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Thunderbolt envy

I went to the Verizon store today thinking that I would trade up on my HTC Incredible only to find out that Verizon got rid of the upgrade anytime ability. They said I could get a Thunderbolt, but it would cost me $600.
Oh how nice it would be to have a Thunderbolt. Anyone have any ideas to fight this with Verizon?
Maj

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Adding to the envy I just got mine Saturday... Kernals.. omfg.. I'd missed them so much when I went from D1 to DX.
newalker91 said:
Seeing as promotions are not contractual, there's not really anything you can do. All I can suggest is seeing as the T-bolt is SIM based, see if you can get someone to do an insurance claim on theirs saying they lost it and buy it off of them. They might try to blank out the IMEI but the SIM should counteract that.
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He would have to activate the "lost" phone to even get a SIM card, which wouldn't happen because the IMEI would already be flagged. Since this is Verizon's only 4G device, how would he go about getting a SIM card? The SIM cards are useless once they've been activated on an account and then replaced with a new one, so using the other person's old one isn't an option.
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Actually if he found someone to do the lost phone deal. he could then go buy the cheapest sim-based phone outright,have it set to his account then take the sim card and put it in the t.
But the cheapest one i think is about 200.00 plus any changes it does to the contract (if any) and the at least 90.00 cost for the t's replacement. would end up costing over half the cost of the t and that's only if he gets lucky on the cost of the t

tumbleweed65 said:
Actually if he found someone to do the lost phone deal. he could then go buy the cheapest sim-based phone outright,have it set to his account then take the sim card and put it in the t.
But the cheapest one i think is about 200.00 plus any changes it does to the contract (if any) and the at least 90.00 cost for the t's replacement. would end up costing over half the cost of the t and that's only if he gets lucky on the cost of the t
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How do you then get a 4G SIM? Verizon's only other SIM based devices are all 3G "world phones" that I'm pretty sure only use the SIM cards when not in the US. Verizon's not gonna say "oh, sure, you want a 4G SIM for your Blackberry.. no problem". Unless, of course, he just never wanted to utilize LTE. I don't know enough about Verizon to be certain, but was an AT&T Mobility Resolution Specialist for a while.. and what you're suggesting would definitely not work with AT&T(given the same conditions of them only having 1 device using the new network). However, how much is an outright USB 4G Modem? NVM, that would not include voice plans, and they'd know something was up when he tried to add one to a modem LOL.. seriously, I dunno if this is possible. Even if it was, would possibly just be easier to save for a bit and just buy the phone.
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Actually if he found someone to do the lost phone deal. he could then go buy the cheapest sim-based phone outright,have it set to his account then take the sim card and put it in the t.
But the cheapest one i think is about 200.00 plus any changes it does to the contract (if any) and the at least 90.00 cost for the t's replacement. would end up costing over half the cost of the t and that's only if he gets lucky on the cost of the t
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You are confusing gsm and lte. They arebnot the same. DON'T DO IT! won't get you anywhere + it's insurance fraud.
Could maybe add a line to your acct. Essentially paying $240 over the course of your contract plus $250 for the phone... It's a little cheaper.
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Well, I logged into my Verizon account and saw the following:
You are eligible to upgrade with an additional loyalty discount on 4/27/12 You may upgrade now at full price.
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Hooray. Only another year of this phone!!

Ad a line to ur account assuming ur on a family share plan and don't already have five lines. Ull pay ten extra dollars a month then have to do a device change from one mtn to another.
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stayin100 said:
Ad a line to ur account assuming ur on a family share plan and don't already have five lines. Ull pay ten extra dollars a month then have to do a device change from one mtn to another.
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He'll be getting new phones every year.
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Buy a phone off craigslist or ebay and then sell your Incredible. I got $170 for my Inc with ebay's buy back program. I bought my TB off ebay for $500.

There's a thunderbolt locally on CL for 500.
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Sell that **** man!!
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ddgarcia05 said:
There's a thunderbolt locally on CL for 500.
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You can normally talk people down a bit on CL too. So if you sell your phone for almost $200.. you're really only paying $300 for the phone which isn't bad at all with no contract!

newalker91 said:
Seeing as promotions are not contractual, there's not really anything you can do. All I can suggest is seeing as the T-bolt is SIM based, see if you can get someone to do an insurance claim on theirs saying they lost it and buy it off of them. They might try to blank out the IMEI but the SIM should counteract that.
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I am not an attorney ... but this seems like quite a fraud. You have to ask (and convince) a 'friend' to lie that they lost their phone. Then you have to lie during the activation process. Seems like a heck of a conspiracy for a few hundred dollars. I would NEVER ask a friend to participate in this type of scam.
On the other hand ... I 'lost' my Thunderbolt.

Will it work I bought one from internet?!

