What is the Difference between Hboot and firmware? - HTC Sensation

[Q] just wanted to know What is the Difference between Hboot and firmware?anyone can tell me?
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Alsager said:
[Q] just wanted to know What is the Difference between Hboot and firmware?anyone can tell me?
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Hi,
HBOOT is bootloader. It lives inside NAND's first partition, mtd0 (if partition map is MTD). It is loaded in memory (RAM) when device is switched ON. Its jobs are:
Check the Hardware.
Initialize the Hardware.
Start the Operating System (Either Android or Recovery).
HBOOT can also support doing more than this like flashing ROMs.
Something More: Nandroid backup and restore don't touch HBOOT.
Firmware is Froyo,Gingerbread,ICS,Jelly Bean,And there will be different radios associated with each.

malybru said:
Hi,
HBOOT is bootloader. It lives inside NAND's first partition, mtd0 (if partition map is MTD). It is loaded in memory (RAM) when device is switched ON. Its jobs are:
Check the Hardware.
Initialize the Hardware.
Start the Operating System (Either Android or Recovery).
HBOOT can also support doing more than this like flashing ROMs.
Something More: Nandroid backup and restore don't touch HBOOT.
Firmware is Froyo,Gingerbread,ICS,Jelly Bean,And there will be different radios associated with each.
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So if you change the firmware , would that change the hboot as well.
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Alsager said:
So if you change the firmware , would that change the hboot as well.
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Hi,
Yes.

malybru said:
Hi,
HBOOT is bootloader. It lives inside NAND's first partition, mtd0 (if partition map is MTD). It is loaded in memory (RAM) when device is switched ON. Its jobs are:
Check the Hardware.
Initialize the Hardware.
Start the Operating System (Either Android or Recovery).
HBOOT can also support doing more than this like flashing ROMs.
Something More: Nandroid backup and restore don't touch HBOOT.
Firmware is Froyo,Gingerbread,ICS,Jelly Bean,And there will be different radios associated with each.
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Excellent and at the same time simply explanation!
I could say that the HBOOT is like the Bios on a computer (or not? jjejejejejeje).
Each day I learn something new! Thanks

padre629 said:
Excellent and at the same time simply explanation!
I could say that the HBOOT is like the Bios on a computer (or not? jjejejejejeje).
Each day I learn something new! Thanks
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something like that

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[Q] H-boot version changed once I flashed a rom normal?

