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Hi there.
I know there's probably nothing irritates you guys more than a n00b asking for assistance in doing something techie, but have pity...
I'm not a total tech divvy, I have no problem with pooters, but I've never had the reason to dissect code, or get up with the workings of the PDA or mobile phone, so I'm really clueless, here.
I have some general wonderments...
as well as requests for advice and assistance.
I have an O2 XDA Exec which I love, and haven't got the money to upgrade at present, and so, would like to milk as much performance out of it as possible.
I work in a business where contacts, bookings and diary dates are essential, as is communication via SMS and telephone (and one day, if it becomes cheap enough, push email would be nice). This device is running 24/7, keeping me informed, running my business, and its wonderful, such a problem when it 'goes down.' It has been running nearly flawlessly for almost 18 months, and much as I'd love to upgrade to a TyTn 2 when my contract expires, I also want to leave options open for a 3G and application-friendly iPhone, or indeed something better from HTC.
I have a few niggles to address.
First, the alarms, of which there are many required, are completely fubar unless I have AlarmToday installed. Fair enough. I understand that this is a 'Windows Mobile' issue, and I can live with using a small app to fix the problem. Are there any better solutions. I also have two 'tweaks' type apps installed, which claim to fix the issues that cause non-sounding alarms on WM PDA phones.
Second, I need a good one-glance Today screen, professional looking, and a comprehensive listing of diary dates and (possibly) text messages etc. But all the ones I seem to use appear to slow my XDA to a crawl.
Third, I need to use a good PIM, and chose Pocket Informant 2007, which is a great app, but now I'm struggling because my XDA seems to be grinding to a halt.
I noticed that when the battery hits about 57% it starts to crap out, freeze up, stop running apps etc. I replaced the battery with a brand new one, and it still does it. Also, the system is sometimes so slow, or the phone rings and the side buttons (pickup and hang up) don't do a damn thing...
A friend recommended that many bugs and issues of speed were resolved in WM6, so, of course, I'm looking for a good WM6 build to replace my standard (latest) ROM and OS from O2 on the XDA exec... essentially I only need the base featureset that came as standard, as long as my apps will still work. I have standard memory in the exec and 512 meg SD card.
Can someone please be bold and recommend the virtues of two or three WM6 builds for utmost reliability and functionality bearing in mind what I've said about the use and needs of the phone, and perhaps lead me to the right place, and the right procedures. I'm thinking that if a PDA phone is anything like a pooter, it might need a backup to hard disk, then a good clear out and a reinstall to try to break the backlog of clogging or something, and any tips on doing this/better apps/faster today screens would be really, really appreciated... I need input on this, because the last thing I can afford to do is brick the XDA or kick its usefulness into touch for significant periods.
I appreciate someone's help!
Many thanks,
Steve
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Cooked_ROMs
Hi, and thanks for that, but I had seen that page before, and though I'm sure it sounds completely n00b to you, all I see are some names, which mean nothing to me, and some numbers, which mean nothing to me, and some hints toward notes explaining what I do with pieces of software that I don't know anything about and don't understand.
I appreciate that you guys are techie enough to write this stuff, but surely the purpose of you writing it is to provide it as a solution for people who aren't techie enough to write it, otherwise Microsoft win out over independent developers by making a product that is user friendly and self explanatory, rather than impossibly intricate and mysterious...
Still holding out for a more explanatory response, if someone would be so kind.
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Hi, and thanks for that, but I had seen that page before, and though I'm sure it sounds completely n00b to you, all I see are some names, which mean nothing to me, and some numbers, which mean nothing to me, and some hints toward notes explaining what I do with pieces of software that I don't know anything about and don't understand.
I appreciate that you guys are techie enough to write this stuff, but surely the purpose of you writing it is to provide it as a solution for people who aren't techie enough to write it, otherwise Microsoft win out over independent developers by making a product that is user friendly and self explanatory, rather than impossibly intricate and mysterious...
Still holding out for a more explanatory response, if someone would be so kind.
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Just download one of the roms, put your device into bootloader mode (backlight button + Power button + soft reset), and run the upgrade exe file from your comp. Simple!
