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Himilaya vs Alpine

SO, I already have a wallaby, and love it. But it does fall short on several needs/wants that I have. I'm confused on which unit is which, and what thier differences are, so I would like to poll anyone that will comment....
I want BT.... phone BT, but networking and a BT stereo headset would be nice
WiFi
The best camera. Which one has the best picture..... I'd like to take decent enough pictures that I could print 5X7's and they would look respectable.
Ability to unlock, I'm using Tmo USA
And I want the ability to cook or modify the ROM/Ext ROM. I love the fact that I can upgrade to whichever ROM I want, with whichever programs I'd like, that survives a hard reset.
I like the fact that the Blueangel has more buttons on the face (for gaming and custom apps) and the slide keyboard is nice, but I think an external clipon/plugin type would be fine.
SO, who knows what????? I'm confused with which unit is codenamed what. Also, I use phonescoop.com to do my research on exactly which unit is which, and they don't list all the variants. I think it would be better if someone would post a thread or make a wiki page on the features and benafits of each unit, as well as the codename. If someone would provide me with the info, I'll make a wiki page(s) with all of them.
Thanks in advance!

SO.... I feel like an ASS.
After looking around for a moment, I see that some of us have participated in the wiki a little further than the last time I looked.... and I found some answers. My only questions are...
is there anything that you can do to a Himilaya that you can't do to an Alpine?
And is the camera actually better, or is it just software enhancements? I've read info that says better hardware and/or software......
TIA!

Well, in time you can do the excact same thing to them both, i'm thinking about installing what ever ROM you want when a tool for doing so is finished.
The camera is better and it aint just software. 1.3 MegaPx like the Magician.
Try google

Bluetooth Security and Hacking

Hi folks;
I haven't had a Windows Mobile device in years - last time I had one it was still CE, so I have a bit of a learning curve to climb. I'm looking forward to it though; my HTC Trinity arrives in two days and I'm excited.
One thing I'm really curious about is Bluetooth security. I've read a fair bit recently about a lot of mobile phones / basic smartphones and how they severly lack any sort of bluetooth security, meaning other people can pair to your device without your knowledge to send you messages, copy files to/from the device via OBEX, that sort of thing.
I am wondering what sort of security I can expect out of a WM5 device for Bluetooth (and to some extent Wi-Fi as well). Can people pair with me without my knowledge?
Will my A2DP connection to my new Moto HT820's be easily eavesdropped? It probably uses that default 0000 key like most headsets do.
Also, what sort of tools are available to have a bit of fun with other people's Bluetooth phones? Are there tools for WinMo to send people SMS messages via BT, or listen to headsets, that sort of thing?
If that's against the rules around here, fair enough, don't post anything that would get us in trouble.
Admittedly, it's sort of a lame script-kiddie thing to do, but I think I'd get a kick out of it and I wouldn't do anything to harm someone's device - it would just be a fun learning experience to mess around with people's phones remotely.
It's also good to raise awareness of the relative insecurity of a lot of these personal-area networking devices.

A bump in case anyone has any ideas today.

mikesol said:
what sort of tools are available to have a bit of fun with other people's Bluetooth phones?
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I use btCrawler:
http://www.silentservices.de/btCrawler.html
You need to create this registry key if you want to use Bluesnarf:
\HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Mode\"ISC"=1 (DWORD)

I saw this thread over on Modaco yesterday http://www.modaco.com/The-Real-Bluejack-for-Pocket-PC-t250841.html
$6 was cheap enough, and it's very good.

Noob thread alert
omg how nooby is this post?
ok heres a very simple concept
bluetooth off = no access
bluetooth on = available access, however.
most phones these days (even if they support obex object push) have other securitys in place to stop these sorts of attacks.
im really sick of wana be "hackers" carrying on about bluetooth hacking, gawd go learn odbc or something usefull.
even if you could get into someones phone with your elite hacking skills what would you honestly get out of it, "wow look at me i can msg some complete stranger from someones phone book...."
sorry but as a programmer it really grinds my gears seeing noobs post about things they dont understand.