Hi guys, how are you doing?
Excuse me for my English
I've HTC Incredible S, I bought it from UK before a year ago.
I'm in US right now and get a simcard from At&T and paid for the Data plan but unfortunately it doesn't work!
the seller told me it should be American phone or from At&T :/
So, If I bought the Samsung Galaxy S II SkyRocket from eBay or Amazon, will it work perfectly and the data plan will work or not?!
(because I've found it from ebay $205)
I hope I can an answer for this question
Amjad

The HTC Incredible S should work with the AT&T sim. Did you take it to a AT&T store? They probably have to adjust your settings for you to use it.
If you get the Skyrocket, make sure its an AT&T version.

my Incredible S work perfect with AT&T but the data plan doesn't work because the seller told me (the phone must be from America or from AT&T) :/
So, because of that I'm asking, If I bought the Galaxy S II Skyrocket AT&T (at&t logo on the phone) from eBay, will the data plan will work or not?!
I want to change my phone because of the Data plan. I need Internet in my phone everywhere I go.

Yes the skyrocket will work on at&t its an at&t phone

I'm sorry I didn't reply to you silver03wrx
So, did you recommend me to buy it from ebay? (Here is the link)
because it's cheaper than the store + in the store I must bay $500 deposit :/
Q: If I bay the phone from the link, How much will I bay monthly?
I hope you understand me
and I hope you can help me

Depends on what phone plan you go with. Most plans for just 1 smart phone will cost around $80 to $100.
It all depends on how many minutes you want and how much internet you want (200mb or 2gb).
Just to let you know, that link you posted requires a contract. So you would likely still need a deposit to get it.
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Yeah, if I bought it I'll bay monthly around $85.
Just to let you know, that link you posted requires a contract. So you would likely still need a deposit to get it.
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Oh no, Is there anyway can I get the phone without a deposit?!
I have $250 (the phone price) but cannot bay for the deposit
any other websites you suggest for me to buy the phone...

Check out www.ebay.com. To get a brand new smart phone like the skyrocket you'll be likely paying at least $400. You may want to think about getting a less expensive phone for your price range.
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On your incredible s all you have to do is input the at&t apn settings manually to pick up data and mms
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gr8hairy1 said:
Check out www.ebay.com. To get a brand new smart phone like the skyrocket you'll be likely paying at least $400. You may want to think about getting a less expensive phone for your price range.
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Actually, I'm starting to keep on my HTC IS until the HTC Ville came ^_^
I'll keep searching...
Thanks
sh4dow1 said:
On your incredible s all you have to do is input the at&t apn settings manually to pick up data and mms
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Really, Can you please help me on this one?
If it works I'll be the happiest guy ever ^_^
I enter Settings>>Wireless & networks>>Mobile networks>>Access Point Names
and found MediaNet as my APNs and under it there is wap.cingular in a very small font
like this
MediaNet
wap.cingualr
I hope you can give me the details so I can create a new APN or edit the MediaNet
Waiting for you post

I found two apn settings for you. Try them and see what happens.
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I tried it and onther one, both didn't work

Then I would take it to the at&t store and let them get it going.
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That's wiered that does settings didn't work normally those work right away on any phone overseas or T-Mobile
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tomorrow I'll go and ask them how to do it
Q: I've see the new Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket in eBay, this is the link
They wrote "Early Termination Fee $325". What does it mean?
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I complete every thing, like chosen New Customer and Individual (24-Month) and I've choose the plan (Nation Talk Individual - 450), DataPro 2GB and Messaging Unlimited
before I checkout, in table there are:
1/ One Time Charges* = $36.00
*One time activation fees applied to your first month's bill only.
Q: Does it mean that I'll pay for this just one time?
Q: when I should pay for it?
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2/Monthly Charges† = $84.99
†These items will be billed by your carrier and do not include all fees, taxes and surcharges.
Q: Does it mean that this is my bill each month?!
When I click Next and wrote my address info, in the last there are:
NOTE: Early Termination Fee of up to $325.00 may apply.
Q: What does it mean?
Q: Will I going to pay or give them the $325.00 or what?
But in the last they ask me for the Social Security and I don't have one! I just have an US ID card.
I hope you can answer the questions, and forgive me if it's long questions
last question: What if someone (American person) give me his/her Social Security number to put it in the website to buy the phone. What will happen?!
Thank you for helping me, and i'm sorry to take your time