my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
rddocke said:
my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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Hboot is on a separate partition than rom. When you go from stock to rooted your hboot might change, depending on the root method.
Flashing a rom won't change it. Reverting to stock with an ruu will.
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rddocke said:
my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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You're good to go, that's how's it suppose to be. Make sure you have supercid, and also if you have time search in devolpement section for Bin4ry and flash Eng Hboot to be safe.
epsix said:
You're good to go, that's how's it suppose to be. Make sure you have supercid, and also if you have time search in devolpement section for Bin4ry and flash Eng Hboot to be safe.
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Thanks for4 the replies guys i havent messed with CID yet or Eng. currently running ARHD 3.6.0 i havent had any troubles rooting or flashing and speeds seem to be doing well.. i am still working on maximizing my battery life. its good i get about 15 hours when im not on wifi.
but how will Eng and CID help out?
Those are just gonna help you in the long run without bricking your phone if you do alot of flashing. Nothing to do with battery. Lol
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rddocke said:
Thanks for4 the replies guys i havent messed with CID yet or Eng. currently running ARHD 3.6.0 i havent had any troubles rooting or flashing and speeds seem to be doing well.. i am still working on maximizing my battery life. its good i get about 15 hours when im not on wifi.
but how will Eng and CID help out?
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Engineering hboot allows you to flash recovery and radio at a more basic level and can help you recover from a ****ed up state in some cases. Good idea to have.
Super CID just allows you to flash an ruu from another carrier and is completely unnecessary if you're flashing custom roms.
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epsix said:
Those are just gonna help you in the long run without bricking your phone if you do alot of flashing. Nothing to do with battery. Lol
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Hmm I'll look into it some more got any referrals for my research?
And ya I was just making a comment on my battery life I didn't think any of this would have an effect on battery life. Just pointing out successes. Fortunately haven't faced too difficult a situation with the sensation.
Now the galaxy s 2 on group via mini kies, bow that was a pain. Again thanks
Phateless said:
Engineering hboot allows you to flash recovery and radio at a more basic level and can help you recover from a ****ed up state in some cases. Good idea to have.
Super CID just allows you to flash an ruu from another carrier and is completely unnecessary if you're flashing custom roms.
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I mean how much more basic could it get then flashing under CWM? If there's a simpler way I'm all for it lol.
But seriously ill look into it some more I just figured dont fix what ain't broken you know?
Flashing the radio/recovery isn't done via CWM - it's done using fastboot commands
EddyOS said:
Flashing the radio/recovery isn't done via CWM - it's done using fastboot commands
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I was speaking of simplicity in general I'm just curiouse to what this more basic level would be. I did just fine with the flashing of o_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 without adb
rddocke said:
I was speaking of simplicity in general I'm just curiouse to what this more basic level would be. I did just fine with the flashing of o_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 without adb
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It provides you some extra options if something goes wrong.
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It provides you some extra options if something goes wrong.
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Ok cool thanks boss.
Is there anything to look for in a radio or zip before flashing that would tip me off to potential brickage or do you have to kinda just experience it?
rddocke said:
Ok cool thanks boss.
Is there anything to look for in a radio or zip before flashing that would tip me off to potential brickage or do you have to kinda just experience it?
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Make SURE it's the right radio for your device and check md5sum. Do a google search, md5sum is easy.
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Phateless said:
Make SURE it's the right radio for your device and check md5sum. Do a google search, md5sum is easy.
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Gotcha thanks. Also I'm sure there is a difference between eng s-off and the s-off using revolutionary.io since your here and we talkin about it, you have a definition for me in basic terms? Perhaps a link to someplace? I been looking in google but they start talking about ship s-off and radio s-off, I'm not sure what s-off I've done. I just knew it was necessary before perm rooting.
rddocke said:
Gotcha thanks. Also I'm sure there is a difference between eng s-off and the s-off using revolutionary.io since your here and we talkin about it, you have a definition for me in basic terms? Perhaps a link to someplace? I been looking in google but they start talking about ship s-off and radio s-off, I'm not sure what s-off I've done. I just knew it was necessary before perm rooting.
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Revolutionary does radio s-off which means the phone itself has security turned off and whatever hboot you have will display that. Eng s-off means the hboot is allowing the security bypass. Ship s-off just means it came that way from factory.
My understanding is somewhat rudimentary so I would appreciate one of the elders stepping in to clarify if I've missed anything.
We need s-off to give hboot permission to flash a custom recovery. Then we use the custom recovery because it permits us to make changes to the firmware, like the update that gave us root access.
The hierarchy goes radio, hboot, recovery, rom. Each is on a separate partition.
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Phateless said:
Revolutionary does radio s-off which means the phone itself has security turned off and whatever hboot you have will display that. Eng s-off means the hboot is allowing the security bypass. Ship s-off just means it came that way from factory.
My understanding is somewhat rudimentary so I would appreciate one of the elders stepping in to clarify if I've missed anything.
We need s-off to give hboot permission to flash a custom recovery. Then we use the custom recovery because it permits us to make changes to the firmware, like the update that gave us root access.
The hierarchy goes radio, hboot, recovery, rom. Each is on a separate partition.
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Wow ok that was very helpful. Looks like this is turning into quite a decent thread. I appreciate you for your knowledge spread.
I would like to see (as you put it) one of the elders step in here with their feedback as well.
I'm gonna go ahead and move to the next step (eng) and see where that will take me in my adventures of the sensation.
I am also interested to hear from other members about their achievements with their devices as far as CPU speeds and of the many tricks that can performed by the sensation. I find myself searching for that info all day.

[Q] Someone can upload a Nandroid Backup for me, please?