im sure people feel the same about you,when you approach a subject you not an expert or have relevanby experiance
people ask cos they dont know,if you dont like that simply close the page

noobs post about things they dont understand
that why they ask mate,we are all noobs in some field relax

the best way to secure your device while BT is on is to make sure its not discoverable.. Nothing is 100% (except leaving BT off completely)
Also Smurf is a cool little program, but it will only bluejack.. but certainly makes for some fun and odd expressions from strangers

st3v3 said:
sorry but as a programmer it really grinds my gears seeing noobs post about things they dont understand.
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A big percentage of posts in this forum are from noobs who post about things they don't understand, and as a community we try to be helpful between us whenever it's possible... and nobody told you to shut up when you posted about things you don't understand.

pof said:
A big percentage of posts in this forum are from noobs who post about things they don't understand, and as a community we try to be helpful between us whenever it's possible... and nobody told you to shut up when you posted about things you don't understand.
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err well actually no they didnt, maybe if you learnt to read it would be a good start!

st3v3 said:
omg how nooby is this post?
ok heres a very simple concept
bluetooth off = no access
bluetooth on = available access, however.
most phones these days (even if they support obex object push) have other securitys in place to stop these sorts of attacks.
im really sick of wana be "hackers" carrying on about bluetooth hacking, gawd go learn odbc or something usefull.
even if you could get into someones phone with your elite hacking skills what would you honestly get out of it, "wow look at me i can msg some complete stranger from someones phone book...."
sorry but as a programmer it really grinds my gears seeing noobs post about things they dont understand.
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Chill out dude, everyone is n00b in some area... In your case it should be in the area of being modest...
The xda community is here to help and offer solutions...

Alright, I would hardly consider myself a "noob" simply because I've only been posting here for a week or so. Perhaps once you learn to capitalize letters and spell words, your flames will become more effective.
The question was aimed at determining the level of security present in WM5 devices, and to see if there were any little easy fun programs to send messages or files, that sort of thing. I don't want to "hack" people to any serious extent, or I would fire up my Debian laptop and listen in to the communications that way.
Well, enough out of me. I'll let you get back to wanking it to pictures of Michael Moore.

everyone sit back and relax, have a drink, or smoke, or whatever you do to relax.. If the flames continue then i am going to lock this thread.. lets stay on the topic please. Now group hug, everyone kiss and make up
Just realize that not everyone knows everything about anything.. some people are noobs in some aspect, flaming isnt going to help anyone and thats what this community is about. If you dont want to be a part of that then you know where the exit button is at

Sorry, I probably went a little far on the defensive, but someone who can't even spell or type a complete sentence doesn't have much right calling someone he doesn't know a "noob".
I've bought that Bluejacker program, and it looks to be a pretty impressive tool. Most useful will be the ability to save OBEX transfers directly to my storage card - a few of my friends have overglorified HDD-based media players and I think they may have Bluetooth, so it should be interesting to try transferring movies around.

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Sorry, I probably went a little far on the defensive, but someone who can't even spell or type a complete sentence doesn't have much right calling someone he doesn't know a "noob".
I've bought that Bluejacker program, and it looks to be a pretty impressive tool. Most useful will be the ability to save OBEX transfers directly to my storage card - a few of my friends have overglorified HDD-based media players and I think they may have Bluetooth, so it should be interesting to try transferring movies around.
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thank you for coming back to the topic... what was the bluejacker that you bought?

AlanJC said:
I saw this thread over on Modaco yesterday http://www.modaco.com/The-Real-Bluejack-for-Pocket-PC-t250841.html
$6 was cheap enough, and it's very good.
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That's the one I bought. It needs a few bugfixes (mostly visual) but it made it a lot easier to get all my ringtones and whatnot from my old Sony Ericsson T610.

mikesol said:
That's the one I bought. It needs a few bugfixes (mostly visual) but it made it a lot easier to get all my ringtones and whatnot from my old Sony Ericsson T610.
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looks like i will have to check it from home.. [email protected] company firewalls

I've been using it a couple of days now. It's the best Bluetooth utility I have seen on the PPC.
It's a shame it's locked to my Uni though because sometimes I take the Wizard out as it's so much smaller, and I would have liked to use it on that on those odd days.
EDIT: 0vZ just contacted me on that MoDaCo thread to say a 2nd license is only $3 USD. Peanuts to pay for such a functional product, so I'll do that.