1) Early Termination fees apply when you cancel ur plan before it expires. Like if you cancel ur phone line within next 24 months att will charge you fees up to $325.
2) $36 You will pay only one time. You have to pay when you get new plan.
3)$84.99+tax is ur monthly bill.
4)If you use someone's social than you will need to get their info. Their info will be used instead of urs.
a.2mjed.a said:
tomorrow I'll go and ask them how to do it
Q: I've see the new Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket in eBay, this is the link
They wrote "Early Termination Fee $325". What does it mean?
+
I complete every thing, like chosen New Customer and Individual (24-Month) and I've choose the plan (Nation Talk Individual - 450), DataPro 2GB and Messaging Unlimited
before I checkout, in table there are:
1/ One Time Charges* = $36.00
*One time activation fees applied to your first month's bill only.
Q: Does it mean that I'll pay for this just one time?
Q: when I should pay for it?
--
2/Monthly Charges† = $84.99
†These items will be billed by your carrier and do not include all fees, taxes and surcharges.
Q: Does it mean that this is my bill each month?!
When I click Next and wrote my address info, in the last there are:
NOTE: Early Termination Fee of up to $325.00 may apply.
Q: What does it mean?
Q: Will I going to pay or give them the $325.00 or what?
But in the last they ask me for the Social Security and I don't have one! I just have an US ID card.
I hope you can answer the questions, and forgive me if it's long questions
last question: What if someone (American person) give me his/her Social Security number to put it in the website to buy the phone. What will happen?!
Thank you for helping me, and i'm sorry to take your time
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This thread is reserved for unlocked T-mobile V10 on AT&T network

Since it appears the AT&T V10 is bootloader locked. I will not purchase another bootloader locked phone, period! This thread is information on using the T-Mobile V10 on the AT&T Network. Discussion should include LTE bands, apps, signal problems, carrier unlocking methods, etc.
T-Mobile unlocking policy
Key posts in this thread:
Why Band 17 is missing on T-Mobile and AT&T listed LTE bands for V10. Thanks @ubergeek77
Confirmation that band 17 works! Thanks @eazyg
WARNING - Only T-Mobile can unlock your phone. Thanks @ubergeek77
How to purchase a T-Mobile V10 without a plan. Thanks @charlieb620
How to fix battery drain from com.android.phone on AT&T
Will update this thread with other key posts as needed.

http://www.mylgphones.com/lg-v10-lg-h960-with-us-lte-compatibility-passes-fcc.html
This looks interesting. Looks like band 17 is included.
Note as information is confirmed, I will change the OP.
Thanks.

The other thread mentioned T-Mobile chat said a T-Mobile account holder could check in their My T-Mobile page. I looked, "Technical specifications not available for this device."
Also, the box does not list any band support.
Also, I can't test another SIM really since I don't have SIM unlock (you can request it from T-Mobile if your device is paid off or you're going overseas).

I guess the only real way to find out is to actually buy the phone, try it for ourselves, and do a speed test. I'll volunteer, but since I called T-Mobile and they refuse to sell the phone without a plan, I have to wait for Best Buy to start selling the phone. Shouldn't be long, as I called them and was told to check back on Monday. Plus, since the terms for LG's special SD card offer (which ends in about two weeks) lists Best Buy as a seller, they will probably start selling them within the next week. But then I'll have to wait for T-Mobile to send me an unlock code, which will only take 3 days. Worst case scenario, 4G either doesn't work or is garbage and I have to return the phone, which I'll have 14 days to do for a full refund.
But if anyone figures out we get decent/excellent LTE speeds before I end up buying it, that would be awesome

According to the specs at http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/lg-v10.html?icid=WMM_TM_Q415LGPPLS_8HBL95OSNEJ3237#features (also in the screen shot)
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LTE: 2,3,4,5,7,12,20
Looks like it has 2 and 4 for AT&T but no 17 or 30 (for later). Though band 12 should be supported next year anywhere band 17 works.
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_Dennis_ said:
According to the specs at http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/lg-v10.html?icid=WMM_TM_Q415LGPPLS_8HBL95OSNEJ3237#features (also in the screen shot)
LTE: 2,3,4,5,7,12,20
Looks like it has 2 and 4 for AT&T but no 17 or 30 (for later). Though band 12 should be supported next year anywhere band 17 works.
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Since 12 and 17 are both a part of LTE700, do we know for sure if that will be enough to use AT&T's 4G network assuming we have the T-Mobile V10?

I put an app on a T-Mobile Note 3 named LTE Discovery. One must have band 17 for LTE in my location for AT&T LTE. On the T-Mobile web site the Note 3 does support LTE band 17. This does not look good, but will wait until someone confirms. At least on the FCC site the phone has been approved for LTE band 17 but it is not clear if this is the AT&T or T-Mobile version. One last thing the AT&T website does not list support for LTE band 17 either (very strange). Here is the AT&T V10 Bands: LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 29, and 30
Will try to buy this phone if they will unlock it at the store. Fat chance.

alphahere said:
Will try to buy this phone if they will unlock it at the store. Fat chance.
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They won't, but T-Mobile made it very clear that they would send me an unlocking code after I bought the phone (paid in full), so long as I can wait 2-3 days. This is why I want to wait until Best Buy sells it, because their return policy is so rock solid, and I can take advantage of that if 4G doesn't work. I can't say the same for trying to return the phone to T-Mobile. Plus, I really like Best Buy's accidental damage plans, so I'll wait for them to start selling it there.

