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How to stop an OTA update?

Okay first off, i know this is the wrong section. I can not post in development because I am new here, but I am in need of help desperately. Okay so I am rooted on 1.85 and the bootloader is NOT unlocked. Well i decided today to take the update to 4.0.4 before I did research. (Stupid me eh?) Well I start the OTA and then do some research. I learn that the update to 4.0.4 might be harmful to rooted users. So I disconnect from WiFi knowing it will pause the download. Well now I have a download that is just paused in the notification bar, and any time i connect to wifi it will continue the download. While the download is paused, can i unroot and take the update safely? I have seriously been searching for hours on end to find someone with a situation that I am in and i can not.

If you do a factory reset the update will go away. But that would also make you loose root. You should unlock the bootloader, then flash the rooted 2.20 update from the dev section.
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Yep, get that bootloader unlocked immediately and flash a rooted stock ROM or a custom ROM. Make sure you backup all your stuff with Titanium because the bootloader unlock will wipe your phone.
Also, just so you know, this thread most definitely did NOT belong in development, which is reserved for ROMs and kernels and root guides and the like ONLY. Threads like this belong in Q+A but nobody is gonna kill you for posting it in General.

After the download, you should get a prompt to either Install, Postpone, or you can press the "back" capacitive button to cancel. Cancel should stop the update notifications. At least this is how its worked on past HTC OTAs. I personally can't verify, as I haven't gotten the notification yet. But others seem to verify this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817429
But if you want to be safe, you should SuperCID and unlock bootloader first, as others have suggested. Pressing the wrong button for the method I suggested above will be catastrophic otherwise (lose the ability to root and unlock BL).

Thanks for your help guys!
I just did a factory data reset on my phone. Honestly, I've gotten myself into trouble with rooting. I really need to read up before i continue with things of this sort. So since i did a factory data reset, am i 100% unrooted? Will i be safe to take the OTA now? Thanks for your help guys!

If you were stock 1.85, and rooted using the one-click or "manual" method (which you must be, if you you are still BL locked), then you are now unrooted. You are either rooted or not, there is no "percentage" of rooted.
What kind of trouble have you gotten into rooting, and what do you typically use root for?

I've been debating on whether or not to just go ahead and install the OTA to 2.2. The only thing I've used for root was for WiFi-Tether and I don't even use that anymore so I think I don't even necessarily NEED root anymore. I'm just tired of the updater telling me there's a new update to install - frankly very annoying. I've been just using the back capacitive button to cancel it. BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?

extol1337 said:
BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?
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Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.

redpoint73 said:
Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.
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That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...

extol1337 said:
That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...
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Is the update actually downloaded to your phone? You may need to locate and delete it.
It may be trying to install the OTA from recovery, which makes sense. Don't actually know what happens when an OTA installs.
I've never installed an OTA! I'm always rooted, always will be!!!!

Just to be sure.
I did a factory data reset the night of the problem, been good ever since! I have not done anything to the phone except install a few apps. Should i be okay to take the OTA now? Sorry i just really want to be sure. This is my 3rd phone is 3 months so... no second chances.

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Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:

Did everyone got an update ?
I still do not see update notification
From beast called HTC One X

It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.

wantabe said:
It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.
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Excellent info!

ssteven232 said:
Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:
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Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
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borets.boris said:
Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced). One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone! My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good! I also have to agree with "I can't own an android without root access" especially on AT&T. Personally I'm good to go until the Jelly Bean update! Decisions, decisions! :laugh:

wantabe said:
Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced).
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I've never installed an OTA, so I wouldn't know either. Honestly, I don't know why one would do that, when the awesome devs here post ROMs with the latest OTAs and root prebaked into them. There are "modded" ROMs and "stock" (or close to stock) ROMs available to everyone's taste.
wantabe said:
One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone!
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Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
wantabe said:
My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good!
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Where was your improvement? Did the increase happen in the aspect/area that directly affects your daily use, or in some esoteric algorithm that the phone all of a sudden processes faster? I used to go crazy on quadrant scores, but now I don't really understand their value/accuracy. As long as the phone feels buttery smooth while lasting 5+ hours of screen time, I'm happy!
Since you're interested in the scores, I installed quadrant and ran it, so you can compare.
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in admiration, totally confused!
borets.boris said:
Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
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Hi, do you think you could point me in the right direction for this? I found the general thread on radios, but am at a total loss about what it means or what to do with it!

