Awake vs Screen on - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I can't seem to figure out the difference between the screen being on and the device being awake... I thought they were the same thing?
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

Screen on is the screen is physically on. Awake is the processor is running an apps are using power. You wouldn't want awake to be a lot unless your screen is on a lot. If it is, that means something is running while your screen is off(wake lock). Typically resulting in a bad battery drain.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app

tu3218 said:
Screen on is the screen is physically on. Awake is the processor is running an apps are using power. You wouldn't want awake to be a lot unless your screen is on a lot. If it is, that means something is running while your screen is off(wake lock). Typically resulting in a bad battery drain.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What apps are known for running in wake lock? Is it a system problem?
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

if i remember correctly, better battery stats is a highly recommended app for monitoring wakelocks/battery usage

ddurandSGS3 said:
if i remember correctly, better battery stats is a highly recommended app for monitoring wakelocks/battery usage
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've heard of GSam as well as better battery stats, and then being differently priced, is there a key difference or advantage to one or the other? Dropping a buck more for better battery doesn't bother me, I just don't wanna have to buy both in the end.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

Better battery stats is very powerful, it reads pretty much everything. It will take a bit of research to understand all of its functions though. It also uses root permissions to dig deep into the kernels power consumption. If you really don't want to donate (pay), the paid version is available in the apps section for free for xda members.

annoyingduck said:
Better battery stats is very powerful, it reads pretty much everything. It will take a bit of research to understand all of its functions though. It also uses root permissions to dig deep into the kernels power consumption. If you really don't want to donate (pay), the paid version is available in the apps section for free for xda members.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where is this apps section?

Related

Good app to monitor battery usage?

I'm about to test out a 1700mah battery is bought. I wanted to see if there is a good accurate battery/phone usage app so I don't have to guess about how many text, calls, and how long I web browser or played games for? I really need one asap cuz I'm about to unplug for my first full battery cycle.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Battery left. Install it, use your phone like you normally would until it dies. Repeat, and it will have a fairly accurate estimate of the amount of time left until your phone dies.
This is especially useful of you use set CPU profiles.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Battery Monitor Wdiget. Developed by someone here at XDA (Sorry I cannot remember who. I'm terrible with names) It's pretty powerful yet doesn't draw a significant amount of power.
ERIFNOMI said:
Battery Monitor Wdiget. Developed by someone here at XDA (Sorry I cannot remember who. I'm terrible with names) It's pretty powerful yet doesn't draw a significant amount of power.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just downloaded this and am loving it! Gives tons of current and past details of your battery. Definately worth a download.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
I use battery left widget I have a 2750mah by HTC.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

Battery saver apps

Hey guys I would just like ppl opinion on the various battery saving apps that are available on the market.
Do you think they actually work? best apps(in your opinion) and best configuration to save most battery.
I have juice defender and and it always says that it is saving me somewhere around 1.6 but I'm not totally sure that that is the case.
I have not had it installed for the last couple of days and my battery doesn't seem to be noticeable y worse than when it was installed
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
I have stopped using them. I have think it depends in how a person uses their phone to start with. All of those options, can be done manually. I personally got tires of switching to different profiles for what I was doing. I haven't noticed much difference myself.
but, that is just my experience.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2
chrism.brunner said:
I have stopped using them. I have think it depends in how a person uses their phone to start with. All of those options, can be done manually. I personally got tires of switching to different profiles for what I was doing. I haven't noticed much difference myself.
but, that is just my experience.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes well that's the way I'm going I think. They taking up space and memory on phone and not really getting any noticeable benefit from having them installed.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
gavmac said:
Yes well that's the way I'm going I think. They taking up space and memory on phone and not really getting any noticeable benefit from having them installed.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They do keep us occupied ...... for about a week. That's worth something I guess.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2
The battery on my phone is going iPhone-ish, I need one of the battery saving apps, Are there any decent ones yet?
I would try Bataria from the market. Its free, and doesn't use much resources to do its job. I think the best is to manually adjust different settings on your phone. Same results, nothing running in the background to do it.
I am using Greenpowe.
Battery apps are usually crap. The only ones that really work are the ones that modify how your phone's software works. And those almost always require root access.
If by chance you are rooted, I recommend SetCPU, Autostarts and Autokiller. SetCPU will allow you to set profiles such as throttling while the screen is off, which will save you a ton of battery. Autostarts will stop custom apps from starting with your phone's OS, which leads to less background processes. And Autokiller will ensure that you have plenty of free memory for less tasks being killed and restarted. That alone has the potential to make a huge difference in your battery life.
I'm not trying for snarky, but
An app can't save battery by running
But you can save battery by turning something off
Yoshiofthewire said:
I'm not trying for snarky, but
An app can't save battery by running
But you can save battery by turning something off
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I totally agree.
My uncle uses juice defender, but I think it's better for the battery to manage everything yourself.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
yeah I've been using Juice Defender. It does save some battery life.
If you have a horrible phone like mine, juice defender ultimate works wonders. My LG optimus m gets about 12 hours of life without it, and about 18 hours with it.
Sent from my LG-MS690 using xda premium
On my OG EVO I used juice defender plus and it helped out greatly. Saw 1.8x a couple of times. On the new EVO LTE I don't use a thing and it keeps going and going and going...
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2

should i use a "battery saver" app?