Thats all you need to know for flashing your uni. When you're in bootloader mode, check the version number in the bottom. If its 1.xx you have a G3 based uni, else its a G4 uni (ver 2.xx). Some roms are compatible only with G3 based devices....so check what you're about to flash.
I'd recommend Ranju's latest rom (v6) as it is really stable and has all the right applications and configuration in it.
All the best to ya!
San
OK, thanks. Will give that a try.
I've been following the forums for about a year, when I flashed an 8525, and now I have a tilt. Flashed to a new att rom, and just on Monday flashed to a wm6.1 rom. But there are a lot of rom's to choose from.
I propose that we create a sticky, with a listing of all the rom's, so that its easier on everyone, to find the data. No more need for flames, for folks that find the data and exchange a bit daunting.
In this sticky, I'd also propose that key attrtibutes of each rom, be used for comparison. Like, for example, whether OneNote is included, what programs are behind the HTC home, what colors are the primary interface (I personally dislike black, and love blue), what radio is suggested, and what additional software is included. Or what media player is the primary one. HTC's Audio manager sounds good, but... it plays disc's in Alphabetical order and not track order like WMP. I like track order best.
I'd also suggest that there be links to screenshots.
I just think it would have helped me make a better choice of rom's, or to really evaluate what my needs are, as opposed to the creator's needs.
To me its like car shopping.
zibbie said:
I've been following the forums for about a year, when I flashed an 8525, and now I have a tilt. Flashed to a new att rom, and just on Monday flashed to a wm6.1 rom. But there are a lot of rom's to choose from.
I propose that we create a sticky, with a listing of all the rom's, so that its easier on everyone, to find the data. No more need for flames, for folks that find the data and exchange a bit daunting.
In this sticky, I'd also propose that key attrtibutes of each rom, be used for comparison. Like, for example, whether OneNote is included, what programs are behind the HTC home, what colors are the primary interface (I personally dislike black, and love blue), what radio is suggested, and what additional software is included. Or what media player is the primary one. HTC's Audio manager sounds good, but... it plays disc's in Alphabetical order and not track order like WMP. I like track order best.
I'd also suggest that there be links to screenshots.
I just think it would have helped me make a better choice of rom's, or to really evaluate what my needs are, as opposed to the creator's needs.
To me its like car shopping.
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There was a thread like this. It was created by a mod and it's in a sticky. Why does no one read it? Because it stopped being updated for one reason or another...
List of Kaiser Rom Threads and Download Links...First Page...Last Page ...First Unread Post
There is also a page on the wiki, which can be updated by anyone. If you're serious about your suggestions, how about making them. Remember to keep it unbiased. You can start here: Available Cooked ROM Versions
Perhaps your thread, sir, is redundant.
*wonders why nobody reads the threads any more...*
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Perhaps your thread, sir, is redundant.
*wonders why nobody reads the threads any more...*
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I totally agreed with you.
How many of these "I have a suggestion" type of threads are we going to have??? OMG! Maybe we should have a "I have a suggestion" sub-section!
LOL. _ALEX_ you famous. 2 posts and both quote you. LOL. I'm loving this. And people said I was just a mean person and I should learn to help. I see others are now starting to become fed up with all the BS that goes on lately.
TO the OP (original poster/in case you didn't know)
PLease read the sticky
Well I have read it...
and I didn't see a comparison chart of each release, and the relative merits of any of the software.
But that's ok, because in your eyes, I'm a noob, and therefore common respect, really isn't even offered, or even expected. Its just a way for you all to complain.
I've read the wiki, or I wouldn't have been able to flash the rom, or get a new radio. Or themes.
It was only a suggestion, one I never thought you'd go with, because then you can't have the tiered society. Us noobs, aren't people. In you world we are incapable of reading.
Could it be, that there is just too much info to reasonably digest, while we also hold down jobs, and live reasonable lives. Nope, that couldn't be it. Us noobs are just the whipping boys.
Got it. Loud and clear.
zibbie said:
and I didn't see a comparison chart of each release, and the relative merits of any of the software.