You knew this was the wrong section but posted here anyway? Not a good way to start your membership on XDA. First rule of thumb is to search before creating a thread. Google is a great source for information. For future reference, all questions belong in the Q&A section, where coincidentally, this is being moved to.
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HTC Thunderbolt Issues - Stuck at HTC Logo... Recovery not working, etc...

here is my issue.
2 weeks ago, i rooted my phone. all was well. flashed CWM Recovery 5.0.2.1 for my Thunderbolt. I made a backup just before i rooted so that in case ANYTHING went wrong, it would unroot me and fix any problems. So, here i am, backing up apps with Titanium Backup, and it backed up fine. The next thing i did was start to uninstall HTC Bloatware... I knew which ones were the ones i could remove, plus even if i removed the wrong one, i could just restore using my image backup. After removal, the phone instantly ran better. i had over 65% free memory space... This was all well and good, until i rebooted the phone. the instant i rebooted my phone, i was getting the flashing HTC Quietly Brilliant screen. i had done NOTHING to it to cause this. It would alternate from HTC splash to Thunderbolt animation.
So, knowing what was wrong, (UI not loading) i went to recover my image from CWM. that went fine. but things just got worse. After a successful recovery (according to CWM) i rebooted, but to my surprise, now its worse. its stuck at the HTC boot logo. ALL MANNER OF ROMS DO NOT WORK!!! recoveries, new OS, anything, all the same result. AT LEAST with the thunderstick full blown ROM, i can get back to the looping splash screen, but not any further. i DONT KNOW what is wrong but i am hoping one of you mad phone geniuses out there can get my phone working. i tried getting s-off with revolutionary, but it failed because the phone has to be booted up for it to work, and is something i obviously cant do at this point... relocking the phone made things worse too because i unlocked using the HTCdev method.
This is not a boot loop, as it doesnt loop. it just sits there. i have tried every available resource on this, and other sites. i must have read over 1,000 posts in the past week to try and gather what the devil happened to my phone... If its any help, i did accidently delete the settings storage APK file, but a restore should have fixed that. i want to lock up the phone to send it in for repair but i cant gain s-off to flash a new radio with the phone in its current state. i know how to do all if these things but the phone wont let me.

Reformat the sd card to fat32 and flash an RUU file to put you back to stock.
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Does your computer recognize your device?
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i am nearly pulling my hair out...
smtom said:
Reformat the sd card to fat32 and flash an RUU file to put you back to stock.
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any RUU downloads that would have been available on multiupload.com are disabled and redirects to to "the internet vs., holywood". besides, as i said, any attempt to flash any rom no matter what it is fails. Well, technically it FLASHES ok, but doesnt actually work. as far as i know, the phone has 2 bootloaders in any given android phone. There is the primary HTC Bootloader (Hboot) and a secondary ROM UI Bootloader. (Android Boot) i think what has happened is that this part has become corrupted and i wanted to know how to access this and reformat that. supposedly you cant because its partitioned, and formatting the partitions would fix my issue. problem is that i have done all of this. to answer the second reply, yes, i can get the phone to be recognized in any mode as long as its fastboot, or recovery. Fastboot.exe works, and adb recognizes it in recovery as being IN recovery mode. unfortunately, with my device still locked, i cannot flash a new bootloader, which might solve my problem. this is not like any issue currently on XDA so far as i read, so this is why i created a new thread.
I am sure the Moderators will agree that my problem seems to be unique. After reading what seems to be hundreds of forums, i cannot solve the issue. While technically i am a newbie here, i am no stranger to modding phones. i have been at it for over 4 years now. THIS problem is absolutely a first for me. At least before i could restore using CWM, but even that failed. i checked my MD5 Sum for CWM backup and it checked out.
If someone can provide me a link to an ORIGINAL, unmodded, RUU that shipped with the phone, (PRE OTA 2012) that ISNT that stupid file-factory corrupted crap, i would be extremely indebted to that person. last time i used File-factory, it took THREE hours and the download was corrupted according to CWM. it refused to flash the phone even though Chrome said it completely downloaded (Error: Bad - Installation Aborted). There was no MD5 SUM to compare with so thats also another problem. i absolutely need that info to properly flash the phone. All the other ROMS i downloaded like TSGB and Lightning Rom technically flashed fine after a full wipe, but refused to go past their own "Open Mobile" splash screen.
So you see, i am at a loss with this phone, as all i did was reboot after rooting it, and nothing i did could have possibly caused this kind of failure...

