[Q] Terrible standby battery life - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Hello
This is actually my first post, so I guess a short introduction would be nice.
I'm a high schooler living two lives. A cool kid at school, and a phone geek at home. I'm aware that this quite normal in xda lol.
So yesterday I let my phone hang overnight. Wifi, sync, phone radio on. But when I woke up after 7hs of sleep, I noticed that I lost 19%(33%->14%), which is totally unacceptable, but could not find the cause. Oddly, my screen on time has been excellent. So what's sucking on my battery? Btw I'm using ViperXL 3.2.8 and ElementalX 6.5.
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In the second shot of the battery consumption list did you click on the one with the highest consumption (system). It looks like you had a wakelock, clicking on that would have told you what caused it.
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I agree with timmaaa. It's most likely maps or gmail or something. Greenify would hibernate them for you. Apps syncing will use the radio, radio is a huge battery killer (especially LTE). Only makes sense really. If you're sleeping why keep the radios/sync on?..

exad said:
I agree with timmaaa. It's most likely maps or gmail or something. Greenify would hibernate them for you. Apps syncing will use the radio, radio is a huge battery killer. Only makes sense really. If you're sleeping why keep the radios/sync on?..
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That's weird... I'm currently using Greenify, and hibernated Maps and some apps. Actually my only suspicion was Greenify.
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timmaaa said:
In the second shot of the battery consumption list did you click on the one with the highest consumption (system). It looks like you had a wakelock, clicking on that would have told you what caused it.
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So this ***** has been sucking on my thing? Isn't mediaserver supposed to be only active during listening to music or something? I'm confused
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At the risk of taking this thread further afield than Thug meant, how do you guys like Greenify? Worth the time to set up and manage, or does it only shave off a bit of drain?

Thug_4_Life said:
So this ***** has been sucking on my thing? Isn't mediaserver supposed to be only active during listening to music or something? I'm confused
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Yes, but some apps re-awaken and whatnot. bubbleupnp would wakelock for me too. greenifying it seemed to stop it.
As for does greenify save battery life? You're asking the wrong question. the right question is, does greenify prevent wakelocks? Yes, it does.
If wake locks are the cause of your battery drain and the apps can be hibernated then yes it will improve your battery life..

