Asked this question over on the Note 8.0 forum but will also ask you here as well since the two tablets are pretty similar other than in form factor and that you have had more time to play. Was hoping to explore the pros and cons of flashing a custom rom on this device as, unlike on other devices, the spen has functionality that goes beyond barebones androids capabilities.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2278047
please take a look and let me know your thoughts.
Thanks,
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SO, I already have a wallaby, and love it. But it does fall short on several needs/wants that I have. I'm confused on which unit is which, and what thier differences are, so I would like to poll anyone that will comment....
I want BT.... phone BT, but networking and a BT stereo headset would be nice
WiFi
The best camera. Which one has the best picture..... I'd like to take decent enough pictures that I could print 5X7's and they would look respectable.
Ability to unlock, I'm using Tmo USA
And I want the ability to cook or modify the ROM/Ext ROM. I love the fact that I can upgrade to whichever ROM I want, with whichever programs I'd like, that survives a hard reset.
I like the fact that the Blueangel has more buttons on the face (for gaming and custom apps) and the slide keyboard is nice, but I think an external clipon/plugin type would be fine.
SO, who knows what????? I'm confused with which unit is codenamed what. Also, I use phonescoop.com to do my research on exactly which unit is which, and they don't list all the variants. I think it would be better if someone would post a thread or make a wiki page on the features and benafits of each unit, as well as the codename. If someone would provide me with the info, I'll make a wiki page(s) with all of them.
Thanks in advance!
SO.... I feel like an ASS.
After looking around for a moment, I see that some of us have participated in the wiki a little further than the last time I looked.... and I found some answers. My only questions are...
is there anything that you can do to a Himilaya that you can't do to an Alpine?
And is the camera actually better, or is it just software enhancements? I've read info that says better hardware and/or software......
TIA!
Well, in time you can do the excact same thing to them both, i'm thinking about installing what ever ROM you want when a tool for doing so is finished.
The camera is better and it aint just software. 1.3 MegaPx like the Magician.
Try google
Hello all,
Just recently purchased an HTC Fuze with AT&T.
Being familiar with flashing firmwares and ROMs on several devices I understand that it IS a trial and error method of seeing which one you prefer or suits your needs best. However, I think I need more basic understanding of them to help me decide what I'm even looking at.
- What was the initial purpose for people developing ROMs? Just for aesthetic purposes, to change the look of the phone?
- What are the benefits to be gained in battery power and operation of TouchFlo?
- Again, I understand that everyone has different tastes and will therefore loike different ROMs but what differentiates them? Is one considered better built than others? More features, less glitches, crashing, etc?
- Clearly, it must be possible to somehow find a list of all apps that can be added and add just the things you want by yourself?
Finally, is there one good tutorial that explains EVERY step from beginning to end? As always with these kinds of things, there are lots of instructions lying around but most of them speak to people who already know all the jargon and terms. Or they refer to apps as though you know what they're talking about. "noob tutorial" doesn't mean anything if it's not easy to use for someone who's never applied a ROM.
Thanks a lot guys, being new here, I'd really appreciate any help you might offer.
Hey hows it goin guys...im new to the forums here and im new to windows mobile as well, just recently switched over to the mogul from the instinct and well im wayyy more satisfied with it than I ever was with my instinct.
Right now i'm running a custom ROM on my Mogul, Titanium v. something...it definately improved the usability of the device over the default OS, but still is a little laggy for my taste. Not to fear ill be getting a touch pro either tomorrow or monday so that's where my real interest currently lies.
Lemme get to my point.
Basically i'm here to introduce myself considering ill probably be spending alot of time here (and to be honest, at other forums as well) after I get my pro, and also cause I have some questions about stuff i'd like to understand. Before I ask anything i just wanna make it clear that i personally am very knowledgeable when it comes to techincal aspects of the computer world in general so I don't have too hard of a time understanding majority of things.
Now for my questions.
1. What is the difference between using the default sprint rom or a custom one? Advantages vs. disadvantages? What should I be considering in selecting a ROM for use? What's the best one? What is a 'kitchen'?
2. What is the difference between the different radios? What are the disadvantages/advantages of using different ones? What is the purpose of changing to a different radio? What's the best one?
3. Any important/useful tweaks/hacks/software I should know about to improve the usage of my device? If i'm going to be venturing into the world of 'custom ROM flashing' and 'radios' and etc, what else do I need to know? What different factors should I take into account that will affect the stability of my device?
I think I had some other things I wanted to ask but I can't remember them right now, if i think of them later i'll post.