cyberkeeper1 said:
any RUU downloads that would have been available on multiupload.com are disabled and redirects to to "the internet vs., holywood". besides, as i said, any attempt to flash any rom no matter what it is fails. Well, technically it FLASHES ok, but doesnt actually work. as far as i know, the phone has 2 bootloaders in any given android phone. There is the primary HTC Bootloader (Hboot) and a secondary ROM UI Bootloader. (Android Boot) i think what has happened is that this part has become corrupted and i wanted to know how to access this and reformat that. supposedly you cant because its partitioned, and formatting the partitions would fix my issue. problem is that i have done all of this. to answer the second reply, yes, i can get the phone to be recognized in any mode as long as its fastboot, or recovery. Fastboot.exe works, and adb recognizes it in recovery as being IN recovery mode. unfortunately, with my device still locked, i cannot flash a new bootloader, which might solve my problem. this is not like any issue currently on XDA so far as i read, so this is why i created a new thread.
I am sure the Moderators will agree that my problem seems to be unique. After reading what seems to be hundreds of forums, i cannot solve the issue. While technically i am a newbie here, i am no stranger to modding phones. i have been at it for over 4 years now. THIS problem is absolutely a first for me. At least before i could restore using CWM, but even that failed. i checked my MD5 Sum for CWM backup and it checked out.
If someone can provide me a link to an ORIGINAL, unmodded, RUU that shipped with the phone, (PRE OTA 2012) that ISNT that stupid file-factory corrupted crap, i would be extremely indebted to that person. last time i used File-factory, it took THREE hours and the download was corrupted according to CWM. it refused to flash the phone even though Chrome said it completely downloaded (Error: Bad - Installation Aborted). There was no MD5 SUM to compare with so thats also another problem. i absolutely need that info to properly flash the phone. All the other ROMS i downloaded like TSGB and Lightning Rom technically flashed fine after a full wipe, but refused to go past their own "Open Mobile" splash screen.
So you see, i am at a loss with this phone, as all i did was reboot after rooting it, and nothing i did could have possibly caused this kind of failure...
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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61129367/Stock-ROM.zip
013CBDD3A9B28BC894631008FA2148E2

will this really work??!? lol
trter10 said:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61129367/Stock-ROM.zip
013CBDD3A9B28BC894631008FA2148E2
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If this works, i will be forever grateful. and something that mere Custom ROMS wont do, is repair any boot issues and lock up my phone again right? i hope at least it fixes the issue.

new problem... i think...
cyberkeeper1 said:
If this works, i will be forever grateful. and something that mere Custom ROMS wont do, is repair any boot issues and lock up my phone again right? i hope at least it fixes the issue.
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ok. so the download finished fine so far as i know, but now CWM says ITS bad too. i will try again but i cant seem to flash any stock rom no matter if its OTA or pre-OTA from CWM. is there a way to flash a rom from the PC via adb or something?

Ohh! They're not flashed through CWM. They're flashed through hboot. Just rename it to PG05IMG.zip and put on SD card and boot to hboot it will ask you to flash
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i will try that. previous hboot flashes always fail. it reads the archive, but never goes to "checking zip". it loads, checks, and then parses. i was successful with my evo shift earlier today, but that thing is ancient compared to my thunderbolt. With the Shift, i was able to gain root AND s-off with an old bootloader and i dont even need a new one.
i wanted to do the same with my bootloader in case another disaster hits because then i can flash whatever RUU i want with s-off. i will make sure the MD5 SUM matches before flashing. i forgot to do that anyhow.

Hboot flash failed. went through the motions of scanning it and it scanned the whole thing and then did nothing. it returned me to Boot Choices. Like Fastboot, recovery, etc... i tried twice. are you absolutely certain that is the shipping firmware that formats the entire phone, and not just updates it? i cant send it to verizon even though they know it was illegal to lock up my phone... Anyhow, i realy need this thing working and i have racked my brain enough to damage it already... lol. if it fails again i will try to redownload it. So far it loads and does NOT ask me to start the update. could be a version issue because it does not complain about anything else.

Have you tried following the instructions in the return to stock thread in the android development section stickies? This may help you.
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lemew said:
Have you tried following the instructions in the return to stock thread in the android development section stickies? This may help you.
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yes i have. i cannot do what it asks because it requires my phone to be functional to flash it using hboot. i need a signed copy of an older RUU. hboot doesnt do anything with it. its a valid copy, and i can see all the images and contents in windows and linux, but all i can get hboot to do is read it, then it doesnt ask me to update. i dont know what to do now.

I believe there is a ruu image without hoot download there.
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Try http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Mecha
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ok well i will literally try ALL of the signed images. i will see if hboot will update it.

If your hboot is flashed with revolutionary I believe you have to unlock it before anything thing else can be flashed over that. Hboot or emmc could be corrupted as well.
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How i fixed my tbolt stuck at the white HTC screen
I had this exact same problem literally yesterday (stuck at HTC screen) with some different cwm symptoms. I'm guessing my cwm was corrupted because the phone would reboot after about 30 seconds being in cwm, preventing me from flashing any roms. oh, and my backup image was corrupted as well. awesome. Flashing other CWMs did not fix the CWM problem.
Your problem sounds similar in the fact the CWM won't flash properly. You're trying to fix it by trying to flash a rom in HBOOT that isn't configured to be flashed that way. for example, i put the skyraider rom (named properly) in the root folder and tried to flash with HBOOT. it scanned and parsed but didn't give me the option to flash.
What I did was go here and grab a stock like image:
androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/418539-thunderbolt-root-unroot-thread.html
(won't let me make a link, i'm too new)
Go to the "Putting current stock firmware and s-on back onto the phone" section.
Download file 1 and flash it using HBOOT. I had to pull my sd card to get the file on there since cwm was crashing. Only flash that rom and nothing else. It flashed for me; if it doesn't flash for you then maybe your HBOOT is corrupted, and if so i don't know if you can fix it.
Once that flashes, reboot the phone and it should return to some level of functionality. You'll have S-off but no recovery or root tools installed. I ran revolutionary at this point, which recognized i already had S-off...then it offered to load CWM. This i did. in the meantime i deleted the unrooted image and put the image of the rom i wanted on the sd card. i then booted into recovery(it won't flash in HBOOT) and loaded that rom (skyraider zeus). That worked fine and the cwm didn't crash out.
I hope this works for you. I was getting ready to fire back up my OG droid before i did this.