Oh and just a note to st3v3, no, this app isn't really *hacking*, but people's stupidity means you can probably quite easily download every text message on their phone.
Changing your BT name to "incoming message" or something and accessing a phone might bring up a message like "incoming message is trying to access your phone. Allow, yes or no"
Lots of people send files and send silly messages by BT now, most non-technical people would simply click yes, giving you OBEX, or AT access to their phone.
I didn't buy this app for this purpose, but I have just discovered how easy it is, I might have a little play.

yeah and its the same as on the old nokias if you have your name as blank (forget how to do that there was a way) any of the old nokias (ngage i know it works) would lock up becuase it wouldnt display the name.
still not what I would call hacking and being able to read someone’s text messages (which would require someone’s bt to be left on and that they had the right type of phone)
All in all its still a pipe dream of misconstrued wana be 15 year olds with nothing better to do than sit around telling their friends what elite hackers they are.

XDA Exec/WM6 Help for a N00b

Hi there.
I know there's probably nothing irritates you guys more than a n00b asking for assistance in doing something techie, but have pity...
I'm not a total tech divvy, I have no problem with pooters, but I've never had the reason to dissect code, or get up with the workings of the PDA or mobile phone, so I'm really clueless, here.
I have some general wonderments...
as well as requests for advice and assistance.
I have an O2 XDA Exec which I love, and haven't got the money to upgrade at present, and so, would like to milk as much performance out of it as possible.
I work in a business where contacts, bookings and diary dates are essential, as is communication via SMS and telephone (and one day, if it becomes cheap enough, push email would be nice). This device is running 24/7, keeping me informed, running my business, and its wonderful, such a problem when it 'goes down.' It has been running nearly flawlessly for almost 18 months, and much as I'd love to upgrade to a TyTn 2 when my contract expires, I also want to leave options open for a 3G and application-friendly iPhone, or indeed something better from HTC.
I have a few niggles to address.
First, the alarms, of which there are many required, are completely fubar unless I have AlarmToday installed. Fair enough. I understand that this is a 'Windows Mobile' issue, and I can live with using a small app to fix the problem. Are there any better solutions. I also have two 'tweaks' type apps installed, which claim to fix the issues that cause non-sounding alarms on WM PDA phones.
Second, I need a good one-glance Today screen, professional looking, and a comprehensive listing of diary dates and (possibly) text messages etc. But all the ones I seem to use appear to slow my XDA to a crawl.
Third, I need to use a good PIM, and chose Pocket Informant 2007, which is a great app, but now I'm struggling because my XDA seems to be grinding to a halt.
I noticed that when the battery hits about 57% it starts to crap out, freeze up, stop running apps etc. I replaced the battery with a brand new one, and it still does it. Also, the system is sometimes so slow, or the phone rings and the side buttons (pickup and hang up) don't do a damn thing...
A friend recommended that many bugs and issues of speed were resolved in WM6, so, of course, I'm looking for a good WM6 build to replace my standard (latest) ROM and OS from O2 on the XDA exec... essentially I only need the base featureset that came as standard, as long as my apps will still work. I have standard memory in the exec and 512 meg SD card.
Can someone please be bold and recommend the virtues of two or three WM6 builds for utmost reliability and functionality bearing in mind what I've said about the use and needs of the phone, and perhaps lead me to the right place, and the right procedures. I'm thinking that if a PDA phone is anything like a pooter, it might need a backup to hard disk, then a good clear out and a reinstall to try to break the backlog of clogging or something, and any tips on doing this/better apps/faster today screens would be really, really appreciated... I need input on this, because the last thing I can afford to do is brick the XDA or kick its usefulness into touch for significant periods.
I appreciate someone's help!
Many thanks,
Steve

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Cooked_ROMs

Hi, and thanks for that, but I had seen that page before, and though I'm sure it sounds completely n00b to you, all I see are some names, which mean nothing to me, and some numbers, which mean nothing to me, and some hints toward notes explaining what I do with pieces of software that I don't know anything about and don't understand.
I appreciate that you guys are techie enough to write this stuff, but surely the purpose of you writing it is to provide it as a solution for people who aren't techie enough to write it, otherwise Microsoft win out over independent developers by making a product that is user friendly and self explanatory, rather than impossibly intricate and mysterious...
Still holding out for a more explanatory response, if someone would be so kind.