Hi, my phone is sort of in a coma right and I think that only a Nandroid Restore can save it right now.
Can someone upload for me a Nandroid Backup? So I can restore my Sensation 4G ? (Tmobile) ?
Thank you
M2oSa said:
Hi, my phone is sort of in a coma right and I think that only a Nandroid Restore can save it right now.
Can someone upload for me a Nandroid Backup? So I can restore my Sensation 4G ? (Tmobile) ?
Thank you
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Instead of going to the doctor and telling him the diagnosis, can you please explain exactly what's happening to your phone?
ReeF666 said:
Instead of going to the doctor and telling him the diagnosis, can you please explain exactly what's happening to your phone?
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Yes, right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1556926
Sorry
I'd be surprised if anyone will upload a backup for you. Nandroid takes a complete image of the device and as such is likely to contain all sorts of personal data.
I read your thread hand will try to help. Am i right to think that so far you have:
s-off?
SuperCID?
3.30 firmware?
Non-booting from but access to bootloader and fastboot?
Can you also reach recovery, and what is your hboot version as of now?
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M2oSa said:
Yes, right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1556926
Sorry
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It sounds like you've either got the incorrect firmware, or ROM, or it could be just incorrect check sums.
To save on re-writing everything that's been done thousands of times before, I'm going to provide this link to Android Revolution HD.
It describes how to do everything step by step. If you want to start from a clean base, just boot in to recovery, and wipe everything, switch it to USB mode, load your files on, and start flashing from scratch.
Remember, to make a nandroid every time you flash something new if you're unsure about anything. It's time consuming, but saves you a lot of time in the long run. I found out the hard way.
If you have any more problems, feel free to PM me, and I'll reply usually pretty quickly.
stringer7 said:
I'd be surprised if anyone will upload a backup for you. Nandroid takes a complete image of the device and as such is likely to contain all sorts of personal data.
I read your thread hand will try to help. Am i right to think that so far you have:
s-off?
SuperCID?
3.30 firmware?
Non-booting from but access to bootloader and fastboot?
Can you also reach recovery, and what is your hboot version as of now?
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Yes, you're right ! But I am using now the 3.32 Firmware and my Hboot version is 1.27.1100
ReeF666 said:
It sounds like you've either got the incorrect firmware, or ROM, or it could be just incorrect check sums.
To save on re-writing everything that's been done thousands of times before, I'm going to provide this link to Android Revolution HD.
It describes how to do everything step by step. If you want to start from a clean base, just boot in to recovery, and wipe everything, switch it to USB mode, load your files on, and start flashing from scratch.
Remember, to make a nandroid every time you flash something new if you're unsure about anything. It's time consuming, but saves you a lot of time in the long run. I found out the hard way.
If you have any more problems, feel free to PM me, and I'll reply usually pretty quickly.
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Thank you for your answer. I did this earlier this morning but nothing worked :/ ! The phone keeps rebooting after that. I tried to put a stock Tmobile Rom with the RUU but impossible to have my phone recognized with HTC Sync using the Toogle USB mode in EXT4 ! It's been two days now since my phone is off and I tried everything ! Áou guys are my last chance
Thanks
Boot into bootloader then run the ruu.
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dmcb123 said:
Boot into bootloader then run the ruu.
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Not working, phone is not detected
Boot into bootloader then run the ruu.<br />
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Agreed. SuperCID and s-off means you can run any ruu. If it doesn't run, something is stopping it:
Try the stock European ruu. Remove other software from PC that might sync with phone (HTC sync, double twist etc.) Check AV/firewall is not blocking ruu. Run ruu as administrator on your machine.
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Ruu is running.
The problem is when it says "Searching for the phone"
It doesn't find it
Try disabling anti virus and firewall uninstall all phone software from pc/lappy but leave HTC drivers and give it another shot sounds like you have something conflicting on there
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boroboy69r said:
Try disabling anti virus and firewall uninstall all phone software from pc/lappy but leave HTC drivers and give it another shot sounds like you have something conflicting on there
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Thank you for replying.
I don't have any Antivirus / Firewall and HTc Drivers are the only drivers that I installed (new windows set up).
Did u delet the pg58IMG.zip from sdcard, then boot into bootloader and run ruu?
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Yes, I did.
It says " Verifying info on your Android Phone, please wait " and then a Window pop up saying that the phone is not plugged in
1. Why 2 threads on the same thing?
2. I assume you have the drivers installed on your PC?
3. Is your phone a TMOUS 4G Sensation?
1/ They're not the same, actually
2/ Yes, I do have the drivers
3/ Yes, TMO 4G Sensation
I assume you're S-OFF with Super CID? If so...
1. Download this RUU:
http://www.4shared.com/file/Ww4udPO-/RUU_Pyramid_TMOUS_1505311_Radi.html
2. Download the guide attached to this post
3. Follow the guide, it may work for you
If the phone is still not working after flashing the right RUU then you'll need to send it back
Thanks for your answer, Eddy
GOOD NEWS, I was able to run the Android Revolution HD Rom by downgrading to the 3.12 Firmware. But I still can't run the Virtuous Inquisition Rom (My favorite so far )
I'll see if I'll be able to run it in the next updates
Thanks y'all for your help ! I really appreciate it
An a Thanks button for everyone ^_^
You need the 3.32 FW to run that ROM
EddyOS said:
I assume you're S-OFF with Super CID? If so...
1. Download this RUU:
http://www.4shared.com/file/Ww4udPO-/RUU_Pyramid_TMOUS_1505311_Radi.html
2. Download the guide attached to this post
3. Follow the guide, it may work for you
If the phone is still not working after flashing the right RUU then you'll need to send it back
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Is it possible to extract radio and ril from the ruu too? Would like to extract it from Vodafones newest ics release. What folder would it be under. Can't download it on my phone it would take me forever with my crap 2g network lol
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[SOLVED] Updated an S-Off Desire S with an official ICS