mpcapps said:
I had this exact same problem literally yesterday (stuck at HTC screen) with some different cwm symptoms. I'm guessing my cwm was corrupted because the phone would reboot after about 30 seconds being in cwm, preventing me from flashing any roms. oh, and my backup image was corrupted as well. awesome. Flashing other CWMs did not fix the CWM problem.
Your problem sounds similar in the fact the CWM won't flash properly. You're trying to fix it by trying to flash a rom in HBOOT that isn't configured to be flashed that way. for example, i put the skyraider rom (named properly) in the root folder and tried to flash with HBOOT. it scanned and parsed but didn't give me the option to flash.
What I did was go here and grab a stock like image:
androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/418539-thunderbolt-root-unroot-thread.html
(won't let me make a link, i'm too new)
Go to the "Putting current stock firmware and s-on back onto the phone" section.
Download file 1 and flash it using HBOOT. I had to pull my sd card to get the file on there since cwm was crashing. Only flash that rom and nothing else. It flashed for me; if it doesn't flash for you then maybe your HBOOT is corrupted, and if so i don't know if you can fix it.
Once that flashes, reboot the phone and it should return to some level of functionality. You'll have S-off but no recovery or root tools installed. I ran revolutionary at this point, which recognized i already had S-off...then it offered to load CWM. This i did. in the meantime i deleted the unrooted image and put the image of the rom i wanted on the sd card. i then booted into recovery(it won't flash in HBOOT) and loaded that rom (skyraider zeus). That worked fine and the cwm didn't crash out.
I hope this works for you. I was getting ready to fire back up my OG droid before i did this.
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I have read that post you provided probably 100 times its not working for me. flashing a custom rom actually got me past the HTC white screen and into a splash screen loop (Open Mobile). Also, I havent even been able to use the REV tool because my phone is not recognized by it without it being fully functional. you have to be fully booted up for the REV tool to use adb and start the process. thats why i need a signed copy of an older ROM with hboot flashing capability so i can fully restore my phone. i am 100% sure its a corruption issue, but i am out of clues as to how to actually get it to flash over while being s-on. with the evo shift it worked perfectly. it only took me 20 minutes to root, s-off and flash a custom rom. this phone has been a thorn in my side ever since i accepted that STUPID FOTA... i regret not knowing before hand what that OTA was and what it prevented. Now i know, too little / too late.
without s-off, i cant unlock hboot to flash it, and the fastboot mw whatever command failed also because its locked tight.

lemew said:
If your hboot is flashed with revolutionary I believe you have to unlock it before anything thing else can be flashed over that. Hboot or emmc could be corrupted as well.
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thats what i thought. is there a way to change out that eMMC, or remove it to format it manually? i mean based on the description, its technically external which implies removable.

Yes you can format emmc I do not know if this will solve your problem. You wipe abd format through adb but need to see if it is being mounted first.
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lemew said:
Yes you can format emmc I do not know if this will solve your problem. You wipe abd format through adb but need to see if it is being mounted first.
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too bad i cannot repartition it to allow for more RAM instead of app space. i dont care about app space because i have a 32gb card... lol. i just want that phone to be faster than what it is currently once i finally get it running.

New to HTC need some help

Hey guys my s3 killed its self yesterday so I grabbed one of these beauties today and I'm really impressed so far(maybe its the custom ROM).
Now I got the phone off a guy, had it he unlocked the bootloader,rooted,and gave me the phone already running 4.1(dirty 1.8).no back ups to even a rooted stock.
Although I love jelly bean this battery is killing me and I would really like to have at least a stock zip I can flash in emergencies.
I am so unfamiliar with HTC(nexus one was the last one I owned)thank I really don't want to brick it.
OK so my questions are these
I have the rogers version of the Onex is there certain builds I need to look for or are they all just HTC one x?
With HTC is there a fallback like with samsung if things go wrong at least there's always download mode and Odin.
Do I need to have my boot loader unlocked?
Thanks in advance
And sorry for the noobness I just can't kill 2 phones in a week
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You have a lot of reading ahead of you, grasshopper, before you're ready to do anything to your phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
To answer your questions:
todorcim said:
I have the rogers version of the Onex is there certain builds I need to look for or are they all just HTC one x
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No! It is wise of you to ask this, because there are two versions of the One X, the International (Tegra 3 quad-core) and the US/Rogers/Telstra (dual-core S4). Flashing stuff for the wrong version can permanently brick your phone (i.e., there is no current fix for some of these mistakes).
With HTC is there a fallback like with samsung if things go wrong at least there's always download mode and Odin.
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Assuming you haven't flashed the wrong ROM, you can generally always get out of trouble by booting into bootloader, relocking, and running the RUU for your firmware. Most problems can be fixed by going back into recovery and re-flashing or flashing something else.
Note: Figure out what version of hboot you have before doing anything. With 1.09, modding is pretty straightforward. With 1.14, you have to take some extra steps and there are a few things you can't do at all.
Do I need to have my boot loader unlocked?
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Yes. Leave it unlocked unless you need to RUU.