But that's ok, because in your eyes, I'm a noob, and therefore common respect, really isn't even offered, or even expected. Its just a way for you all to complain.
I've read the wiki, or I wouldn't have been able to flash the rom, or get a new radio. Or themes.
It was only a suggestion, one I never thought you'd go with, because then you can't have the tiered society. Us noobs, aren't people. In you world we are incapable of reading.
Could it be, that there is just too much info to reasonably digest, while we also hold down jobs, and live reasonable lives. Nope, that couldn't be it. Us noobs are just the whipping boys.
Got it. Loud and clear.
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I didn't whip you at all in this thread. I just want to see less suggestions and more actual work. Have at the 'Available Cooked ROMs' page and OWN it.
I think everyone else is reading my recent bunch of posts and thinkng I'm just trashing everyone, when I'm not... I'm just being really honest in my posts and holding nothing back...
EDIT2: The quickest way for your suggestions to be put into place is to DO IT YOURSELF.
(edit3) It's the reason why I stopped asking if I should create a rollup sticky or update the wiki. Just like good old Bo Jackson, I followed the creedo of JUST DO IT. (Copyright Nike - please don't sue me...)
zibbie said:
and I didn't see a comparison chart of each release, and the relative merits of any of the software.
But that's ok, because in your eyes, I'm a noob, and therefore common respect, really isn't even offered, or even expected. Its just a way for you all to complain.
I've read the wiki, or I wouldn't have been able to flash the rom, or get a new radio. Or themes.
It was only a suggestion, one I never thought you'd go with, because then you can't have the tiered society. Us noobs, aren't people. In you world we are incapable of reading.
Could it be, that there is just too much info to reasonably digest, while we also hold down jobs, and live reasonable lives. Nope, that couldn't be it. Us noobs are just the whipping boys.
Got it. Loud and clear.
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what about my post was whipping you? I even said please. Now to be honest, who is going to have the time to write up a visual chart of what has what and what doesn't ROM. I suggest, go to each individual Rom and write down "What I like" & "What I don't like" and go from there. Everything on here is provided for free. Alex didn't have to create a kitchen with tutorails for people to cook, but he took the initiative. The chef's didn't have to release their roms for everyone to use, criticize and tear apart but they took the initiative and did so.
Now, my suggestion is if you want something like you stated in your OP, why don't you take the initiative and create it instead of offering a suggestion and hoping someone else will create it for you. I'm sure some would appreciate it even.
<<steps down from soapbox now.
zibbie said:
and I didn't see a comparison chart of each release, and the relative merits of any of the software.
But that's ok, because in your eyes, I'm a noob, and therefore common respect, really isn't even offered, or even expected. Its just a way for you all to complain.
I've read the wiki, or I wouldn't have been able to flash the rom, or get a new radio. Or themes.
It was only a suggestion, one I never thought you'd go with, because then you can't have the tiered society. Us noobs, aren't people. In you world we are incapable of reading.
Could it be, that there is just too much info to reasonably digest, while we also hold down jobs, and live reasonable lives. Nope, that couldn't be it. Us noobs are just the whipping boys.
Got it. Loud and clear.
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Actually, sir, what I said was this post was redundant because we already have a recent and active thread about this very subject. However, since you insist on having this conversation in the redundant thread rather than the actual thread I've already linked to...
The issue with your suggestion is "relative merits". This is going to vary widely depending on who you talk to. I hate GPS Tool and love GPSTest. I like HTC Home and threaded SMS. I can't stand the HTC Calculator but love 1Calc. Guess how many people disagree with my likes/dislikes... Yeah...most every has some different ones. So how, pray tell, are we to make you a chart with those merits?
As for the list of programs included, sorry but have you seen the first posts of the release threads? That chart would be 200 pages long to include all of that. I know it's a lot of information, but honestly the best way to do it is have a list of links to the ROMs and let you click on each and read just the first post or two by the chef. Then you can determine for yourself which one has features/apps you are interested in. By pure coincidence, I have an updated version of the Cooked ROMs wiki I'll be putting in place in a few hours that has the list of roms by OS version, then by Chef, then by date. That should make it a bit easier to navigate the information.