Hi,
Ok so I guess the problem is that I installed an official RUU on an S-OFF Desire S device. But that is my guess :crying:
After the installation was complete, there was a black screen on the device (with some minor back-light), and it was just stuck on it.
I removed the battery after a while and tried to Turn On the phone, and it showed the white HTC logo, then went to the Black Screen with a little bit of back-light. And stuck.
I can enter HBOOT, but in HBOOT I can't go to Recovery, when I try it gives me the black screen.
I can't mount USB or use Android Flash or adb because the device isn't recognized (Yes yes i have all the drivers and software),
it actually IS recognized by the PC, but not as something that can be manipulated.
I can't do Factory Reset, I tried, it gives me the Red Triangle. and nothing...
I don't think the phone is bricked, because HBOOT is working, and I can install stuff from it if I change it to P88IMG.ZIP.
Is there a chance there is a way to restore a recovery that I made with Clockwork and saved on my PC?
I've been searching this forum and the internet for many hours and can't find the answer.
Thank you up-front for any help!
did you follow this step ?
anazhd said:
did you follow this step ?
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I'm not sure which step you are speaking of.
My DesireS IS perfectly S-OFF.
I am saying this may have caused the problem, because I was installing official RUU ICS on a S-OFF device.
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Look at your HBOOT now. Does it still say S-OFF?
Don't assume, LOOK.
Your guess is wrong, there's nothing bad in installing RUU on S-OFF device - only that if you've achieved S-OFF through a hacked bootloader (opposed to "true" S-OFF by XTC-Clip), you will return to S-ON.
Jack_R1 said:
Look at your HBOOT now. Does it still say S-OFF?
Don't assume, LOOK.
Your guess is wrong, there's nothing bad in installing RUU on S-OFF device - only that if you've achieved S-OFF through a hacked bootloader (opposed to "true" S-OFF by XTC-Clip), you will return to S-ON.
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Hey Jack. It still shows S-OFF.
I don't remember how I achieved the S-OFF in the first place. So I don't know if it's "true" or the other one.
What can this be?!
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What is your HBOOT version?
The most probable explanation is that RUU install never completed properly.
HBOOT Version is 6.98.1002
Note that I tried installing a version of the ROM for S-OFF devices, from HBOOT, and it goes through the installation perfectly but nothing changes.
I also tried installing the official RUU again from PC and it doesn't recognize the device. :banghead:
The worst part is that this isn't even MY phone.. was helping someone and got in this mess
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MosesTheTool said:
HBOOT Version is 6.98.1002
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1) this hboot has write protection and cannot be replaced by RUU (that's why I always recommend to replace it immediately after using Revolutionary, just in case something goes wrong)
2) this hboot supports the old partition layout and has no separate /system/lib partition which is required by the official ICS. This is the reason it is not booting for you
How to solve: flash this bootloader. The system will boot fine after that. If there are issues clear the cache with the command
Code:
fastboot erase cache
OK I will try it when I get back from work. Thank you! I will post back if it helps or not.
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OK! So upgrading the HBOOT did the trick.
I installed the rom and now it's working.
Though I still can't access the recovery, but the worst is behind me.
Thank you guys for your quick and helpful tips. I really appreciate it. :thumbup:
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MosesTheTool said:
OK! So upgrading the HBOOT did the trick.
I installed the rom and now it's working.
Though I still can't access the recovery, but the worst is behind me.
Thank you guys for your quick and helpful tips. I really appreciate it. :thumbup:
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You are currently with the stock recovery. Install custom if you need it
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i did same mistake brother and my version of [Hboot]: ENG 7.00.1002 please help me too...
Did you try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679338