His hboot should be 1.11 which is the same as 1.09 as far as installing roms go.
If you're looking for a Sense ICS rom, I recommend ViperXL or CleanRom5. But there are other roms to try. As long as you stay in this forum and not the international forum you should be safe to flash anything you want.

Awesome thanks guys.
I check my boot loader and it is 1.11..
So that makes me happy cause all in all I'm addicted to flashing
One last question for you before I venture off on my own here..
With my nexus one I and the passimg I could flash through my bootloader in cause something went wrong or I just want to refresh my n1,is there something like that for this phone or are those days long gone?
Again thanks a bundle
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Flash from TWRP recovery

todorcim said:
With my nexus one I and the passimg I could flash through my bootloader in cause something went wrong or I just want to refresh my n1,is there something like that for this phone or are those days long gone?
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Correct, stick to TWRP. There is an app called GooManager that makes installing and updating TWRP close to effortless.
If you haven't already, reboot to recovery and see what you've got installed. Some people insist on using ClockworkMod recovery because they've used it on other phones, but it's not supported for this one and can cause issues with data getting corrupted. If you have CWM installed, all you need to do is download GooManager and select "Install openrecovery script" in settings and it will replace it with TWRP.

Ya I always use twrp have for a while but what I mean is if (can?) I soft brick my phone or something happens that I can't flash from recovery is there a passimg zip like we had for the n1 that could be flash through the boot loader?
You know just in case
I only ask cause its HTC thought maybe there was something like that...could have been a Google thing too not sure..
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todorcim said:
Ya I always use twrp have for a while but what I mean is if (can?) I soft brick my phone or something happens that I can't flash from recovery is there a passimg zip like we had for the n1 that could be flash through the boot loader?
You know just in case
I only ask cause its HTC thought maybe there was something like that...could have been a Google thing too not sure.
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Yes, you can still flash stuff through fastboot, if that's what you mean.

Ya that's what I mean
Thanks
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[Q] Where to Access Hasoon2000 S-Off Tool?

I've spent hours searching for how to S-Off my device. I've been running CM 9 and then 10, but it seems like my problem with 10.1 is S-on.
Most searches come to someone recommending Hasoon2000s S-Off tool, and linking to the original thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696373&highlight=s+off
The problem is that the link in that original thread to download the S-Off Tool is no longer there. I've looked through Hasoon2000s other downloads, and while there is the all-in-one toolkit 2.0, there doesn't seem to be a way to do S-Off in that kit.
I'll probably settle for JuopunutBear's solution, but since everywhere I go people are swearing by Hasoon2000s, (and I used the all-in-one toolkit with great success), does anyone have any new direction to track down a downloadable version of the S-Off tool, or a way to access it, or is JuopunutBear's all that is left for some reason? I haven't found any posts saying why Hasoon2000's has been pulled?
Thanks!

If I were you I would stay away from toolkits altogether. Not because they are bad, only because you learn absolutely nothing from using them and usually come bomb the threads when **** hits the fan.
The wire trick is a fun little task to handle though so everything should be okay that way.
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ArachnydZ28 said:
I've spent hours searching for how to S-Off my device. I've been running CM 9 and then 10, but it seems like my problem with 10.1 is S-on.
Most searches come to someone recommending Hasoon2000s S-Off tool, and linking to the original thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696373&highlight=s+off
The problem is that the link in that original thread to download the S-Off Tool is no longer there. I've looked through Hasoon2000s other downloads, and while there is the all-in-one toolkit 2.0, there doesn't seem to be a way to do S-Off in that kit.
I'll probably settle for JuopunutBear's solution, but since everywhere I go people are swearing by Hasoon2000s, (and I used the all-in-one toolkit with great success), does anyone have any new direction to track down a downloadable version of the S-Off tool, or a way to access it, or is JuopunutBear's all that is left for some reason? I haven't found any posts saying why Hasoon2000's has been pulled?
Thanks!
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His toolkit is still there, just browse around a bit... or go here... http://d-h.st/users/hasoon2000/?fld_id=2818#files