And to reiterate _Alex_'s statement...this is a forum and we have a wiki...if you see something is missing that would help...then work on it yourself. Let others know it's there and you'll probably even get help with getting it tweaked out and chocked full of info. This whole place is here because of community input. Offer something back.
It's not that you are a n00b that we get snippy. We all were/are (depending on how you look at it). At least not from my point of view. It's that while we're talking about how to deal with redundant threads...you make one. Others may have different reasons for acting the way they do towards you, but that is the entirety of my reasons for my actions.
Hello all,
Having recently upgraded my Hermes to a Kaiser (well actually a AT & T Tilt) and re-flashing it with Schaps 4.30 Rom i have since noticed a sharp decline in performance (compared with my Hermes).
This lead me to look around for something 'better' coming across Duttys cooked ROM and has prompted me to initiate this thread.
Has anyone done a 'review' of the major cooked ROM's out there or even better, put them head to head?
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Hello all,
Having recently upgraded my Hermes to a Kaiser (well actually a AT & T Tilt) and re-flashing it with Schaps 4.30 Rom i have since noticed a sharp decline in performance (compared with my Hermes).
This lead me to look around for something 'better' coming across Duttys cooked ROM and has prompted me to initiate this thread.
Has anyone done a 'review' of the major cooked ROM's out there or even better, put them head to head?
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NOPE. Feel free to be the first.
new_ppc_user said:
Hello all,
Having recently upgraded my Hermes to a Kaiser (well actually a AT & T Tilt) and re-flashing it with Schaps 4.30 Rom i have since noticed a sharp decline in performance (compared with my Hermes).
This lead me to look around for something 'better' coming across Duttys cooked ROM and has prompted me to initiate this thread.
Has anyone done a 'review' of the major cooked ROM's out there or even better, put them head to head?
P1Tater said:
NOPE. Feel free to be the first.
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Be aware that it will be your full-time job as new ROMs come out almost every 2-3 days.
well lets put it this way. im sure many of you have tried several different roms on your devices.
can anyone shed some light our input into the major rom players?
answer this question and you will get it
Do you like apple or orange ?
They are both fruit but you cannot head to head compare them.
Beside that newer rom is likely but not necessarily to be better. Try around with different Rom and radio to get your favorite one. Well, It takes about 15 mins to flash so you can pretty much try all the Rom in here in few days. In the end, if you are not happy , do some extensive research so you can brew your own.
Dutty Rom is popular and pretty suitable to start up.
aberz said:
answer this question and you will get it
Do you like apple or orange ?
They are both fruit but you cannot head to head compare them.
Beside that newer rom is likely but not necessarily to be better. Try around with different Rom and radio to get your favorite one. Well, It takes about 15 mins to flash so you can pretty much try all the Rom in here in few days. In the end, if you are not happy , do some extensive research so you can brew your own.
Dutty Rom is popular and pretty suitable to start up.
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i like both !! so that still doesnt answer my question.
unfortunately, i currently have a pretty hectic schedule so i cant really afford to flash and re-flash my unit all the time. in addition it would take quite a while as i have quite a few additional programs on there.
i am under the impression that Dutty and Schap and the two major players here?
things i need to consider:
- speed of operating system
- ease of use
- stability
- usefull applications
new_ppc_user said:
i like both !! so that still doesnt answer my question.
unfortunately, i currently have a pretty hectic schedule so i cant really afford to flash and re-flash my unit all the time. in addition it would take quite a while as i have quite a few additional programs on there.
i am under the impression that Dutty and Schap and the two major players here?
things i need to consider:
- speed of operating system
- ease of use
- stability
- usefull applications
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Sleuth would also be considered a major player here...
In regards to what you want in a ROM, all signs are pointing to Dutty's except for the useful applications. Just add em yourself though...
His is the fastest ROM I have ever used for any device, including the Hermes...