[Q] Sensation ****-up

Hi all, Sorry if this is in the wrong area but I'm not sure.
I've recently attempted to Root and flash CM9 to my HTC Sensation. I think I have cocked up in a big way.
My troubles are that in my sillyness I neglected to make a back up of the stock ROM and the phone is stuck on the screen with the robot and the swirling blue vortex thing behind him.
My question, is there a way to save the phone and is there a way to return to stock if all is not as it seems?
Oh and I've successfully rooted and flashed a S2 before until I killed it so I have a very limited knowlege when it comes to all the terms of this forum.
Thanks for any help you may be able to give me.
Mitch.
Are you s-off? If worst comes to it you should be able to run an ruu and go back to stock that way.
Have you booted to recovery and done a full wipe? Are you on the right firmware?
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chrisund123 said:
Are you s-off? If worst comes to it you should be able to run an ruu and go back to stock that way.
Have you booted to recovery and done a full wipe? Are you on the right firmware?
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It was running the stock ICS rom originally so I am not too sure on the firmware. S-Off? never read about that, Forgive me for being stupid, but what do you mean "run an RUU"?
Yes, I've done a full wipe in recovery.
EDIT - Better still, here is the instructions I was following, Mentions nout about S-Off?
theunlockr.com/2012/09/20/how-to-root-the-htc-sensation-on-hboot-version-1-27-0000/
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It was running the stock ICS rom originally so I am not too sure on the firmware. S-Off? never read about that, Forgive me for being stupid, but what do you mean "run an RUU"?
Yes, I've done a full wipe in recovery.
EDIT - Better still, here is the instructions I was following, Mentions nout about S-Off?
theunlockr.com/2012/09/20/how-to-root-the-htc-sensation-on-hboot-version-1-27-0000/
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S-off isnt terribly important - i guess you followed the htc-dev unlock?
Anyways s-off gives you access to more partitions so you do more with your phone in terms of flashing. In some respects its more desireable but not totally necessary.
An ruu is a rom update utility (check the shipped roms thread in the dev section). Its a windows exe that you run to put your phone into stock mode in all respects. You'll need to run the correct one for your phone though.
As for getting you out of your current situation have you tried doing a full wipe and flashing another rom?
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Yeah I followed the HTCDev site and it was successful. Is S-Off not needed to flash another ROM then? I'll look into the RUU as a just in case thing, are there instructions for it or is it another flash from SD Card thing? By full wipe you mean Data, Cache and Dalvik? Will try now if so.
thebowboy said:
Yeah I followed the HTCDev site and it was successful. Is S-Off not needed to flash another ROM then? I'll look into the RUU as a just in case thing, are there instructions for it or is it another flash from SD Card thing? By full wipe you mean Data, Cache and Dalvik? Will try now if so.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
in few steps
flash 4ext recovery
enable smartflash from it(because you re S-ON)
flash the rom
done
Fantastic advice mate. Phone now works and is soon much better. Will click the thanks button as soon as I find it lol.
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Hi, another question, I've got the Android Revolution Rom and fancy a change. Is there anything that needs to be changed to accept a Rom like, say, CM9?
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thebowboy said:
Hi, another question, I've got the Android Revolution Rom and fancy a change. Is there anything that needs to be changed to accept a Rom like, say, CM9?
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do a nandroid backup just in case
format all partitions except sdcard from recovery
enable smartflash
flash the rom(i think you may have to flash also gapps)
done
Alright thanks. Was just wondering just in case I brick the phone from missing something.
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Before I start messing around with my Sensation again, does Titanium app backup backup my game data or is there something that does The job?
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thebowboy said:
Before I start messing around with my Sensation again, does Titanium app backup backup my game data or is there something that does The job?
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Yes it does, if you select it. There should be a batch operation to do it. Use the green tick in the top right corner when you first start the app to get the batch operations. Exactly the same if you used it on the GS2.
Question, is there a reason why my Google Play Store keeps saying there is a server error? Is it cause of a wrong version of Gapps maybe?
thebowboy said:
Question, is there a reason why my Google Play Store keeps saying there is a server error? Is it cause of a wrong version of Gapps maybe?
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try to clean cache of the app
also try to log out and log in again
rzr86 said:
try to clean cache of the app
also try to log out and log in again
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Logged out and it kept asking me to log in each time I attempted to open Play Store but wouldnt allow me to open it. Just trying a factory reset to see if that helps. Sounding like a dunce, which Cache am I wiping?
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Logged out and it kept asking me to log in each time I attempted to open Play Store but wouldnt allow me to open it. Just trying a factory reset to see if that helps. Sounding like a dunce, which Cache am I wiping?
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from settings>manage applications(or something like that)
search for google play store and you will see an option for clearing cache
Never mind, the reboot worked. I now have a working Play Store.
rzr86 said:
from settings>manage applications(or something like that)
search for google play store and you will see an option for clearing cache
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Thanks for all the help mate. Appreciate it.