acwest said:
His toolkit is still there, just browse around a bit... or go here...
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Thanks for your help I appreciate it- That was the same place linked to above.
Thats his toolkit 2.0 which I used to unlock my phone, but it doesn't give the phone S-Off (or atleast I couldnt find a way to do it in the toolkit)
His S-Off toolkit can't be found anymore on the otherhand, and I've searched in depth. I've been trying for at least 6-8 hours to get S-Off. Now I have a semi-bricked phone. Every path I go down is a dead end and its driving me nuts!
I was going to try the wire trick, but it requires stock rom. I had backed up the stock rom but it won't load. I downloaded 2 PD15IMG.zip files but neither of them will load, recovery says "Bad" when I try to run the .zip files. Did a little research. I think I need to do it via fastboot for the PD15IMG.zip files. Trying to figure that out now. Warnings seem pretty dire about trying to do it on a non-stock rom
This is getting above my head but I'm working my best to figure it out. Worst comes to worse I'll just have to order a new phone! I hate to be the novice that ends up being a PITA, as I've dealt with them plenty on the car forums I'm active on. I'd like to apologize up front for being "that guy".

Whats your situation now, do you have a recovery? What does it all say on your bootloader screen? Write that all down here
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Whats your situation now, do you have a recovery? What does it all say on your bootloader screen? Write that all down here
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Doubleshot PVT Ship S-On RL
Hboot- 1.45.0013
Microp-0353
eMMC-Boot
Nov 21 2011, 20:20:47
I do have recovery and hboot. Stock backup won't load though even though the file is there in recovery.
Thanks!

And what if you were to try and flash another rom, like miktouch, through recovery?
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demkantor said:
And what if you were to try and flash another rom, like miktouch, through recovery?
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I was able to reflash a version of CM10 I was using for a while and that works, but I can't find a stock one that will work. I've tried multiple, and they all give me "bad" error and don't finish the install.
I was going to try a different version of CM10, 10.1, or go to a stable release of 9. If none of those worked, I'd be happier with stock. None of the ones I've tried will work, but I'm assuming thats because I'm S-On, but since I can't find hasoon2000s S-Off tool everyone was raving about, and the wire trick requires stock ROM based on what the directions say, I find myself in a pickle.
The CM10 version I have can't do some basic things I need for work- like sync with my bluetooth in the car or not randomly freeze up during the day without me knowing it sending all my calls to voicemail. I tried versions of the others that other people are using (like silverL's 10.1 and the CM-listed stable CM9) and neither would load.
Do I have a different issue? AKA are other people with S-On able to load those Roms? I can try miktouch too.
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Also trying to load via fastboot and I'm getting this error:
"Whoops: didn't find expected signature
read_central_directory_entry_failed
error: failed to access zipdata in [Whole bunch of non-english characters taking up a few lines]"
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Update: Just to clarify, when I try to install a stock rom it gives me "Can't open [filename] (bad)
However, when I try to install the CM's, it installs fine and says "Install from sdcard complete" they just won't load when I restart my phone, except for the original version of CM10. (for example, in all the 10.1s I've tried I get "Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped" but the intro page will load. I figured that came down to an S-On issue when I tried to troubleshoot.

Any rom that is based off stock (like miktouch) should work to do the wire trick. I would check md5sums of the roms that won't flash to make sure they aren't corrupt at all. Also some say the latest twrp (and maybe other recoveries) won't flash some roms, so may need to change that as well
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demkantor said:
Any rom that is based off stock (like miktouch) should work to do the wire trick. I would check md5sums of the roms that won't flash to make sure they aren't corrupt at all. Also some say the latest twrp (and maybe other recoveries) won't flash some roms, so may need to change that as well
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Great, thanks!
I'll give miktouch a shot to see if I can use it for the wire trick. I'll let you know if it works.

ArachnydZ28 said:
Great, thanks!
I'll give miktouch a shot to see if I can use it for the wire trick. I'll let you know if it works.
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negative.
miktouch would go through the install process, and end at the Tmobile mytouch 4g slide screen forever. I know on one install it took a long time to "load" the first time so I left it on this screen for about 15 minutes to no avail. Let me know if there is any chance of it taking longer than that. Reinstalls were the same story.
I got CM9.1 to install by installing it twice on top of itself (not sure why that fixes it) but it was a tiny bit buggy.
Is there any chance this could be bootloader related or recovery related? I can try to reload those too. grrr...