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Saving battery life

Hi all.
Looking for some serious help. Coming from a Samsung vibrant. I need help with how to save battery life on the sensation. I have been off charger for 5 hours and 51 minutes and am down to 41%. Is this normal? I have been only texting really. I got my data from battery monitor.
Thanks in advance. Anyway to make this better?
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It all depends on what you're using the phone for. I'm at 55% after 12 hours. yesterday I got 17 hours. if all you're doing us texting then no,thats not normal. but I suspect you're probably doing more with it than you realize since its a new toy.
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He prolly has running wifi as well?
Settings > Wireless and networks > Wifi settings > [MENU BUTTON] > Advanced > Wifi sleep policy > After 15 minutes
Stop Android from phoning home and you'll save greatly on battery life.
Best way I've found to prevent battery drain, is to stop Android from phoning home.
Once you use an app like Autostarts to stop unnecessary things from starting up all the time on their own and also block a couple ports that are not always needed via an app like DroidWall, you'll see great battery life. Also see other details in that link of things I turned off to increase battery life amoung other benefits.
For now, I can only speak for seeing the difference while using a Nexus One ROM on my HD2, but I have way better battery life, GPS lock times and faster device boot ups than ever before.
This is yet another one of the reasons I must wait till the Sensation is rooted and unlocked. Because I'm not using it while it's running things I can't better manage, so they don't drain my battery.
Profondo_Rosso said:
It all depends on what you're using the phone for. I'm at 55% after 12 hours. yesterday I got 17 hours. if all you're doing us texting then no,thats not normal. but I suspect you're probably doing more with it than you realize since its a new toy.
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How did u get that much? I have battery monitor as a widget. I also did not charge the phone all the way up when I first got it.
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Well to be honest for the 8 hours I'm at work, I use it light. texting, a few calls and about 30 minutes of reading pulse and playing games. However the next 8-9 hours I would consider moderate to heavy use. I have no monitors or anything running, just running straight out of the box.
I'm at 34% after 14.5 hours today.
I charged it fully the first day, ran it to 0, then charged it fully again last night.
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Did draining it out help? It is really killing my battery. When my phone idles it loses about 7 percent an hour. Is this normal?
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Mine is at most 3% per hour so I would say check if you have any running apps that aren't supposed to be.
I suppose draining could have helped but I have no way of knowing for sure
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Yeah I killed my battery in 12 hours with decent use and then charged to 88 had to go but now down to 35 three hours later ....thinking of draining battery and then charging
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I think custom kernel can improve battery a lot..Wait
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I think mine's even worse. Phone was off charger at 100% at 11am, by 1:30PM it's already down to 80%ish. By 4PM it was down to 40%ish, got it charged up to about 70%ish around 6PM, by midnight I was around 6% again.
So I think I'm losing around 10%/hr. That's gotta be abnormal, and the battery gets really hot too. At the moment, I have several speculations:
1. Death grip causing the phone to work harder to find signal, and tmo's coverage kinda sucks in my town
2. I have defective unit/battery
3. Some apps behind the scene are killing it. But I've checked what's running behind, even turned off unnecessary stuff using autorun manager. Auto sync is turned of only for gmails. Weather, IMAP mails, pulse, facebook etc are set to pull in couple hrs instead hourly. The battery life cannot be worse than my 2-yr old HD2.
Hey guys. Have you considered bump charging. HTC advised the idea for the HTC desire battery and it in most cases doubles the battery.
Sorry I can't be more specific bit I'm on my phone. I have found the relevant link. Read the 1st post. I'm gonna do it when I get in from my gig.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
Bump charging kills the battery in long run.
If you have to do it to a brand new handset it can't be good news.
HTC shipping crapy product again!
Customers should not have to put up with this crap and be the beta tester!
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snarestud940 said:
Hi all.
Looking for some serious help. Coming from a Samsung vibrant. I need help with how to save battery life on the sensation. I have been off charger for 5 hours and 51 minutes and am down to 41%. Is this normal? I have been only texting really. I got my data from battery monitor.
Thanks in advance. Anyway to make this better?
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I'd suggest uninstalling battery monitor. I had installed it on my g2x and immediately saw my battery percentage drajning more quickly. Probably because its always running in the background.
The best tip I can give for better battery life is to minimize what you allow to run in the background. Get rid of any task killers, set Facebook/Twitter/Email/etc to sync less frequently, turn off wifi if you're not using it so its not scanning for networks, and so on.
Also install juice defender from the Market. Its free. It has greatly increased my battery life.
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phburks said:
I'd suggest uninstalling battery monitor. I had installed it on my g2x and immediately saw my battery percentage drajning more quickly. Probably because its always running in the background.
The best tip I can give for better battery life is to minimize what you allow to run in the background. Get rid of any task killers, set Facebook/Twitter/Email/etc to sync less frequently, turn off wifi if you're not using it so its not scanning for networks, and so on.
Also install juice defender from the Market. Its free. It has greatly increased my battery life.
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I tried juice defender. Didn't know how to set it up properly. What are good settings for that? And thanks for your help everyone.
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snarestud940 said:
I tried juice defender. Didn't know how to set it up properly. What are good settings for that? And thanks for your help everyone.
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I installed the Plus version because it allows wifi control. I just use the default settings except I change so it doesn't disable wifi. I do that because I use wifi calling at home so I dont want Juice Defender turning off my wifi. I always turn it off manually when I leave the house anyway.
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phburks said:
I installed the Plus version because it allows wifi control. I just use the default settings except I change so it doesn't disable wifi. I do that because I use wifi calling at home so I dont want Juice Defender turning off my wifi. I always turn it off manually when I leave the house anyway.
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Balanced settings? Or whatever it is called?
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Balanced settings? Or whatever it is called?
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Yea Balanced Settings is good if you don't mind it managing your wifi too. In the Plus version I selected Customize instead of Balanced. The only thing I changed was the wifi setting. There's a ton more settings to configure but the default ones work fine for me and I don't have the patience to sift through them all anyway lol
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phburks said:
Yea Balanced Settings is good if you don't mind it managing your wifi too. In the Plus version I selected Customize instead of Balanced. The only thing I changed was the wifi setting. There's a ton more settings to configure but the default ones work fine for me and I don't have the patience to sift through them all anyway lol
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I agree but recommend you take the time to set up each setting on customise mode and you'll be amazed how much extra battery you save fr!!om the default values. Only takes about 5 mins