Good information but the local bestbuy only sales T-Mobile prepaid phones.
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I picked up the v10 yesterday from T-Mobile and they gave me the phone and said they would unlock it immediately if I wanted to stay with AT&T. They will also finance it if I want. I told them exactly what and why I wanted to get this phone from T-Mobile instead of AT&T and they had absolutely no problem with it. I am testing the T-Mobile Service for now to see if it will work in my area. Would be close to $80 a month cheaper if I switch and a ton more data a month. Maybe certain areas have different rules? Not sure why my T-Mobile store would do that and others won't.
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Different stores do different things. Reminds me of the cricket store here. I wanted to buy a sim card and port my number they told me to go to walmart to buy one and call cricket to port my number. Anyway my son-in-law went to the cricket store in his area and they not only gave him a free sim card but ported his number. These stores don't have consistent policies.
Whatever.

eazyg said:
I picked up the v10 yesterday from T-Mobile and they gave me the phone and said they would unlock it immediately if I wanted to stay with AT&T. They will also finance it if I want. I told them exactly what and why I wanted to get this phone from T-Mobile instead of AT&T and they had absolutely no problem with it. I am testing the T-Mobile Service for now to see if it will work in my area. Would be close to $80 a month cheaper if I switch and a ton more data a month. Maybe certain areas have different rules? Not sure why my T-Mobile store would do that and others won't.
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I was told that the stores themselves don't have any authorization to do that kind of thing (carrier unlock), and that I'd have to go through customer care if I wanted to unlock it.
Did they tell you that in person? I find that what you're told on the phone and what actually happens in person are two very different things.
Did you get it unlocked yet? Everyone's pretty eager to see if 4G works.

ubergeek77 said:
I was told that the stores themselves don't have any authorization to do that kind of thing (carrier unlock), and that I'd have to go through customer care if I wanted to unlock it.
Did they tell you that in person? I find that what you're told on the phone and what actually happens in person are two very different things.
Did you get it unlocked yet? Everyone's pretty eager to see if 4G works.
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In person. I made it a point to ask. The guy that was helping me called his general manager to make sure. I didn't want to do this and get screwed over later if the guy didn't know what he was talking about.
Not unlocked yet. I'm finding the signal from T-Mobile is better than I had with AT&T so far. The true test will be when I go to work on Monday. For anyone with T-Mobile the service sucks inside the building I work in.
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In person. I made it a point to ask. The guy that was helping me called his general manager to make sure. I didn't want to do this and get screwed over later if the guy didn't know what he was talking about.
Not unlocked yet. I'm finding the signal from T-Mobile is better than I had with AT&T so far. The true test will be when I go to work on Monday. For anyone with T-Mobile the service sucks inside the building I work in.
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I definitely wish I could do the same. I have to drive nearly 70 miles to get to the nearest T-Mobile store, and of course they have coverage in that area, but they have absolutely no coverage where I actually live. If the phone works for sure on AT&T, I won't mind driving all that way to get it, nor will I mind paying the extra $35 for a stupid plan (really crappy that they force that on you), but I want to find all that out before I go an hour out of my way to find out I'm out of luck. I also really want to get this sorted out before the free SD card/battery promotion runs out. I'm considering just getting the AT&T one on a payment plan, but I just don't know how I'm going to get by without root.

At T-Mobile now to get unlock. Signal dropped as I drove past my job. I can't have the signal drop at work. I will let you know how it goes.
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eazyg said:
At T-Mobile now to get unlock. Signal dropped as I drove past my job. I can't have the signal drop at work. I will let you know how it goes.
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Thanks! I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we all really appreciate it. If you could use the speedtest.net app too, that would be awesome!

I called all the t-mobile stores close by and none have had the v10 in stock. All said it could be ordered and delivered in 2-3 days. Either they didn't have many or this is a hot phone.

There were only 2 stores in my area that had it and both probably sold out last night or today. (there's a ton of stores near me but only the "big" ones had it in stock yesterday.)
I was in store buying mine around 530 last night and a guy came in to get one as I was finishing up. The rep that was helping me was also going to buy one that evening and they only had like 4 left when I originally called.
I think its going to be more popular than they are anticipating because of the **removable battery and sd card**!
Samsung ditched a lot of people when they dumped the battery and sd and we've been waiting!
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There were only 2 stores in my area that had it and both probably sold out last night or today. (there's a ton of stores near me but only the "big" ones had it in stock yesterday.)
I was in store buying mine around 530 last night and a guy came in to get one as I was finishing up. The rep that was helping me was also going to buy one that evening and they only had like 4 left when I originally called.
I think its going to be more popular than they are anticipating because of the **removable battery and sd card**!
Samsung ditched a lot of people when they dumped the battery and sd and we've been waiting!
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Only $530 at T-Mobile? As in $499.99+tax? Why so cheap? I thought T-Mobile's retail price was $599.99.

ubergeek77 said:
Only $530 at T-Mobile? As in $499.99+tax? Why so cheap? I thought T-Mobile's retail price was $599.99.
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I think that was the time not price.
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Any online retailers in Canada selling the LG V20?