Its possible but if your bootloader can boot up one ROM it should be able to boot another. For this phone the only reason I have seen to change bootloaders is to unlock all the fastboot options. Flashing a new bootloader would reformat your partitions which may be the cause of your issue. Make sure you do a full wipe from recovery or fastboot -w or use a superwipe script, hell I tend to do all three between flashes but I'm kinda ocd when it comes to this, I hate debugging issues caused by residual effect from old data left after a dirty flash
But it may be worth it to flash a new recovery, not sure what you are using now but sometimes one will work when another doesn't, this would probably be my next step
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demkantor said:
Its possible but if your bootloader can boot up one ROM it should be able to boot another. For this phone the only reason I have seen to change bootloaders is to unlock all the fastboot options. Flashing a new bootloader would reformat your partitions which may be the cause of your issue. Make sure you do a full wipe from recovery or fastboot -w or use a superwipe script, hell I tend to do all three between flashes but I'm kinda ocd when it comes to this, I hate debugging issues caused by residual effect from old data left after a dirty flash
But it may be worth it to flash a new recovery, not sure what you are using now but sometimes one will work when another doesn't, this would probably be my next step
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I'm running CWM 5.5.0.4
I'll try to reload it or another version (I'm seeing some issues people have with 5504)
Thanks!

ArachnydZ28 said:
I'm running CWM 5.5.0.4
I'll try to reload it or another version (I'm seeing some issues people have with 5504)
Thanks!
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You should try CWM 5.0.2.7. Also, since you are S-On you should extract the boot.img from Miktouch and flash it from fastboot, separately from the ROM. Since you have been on an ICS/Jellybean rom, I have to believe your original boot.img was replaced at some point. This is the only way to get back the Gingerbread boot.img. I am not savvy enough to know if this file is the bootloader or the kernel, but this process should get you back to stock-enough to do the wire trick.
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It's the kernel.....the boot.img file, I mean. The bootloader is that mostly white screen you see with "Hboot" at the top that will have "S-On" or "S-Off" after the word Radio. Good response.:good:

ArachnydZ28 said:
Thanks for your help I appreciate it- That was the same place linked to above.
Thats his toolkit 2.0 which I used to unlock my phone, but it doesn't give the phone S-Off (or atleast I couldnt find a way to do it in the toolkit)
His S-Off toolkit can't be found anymore on the otherhand, and I've searched in depth. I've been trying for at least 6-8 hours to get S-Off. Now I have a semi-bricked phone. Every path I go down is a dead end and its driving me nuts!
I was going to try the wire trick, but it requires stock rom. I had backed up the stock rom but it won't load. I downloaded 2 PD15IMG.zip files but neither of them will load, recovery says "Bad" when I try to run the .zip files. Did a little research. I think I need to do it via fastboot for the PD15IMG.zip files. Trying to figure that out now. Warnings seem pretty dire about trying to do it on a non-stock rom
This is getting above my head but I'm working my best to figure it out. Worst comes to worse I'll just have to order a new phone! I hate to be the novice that ends up being a PITA, as I've dealt with them plenty on the car forums I'm active on. I'd like to apologize up front for being "that guy".
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Load the pd15img.zip on your sd card and boot to your bootloader. It should detect the file on your card and ask if you want to flash it. Just follow the directiins it gives you
Edit: actually should be pd59img not 15
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Glacier Troubles

Hello, I'm a bit new here so pardon me if this is in the wrong place.
About three weeks ago I've acquired a Glacier to replace an old Sidekick 4G. I've been trying to install custom ROMs for a while now, but they've all ended in failure. I've gone through several upon several post from various sites, most of them here in XDA. Ive done everything I've seen to get this phone a custom ROM. I've made a goldcard to downgrade which failed, I've installed CWM version 5.something, I've got permaroot on my device and I've unlocked the bootloader through HTCdevs' site. I cannot get a custom ROM to install without the package being signed, and even if I install a signed ROM, my device bricks and refuses to load past initial bootscreen. I've even left my device on entire night after flashing a signed ROM to see if it would load past the bootscreen, but it won't. I'm also still a bit new to the custom tom community as a whole, as the o ly device I've had experience customizing and flashing was the SK4G.
Can anyone here please help me? I've gone through almost every single thread on XDA regarding this phone and achieving S=Off, but nothing has worked. I honestly don't even know how I managed permaroot on here since it seems to.be difficult to do from what I've read.
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I think if you unlocked your bootloader (s-off) with HTC dev you have to flash the boot.img separately. The boot.img
Is the kernel. Don't worry bro I'm a noob too can I still remember how frustrated I was while rooting. Expecially cause I have the bad emmc and I have the Canadian version of the mytouch which you have to root a different way
What rom do you want? If you open the open there will be the boot.img and extract it and flash it separately
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HI There,
I too had a few hiccups when trying to load custom Roms. I also tried to use the Unlocker through HTC, and it didn't work. It says it unlocks the BOOTLOADER, but I still had S-ON. The only way I could permanently root the Glacier with S-OFF was to downgrade to 2.2 then root.
When you go into Bootloader, does it show you have S-OFF?