TheTen said:
Hi, and thanks for that, but I had seen that page before, and though I'm sure it sounds completely n00b to you, all I see are some names, which mean nothing to me, and some numbers, which mean nothing to me, and some hints toward notes explaining what I do with pieces of software that I don't know anything about and don't understand.
I appreciate that you guys are techie enough to write this stuff, but surely the purpose of you writing it is to provide it as a solution for people who aren't techie enough to write it, otherwise Microsoft win out over independent developers by making a product that is user friendly and self explanatory, rather than impossibly intricate and mysterious...
Still holding out for a more explanatory response, if someone would be so kind.
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Just download one of the roms, put your device into bootloader mode (backlight button + Power button + soft reset), and run the upgrade exe file from your comp. Simple!
Thats all you need to know for flashing your uni. When you're in bootloader mode, check the version number in the bottom. If its 1.xx you have a G3 based uni, else its a G4 uni (ver 2.xx). Some roms are compatible only with G3 based devices....so check what you're about to flash.
I'd recommend Ranju's latest rom (v6) as it is really stable and has all the right applications and configuration in it.
All the best to ya!
San

OK, thanks. Will give that a try.

[Q] windows mobile as tablet drawing

hy all!!
I was wondering if anyone here knew of a program that allows you to turn your Pocket PC into a drawing tablet which interfaces with Photoshop or other drawing programs on your desktop PC. Thanks

What do you mean by "interfaces"? There are several programs which allow freestyle drawing and can be saved as a jpg/bitmap etc. All of these can be imported to photoshop. I personally use MiTo Team Paint. You might also check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678556 . That may be more what you were looking for. There was or is a beta of photoshop mobile available from adobe also. Search google for it.

I don't know any, but it's certainly possible to write. You wouldn't get the "pressure" part of the tablet (unless you're phone registers pressure too?).
Because of the comparative sizes of screens though, you might find it hard to select what you want on your PC.
I was going to write an app for my PDA a few years ago to do exactly this (basically set the mouse X,Y to the stylus position, and "click" buttons), however, I ended up just buying a Medion (Aldi's electronics brand) tablet. It cost about £25, A4 size and works perfectly for my purposes.

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I don't know any, but it's certainly possible to write. You wouldn't get the "pressure" part of the tablet (unless you're phone registers pressure too?).
Because of the comparative sizes of screens though, you might find it hard to select what you want on your PC.
I was going to write an app for my PDA a few years ago to do exactly this (basically set the mouse X,Y to the stylus position, and "click" buttons), however, I ended up just buying a Medion (Aldi's electronics brand) tablet. It cost about £25, A4 size and works perfectly for my purposes.
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Ahh, that may be what the op is talking about. There is a program that lets you use your ppc as a touchpad for pc. I guess that might be how you can "write" directly onto the pc using your ppc... or was there some other program you had in mind to do that?
I'm curios now, as I hadn't considered this possibility before.

Moved as not software release.

PPC Tablet 4.0
Found something that claims to do what I understand the OP was wanting. There is a free trial available, so that will give the opportunity to text compatability with WM 6.X. Note that there is a specific installation guide for WM 6. Also, it is VGA, so vga fix may be required if WVGA resolution is on the phone... or perhaps it will just run at part-screen resolution.
http://www.aacompserv.com/AACompWeb/Modules/PPCTablet/WhatIsIt.aspx

I'm interested in a wacom–like tablet solution for my Windows Mobile 6.5 tele, as well. It'd be great to be able to use my resistive touch screen as a pressure-sensitive tablet in Photoshop. Anyone know of any solutions? 'Cause the hope of such an app is the only reason that I've kept my Rhodium.
UPDATE: I've started a thread for an app request here, so let's generate a buzz to stimulate the dev community.

kain144000 said:
I'm interested in a wacom–like tablet solution for my Windows Mobile 6.5 tele, as well. It'd be great to be able to use my resistive touch screen as a pressure-sensitive tablet in Photoshop. Anyone know of any solutions? 'Cause the hope of such an app is the only reason that I've kept my Rhodium.
UPDATE: I've started a thread for an app request here, so let's generate a buzz to stimulate the dev community.
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Just thought I would point out the the AandA company I linked in the post above offers to make custom software, so it could be worth contacting them to check on the price for adding pressure sensitivity to the app that I linked. Could potentially take collections from other interested members to get it paid for and provided in their next version...