Newegg.ca was carrying some stock this morning, but an hour later they were sold out. Any other online retailer carrying this phone? I don't want to get the one from B&H as there will be customs and duties charged on an already pricey phone.
Finally made up my mind after reading some reviews this morning (I was considering the Pixel XL - I have a Nexus 6 currently), however I prefer the slightly bigger screen and replaceable battery on the V20 (I consider the rest of the features equivalent for my purposes). Found a couple on newegg.ca, but got distracted on a conference call, when I got back to the site, they were sold out....

Haven't seen it either. There is a tiny shop in Vancouver that appears to be selling it for $1300 but their website looks like its from 1999.

If we can buy the Tmobile variant with the $200 rebate it will be cheaper than buying it in Canada at any point in history I believe.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0YNFay/lg-us996-v20-lte-a/canada (LG H918TN) The LG V20 F800 is not useful in Canada.
B&H you can order, get a tablet, and some headphones. Of course you need a place to ship in the USA to pick up or use something like skypax or w/e.

boneplusone said:
If we can buy the Tmobile variant with the $200 rebate it will be cheaper than buying it in Canada at any point in history I believe.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0YNFay/lg-us996-v20-lte-a/canada (LG H918TN) The LG V20 F800 is not useful in Canada.
B&H you can order, get a tablet, and some headphones. Of course you need a place to ship in the USA to pick up or use something like skypax or w/e.
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Just remember that if you buy the T-Mobile phone you have to use it on their network for 40 days before getting it unlocked. Do NOT expect to get it unlocked from a 3rd party site. It won't work. I went down this road with the v10 and it is not a pleasant experience.

markbencze said:
Just remember that if you buy the T-Mobile phone you have to use it on their network for 40 days before getting it unlocked. Do NOT expect to get it unlocked from a 3rd party site. It won't work. I went down this road with the v10 and it is not a pleasant experience.
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Probably a better choice to just buy the B&H variant then, you get free headphones, free tablet, and an unlocked phone. I thought t-mobile was all unlocked phones, the uncarrier.

boneplusone said:
If we can buy the Tmobile variant with the $200 rebate it will be cheaper than buying it in Canada at any point in history I believe.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0YNFay/lg-us996-v20-lte-a/canada (LG H918TN) The LG V20 F800 is not useful in Canada.
B&H you can order, get a tablet, and some headphones. Of course you need a place to ship in the USA to pick up or use something like skypax or w/e.
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You won't be disappointed,virtually no 3rd party bloat (facebook can be disabled),as most of the T-Mobile garbage can be disabled as well.
It's a nice phone,root/de-bloat/ROMS will make it even better,my Note 7 is fast becoming a faded memory...................
markbencze said:
Just remember that if you buy the T-Mobile phone you have to use it on their network for 40 days before getting it unlocked. Do NOT expect to get it unlocked from a 3rd party site. It won't work. I went down this road with the v10 and it is not a pleasant experience.
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Good to see you in the neighborhood @markbencze
I've had success with this service,as recent as this year,with unlocking the HTC 10 & M9 before the 40 days is up (still under device contracts as well) :
https://blog.unlockbase.com/mobile-device-unlock-app-troubleshooting/
https://www.unlockbase.com/phone-unlocking-service/tmobile-device-unlock-app-official-unlock/
As we speak,I'm going to order it to try out,results are promised in 3-5 days,I'll update as soon as I get the results...........
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boneplusone said:
Probably a better choice to just buy the B&H variant then, you get free headphones, free tablet, and an unlocked phone. I thought t-mobile was all unlocked phones, the uncarrier.
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I just got the order confirmation:
As T-Mobile is different from other carriers,the usual 3rd party unlock codes DO NOT WORK,methods that are specific to T-Mobile's Device Unlock App are the only ones that will work w/current/newer T-Mobile phones.
Basically,if the phone comes with the Device Unlock app,you have to use the method specific for devices with that app:
Here's another example of what I'm talking about,from another supplier:
https://www.masterunlockcode.com/lg-u-s-a-t-mobile-unlock-via-[unlocking-app]-lg-v20-unlock-code-np-2383-21613
Yeah,it's expensive,all unlock services are with brand new devices,the prices do drop relatively soon.
The one I used in my previous post is $15 less expensive than this one,there's probably others out there,just pick one you like.
Again,my order should deliver mid-week,so,I'll post my results,perhaps save you some trouble should the unlock request be unsuccessful.
FWIW,the service I used has a money back guarantee,just follow the links I posted & follow the instructions in the correspondence after the order & you should be good to go.
Another BTW,I am a T-Mobile US customer with the T-Mobile variant of the V20,financed via JOD.
This shouldn't have any bearing on the success/failure on the unlock request,just a BTW. :good:

Well I used 3 different unlock site for my v10 and all 3 refunded me because of changes to the tmo device unlock app they couldn't do it anymore. Feel free to try but what I had to do was buy a prepaid birth American roaming plan for $50 usd a month and use it for over 40 days so it cost me $100 usd and then after 40 days send a ton of unlock requests. Finally after going through a ton of hours of tech support I got ahold of a lady in the vice president office who was able to grant the unlock. I posted the ladies info in the v10 and g5 forums somewhere in one of the several "unlock help" threads. It is a known problem for people who bought tmo devices hoping to use on other networks. So you've all been warned to prepare for a painful ordeal. Who knows maybe you get lucky.
What's B&H ?
Oh and what has my interest is the LG theme system. I've got my hands on the black and gold theme apk and took a peak at it. I'm gonna try and modify it slightly and get someone to test to see if it will install and be accessible like their other themes. If that's the case then I can make themes for it without issue. Unlike samscum who's themes don't install like a normal apk. That's gonna be the deciding factor if I get one of these or not

markbencze said:
Well I used 3 different unlock site for my v10 and all 3 refunded me because of changes to the tmo device unlock app they couldn't do it anymore. Feel free to try but what I had to do was buy a prepaid birth American roaming plan for $50 usd a month and use it for over 40 days so it cost me $100 usd and then after 40 days send a ton of unlock requests. Finally after going through a ton of hours of tech support I got ahold of a lady in the vice president office who was able to grant the unlock. I posted the ladies info in the v10 and g5 forums somewhere in one of the several "unlock help" threads. It is a known problem for people who bought tmo devices hoping to use on other networks. So you've all been warned to prepare for a painful ordeal. Who knows maybe you get lucky.
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I've used UNLOCK BASE in the past without issue & they do offer a guarantee,I used PayPal to check out,so,I'm not out any $$ for 14 days.
Should it not work,a call to PayPal will cancel the payment/transaction within minutes,so,virtually risk-free.
I know that's of little consolation for those on another network & paying for a device full price with usability still in question.
That's why I'm giving it a shot with this phone/service,it's the least I could do to help out the community.
I'll keep y'all posted
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What's B&H ?
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A very reputable electronics retailer in NYC (purchased several items on-line myself,including an ASUS ZenFone2):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/sear...Search=yes&sts=ma&typedValue=&Top+Nav-Search=
markbencze said:
Oh and what has my interest is the LG theme system. I've got my hands on the black and gold theme apk and took a peak at it. I'm gonna try and modify it slightly and get someone to test to see if it will install and be accessible like their other themes. If that's the case then I can make themes for it without issue. Unlike samscum who's themes don't install like a normal apk. That's gonna be the deciding factor if I get one of these or not
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Looking forward to it,we definitely appreciate your contributions to the XDA Community. :good:

KOLIOSIS said:
I've used UNLOCK BASE in the past without issue & they do offer a guarantee,I used PayPal to check out,so,I'm not out any $$ for 14 days.
Should it not work,a call to PayPal will cancel the payment/transaction within minutes,so,virtually risk-free.
I know that's of little consolation for those on another network & paying for a device full price with usability still in question.
That's why I'm giving it a shot with this phone/service,it's the least I could do to help out the community.
I'll keep y'all posted
A very reputable electronics retailer in NYC (purchased several items on-line myself,including an ASUS ZenFone2):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/sear...Search=yes&sts=ma&typedValue=&Top+Nav-Search=
Looking forward to it,we definitely appreciate your contributions to the XDA Community. :good:
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Sadly I'm not nearly as active out here anymore. I'm much more lively on Google +
Good luck with the phone though. I definitely want one. Gotta save some money first

markbencze said:
What's B&H ?
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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/co...ils&Q=&sku=1285960&is=REG&bundleId=1285960REG

boneplusone said:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/co...ils&Q=&sku=1285960&is=REG&bundleId=1285960REG
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Yes but the Tmo model apparently has an unlocked BL, does the one from B&H?
If not its not worth buying
Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 2

force70 said:
Yes but the Tmo model apparently has an unlocked BL, does the one from B&H?
If not its not worth buying
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The B&H phone has the same model number as the t mobile one from what I can tell. And in general, are there android phones that are not carrier locked but have locked boot loaders?

boneplusone said:
If we can buy the Tmobile variant with the $200 rebate it will be cheaper than buying it in Canada at any point in history I believe.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0YNFay/lg-us996-v20-lte-a/canada (LG H918TN) The LG V20 F800 is not useful in Canada.
B&H you can order, get a tablet, and some headphones. Of course you need a place to ship in the USA to pick up or use something like skypax or w/e.
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I don't want to deal with the customs/duties etc and would rather wait till I can get it from a Canadian site like newegg.ca. I've been burned too many times with customs/duties and its a hassle driving down to Buffalo to get the phone - working too many hours these days.
Surely there's got to be more than one retailer selling the phone in Canada?