And I understand that I could probably search and find the answer to some of these questions, but I feel that by asking them this way i'll probably get a better answer. I have a basic understanding of my above questions right now, but i'd like to have a better-than-basic understanding if you know what I mean.
Thanks in advance to anyone who responds to this, I appreciate the help.
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Hey hows it goin guys...im new to the forums here and im new to windows mobile as well, just recently switched over to the mogul from the instinct and well im wayyy more satisfied with it than I ever was with my instinct.
Right now i'm running a custom ROM on my Mogul, Titanium v. something...it definately improved the usability of the device over the default OS, but still is a little laggy for my taste. Not to fear ill be getting a touch pro either tomorrow or monday so that's where my real interest currently lies.
Lemme get to my point.
Basically i'm here to introduce myself considering ill probably be spending alot of time here (and to be honest, at other forums as well) after I get my pro, and also cause I have some questions about stuff i'd like to understand. Before I ask anything i just wanna make it clear that i personally am very knowledgeable when it comes to techincal aspects of the computer world in general so I don't have too hard of a time understanding majority of things.
Now for my questions.
1. What is the difference between using the default sprint rom or a custom one? Advantages vs. disadvantages? What should I be considering in selecting a ROM for use? What's the best one? What is a 'kitchen'?
2. What is the difference between the different radios? What are the disadvantages/advantages of using different ones? What is the purpose of changing to a different radio? What's the best one?
3. Any important/useful tweaks/hacks/software I should know about to improve the usage of my device? If i'm going to be venturing into the world of 'custom ROM flashing' and 'radios' and etc, what else do I need to know? What different factors should I take into account that will affect the stability of my device?
I think I had some other things I wanted to ask but I can't remember them right now, if i think of them later i'll post.
And I understand that I could probably search and find the answer to some of these questions, but I feel that by asking them this way i'll probably get a better answer. I have a basic understanding of my above questions right now, but i'd like to have a better-than-basic understanding if you know what I mean.
Thanks in advance to anyone who responds to this, I appreciate the help.
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Hey all
Firstly I know the answer is out there and I can find it if I researched a bit. Problem is that I am now the proud father of a 3 day old baby boy. So all my time has been consumed by poo and puke. So I apologise for the question without doing the reading first.
Anyway, I have the TF700 as a tablet for me and my wife. I have been sticking to the standard ROMs to keep something that she will be happy with and with minimal bugs. But I have hit my limit. ASUS ROMs are absolutely terrible. I'm on 4.2.1 now and I still prefer to use my phone as it's so much quicker and responsive. I can't believe I choose a 4.3" screen over the tablet.
So, what I am ultimately asking for is for someone to suggest a responsive and stable custom ROM for me to use. It doesn't have to have a ton of features, it just must work. Preferably one that a novice can flash
Thanks for any help
Alan
Just so you know, firstly, this is not the correct forum to post these kinds of questions. The general forum would be the place to ask. The dev forum is only for dev's to post their work/mods/roms/kernels/etc in. A mod will probably move this to the correct place once they notice it.
As for the answer to your question, almost everyone will tell CROMi-X is the way to go for a stable, fast custom rom. It's close to stock
asus, but with a ton of optimization. I'd recommended this rom unless you REALLY need have lots of flashy toys, then head over to CM,
but you will lose a bit of stability and speed, at least in my experience.
Faustus1005 handled all the unpleasant bits, so I can keep to a recommendation of CROMI-X. Stock-based, minimal bugs (at least none that the stock ROM doesn't also have, hahaha) and all necessary drivers and config stuff, etcetera.
Thanks for the replies
I'll go and have a look at getting that flashed. Next challenge is to root it which I've heard is not that easy with 4.2.1
MotoChopper seems to do the trick.
Oh, and errr... by the way: from a "young" father of two (aged 3, having her birthday today) and 4 (almost 5) -- congratulations, and good luck, hahaha! Have fun, too! It's one helluva ride, but a great time, too. I wouldn't have had it all that differently if given the option. :good:
hi could you post some good beginners reading guides on anything related to whatever you do since im new. im new so i ask questions like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2392704
actually someone new won't even know what bluestack is.
i have to start reading up on all this stuff. it doesnt have to be on this site, just readings so i have a better understanding of all this
pleaseeeeeeeeee
phonebroken said:
hi could you post some good beginners reading guides on anything related to whatever you do since im new. im new so i ask questions like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2392704
actually someone new won't even know what bluestack is.
i have to start reading up on all this stuff. it doesnt have to be on this site, just readings so i have a better understanding of all this
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Since you mentioned your eager to understand what goes on here at XDA I would highly recommend taking a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073370. It contains links to approximately 108 guides that explains everything from what is logcat and compiling Android from source to explaining about MODs and Tweaks, to how to compile and modify your own Android ROMs. Also if you still have any questions feel free to ask me I'll be happy to help you out .