cbeck said:
.. AandA ... offers to make custom software ...
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Thanks, I'll look into it. Glad I'd actually come back to this thread, 'cause my posts've been gettin' so little love lately, that I was just all 'round apathetic. But, friend, you've inspired me‼

kain144000 said:
Thanks, I'll look into it. Glad I'd actually come back to this thread, 'cause my posts've been gettin' so little love lately, that I was just all 'round apathetic. But, friend, you've inspired me‼
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Glad I could be of some little value around here.
Pencil Box Deluxe is a step towards getting pressure sensitivity also... you can't actually get different pressure responses, but you can select different pressure settings... too bad it doesn't interface with the PC. Best of luck.

PadKite™ : The first multitouch mobile mouse.

Hi xda-developers,
We are about to launch PadKite in the Android market and we are currently collecting feedback from real users. Beta version now available for download at padkite web-page. As a new user we are not allowed to post links, please let us know your feedback on the application. You can also subscribe to our Beta Program. We are eager to hear your opinion.
PadKite is also an excellent app for tablets so we are also looking for people to test it on their tablets. Whether your multitouch device is a phone or tablet. Your feedback is very important to us. For any questions, please reply to this post or contact us at PadKite Contact us.
More about PadKite™: PadKite™ is the first multi-touch mobile mouse created to manage the tiny content on our cellphone screens. Never fumble or miss a target again. Breeze through favorite websites in a flash with customizable multitouch gestures. Post media and text to Facebook, Twitter, and blogs, all at the swoop of a fingertip.

Wow! This looks like an awesome tool!
There's only Éclair and Froyo versions available though, I'm running custom Gingerbread on my N1.
I tried running the Froyo version on my N1 anyway, but it Force Closes as soon as trying to open the app.
Any ETA on a Gingerbread version? I'm quite eager to try your product!

They said a GB compatible copy will be along soon.

I really wanted to try it but it force closes on me.
Always wanted to tryout multi-touch...
nice stealth edit trololol...

Sounds interesting, I'll check it out.
Link: http://padkite.com/

Hmm i dont trust this app i just installed and accept the agreement then nothing and why so big for a simple mouse app? 14mb
Sent from my ZTE-BLADE using Tapatalk

ngagephone said:
Hmm i dont trust this app i just installed and accept the agreement then nothing and why so big for a simple mouse app? 14mb
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They included the complete libwebcore.so in there effectively including a complete web browser in their so called mouse driver. What up with that?

Just sitting and clapping my hands :]
looks wonderfulll .. Did anyone try it already ? does it seem safe and real?
btw: So I've understood that it is a browser like dolphin and others. .. does it include Flash? (btw does it have hebrew as other browsers?)

Hi xda-developers,
Hope you are enjoying flying the web with PadKite, the first multitouch mobile mouse.
Yes, it is a web browser. It includes extended Webkit libraries that makes it heavier. Hopefully these will be able to be submitted into the WebKit build on the near future. The application does not include Flash for the moment and does not run on top of the OS or other applications. As a new concept we are starting small running as a stand alone browser aiming to grow bigger. We are braking the mold on multi-touch interaction and that has to be gradually. As you might have notized it has a lot of potential.
Currently we are making adjustments in order to run in all versions. This requires a lot of effort however it will allow PadKite to run in almost all devices. If you want to run on a Gingerbread version, let us know via our contact form and it will be delivered shortly.
Some users have experienced problems with Android versions of FRG83D and FRG83. We are currently looking into this and we will come up with a solution shortly. If you have problems, running PadKite on your Froyo, please contact us via our contact form too or join our beta program. We need as much information as possible from our users (especially your Logcat). Also, take part in our beta program and you will be the first to get updated on new versions.
Please follow PadKite on Twitter and get up-to-date info on new builds at padkite account.
Thanks for helping us make PadKite even better!
Cheers,
Jose Vigil
RoamTouch CEO

looks great, I'm looking forward to trying it when its available for Gingerbread.. also it would be great to get the adobe flash integration working.. But looks like a great concept, original and useful.