Juice Defender

I got betterbatterystats today and it says that juice defender is killing my battery.. Anyone else experience this??
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Oh the irony.
Lol.. I'm wondering if that is what is killing it outside of lte
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MrMiami81 said:
I got betterbatterystats today and it says that juice defender is killing my battery.. Anyone else experience this??
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I was having the same problem. Mabye disabling LTE and renableing it forcing it to look for signal constantly is part of the problem. All I know for sure is it was causing huge problems with my battery life.
I think the general consensus is that most battery saver apps don't really help as they are constantly trying to kill and disable stuff while your OS may try to re-enable them. I would get an app like Tasker instead and setup tasks to enable/disable your radio at certain times instead.
Battery saver apps=battery killer apps
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wiesman2613 said:
Battery saver apps=battery killer apps
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This
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elsupermang said:
I think the general consensus is that most battery saver apps don't really help as they are constantly trying to kill and disable stuff while your OS may try to re-enable them. I would get an app like Tasker instead and setup tasks to enable/disable your radio at certain times instead.
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But you can do that with Juice Defender, and really, that's all it does unless you enable app controls.
I've been using JD on my HOX for over a month, and it makes a noticeable difference.
I do have the Ultimate version. I have not used the free version so cannot speak to that one.
It might be your LTE that's killing your battery and not juice defender.
G Star said:
It might be your LTE that's killing your battery and not juice defender.
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LTE does not kill the battery on this phone. I am connected to and using LTE all day, every day and my battery life is amazing.
Agreed, LTE for me isn't the battery killer, I'm on it all day everyday.
I've used in the past JD on other handsets and found them to suck the power.
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On the snapdragon S4 devices lte radio is built on the chip and uses less power than Verizon lte because there's just one radio vs two. Vzw phones have to fall back to evdo and use cdma for calls. So far this means two radios. I don't know if this changes with the S4 based Vzw phones.
Has anyone else noticed that when you're making a call LTE service goes away? It drops back to normal 4g.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Has anyone else noticed that when you're making a call LTE service goes away? It drops back to normal 4g.
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Pretty sure it does this to save batter you don't need LTE to make calls
I found because I unlock my phone every couple minutes, that juice defender toggling all my signal services is what drained the hell out of my phone. Just uninstall it. Turn off mobile data when you don't use it, and WiFi when you can, and your battery life will be golden. I usually get about 3 hours of screen on time. Which isn't bad IMO.
ECEXCURSION said:
Has anyone else noticed that when you're making a call LTE service goes away? It drops back to normal 4g.
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LTE is just for data at the moment no VoLTE yet.
Same thing here...
MrMiami81 said:
I got betterbatterystats today and it says that juice defender is killing my battery.. Anyone else experience this??
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I ran my HOX without Juice Defender for the first few days that I had it to get a sense for stock battery life. It was great and I was excited to get even more duration from it with JD. After a few days using JD and getting much worse battery life, I removed it and was back to normal.
Note: I live in a non-LTE area.
gordopa1 said:
I ran my HOX without Juice Defender for the first few days that I had it to get a sense for stock battery life. It was great and I was excited to get even more duration from it with JD. After a few days using JD and getting much worse battery life, I removed it and was back to normal.
Note: I live in a non-LTE area.
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I agree with this. No one should use Juice Defender!
Juice defender just turns off data when the screen is off... Which can be done manually anyways.
Or am I missing something?
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Juice defender is just another app that will help drain the battery
Download DX toolbox and you can turn off background apps and other advanced settings.