However, opinions are like assholes....
new_ppc_user said:
i like both !! so that still doesnt answer my question.
unfortunately, i currently have a pretty hectic schedule so i cant really afford to flash and re-flash my unit all the time. in addition it would take quite a while as i have quite a few additional programs on there.
i am under the impression that Dutty and Schap and the two major players here?
things i need to consider:
- speed of operating system
- ease of use
- stability
- usefull applications
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So let me get this straight. You want someone else to do all the work and let you reap the benefits? I see now.
My God man. They cooked the rom. What more do you want? You want me to flash your phone for you? WOW.
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So let me get this straight. You want someone else to do all the work and let you reap the benefits? I see now.
My God man. They cooked the rom. What more do you want? You want me to flash your phone for you? WOW.
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He's got a pretty hectic schedule unlike us.
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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He's got a pretty hectic schedule unlike us.
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cuz all we do is spoonfeed
new_ppc_user said:
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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No, I dont look for reviews of roms. I flash them and if I dont like them I flash a different one. I have literally tried every single rom (that is in English unlike ATW who even tries foriegn languages) to try and find the one that works best for me. I suggest you do the same and quit asking for someone to do the work for you. The reason I say this is that I can't tell you how many times this same question has been asked. You are definitely not the first nor will you be the last. It seems as though it comes up at least once a week. So, read the first post of the rom, if you dont like what you read or see then move on to the next. Either that or do as most of us do and flash it.
new_ppc_user said:
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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We don't need to scour the internet looking for reviews. We just read the threads in the forum and test ourselves. All the information you will ever need is found in these forums.
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No, I dont look for reviews of roms. I flash them and if I dont like them I flash a different one. I have literally tried every single rom (that is in English unlike ATW who even tries foriegn languages) to try and find the one that works best for me. I suggest you do the same and quit asking for someone to do the work for you. The reason I say this is that I can't tell you how many times this same question has been asked. You are definitely not the first nor will you be the last. It seems as though it comes up at least once a week. So, read the first post of the rom, if you dont like what you read or see then move on to the next. Either that or do as most of us do and flash it.
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Yup... with this guy... it's very easy to use PIM backup and your storage card to backup your vitals before flashing. Sure it's tedious, but that's how this all works. People will review different ROMS on different criteria and it's up to you to find what makes you happy.
new_ppc_user said:
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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Smart man , you want to pay the least to get the most .
1st fold
You want to do as little as possible, so we have to do more to cover your work ? > Fail
2nd fold
There is no "we" and "as users" , should be " I " " as a lazy leecher"
And there is also no point in promoting ROMs discussion. We can talk all day without coming up with any thing good but potential conflict.
> fail, again
I dont know about your schedule but my is also packed too ( ask a pre-med, senior Bio student) . And most of peeps here also get a thing call "life" . If I can do it , you can too. Flashing a Rom is not rocket science that would take a life time to do.
How about this, consider flashing your piece of device a relaxing activity for your break . I would be less pain and more joy. If you dont find flashing , trying and using Rom fun , why bother asking here.
p/s for the amount of time finish 2 posts , you could have already flashed a cool Rom lol.
I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I'm afraid the only way to work out the best ROM for you is to test them all. If a ROM is unstable, you'll be able to tell pretty quickly from scanning the thread and what is one man's "useful applications" is another man's "bloatware".
The best analogy I've seen is with cars - to some people the perfect car is a sports car, to others it's a people-carrier, everyone's needs and uses are different. Also, as most of the ROMs are built on the same two or three OS builds, you're comparing the cars with virtually identical engines, so differences will be minor*.
My suggestion is make a list of what you use on your phone, then decide if you want a fast ROM (in which case flash a lite ROM and add the bits you want via cabs) or an easy ROM (in which case flash a ROM that's got the most of the things on your list).
You will never get everyone to agree on the "best" ROM simply because there isn't one that is head and shoulders above the others*, just optimised by and for different chefs.
*No offence intended to the great chefs on this forum! I know how much work you must put into your ROMs and I'm not trying to belittle that, just get the point across.