i seem to get pretty bad battery life with my tablet, about 5 hours,
i'm thinking of using a battery saver app, but i don't know if i should because i worry these apps will harm my tablet,
how do these "battery saver" apps work? it always runs in the background to monitor battery/change settings,.... so it even makes our tablet drain battery quicker? (because it always runs in the background)
some apps also have feature like "fast charge, continuous charge, fully charge cycle, trickle charge". how can it change the "charging way" that asus made? i heard trickle charge is charging with low current and help extend battery life, but how can it lower the current?
this is what i worry the most, does it do something that physically harm my battery?
if you use an app like this, do you see any battery life improvement, and if so, which app would you recommend using?
thanks
I use eugenea CPU sleeper for quad core
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
I would say how long have you had the tablet? 5 hours is a bit ridiculous. If its new just give it some time and you should start seeing better battery life. If not you probably got a bad battery. Talk to asus about that. I don't even know of any tablet on the market that cant get more than 5 hours. With something that bad a battery saver app wont help.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda premium
More info like what screen time etc, download app sucker and CPU spy. See what's using battery
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
seshaz said:
More info like what screen time etc, download app sucker and CPU spy. See what's using battery
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where do you find app sucker?
lazer9 said:
Where do you find app sucker?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just dl gsam battery
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app

Snapdragon Battery Guru

Hi All,
This is an app that i just found that apparently is extremely useful for the I9505 variant containing the Snapdragon processor.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app#_blank
"Snapdragonâ„¢ BatteryGuru is a battery life saver app that extends battery performance and improves overall user experience by intelligently making changes that optimize device functionality in phones with Snapdragon mobile processors."
I have just installed it to see how it goes over the next few days.
Just thought i should share it with everyone.
Cheers
It will be very interesting to see how this turns out
Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
still need 1 days and 8 hour for me. will see how it goes.
23 hours left hear lol
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda premium
mine says 4 days of learning left....
will be interesting to see what it learns and how well it effectively puts that learning into practice to help battery life.
didn't really make much any difference for me so deleted it... not to say it won't work for you though
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Verdict still out for me as well. 1 day left of learning.
beaver2233 said:
didn't really make much any difference for me so deleted it... not to say it won't work for you though
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
I know this app from the Nexus 4, no differences....
beaver2233 said:
didn't really make much any difference for me so deleted it... not to say it won't work for you though
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
did you let the learning time pass? and still not notice much?
AMDPOWERFIST said:
did you let the learning time pass? and still not notice much?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah of course (the app has been out for quite a while so it's not new). But as I said may be different for different users (those who sync a lot etc).
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
I used this app for Nexus 4 when it was launched, after it learnt it mostly disabled my Gmail/Whatsapp/Tango and whenever I used to open those APPs then only I could get notifications. This is even when, I have disabled that do not enable this feature on this & this app. Strangely I had to uninstall the app so that I can receive notifications
coolraghav said:
I used this app for Nexus 4 when it was launched, after it learnt it mostly disabled my Gmail/Whatsapp/Tango and whenever I used to open those APPs then only I could get notifications. This is even when, I have disabled that do not enable this feature on this & this app. Strangely I had to uninstall the app so that I can receive notifications
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its mostly useless because of this.
I used it on my previous phone as well, Motorola RAZR HD. There were options to enable data for those apps (I don't use Tango though), and I did.
In the end all it was essentially doing is managing my WiFi, and it made poor choices about that, disconnecting me when I was at home and using WiFi. It made sense to the app; WiFi took more power, but it wasn't the way I wanted to use it.
In the end, it didn't do anything but screw up my experience. I could achieve what it had "learned" and tailored it to my needs using Tasker but doing that doesn't even make a significant difference when I'd set it up for a better power saving experience so those profiles inevitably got deleted.
I should add that the RAZR HD is built to be sort of similar to vanilla Android, and that I trust Samsung a lot more when it comes to trying to optimise power consumption in its ROM without any add ons running, and that's quite a statement considering that the RAZR HD has incredible battery life.