@boneplusone @markbencze
Just got the e-mail from UnlockBase,my TMOUS LG V20 is now SIM Unlocked:
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@[email protected]
Just got the e-mail from UnlockBase,my TMOUS LG V20 is now SIM Unlocked:
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Wow that's awesome. Maybe they figured out a way to bypass the unlock app. That would be excellent if they did. Happy you didn't have to experience what I and other suffered through

markbencze said:
Wow that's awesome. Maybe they figured out a way to bypass the unlock app. That would be excellent if they did. Happy you didn't have to experience what I and other suffered through
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I've used this exact same service for at least 3 T-Mobile devices with the Device Unlock app & have never had an issue whatsoever.
One big BTW:
This has to be performed on an unrooted device,however,once unrooted (which I had to do on one of my phones), the service works as intended.
Re-rooting the device has no effect on SIM Unlock status afterwards.(I'm certain most are aware of this, but, just putting it out there, since this T-Mobile Device Unlock app & 3rd party unlock method is new to a lot of users everywhere). :good:
Sent from my elsa using XDA Labs

Here you go.
mobilesyrup.com/2016/10/25/lg-v20-to-launch-in-canada-on-october-28

boneplusone said:
Haven't seen it either. There is a tiny shop in Vancouver that appears to be selling it for $1300 but their website looks like its from 1999.
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have bought a few phones from these guys including my V20.

http://www.lg.com/ca_en/press-release/v20-launch-windvideotron

boneplusone said:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/press-release/v20-launch-windvideotron
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I wonder if Wind would sell me one - I'm with Fido.

General [CLOSED] After Threatening Google W/ Class Action Lawsuit, they gave in...

Original Post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...s-class-action-lawsuit.4561849/#post-88247485
After emailing a threat to Google, that both them and VZW was up for a class action lawsuit for NOT having the Retail Box Read "VZW Bootloaders cannot and will not Ever be UNLOCKED even after Carrier Unlocking Device..."
A supervisor approved my VZW replacement with a Google Branded Replacement.
It's all about what you know and how you say it!
Replacement should be here Tuesday or Wednesday!
I can't believe they went against policy over a threat!
"
Greetings from Google!
I have glad news for you! I have checked with my specialists and we got approval for the unlocked version replacement. In order to help you with a replacement, we need to collect the device from you first and once the device reaches our warehouse, we will be able to send a replacement device.
I would need the below details:
Full Name
Shipping address
Phone number
I'll send the shipping labels when you help me with the above details.
Awaiting your reply!"

Can you please tell me where you emailed this to?
I've tried this through Google support and they just throw me over to Verizon.
Thank you and have a nice night!

AndroidAddict420 said:
Original Post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...s-class-action-lawsuit.4561849/#post-88247485
After emailing a threat to Google, that both them and VZW was up for a class action lawsuit for NOT having the Retail Box Read "VZW Bootloaders cannot and will not Ever be UNLOCKED even after Carrier Unlocking Device..."
A supervisor approved my VZW replacement with a Google Branded Replacement.
It's all about what you know and how you say it!
Replacement should be here Tuesday or Wednesday!
I can't believe they went against policy over a threat!
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Greetings from Google!
I have glad news for you! I have checked with my specialists and we got approval for the unlocked version replacement. In order to help you with a replacement, we need to collect the device from you first and once the device reaches our warehouse, we will be able to send a replacement device.
I would need the below details:
Full Name
Shipping address
Phone number
I'll send the shipping labels when you help me with the above details.
Awaiting your reply!"
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Why you not cry for Apple devices? You can't unlock bootloader, you can't install custom rom and Apple not give you permision to root it.

Glad u got that taken care of but they weren't afraid of your threat. They probably get that 600x/day. They wanted you to go away. I still dont understand the issue here. Everyone has known for 10 years you can't do this with a VZW phone. Why did you just get the Google phone again instead of hoping there would be an exploit someday to be able to root a carrier device?

AndroidAddict420 said:
Original Post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...s-class-action-lawsuit.4561849/#post-88247485
After emailing a threat to Google, that both them and VZW was up for a class action lawsuit for NOT having the Retail Box Read "VZW Bootloaders cannot and will not Ever be UNLOCKED even after Carrier Unlocking Device..."
A supervisor approved my VZW replacement with a Google Branded Replacement.
It's all about what you know and how you say it!
Replacement should be here Tuesday or Wednesday!
I can't believe they went against policy over a threat!
"
Greetings from Google!
I have glad news for you! I have checked with my specialists and we got approval for the unlocked version replacement. In order to help you with a replacement, we need to collect the device from you first and once the device reaches our warehouse, we will be able to send a replacement device.
I would need the below details:
Full Name
Shipping address
Phone number
I'll send the shipping labels when you help me with the above details.
Awaiting your reply!"
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Nettwerk said:
Why you not cry for Apple devices? You can't unlock bootloader, you can't install custom rom and Apple not give you permision to root it.
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What does apple have to do with his issue?

never get phone through a carrier to begin with. just get it right from the manufacturer delivered to your house then set up the sim through the carrier.