S-OFF for J butterfly, but not for regular butterfly?

So there's now a way to get S-OFF for the J Butterfly (here) but none for the Butterfly X920d or X920e. Do you think that since it's happened for the J butterfly, we will be getting it soon?
chocchief said:
So there's now a way to get S-OFF for the J Butterfly (here) but none for the Butterfly X920d or X920e. Do you think that since it's happened for the J butterfly, we will be getting it soon?
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Do the x920d/e phones have an sdcard? I forget.
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SharpIS03 said:
Do the x920d/e phones have an sdcard? I forget.
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Yes, x920d support sd card but x920e is not
heobanhki said:
Yes, x920d support sd card but x920e is not
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Thanks.
chocchief said:
So there's now a way to get S-OFF for the J Butterfly (here) but none for the Butterfly X920d or X920e. Do you think that since it's happened for the J butterfly, we will be getting it soon?
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In that case, perhaps it is possible for the x920d, but not the e. Sdcard is necessary as far as i know.
I don't know if unlimited is working on s-off for x920d, though. So, looks like you'll have to wait and see.
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SharpIS03 said:
Thanks.
In that case, perhaps it is possible for the x920d, but not the e. Sdcard is necessary as far as i know.
I don't know if unlimited is working on s-off for x920d, though. So, looks like you'll have to wait and see.
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I don't think that SD Card is necessary to gain S-Off. Sensation XL doesn have external SD Card Slot (just built in 16GB) but still it can be S-Offed
farazhassankhan said:
I don't think that SD Card is necessary to gain S-Off. Sensation XL doesn have external SD Card Slot (just built in 16GB) but still it can be S-Offed
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Perhaps. Having an external sdcard makes it easier to get s-off, from what i have heard.
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@TeamAndIRC are working on it. I tried to help but he needs the X920D update.zip which I don't have. If anyone of you guy have it, please contact them immediately so they can add support for our Butterfly. https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/303352913521147905
keithleyson said:
@TeamAndIRC are working on it. I tried to help but he needs the X920D update.zip which I don't have. If anyone of you guy have it, please contact them immediately so they can add support for our Butterfly.
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I just tweeted him with a link to download the fully-functional update.zip which containing the full system of X920d ( version 1.14.709.1 , which is the second OTA update for Taiwan market. )
Hopefully they can add x920d in the initial release.
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hey is there any updates on whether x920d/e (i use a d) has s-off yet?
S-OFF
Stupid question maybe but what is: "S-OFF"
I found it, i put this here for other people who don't know:
For those of you (like me) scratching your heads because you never heard of s-off:
In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag.
How Do I Know If My Device Is S-ON Or S-OFF?
That is easy to verify. Simply boot into HBOOT on your device, and the text on top will show the flag status as either S-OFF or S-ON. A full root generally means S-OFF.
S-OFF – What And Why?
In their devices, HTC have installed a sort of security check whose level is determined by S-OFF/S-ON. Essentially, this security level is a flag stored on the device’s radio that checks signature images for any firmware before it is allowed to be written to system memory. This hinders using any custom ROMs, splash images, recovery etc., and also restricts access to the NAND flash memory. However, when security level is set to S-OFF, the signature check is bypassed, allowing a user to upload custom firmware images, unsigned boot, recovery, splash and HBOOT images, as well as official firmware that has been modified, this enabling maximum customization of your HTC Android device.
Furthermore, S-OFF also reduces restrictions on accessing the NAND flash memory on the device, allowing all partitions (including /system) to be mounted in write mode while the operating system is booted.
Thanks for the poster of this article since it isn't me who wrote this

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