I've had this app staring at me in Titanium Backup, uninstalled, since I got the phone and the urge to try it out comes and goes, but overall I can't really conceive that its a good idea to do so. There's no magical things that it does which can't be accomplished using other tools and most of those tools aren't really worth it despite doing a better job for the reason of the user having more control over what conditions need to be met for the functions to take place. The days of Android needing help with power management through third party apps are for the most part in the past and only exist on pretty old phones.
Battery Guru is in use more then anything else during Learning process when I check in Greenify. Based on what I see hopefully it is used less after Learning.
Also is it worth using this with Greenify?
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda premium
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda premium
Leonidas87 said:
Battery Guru is in use more then anything else during Learning process when I check in Greenify. Based on what I see hopefully it is used less after Learning.
Also is it worth using this with Greenify?
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hahahahaha
what a stupid program if that is the case (saw your image below this post)
Latest after finishing the Learning period. Seems to still show up in greenify to be waking up the phone more then anything else I've ever seen before.
To me it looks like a resource and battery hog.
Anyone else have an opinion based on the picture I'm attaching or there experience with it?
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda premium
Leonidas87 said:
Latest after finishing the Learning period. Seems to still show up in greenify to be waking up the phone more then anything else I've ever seen before.
To me it looks like a resource and battery hog.
Anyone else have an opinion based on the picture I'm attaching or there experience with it?
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. And I guess if the functions of this app were so great how it tells you in the description, it would be in the source code of the qualcomm's kernel itself. Maybe it can save some battery but only for those millions of unexperienced users arround the world, who doesn't even know, what android really is.
I would stick with greenify and that's enough. Everything else is the job for the kernel.
Impact7 said:
Yep. And I guess if the functions of this app were so great how it tells you in the description, it would be in the source code of the qualcomm's kernel itself. Maybe it can save some battery but only for those millions of unexperienced users arround the world, who doesn't even know, what android really is.
I would stick with greenify and that's enough. Everything else is the job for the kernel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Overall it just does more harm then good. My Live Wallpaper seemed slugish. Scrolling became sluggish on homescreen and drawer. Over 1000 Wake ups and counting with it. NO THANK YOU.
USE GREENIFY (BETA VERSION PREFFERED BY ME) BOTTOM LINE
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda premium
Does this app really help?
I let it run the whole learning period and just ended a few hours ago...
So it started saving battery... The phone was idle the whole time.
You see a huge decline in battery? Thats when the App BatteryGuru started to "save battery", how ironic.
"Google Services" seems to be the cause in here..
When checking Wake Lock Detector,
BatteryGuru is the most wake lock...
Question is, Shall I continue using it?
i started using this app with the adam kernel and ive noticed that my battery life has increased from 12 hours of use to 18/19 hours of use
im a pretty avid phone user. mainly music, web browsing, phone calling, text, games, and seldomly maps (in order of importance to my personal life
with the stock kernel i saw no difference

Droid Mini battery 🔋 drains too fast

I am looking for solution as my device drains battery really fast.
I hope someone could assist me on this... I am using 444, su6-7.2 with bootloader locked.
Sent from my XT1030 using XDA Free mobile app
What does your Battery page display has the apps using battery?
opt05 said:
What does your Battery page display has the apps using battery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, I could not get what you are asking about...
Sent from my XT1030 using XDA Free mobile app
Before that screen there is another one where is ? drain ranked by app
Sent from my XT1080 using XDA Free mobile app
affineer said:
Sorry, I could not get what you are asking about...
Sent from my XT1030 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Settings / battery. THe page before the graph you posted - which apps are listed there, and what are the %? (That said, you use the phone a lot - there is a lot of screen on/ awake time on your graph. Turn the screen brightness down maybe?)
doogald said:
Settings / battery. THe page before the graph you posted - which apps are listed there, and what are the %? (That said, you use the phone a lot - there is a lot of screen on/ awake time on your graph. Turn the screen brightness down maybe?)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are talking about that page I think...
Sent from my XT1030 using XDA Free mobile app
I am also getting the issue. I'm on 6-7, 24.3.7, rooted, and if I use it intensely it will go down to 14% before 3:30 PM. I'm surprised, as the issue never happened when I got the phone new.
If your screen is 42%, you're just using it a lot. The Mini has a small battery. Maybe you can try setting brightness down, but it looks like this is drain because you use it rather than a runaway app or process.
That said, Google Play services and Google services have been running high on my usage list lately. There's not much you can do about that, except maybe turn off background sync, which sort of negates the reason I bought a smartphone in the first place.
Battery Doctor
Guys, I have been using Battery Doctor for few days, I have noticed positive effect on battery life. Maybe someone is interested to try..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ijinshan.kbatterydoctor_en&hl=en
I hope it helps to others too.

Categories

Resources