OP thinks two giant companies care about your idle threats. I'll laugh if they send you another VZW replacement or if the exchange never goes through. In the future buy unlocked and save yourself a headache.

AndroidAddict420 said:
Original Post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...s-class-action-lawsuit.4561849/#post-88247485
After emailing a threat to Google, that both them and VZW was up for a class action lawsuit for NOT having the Retail Box Read "VZW Bootloaders cannot and will not Ever be UNLOCKED even after Carrier Unlocking Device..."
A supervisor approved my VZW replacement with a Google Branded Replacement.
It's all about what you know and how you say it!
Replacement should be here Tuesday or Wednesday!
I can't believe they went against policy over a threat!
"
Greetings from Google!
I have glad news for you! I have checked with my specialists and we got approval for the unlocked version replacement. In order to help you with a replacement, we need to collect the device from you first and once the device reaches our warehouse, we will be able to send a replacement device.
I would need the below details:
Full Name
Shipping address
Phone number
I'll send the shipping labels when you help me with the above details.
Awaiting your reply!"
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So people were nice to you . . . and your response is to mock them online?

I am curious for an update....I'm curious to see if the replacement wasn't "accidentally" a Verizon variant again...
There's more chance of it being an unlocked one since it's Google handling the replacement and it's coming (supposedly) from a Google warehouse, but I wouldn't be surprised -- whether on purpose or accidentally by a warehouse worker reading the order wrong -- if they accidentally send a Verizon variant because it's going to a Verizon customer...
Either way, I wouldn't count that there was any chance it being replaced on the Verizon side...I wonder how many Google reps would be willing to allow this kind of thing before denying it outright no matter how much pestering...

This class action lawsuit is about as dumb as fat people suing McDonald's because the food made them fat. Give it up already. Do some research before buying or go with a different carrier.

@AndroidAddict420, do you mind giving us an update? How is your device? Everything you expected? I'm very curious -- I'm sure you have at least some of us just as curious...

simplepinoi177 said:
@AndroidAddict420, do you mind giving us an update? How is your device? Everything you expected? I'm very curious -- I'm sure you have at least some of us just as curious...
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They will send him a Verizon model device, no question about it. Their "unlocked device" will be carrier unlocked and not bootloader unlockable. This once happened to me with a Pixel 3 that I got from Google but was Verizon branded. The problem was that Verizon locked the dual sim function and Google was just starting to roll it out. I begged, pleaded got Verizon on conference call with Google all to no avail. But I persisted and finally got a second tier rep that got be the exchange. But it took about a month of calling every day and was probably not worth my time since the dual sim was only single active. But hey, I've been wrong before although not often. lol

Hahaha
OP is busy sending another ‘threat’ email because the replacement they sent him was a VZW locked one too.

****posting. Mods lock and delete this fool

bobby janow said:
They will send him a Verizon model device, no question about it. Their "unlocked device" will be carrier unlocked and not bootloader unlockable. This once happened to me with a Pixel 3 that I got from Google but was Verizon branded. The problem was that Verizon locked the dual sim function and Google was just starting to roll it out. I begged, pleaded got Verizon on conference call with Google all to no avail. But I persisted and finally got a second tier rep that got be the exchange. But it took about a month of calling every day and was probably not worth my time since the dual sim was only single active. But hey, I've been wrong before although not often. lol
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The funny thing is, this could have ALL BEEN AVOIDED. This so-called veteran android person bought the phone out-right at the beginning. It would be another story as he had to buy it from Verizon in payments. This is not the case. He completely paid for the phone from Verizon. That was a dumb mistake. He is trying to make Verizon pay for his stupidity.

schmeggy929 said:
The funny thing is, this could have ALL BEEN AVOIDED. This so-called veteran android person bought the phone out-right at the beginning. It would be another story as he had to buy it from Verizon in payments. This is not the case. He completely paid for the phone from Verizon. That was a dumb mistake. He is trying to make Verizon pay for his stupidity.
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Yes you are correct but it might not have been stupidity merely ignorance. When you buy from Google on their store there are 3 versions, unlocked, Google Fi and Verizon. If you are on a VZW plan it's easy to chose that one if doing it quickly. One red flag is that the Verizon one is $100 more due to the availability of mmWave. I'm sure he won't make that mistake again. If he's outside the return window of 15 days then he's out of luck. The only way to correct the mistake is a full return and repurchase but that's a moot point now.

schmeggy929 said:
The funny thing is, this could have ALL BEEN AVOIDED...He completely paid for the phone from Verizon.
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Sometimes it is hard to avoid simple mistakes when cannabis is involved. You might be an expert at something and then could potentially make a blatant, goofy mistake without even realizing it for a bit too long. And sometimes it could cause the polar opposite to happen!
But, ya know, perhaps I'm totally wrong and the user just likes the number in their username, haha ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

OP dodging with updating us. Must be enjoying his new VZW Pixel while calling Google and Verizon back again and again while drafting legal forms to start a class action lawsuit.