Bumping this, as it is a clear winner as a productivity tool, but so few people seem to have heard about it. I'm a huge fan, and that's based on only having seen the videos, as well as it partially working on a mate's Xperia X8 (the X8 lacks multi-touch, so is unable to take advantage of some of the more powerful features, such as text-selection via second finger-rotation, although as a pointer it works perfectly)!
Hoping they get back to me soon with an offer into the Beta program, as I'm dying to get this app! Also hoping they take it further, and fast, so that it becomes an integral Android feature, rather than just a browser tool.
This is a game-changer, people, so get on board and bring your family and friends!

ashiningexample said:
Bumping this, as it is a clear winner as a productivity tool, but so few people seem to have heard about it. I'm a huge fan, and that's based on only having seen the videos, as well as it partially working on a mate's Xperia X8 (the X8 lacks multi-touch, so is unable to take advantage of some of the more powerful features, such as text-selection via second finger-rotation, although as a pointer it works perfectly)!
Hoping they get back to me soon with an offer into the Beta program, as I'm dying to get this app! Also hoping they take it further, and fast, so that it becomes an integral Android feature, rather than just a browser tool.
This is a game-changer, people, so get on board and bring your family and friends!
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Don't hold your breath on this one buddy. I gave up. I recieved 6 APK's from the dev...not one of the worked. FC every time. I was working on it with him for quite a time, and it never worked. Seems to only work on one or two phones.

Won't be holding my breath, but certainly won't be abandoning hope! If those who have been able to get it working could post details of which model phones they have, as well as the models that haven't worked, plus current Android version, the devs might be able to narrow the issue down. Not sure if I'm able to start a new thread, being a noob and all, so if people could list the following in this thread it would go a long way towards getting us what we want:
Phone model
Android version (stock or rooted)
Whether it worked or not, and if not, at what stage it crashed, plus any further comments.

ashiningexample said:
Won't be holding my breath, but certainly won't be abandoning hope! If those who have been able to get it working could post details of which model phones they have, as well as the models that haven't worked, plus current Android version, the devs might be able to narrow the issue down. Not sure if I'm able to start a new thread, being a noob and all, so if people could list the following in this thread it would go a long way towards getting us what we want:
Phone model
Android version (stock or rooted)
Whether it worked or not, and if not, at what stage it crashed, plus any further comments.
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Send the dev any info you like...it didn't help. I was in contact with him for a few weeks. I don't 'abandon hope' unless it's time to abandon it. After emailing back and forth for a few weeks, then not hearing back from the dev for the last 3 months, I would say it's abandonment time.

You do what you want, and I'll do what I want, and never the twain shall meet.

ashiningexample said:
You do what you want, and I'll do what I want, and never the twain shall meet.
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Well thank you SO much for your diplomacy. You must be new here. I was just sharing my findings. Did you even notice the last post before you necro'd this crappy app...was from Feb??? There is a reason for that.
Good luck with getting things figured out around here.

Crappy app, perhaps, but only in terms of its failing to work for most who've tried it thus far. The idea itself is a brilliant one, I believe!

ashiningexample said:
Crappy app, perhaps, but only in terms of its failing to work for most who've tried it thus far. The idea itself is a brilliant one, I believe!
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95% of brilliance is implementation.
I can think of a bazillion good app ideas...but making them actually work is where the real skill is. I am upset with padkite because they seem to have spent all this time on making a website and sharing the idea...then they spent 2 minutes actually BUILDING the app...and it's garbage.

This looks fantastic. I downloaded and try to join beta program, to improve your software.
And 14mb is nothing, nowdays phones have 1gb or so of ROM space. Or move it to SD card.

meanm50 said:
95% of brilliance is implementation.
I can think of a bazillion good app ideas...but making them actually work is where the real skill is. I am upset with padkite because they seem to have spent all this time on making a website and sharing the idea...then they spent 2 minutes actually BUILDING the app...and it's garbage.
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Are you suggesting that they faked the videos of padKite working on the Motorola (Droid?) phone? Because unless they did indeed fake the videos, then they had the app working on at least one phone! Obviously more than 2 minutes were spent, and I'm guessing the problem to be overcome is actually a rather minor yet befuddling one.
As stated earlier, I've seen padKite partially working on a mate's Xperia X8, so we aren't talking vaporware, here. Please, Mean Mr Mustard, change your heart and let hope in, and encourage others to do the same, instead of working against what you've already acknowledged is something good enough to upset you by virtue of not working for you.
There must be some out there who've been able to get padKite at least partially working. Chime in, fellows, and let's make this fairy well again!