Also, it doesn't hurt to take the little bit of time that is required to make an SDConfig.txt file for the User Customization that most of the ROMs utilize now. That in and of itself is a huge timesaver. Take advantage of that, and someone else also posted PIM Backup, which can also help aid in moving from one ROM to another.
Use one ROM for a week, see how you like it then move on if you want to. That's more or less what I've done. And I've found what I've liked.
JUst another case of someone wanting to be fed.
Was it Karhu who would do benchmarks of all the ROM's in the Hermes forum? Talk about intensive... but again, strictly numbers, meant as an informative comparison of different things.
I think I got your thoughts...
I wanna a ROM table for comparisons... I can say its very difficult to make
1) ROMs change every day... its a rough job to keep it update
2) ROMs are like taste. You like a XYZ ROM because its faster but a friend may like a BCD ROM because it runs that app faster.
3) There ia a lot of apps within those ROMs that make they different. Comparing works if all ROMs carried the same stuff.
4) There are no tops ROM... there are populars ROM
I'm looking to flash my kaiser too but I allways got confused too with different cooked ROMs.
I suggest you to read all of your interest, ask them for any detailed spec. Install the HardSPL for Godsake and try it.
I noticed that this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437576) was closed recently and to be honest I didn't think it was entirely fair.
Yes, it's true that we should all read the guidance, and yes, it's also true that individual preferences will determine which might be the 'best' ROM.
However, there are 2 reasons why I think that closing the thread was unfair.
First of all, there is too much information, and a lot of it is simply too technical. I want to update my 6.0 ROM because I am using one of sleuth's old ROMs from January. I'm not sure whether to go for a 6.0 or 6.1 ROM. I haven't seen any post which summarises what the strengths and weaknesses are. My understanding is that the benefits of improved usability and battery life are offset by greater instability and slower response, one of the big drawbacks of WM6. So for me, I want usbility, stability, speed, speed and more speed. I don't want to wait a while after pressing a button and I don't want to have to use the stylus. What is the point of having all this cool hardware if it's painfully slow and awkward to use?
For me this is more important than free RAM, video dialling and YouTube. I have no idea which are the fastest ROMs, or whether a WM6.1 ROM can be as fast as a WM6.0 ROM. Also, how bad is the instability? Does this mean crashes every day, couple of days, every week?
There is a lot of mention of Hyperdragon and Manila but I have no idea what this is. Actually I think that Manila is some form of accelerated 2d driver. But what is 'a 2d driver' and how does it differ from 'a 3d driver'?
You can get lots of detailed technical information, but the more basic issues don't seem to be documented. There are so many ROMs, how is a newbie supposed to choose? Flashing the phone and reinstalling/reconfiguring everything is not an instant process and it can take quite a while to get your phone configured just right. Even if you read all the detail, I suspect that newbies will still be somewhat in the dark. Most of us don't have time to try out 3 or 4 ROMs before we settle on the right one.
Finally, the original poster specified (some of) his particular preferences or selection criteria if you like. It should have been possible for people to make recommendations based on this. If some think the question is a bit lame, they will say so. More enlightened users might post links to some information that is genuinely useful, instead of posting something like. "Search the forum, the information is there". Yup, sure, but the phone will probably be obsolete before you find it. Leaving the thread open will allow the debate.
I understand how you might not want lots of posts about the same thing, but if that is the case, then it indicates that the information is not as accessible as it could be. I think it would be useful if for each ROM posted, the chefs could summarise the main points and benefits. For example is the OS 6.0 or 6.1, how fast it is compared the standard. Is there a benchmarking tool? What are the unique benefits? What are the known issues? Some ROMs posted have really excellent documentation, some not, but it doesn't give me any basis for comparison in relation to the things that are important to me - and others I suspect.
This kind of debate is interesting and relevant to me and I suspect some other too.
So if anyone would care to comment on their views on ROM choices, particularly in relation to speed and stability, I would be really grateful.
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This kind of debate is interesting and relevant to me and I suspect some other too.
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That would be me.
So if anyone would care to comment on their views on ROM choices, particularly in relation to speed and stability, I would be really grateful.