N_otori0us_ said:
I think if you unlocked your bootloader (s-off) with HTC dev you have to flash the boot.img separately. The boot.img
Is the kernel. Don't worry bro I'm a noob too can I still remember how frustrated I was while rooting. Expecially cause I have the bad emmc and I have the Canadian version of the mytouch which you have to root a different way
What rom do you want? If you open the open there will be the boot.img and extract it and flash it separately
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I was looking at this rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383629 , it was the first I've tried. My bootloader is still S=On, but the bootloader itself is unlocked. I dunno if that makes any sense, I'm just reading what I see on my bootloader screen.
Anyway, after flashing the boot.img for the rom I wanted, my phone fully booted up and is now working. Thank you very much for you help.

thevindicated said:
HI There,
I too had a few hiccups when trying to load custom Roms. I also tried to use the Unlocker through HTC, and it didn't work. It says it unlocks the BOOTLOADER, but I still had S-ON. The only way I could permanently root the Glacier with S-OFF was to downgrade to 2.2 then root.
When you go into Bootloader, does it show you have S-OFF?
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No, and the threads I've read about downgrading to 2.2 through a goldcard hasn't worked. Would getting a stock 2.2 rom for it and flashing that work?

TacoSeeker said:
No, and the threads I've read about downgrading to 2.2 through a goldcard hasn't worked. Would getting a stock 2.2 rom for it and flashing that work?
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I don't believe so. You would still need S-OFF to flash that custom ROM anyhow.
This was the only video I found that was helpful. A lot of people complain about visionary bricking devices so I guess that's the inherent risk here, but I am still going strong. You must be on 2.2 to use the /gfree method as described in the video. Also, you will have to scour the web for the visionary APK and gfree files. I can't remember where I got them.
Downgrade using the first link, then root using the second. Do a factory reset and follow the steps to downgrade on unlockr EXACTLY and you will be fine. I know it's two different guides, but I had to piece these steps together pulling bits from each to get it to work. Be careful though, as always you take responsibility if you damage your phone using any method to root.
If you run into a misc_version permission denied error during this step, it's because you pushed the whole MISC folder and need to use:
/data/local/tmp/misc_version/misc_version -s 1.00.000.0
http://theunlockr.com/2011/10/25/ho...ire-z-desire-hd-and-mytouch-4g-back-to-froyo/
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/32293-mytouch-4g-rooting-234-ota-roam/
After that, read the GUIDE TO PERMANENT ROOT S-OFF here on XDA and piece together what you are missing.
That's the best I can do without being there with you. I am sorry.

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thevindicated said:
I don't believe so. You would still need S-OFF to flash that custom ROM anyhow.
This was the only video I found that was helpful. A lot of people complain about visionary bricking devices so I guess that's the inherent risk here, but I am still going strong. You must be on 2.2 to use the /gfree method as described in the video. Also, you will have to scour the web for the visionary APK and gfree files. I can't remember where I got them.
Downgrade using the first link, then root using the second. Do a factory reset and follow the steps to downgrade on unlockr EXACTLY and you will be fine. I know it's two different guides, but I had to piece these steps together pulling bits from each to get it to work. Be careful though, as always you take responsibility if you damage your phone using any method to root.
If you run into a misc_version permission denied error during this step, it's because you pushed the whole MISC folder and need to use:
/data/local/tmp/misc_version/misc_version -s 1.00.000.0
After that, read the GUIDE TO PERMANENT ROOT S-OFF here on XDA and piece together what you are missing.
That's the best I can do without being there with you. I am sorry.
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My bootloader still says S=On, but I just got finished flashing CM7 onto my device. So I think I'm pretty much done with this thread. Thank you for all of your help.
My only other concern would be if it's possible for me to restore the /data portion of my stock rom NANDroid backup to get all of my app data back. Would that work, or would the device brick because they're two diffrent OS's?

Thats HTC Dev for you. You gotta flash the kernel after the ROM. If you have S-ON, but flashed a rom and got it to work, then you basically have S-Off, otherwise you couldn't have flashed a rom. Good luck in flashing other roms in the future bro.

TacoSeeker said:
My bootloader still says S=On, but I just got finished flashing CM7 onto my device. So I think I'm pretty much done with this thread. Thank you for all of your help.
My only other concern would be if it's possible for me to restore the /data portion of my stock rom NANDroid backup to get all of my app data back. Would that work, or would the device brick because they're two diffrent OS's?
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Use titanium backup to extract the app data from the backup you made. Don't restore the data partition.
By the way, S-Off is far superior to HTC Dev unlock. You'll figure that out sooner or later.

Originally Posted by TacoSeeker
My bootloader still says S=On, but I just got finished flashing CM7 onto my device. So I think I'm pretty much done with this thread. Thank you for all of your help.
My only other concern would be if it's possible for me to restore the /data portion of my stock rom NANDroid backup to get all of my app data back. Would that work, or would the device brick because they're two diffrent OS's?
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Use titanium backup to extract the app data from the backup you made. Don't restore the data partition.
By the way, S-Off is far superior to HTC Dev unlock. You'll figure that out sooner or later.
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Yeah, I realize know that S=off is better. Like I said, I'm new to the whole ROM community thing so I thought an HTCDev unlock WAS S=off.
Anyway, thank you all for your help. Much appreciated.
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