Any issue with juice defender and wifi

Hi everyone,
Did anyone have any issue with juice defender and wifi? Every time I turn on my screen juice defender enables wifi but the signal strength is shown as minimum. Problem is solved after a sleep (or a reboot). My setting includes juice defender to manage my wifi and my wifi sleep policy is set to "when plugged in".
Thanks,
Sayantan
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Admins I reckon that I may have posted this in the wrong section. Can you please move it to "Themes and Apps"?
Thanks,
Sayantan
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Uninstall that app! Juice defender will cause you more headaches then you know! It causes all kinds of wake locks on your phone. Android has a fantastic build in task killer that monitors apps and kills them if necessary.
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Very true. Juice Defender, will cause even good behaving apps to freak out and keep their wake locks active while they wait for the data connection. If you want to improve your battery's life expectancy between charges, try HERE...
Agreed Apex. SHAME ON ME for not sending him to your battery thread. Daggumit. Nooooob Fall.
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Agreed Apex. SHAME ON ME for not sending him to your battery thread. Daggumit. Nooooob Fall.
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No worries, mate!
Very true.. Thanks for showing me the right direction on this. This app is way more pain than it's useful. You end uo micro managing anyway.
I found that I was draining battery partly due to overclocking (1350). Maybe I need to play with the governors more. Currently using pegasusq with sio on the io side.
Thanks,
Sayantan
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Thanks. I'll try it first thing tomorrow. Does it add the hotplug governor to shut off one core? The one that I was trying out now is pegasusq, but I think I messed up its parameters a bit. I also gave hotplugx a try, but did not get better results.. Will try and let you know the results.
Thanks for sharing this mate,
Sayantan
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Don't use JD, it uses more battery life than it saves, or might just break even, it's a placebo. Use toggles to turn off 4g and wifi when not in use
i also used JD few months back. found it to useless in terms of battery life, though it shows battery life incresed x2.0 times. not using now.:banghead:
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I must admit I was fooled by it for a long time and was impressed by its "300%" battery improvement. I finally un installed it and started using my toggles more frequently, and 3g is turned off on my phone unless I'm out and want data or I'm sending an mms, that combined with smart underclocking rules (screen off, and in steps as the battery dies) will get you a lot more battery life than JD or any other app will get you. I've heard tasker can be good to automate battery saving rules, but for me personally pressing a widget or dragging my status bar down doesn't require much effort. If you still aren't happy with your battery life, look into an extended battery
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Awake vs Screen on

I can't seem to figure out the difference between the screen being on and the device being awake... I thought they were the same thing?
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Screen on is the screen is physically on. Awake is the processor is running an apps are using power. You wouldn't want awake to be a lot unless your screen is on a lot. If it is, that means something is running while your screen is off(wake lock). Typically resulting in a bad battery drain.
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tu3218 said:
Screen on is the screen is physically on. Awake is the processor is running an apps are using power. You wouldn't want awake to be a lot unless your screen is on a lot. If it is, that means something is running while your screen is off(wake lock). Typically resulting in a bad battery drain.
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What apps are known for running in wake lock? Is it a system problem?
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if i remember correctly, better battery stats is a highly recommended app for monitoring wakelocks/battery usage
ddurandSGS3 said:
if i remember correctly, better battery stats is a highly recommended app for monitoring wakelocks/battery usage
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I've heard of GSam as well as better battery stats, and then being differently priced, is there a key difference or advantage to one or the other? Dropping a buck more for better battery doesn't bother me, I just don't wanna have to buy both in the end.
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Better battery stats is very powerful, it reads pretty much everything. It will take a bit of research to understand all of its functions though. It also uses root permissions to dig deep into the kernels power consumption. If you really don't want to donate (pay), the paid version is available in the apps section for free for xda members.
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Better battery stats is very powerful, it reads pretty much everything. It will take a bit of research to understand all of its functions though. It also uses root permissions to dig deep into the kernels power consumption. If you really don't want to donate (pay), the paid version is available in the apps section for free for xda members.
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Where is this apps section?

Droid Mini battery 🔋 drains too fast

I am looking for solution as my device drains battery really fast.
I hope someone could assist me on this... I am using 444, su6-7.2 with bootloader locked.
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What does your Battery page display has the apps using battery?
opt05 said:
What does your Battery page display has the apps using battery?
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Sorry, I could not get what you are asking about...
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Before that screen there is another one where is ? drain ranked by app
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affineer said:
Sorry, I could not get what you are asking about...
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Settings / battery. THe page before the graph you posted - which apps are listed there, and what are the %? (That said, you use the phone a lot - there is a lot of screen on/ awake time on your graph. Turn the screen brightness down maybe?)
doogald said:
Settings / battery. THe page before the graph you posted - which apps are listed there, and what are the %? (That said, you use the phone a lot - there is a lot of screen on/ awake time on your graph. Turn the screen brightness down maybe?)
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You are talking about that page I think...
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I am also getting the issue. I'm on 6-7, 24.3.7, rooted, and if I use it intensely it will go down to 14% before 3:30 PM. I'm surprised, as the issue never happened when I got the phone new.
If your screen is 42%, you're just using it a lot. The Mini has a small battery. Maybe you can try setting brightness down, but it looks like this is drain because you use it rather than a runaway app or process.
That said, Google Play services and Google services have been running high on my usage list lately. There's not much you can do about that, except maybe turn off background sync, which sort of negates the reason I bought a smartphone in the first place.
Battery Doctor
Guys, I have been using Battery Doctor for few days, I have noticed positive effect on battery life. Maybe someone is interested to try..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ijinshan.kbatterydoctor_en&hl=en
I hope it helps to others too.

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