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... And Battery life please
im not trying to come down on you but i think your missing the whole point of this site. lets go with battery life for a second. if you had read (and this isnt that technical) the battery does have some to do with the rom but more to do with the radio and what you use the phone for. speed is also dependent on what programs your running. the problem is like has been stated before this site is about not being a spoon fed prossess and trying each rom yourself. if you want to compare them the do just that..let us know what you think bu post in the correct rom. not realy all that difficult
Checkout Windows Mobile 6.0 vs Windows Mobile 6.1 thread
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So if anyone would care to comment on their views on ROM choices, particularly in relation to speed and stability, I would be really grateful.
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I've already commented on my ROM choice over at the Windows Mobile 6.0 vs Windows Mobile 6.1 thread here (only one day old since the last post). I see you posted in it too.
To summarise, for me the HTC official WM 6.0 ROM is miles ahead of their latest WWE WM 6.1 version in terms of general reliability, speed of GPS functioning and reception strength and even simplicity (including WMP program related files not being dumped into my microSD cards music folder). As for customised ROMs, there are posts about that in the same thread.
The site is meant to be how it is. If you never read and do the research yourself you will never figure out how to do this on your own. Yeah, it may be hard to start, I think my first flash took several hours, reading and re-reading the directions, but now I can flash + get all my apps and settings right in less than a half hour. And about how fast the ROMs are, there is really no way to judge that, because they are all updated very frequently and most people re-flash, new bugs show up, things slow down, things speed up, it would just be too hard to keep track of it all in one spot, and it is alot easier to just read. You really need to use a ROM for a few days to get a feel for it, and you can use something like PIM backup so you won't actually lose anything between flashes. Battery life can't be judged good either, because it seems that radios perform differently in different areas, so everyone is always searching for that perfect radio, which is ever-elusive, some get a GPS fix in 10 seconds, but eat 30% of the battery doing it. Some take 3 minutes but you can talk for 324 hours before the battery dies (exaggerations) There are just too many options and too many combinations of radio/ROM/SPL/location that it would be some form of retarded to track it all, and on top of that, all of these people here do this on there own time and dime. Sure there are donations, but no one can pay the rent with the donations received here, why ask them to take more of their time to test and keep detailed statistics (BTW, just because they cooked a ROM dosent mean they magically know if you will like it or not). Last thing, do you buy pants based on online reviews? No? Thats because your ass is different from mine, my ROM might not tickle your fancy, just like when you try on some pants that don't work or fit, what do you do with a ROM? Try a different one. Not meaning to bust your balls, but this is not a simple process, and you've got to do some reading. Yeah, it sucks, but so does not being able to take a pill and instantly know calculus.
Actually, this sort of response is exactly what I was hoping to get.
Sure, different people have different preferences, and posting opinions and justifying their choices is something us novices can learn from. It gives us a starting point to research the ROMs which look most promising.
Regarding the battery life and radio thing - I know, but the thread on V6.0 vs v6.1 specifically mentioned different battery life. I'm sure most of you guys are using suitable radios, I mean you aren't going to choose one for crappy performance are you? So this indicates that the OS version (or the radios available for them) have different performance.
I've already done a lot of reading, but the sad fact is, I still don't have the answers to some basic questions. I do believe (from what I have read here) that a WM6.0 ROM will be faster and more stable than a V6.1 ROM, but I don't know to what extent. Is the difference noticeable? Do the latest Hyperdragon and Manila ROMs make the kaiser the zippy usable phone we wanted when we chose it?
So, even if people just post what ROMs they currently use, why they chose them, how they compare with others they may have used, and give us the benefit of their views and expertise, I think some of us could learn a huge amount.
So, I'm really not trying to be a whiny pain in the butt, just learn a lot more to help me with research.
I actually have an idea, if the MODs would let it fly and possibly sticky it: A comprehensive, detailed ROM review thread. I could make a post for each ROM a user submits a review to me for, and then take the ones that actually have decent content and recommendations and aren't like "Yeah I really enjoy this rom, great rom" and edit the posts accordingly, or have one giant post, or perhaps a wiki page if one doesn't already exist for that purpose.
