to flash it. Just follow the directiins it gives you
Edit: actually should be pd59img not 15
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