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great! though i need an overview guide --
like what is a rom?
why would you want to port or create roms?
why do you want to log?
same with the other topics
none of these seem especially helpful or specific to my problem :/
i think the "Tools and mods,tweaks" and "Misc" sections has the most helpful things
but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there
phonebroken said:
great! though i need an overview guide --
like what is a rom?
why would you want to port or create roms?
why do you want to log?
same with the other topics
none of these seem especially helpful or specific to my problem :/
i think the "Tools and mods,tweaks" and "Misc" sections has the most helpful things
but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there
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To answer your questions:
like what is a rom?
A ROM as defined on the XDA wiki and the Android terms glossary thread is:
The ROM holds the Operating system and other components such as the bluetooth and wifi stacks. The ROM is accompanied by the Radio, Ext_ROM, SPL and IPL. Carriers such as T-mobile or Vodaphone taylor the ROM to their specifications and version numbers do not carry the same meaning across different carriers. IF the carrier you use supports the device well they will usually release regular ROM updates.
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Rom/Firmware:Read-Only Memory and technically speaking, it refers to the internal storage of a device, which is supposed to contain the operating system instructions that needn’t be modified at all during the device’s normal operation.
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why would you want to port or create roms?
Developers create and port ROM's for a variety of reasons. One reason is because they want the latest version of Android on a device that doesn't officially support the latest version of Android. For example the last officially supported version of Android on the Nexus S was 4.1.2 but developers compiled Android 4.3 for it so Nexus S users can enjoy all the latest features and benefits of Android 4.3. A second reason is because developers add features and performance enhancements that the original device manufacturer never could have envisioned or left out. Cyanogenmod, AOKP, and Paranoid Android are all perfect examples of custom ROM's that were developed to increase performance and add many new features. A third reason, is that if you like a ROM but it isn't available for your device, developer's will port it over do the device they want it on (Note: This process can range from very simple to extremely complex) so they have that ROM's features on there device. A fourth reason is theming, some times user's will create custom ROM's that include a heavily modified or changed user interface and then distribute the changes. However ROM's that are just themed and no other changes made are becoming less prevalent due to additions of universal theme engines such as the XPOSED Framework .
why do you want to log?
Logging allows developers to see where the problems are and what is causing certain functionality such as Wifi, graphics, touchscreen, app problems, etc. to not work correctly. The log gives a detailed report of what is not working and a starting point troubleshooting where the error occurs. Developers then look at the logs and fix the error messages they are receiving. Without logs it would be close to impossible to fix any problems you ran into when developing a ROM.
Another set of guides that is an excellent source of information is -NickHalden-'s Guide Ride-From a Newbie to a Dev, Get all you need here. It takes you like you wanted from just understanding the basics, all the way up to developing ROM's and other cool stuff yourself. It also includes a very helpful numerical order that you can follow along so you don't miss any important information along the way. Also I am curious as to what you mean by "but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there"? Can you give an example? Additionally you can rate threads and see the threads ratting if they have one at the top of the thread for what users have rated it, this is usually (Though not always) a good indication of how helpful people have found the information in that thread. And if you have any other questions let me know I'm always happy to answer them .
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
phonebroken said:
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
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Regarding a central place to find information the easiest way to find it to often search either using XDA's "Search All Forums" button in the upper right hand corner, or to use Google and search something such as "xda {your search term here}" or "{your search term here} xda" (For example "xda root nexus 10" etc.). Another way to find things is simply browse through the massive amount of helpful information that can be found on XDA simply by browsing around, I have learned countless, countless things this way. If there is a specific subject or topic your interested in let me know and I'll be happy to help you look for it or point you in the right direction. To answer your keyboard question, this is a interesting dilemma as an incoming computer engineering student problems like the one your described are very fascinating to me. I suspect what will happen in the future (2-3 years or sooner) is that we will see fold-able screens that we can roll up and put in our pockets or much more flexible keyboards that you can roll up into your pocket will be developed. But overall the keyboard and real typing experience you mentioned is a very real dilemma.
phonebroken said:
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
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Something like this maybe?