I'm not much on programming or that great with technical skills to cook, but an up to date review thread could definitely be my way of being able to give back to the community.
i guess you didnt search first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409867&highlight=rom+comparison
yeah, figured someone probably got the idea before now. I've never seen that tick through the threads though, guess that's why. When he starts updating again the mods oughta sticky it. My bad on an unoriginal idea.
For starters, if you have an issue with a MOD closing a thread, please PM them. Do not call them out in public.
Second: The previously mentioned thread was closed because there are rules against "best ROM threads" because as Jimmy said, ROMs are very subjective, and there is no definitive answer to suit everyone.
Third: This thread is now being closed as well. As it has already been said, you need to do your research on the different ROMs available. It only takes a few minutes to read up on any given ROM because the chef usually updates one of the first few posts with reported issues and their fixes.
If you require any further clarification, please refer to the announcement at the top of the Kaiser forums.
Hi All,
Has anyone tried out all the major vendors still around?
I don't want to fork out for all of them...
About to try the package that comes with the CF IR booster called 'ultramote'.
However I believe there's others which are prolly better...
If I upgrade to the latest rom (6.5.x?) will they still work?
I also have something "roughly" like this visualised... (see attached .txt)
I have an old Axim X50v which android is being ported to atm...
But progress is slow & ultimately limited, so I may have to find a better supported device soon.
Any thoughts/ideas/advice greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Jed
Come on... Any thoughts on this anyone?
I'd be really interested in hearing opinions!
Cheers
UR title sucks. What's UR? User remote, or something like that? I don't really understand the first post, and am not in the mood to download the text file. I may not be alone.
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UR title sucks. What's UR? User remote, or something like that? I don't really understand the first post, and am not in the mood to download the text file. I may not be alone.
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Lol, what the hell is this I'm baffled as too what the hell this thread is about
I'm glad I'm not alone, lol.
Being senior members, are one of you able to change the title to:
Best Window Mobile Universal Remote software today?
And now that you better understand what I was laying out...
Any thoughts/opinions?
Thanks
Guys, can anyone help me out here?
All the best,
Jed
Ohh i get it you want a remote for pda. Gotcha ... IR is not included with HTC devices after the titan II.
Um, no...
If you look at my "rough" diagram (attached) ...
I'm hoping to devise a device that acts a central controller for consumer electronics & home automation.
So far the most promising solution I've found is this...
http://www.openremote.org/display/orb/Boss+Overview
You don't have to use their reference hardware but something low power/profile like it would be ideal.
I was thinking of integrating the entire thing into my existing HTPC/PVR but I'm not sure yet, it might be best to have dedicated machine.
To run this software it's critical one has JRE + Apache Tomcat installed/configured properly.
I'd in turn probably run this software on top of Ubuntu or LinuxMCE.
This controller would be able to send/receive via;
Internet, Wifi, Ethernet, IR, X10, some proprietary RF, & numerous other HA/CE related protocols.
A critical part of this system is a hand-held (x50v) that interfaces nicely with the controller.
This hand-held would ideally also have IR integrated, but it's not imperative as Wifi would be used mostly.
However...
In the short term I want to use my hand-held (x50v) as the 'central controller' for various devices using its IR.
Hence the basis for my original post....
I'm interested in other peoples ideas, have you tried something similar?
Have you played with a platform that's better (in your opinion) than openremote?
Or perhaps you know of a better hware/sware combo for the hand-held?
Cheers,
Jed
Well I've done some investigations and Linux/android support is just too limited and prolly will remain that way to bother with Linux on the x50v.
So it'll have to be x50v + WM + app <---> HA controller device <---> end devices
Longer term I'll have to get something like the nokia n900 (maemo based) or at least something with good potential for Linux support.
So it'd be cool to get a few more thoughts on this from people doing similar stuff.
I realise that's probably not a large cross-section of people though, LOL
Jus gunna let this thread rest soon, delete from my readerlist, & move on.
Before that, in depth thoughts from interested parties would be appreciated.
ah frack yas